So, Richie DID get the job and was fired when someone complained about missed phone calls that were going to Mikey's phone after he died (season 1, kids party episode ties it back).
This episode just made me love Natalie so much more. HAVING to be the most adjusted sibling, trying to take care of her mom and getting cussed at and thus wanting Donna's approval even more even at the cost of her hope that one day her mom will thank her for the care and love she's always shown her was just such a gut punch. You truly see WHY Nat needs someone 'normal' or 'nice' like Pete because, notice, he NEVER calls her by a nickname (Sugar) that she earned because she can't cook as well as her family and made a mistake, he supports her and lets her be her own person who isn't babying someone. She doesn't NEED to take care of Pete, she simply stands up for him and he also lets her fall apart when you remember how pissed at Carmy and Richie she was last season after they only called Pete in order to use his freezer and no matter what happens, Pete has witnessed the madness and how Nat grew up and just lets her feel what she needs to. So far, for me, this season? Nat is one of my top three characters because while she's not the eldest, she has eldest daughter syndrome: Everything is her responsibility (encouraging Carmen goes to therapy; asking him to call her; constantly checking in with him; renovating a restaurant she associates with trauma while dealing with the scars left by Donna's treatment of her and Mikey's death); never getting the recognition a child, especially a daughter, wants from her mother; everything somehow being her fault and still having to hold it all together. I fully believe without her husband, Nat would be a completely different person in present time. They balance one another.
This is a great comment. Nat's character grew in a way that I wasn't expecting. Up until this season she felt very much like a side character to Carmy's existence. This season her depth and growth were a huge reason to tune in.
Isn't she with Fak in this season? It seemed bizarre to me that Pete was just really here anymore & she keeps calling Fak "my love." I think they kiss but it never seemed believable to me.
@@mhernandez1345 no, she only calls him that as a term of endearment, but not as a sign of a romantic relationship. Remember how he and Richie call her “Mom” he’s sort of like a child. He’s simple in a way where she gives in terms of endearment when he does the bare minimum, because he needs a bit of encouragement. She’s still very much together with Pete.
I appreciate your comment. This episode was excellent. I see why Natalie’s mom did not know she was pregnant. I feel for Pete when he was vulnerable at the restaurant opening and cried.
As someone who grew up in an addiction ridden household, this was incredibly profound and emotional to watch. They truly captured the essence of what these family dynamics are like for many. Great reaction, guys. Glad you’re enjoying it
This was a hard episode to watch. I have never felt so much tension watching a TV show. It's absolutely brilliant. Kudos to Jamie Lee Curtis. I didn't even recognize her at first. She knocked it out of the park.
The chaos was so over the top it makes me wonder what the behind the scenes of this episode was like. I feel like there was a well deserved trip to the bar after the shoot was over.
I agree it would be well deserved, but Jamie Lee Curtis got sober decades ago - which makes her acting in this episode even more incredible. She’s just amazing.
yeah but if shes refusing help theres nothing you can do and theres no sense in caring anymore. just consider your loved one as already gone. trying to fix a mentally ill person is how you GET a mental illness.
Every fork that was thrown raised my anxiety through the roof. Like this ep drained me ( in the best way possible). This show knows how to do storytelling!
Sorting through the chaos is almost exhausting as a viewer. I mean that as a compliment. We get front row seats to the dysfunction and it never let's up. I can't imagine how long it took to film all of tihs.
I think apart all you guys say, Natalie and her mother relationship is so hard like her being nicknamed Sugar cause she burn something when she was little and that let her to stay away from the tradition of the family that is cooking cause she’s reminded of her error and her relationship with her mother for the rest of her life still she tries to please and be by her mother side.
I feel like she desperately wants to be acknowledged and seen by her mother. Her mother is dealing with some other type of issue outside of the drinking. Maybe she's dealing with the absence of her husband and takes it out on her. It feels like there's more than just the "sugar" incident getting in the way of their connection.
As someone who used to go through chaotic family holidays and get togethers, this episode HIT. And the cast was stacked af. Beautiful performance of this blended Berzatto Christmas
One parallel I saw from the pantry frame is that how Carmy feels about Mikey not calling him back seems to be what Carmy did to Natalie. She said you never ask how I’m doing.
Regarding Uncle Lee being a jerk: Yes, he was a jerk, in my opinion, but so is most everybody else in the episode (except for my boy Pete). Telling somebody (especially your on/off girlfriend’s son) that they’re nothing is not the way to handle his issues with Michael.
Yes he is the type that think just because he blunt and honest he's helping and that will motivate you to change, but all it does just makes things worse.
In a few reactions I’ve seen to this episode, all reactors were surprised to hear Carmy believe that Michael didn’t give a fuck. That being dropped wasn’t surprising to me. The way I look at it, it isn’t hard to feel like a person (especially a family member) doesn’t care, when all you want is a connection with them and they kinda push you away. I’m a little bias tho lol
I can understand that. Especially if you don't know the context of what that family member may be going through. Add to the fact that Carmy is a bit of the black sheep of the family. The isolation can probably feel deafening.
Breaks my heart. All she wants is for her mother to be ok, and to be seen by her. After seeing this episode there's no wonder about her concern about bringing a child into the world. Does the apple fall far enough from the tree?
I'm always really interested in the people behind the scenes of my favorite shows. I'm such a nerd, and I do deep dives on the writers, showrunners, directors, etc. I tried to find an interview, or any info on the creator/writer of The Bear(Christopher Storer). I couldn't really find much on him, but came across an article with his sister. The show is loosely based on their upbringing and sibling relationship. IRL, the sister is the chef. She's an advisor on the show to help the cast make the cooking/kitchen scenes appear more authentic. The cast is AMAZING, but Christopher Storer created a gem. He's written or co-wrote most of the episodes. With this writers strike...who knows when we'll get a season 3. Everybody involved with this show, in front and behind the camera needs a raise!
There’s so many call backs in this episode from throughout the show but I think my favorite is 7:39 when Sugar asks Richie’s wife, “you look a little green, do you want a sprite?” back to Richie asking Sugar this before she revealed to anyone she was pregnant.
I was traumatized watching the episode. Michael scares me. Donna and time multiple timers , to me, signaled her eventual breakdown. Poor Steven. You could see Michael's gradual descent to his ultimate end. I am suspecting that the father is dead and may be the cause of Donna's breakdown. Jaime Lee Curtis is amazing. Her performance was spectacular. I needed a cold compress and a nap after this episode.
dude all I have to say that this episode was so damn accurate I'm super glad you didn't have to experience this irl if this felt that stressful for you. This series is so brilliant and its unfortunate how accurate it can be about familial trauma, the way everyone is walking on eggshells around Donna, the way they have to look out with every word they say or even looking at her because she sees everything as an attack and constantly insecure about not being loved so lashes out at everyone. Families can be such a fucking horrible concept since you can be stuck with a psycho for your whole life.
You're giving Lee wayyyy too much grace. I think Lee was Donna's partner and there was natural conflict between him and Michael except he (Lee) chooses to be an a## about it. He was so hurtful and went straight for the jugular multiple times.
In a room filled with damaged humans I feel Lee is one of few who sees the family or specifically Michael for what he is. Lee is absolutely wrong for what he did. It's almost unforgivable. But like an intervention with loved ones it's painful to hear the truth of your situation. The family is living in denial. Lee simply said what everyone already knew.
@@Syntell Okay, I hear you but is Mikey truly "nothing, nothing, nothing". It's one thing to point out truths but to dehumanize someone- to call them a monster and animal is another level. That said I agree with a lot of what you said here.
@@wildoranges I hear you. And I'm not letting Mikey off the hook. I have to be honest though I have a lot more empathy for him than for Lee. We don't have Lee's backstory but we do have the backstory of the Berzatto kids (including Mikey), an alcohol abusing, mentally ill mother. Both of those traits can be genetic and it takes a lot to overcome that kind of upbringing. Yeah, Lee gets no love from me. I was about ready to throw a fork at him myself. 🤣
@@wildoranges not to excuse Michaels actions because he very much was out of line during the dinner with the fork business he got going on but actively antagonizing a person who is suicidal/feels like he's nothing and there's no reason/purpose to his existence plus add in that he is on drugs and uncle Lee very well knows that (probably majority of them do too if not directly then on some level under the layers of denial lol) and repeatedly saying "you're nothing" is very diabolical to me. and the rest of the family is complacent to this as well because all of them try the out of sight out of mind thing where they don't bring anything up, any of their problems and trauma. Michael with the drugs, momma Donna with her issues plus the drinking, Carmy and Nat, Richie etc so nothing gets solved, nobody gets any type of professional help, therapy something!! nobody gets better healthier physically but especially mentally and things just continue to spiral through the years and just more sht gets added on as time goes on :/// just very very unfortunate and deeply sad
Bernthal is such an amazing actor - another great movie he was in was 'Me, Earl, and the Dying Girl'. He is so good at the heavy lifting scenes within dramas - he always brings that weight.
This episode was phenomenal, the acting, camera work, and the writing was spot on. The next episode is a great follow up looking forward to your guys reaction.
Man. This episode killed me when I first watched it. Seeing a glimpse into the trauma that Natalie and Carmen witnessed and how that informs their present was crazy. Loved the cameos of n this man. Jon bernthal does emotional moments so uniquely. I hurt so bad for Mikey. Fuck Uncle Lee for we’re bruh.
The cast stepped all the way up. It had to be difficult shooting all of this and also inspiring as a actor to be pushed to higher level in your craft. These characters are as extraordinary as they are exhausting to watch.
Wooo my shoulders were up to my ears all this episode, definitely one of the best on tv. Richie and Unc were arguing in season 1 at the birthday party about a job that went wrong and that's one of many callbacks this show does. Great reaction guys!
to the question posed @45:15: i gotta say he was. i agree with mikel-claire to a point; he was telling the truth… but it still didn’t need to be said. there’s a reason that we, as humans, don’t say everything single thing we think. it always causes trouble and hurts way more than it ever helps. lee should’ve shut his mouth and minded his plate, it wasn’t his place to bring up mikey’s issues. privately is one thing but during christmas dinner with the entire family there?? no ma’am. now i’m not saying lee deserved to get forked… but lee deserved to get forked. 🤷🏾♀️
Great reactions from you two 😃😃! Every time I rewatch this episode it makes me tear up seeing the trauma in the family dynamics. Jamie Lee Curtis was phenomenal in this episode. I believe Lee and Donna were together at one time and now no longer. This holiday dinner makes sense in how Carmy & Sugar dealing with life now. All the new characters showing up in this episode were great (Bob Odenkirk, John Melaney, Sarah Paulson and of course Jami Lee Curtis). Next episode good too!
Micheal is telling the Bill Murray story again, that he told in season 1 episode 6. Seeing Richie speak to Cicero, and how he said he wanted a mentor, it adds to his jealousy of Sydney in season 1. She just goes out and “instantly” gets a mentor in Carmy.
This episode and the recent episode in Succession when a prominent family member dies. These two episodes are a different type of viewing trauma. Brilliantly and masterfully crafted, but it does make you wonder if you have to stomach to go through it again.
Did you not recognize John Mullaney as Stevie? His inclusion was Very interesting especially given his very public addiction/recovery story. Also this being 2x as ling as the normal episodes. It very much was a 1 act play set at the family table. Just great acting all the way around.
A one act play is a great way to describe this. Although this episode was longer it didn't feel like it. The pacing felt reckless and out of control, just like the family. There is no rest for them, like there's no rest for us the viewers.
As an alcoholic I can tell you that’s it’s always something else alcohol is the medicine to cope with what’s we have going on in between the ears eventually the medicine becomes worse than the problem and you have to figure out id you let it kill you or fix your self
Wow, thank you for sharing. I assumed it's more than just the drinking. The family seems to have a lot of history that has yet to be revealed. With all that chaos going on at home, I can empathize why someone would want an escape.
I think Lee is Donna's on again off again boyfriend. The way Mikey is antagonistic, it really comes off as being angry about Lee trying to take his dad's place.
You guys are awesome, was just looking at any and all videos about The Bear, u guys seem super chill, not desperately being over-melodramatic with reactions like a lot of channels are but actual nice commentary, idk just seems like a very cozy channel to watch. Especially with how damn traumatic this episode is, as someone whose gone through too many holiday's of only stress like this, and family members that act exactly like this, The Bear is one of the few series ive seen of recent that depict familial trauma this accurately.
Yes. I've been to this kind of event chicago Italians are boisterous and loud the food is out of this world. And there's a lot if love and trauma rolling around
id rather eat chinese food then deal with that lol. "i make things beautiful for them!" like what part of the dinner was beautiful? you can keep that "beauty" all for yourself.
Brilliantly crafted. It's crazy to me how TV has caught up with cinema in terms of emotional content. What a great time to be alive in this golden age of television.
I just came home from visiting my Grandpa, his wife, my mom, my grandma (my grandpa's ex) and my aunt. He just had a heart attack and my god this episode was relatable. Luckily wasn't that crazy but I relate t the elders yelling and arguing over minor things while all the young ppl sit in silence.. Maybe I'm lucky to not have any siblings
I think most families have their own unique dynamics. My household was pretty quiet when I grew up, however I've been in more than my fair share of family situations where that wasn't the case. Looking at this family sort out Christmas was a different type of spectacle for me.
This year’s Emmy nominations are for season one, not two. It’s all about when the show was released/aired. It must’ve been after the deadline last year.
I'm late when it comes to this show but I absolutely love it! This episode was one of the most intense episodes that I've seen in a show in a looonggg time! I was screaming at the TV for Mikey to throw that fork a third time😂😂Great show and good reaction!
The guy who plays Stevie is standup comic John Mulaney who like Bob Odenkirk grew up around Chicago. For my $ Mulaney is the best standup in the world (outside of Chappelle). This was his first role not playing a version of himself or himself. He crushed it.
i’m sure syntell definitely knows who john mulaney is but only through his voice lol. a scene from across the spiderverse is in his intro so we can assume he’s at least heard him as spider-ham. like i said though, he probably just didn’t know what he actually looks like.
Love your guys reactions!! You guys read things so well and have such good takes. Also- She was right about Carmy trying to make his own new cannolis (he proposes the idea to Marcus and Sydney). sort of healing in a way- The writers have said that. They also said they cast relatively famous people to have the surprise add to the holiday aspect of the episode. You guys are super clever and have GREAT input, sorry if I'm covering obvious things. I think this is my favorite show since The Wire, which is big- as a film student. Sorry if you guys covered anything I've said- I just LOVE This show, the characters are so well developed in such a short amount of time so there's still so much to learn about them, and it's usually interesting to learn. I love Marcus's story, and the hints at him kind of following in Carmy's footsteps- It's nice considering Carmy lost his brother who he loved to cook with. I feel like that's the idea of having such a great cast of characters, but Marcus is easily my favorite- I love his dedication.
I finally watched this series and this episode was definitely a masterclass. I had to stop watching the episode 1/2 way through and watched the next 1/2 the next day - Too chaotic; generational trauma was too much. I loved Stevie saying grace, which was lovely to hear- even his voice was melodic. When cousin Michelle talked to Carmy privately asking him to come to New York, I saw her as a breath of fresh air for him. I see Michelle and Stevie as key characters to breaking the generational trauma. I hope in season 3 they return. Bravo to the writers and staff of this excellent show!
There is a lot of dysfunctional going on at the Berzatto household. Michael, is The Hero, Natalie is the Caregiver, and Carmy is the Lost Child. Michael is the family member devotes his time and attention to making the family look “normal” and without problems. The Hero can mask or make up for the dysfunctional home life. Over-responsible and self-sufficient they are often perfectionistic, are over-achievers and look very good - on the outside. The parents look to this child to prove that they are good parents and good people. Their goal in life is to achieve "success", however that has been defined by the family; they must always be "brave and strong”. The Hero's compulsive drive to succeed may in turn lead to stress-related illness, and compulsive over-working. They learn at a young age to suffer the sadness of a parent and become a surrogate spouse or confidante. Natalie is the Caregiver, ie the Enabler. Another descriptive word for this type of codependent family role is “the Caretaker“ This is also a role a child can fulfill, especially in case the other parent/caregiver has not resigned to enable the dysfunctional Addicted parent. The Enabler feels like they have to keep the family going. Over and over they take on the addict’s problems and responsibilities. The Enabler is the martyr of the family, and often supports not only the dysfunctional behavior, but also a prime enforcer of the codependent roles that everyone else is required to play. You often see this role in a family where the functioning of (one of) the parent(s) is impaired in some way, i.e. mental illness, substance abuse or a medical disability. This child will attempt function as the surrogate parent. They worry and fret, nurture and support, listen and console. Their entire concept of their self is based on what they can provide for others. Carmy is the Lost Child. The Lost Child is usually known as “the quiet one” or “the dreamer”. The Lost Child is the invisible child. They try to escape the family situation by making themselves very small and quiet. (S)He stays out of the way of problems and spends a lot of time alone. The purpose of having a lost child in the family is similar to that of The Hero. Because The Lost Child is rarely in trouble, the family can say, “He’s a good kid. Everything seems fine in his life, so things can’t be too bad in the family.” This child avoids interactions with other family members and basically disappears. They become loners, or are very shy. The Lost Child seeks the privacy of his or her own company to be away from the family chaos. Because they don’t interact, they never have a chance to develop important social and communication skills. The Lost Child often has poor communication skills, difficulties with intimacy and in forming relationships. They deny that they have any feelings and "don't bother getting upset." They deal with reality by withdrawing from it. I know it because I’ve lived it. References: Boyd, G. (1992). When You Grow Up in a Dysfunctional Family. Retrieved from: www.mudrashram.com/dysfunctionalfamily2.html. Wegscheider, S. (1981). Another Chance: Hope and Health for the Alcoholic Family. Palo Alto, CA: Science and Behavior Books. pp. 85-88.
I thought it was going to be hard to top season 1 episode 7 but it managed to do so. I was blown away by the performance of the cast. They went above and beyond any expectations I had. Especially Saul (I dont know his actual name) he manage to have me just as mad as Michael. He was a jerk he was kicking a guy while he was down and expected nothing to happen. The restraint Michael showed was insane we would of had to fight in the backyard before continuing that meal.
You guys are like me, this episode made me SO CURIOUS about what happened with their dad, considering we barely even hear about Carmen's father. While the mother has definite problems- I can't help but wonder why. I thought this episode was daringly realistic in as much as it was just as hectic as any episode set at the restaurant but this is A HOLIDAY FAMILY GATHERING. I love the choice to wait until later until the second season to SHOW us this kind of information instead of having it told to us through dialog or something else. (The only time the mother mentions it is to bring up that he left his gun.) I think the job situation between RIchie and Uncle J is what they end up arguing about the first time we see them interact last season when they made hot dogs for him. When they first arrive and Carmy is just standing they while they argue, it's about the job established here. And "Something about Bill Murray" you heard in the background- Michael's telling the story he told during the flashback from last season. Also- We saw that drawing in the office of the restaurant early in season one but it was a very quick shot. Mike's not lying when he says The Beef is hell to work at- But, I can't help but feel like he's trying to keep Carmy away from whatever illicit activity he was doing.
I hear you about lee being frustrated and wanting to "poke the bear" of the addiction in both donna and Michael-however where he went down the path of jerk to me is when he just went too far in how he ripped Michael apart. saying he is nothing, he is a failure, he is living at home with his mother like a loser-poking the bear of the elephant in the room doesn't have to have such dark cruelty attached to it. those are big, bad, and in my book-unforgivable words. that would end me ever dealing with that person ever again. it was just too much. but wow. my family is nothing like this. or I should say was nothing like this, they are gone now, but this was not our dynamic. thank goodness. what great directing, writing and acting. I loved watching your reaction and listening to your discussion afterwards. I have liked and subscribed. thanks for posting.
Such a chaotic episode, but brilliantly acted mostly. I have to say I had an issue with Jamie Lee Curtis’ performance. I found it very mannered, everything about it was OTT even down to the hair and makeup, she doesn’t even have to utter a word and you can tell she’s playing an alcoholic. I do think it lacked depth. I thought Bob Odenkirk and Sarah Paulson did a fantastic job with what they were given.
I love Mickey's character because ik so many people like that. Hes genuinely a good guy but hes a bit screwed up in the head but him and carmy or whatever are my favorite characters. They are almost like opposites in so many ways. I love John bernthals performance in this
I can’t feel sympathy for Lee, sure I felt bad when Mike was bullying. But Lee seems to be more of a level headed adult while Mike is obviously mentally not well and comes from that background. And Lee’s words hurt way more than anything that Mike did. It shows how words have such an impact, even with Mike throwing forks. We see what words like Lee’s have caused Mike to do. And honestly, I would never forgive Lee after the fact.
You shoukd keep in the back of your mind the part about the chocolate covered bananas...it will come back. I can't wait for you to watch episode 7 it is my favorite
This episode gets even better the second or third time watching it. The more you begin to pick up certain mannerisms and settle things showcasing the acting chops in the show. Bernthal kills it in everything. Did Micheal un-alive himself on Xmas or a short time after? I'm trying to follow the timeline. Richie's wife was pregnant and now the daughter is like 6 or 7 maybe so I'm thinking he held on for another 6 years or so.
@@LadyScaper Thanks! That's what I was thinking. Must have been a rough 5 years for Michael, he was struggling back when their mother drove into the house.
Unfortunately this is a reality for some people. Personally, I can't say what I would or wouldn't do because this type of experience is foreign to me. But I can empathize with all of the madness going on.
I suspect this was the last time Carmen went home Christmas dinner. In season 1 he asks Tina about something and finds out that Mikey invited her to the Berzatto Christmas dinner. Carmen asks Tina if his mother went “full psycho”. He has to ask, as he wasn’t there. Tina says she wasn’t calm, but the food was good.
Spoilers for the last ep of s2. Mike screaming for his mother to open the car door is exactly like Carmie in the final episode screaming for someone to open the freezer. It shows how Carmie is similar to Mike and his mother in the way they react. Its just that Carmie tends to be silent in his suffering, similar to Michael, and he tends to cope by pushing himself to cook more, to the point he can sleep cook.
Call me toxic but I think Lee is the biggest instigator and annoying person at the table. I mean they all know mikey has a drug problem so there's no need for him to bring this up at a christmas dinner.
So, Richie DID get the job and was fired when someone complained about missed phone calls that were going to Mikey's phone after he died (season 1, kids party episode ties it back).
Thank you for that call back.
damn, I didn't catch that, thanks!
This episode just made me love Natalie so much more. HAVING to be the most adjusted sibling, trying to take care of her mom and getting cussed at and thus wanting Donna's approval even more even at the cost of her hope that one day her mom will thank her for the care and love she's always shown her was just such a gut punch.
You truly see WHY Nat needs someone 'normal' or 'nice' like Pete because, notice, he NEVER calls her by a nickname (Sugar) that she earned because she can't cook as well as her family and made a mistake, he supports her and lets her be her own person who isn't babying someone.
She doesn't NEED to take care of Pete, she simply stands up for him and he also lets her fall apart when you remember how pissed at Carmy and Richie she was last season after they only called Pete in order to use his freezer and no matter what happens, Pete has witnessed the madness and how Nat grew up and just lets her feel what she needs to.
So far, for me, this season? Nat is one of my top three characters because while she's not the eldest, she has eldest daughter syndrome: Everything is her responsibility (encouraging Carmen goes to therapy; asking him to call her; constantly checking in with him; renovating a restaurant she associates with trauma while dealing with the scars left by Donna's treatment of her and Mikey's death); never getting the recognition a child, especially a daughter, wants from her mother; everything somehow being her fault and still having to hold it all together.
I fully believe without her husband, Nat would be a completely different person in present time. They balance one another.
This is a great comment.
Nat's character grew in a way that I wasn't expecting. Up until this season she felt very much like a side character to Carmy's existence.
This season her depth and growth were a huge reason to tune in.
Isn't she with Fak in this season? It seemed bizarre to me that Pete was just really here anymore & she keeps calling Fak "my love." I think they kiss but it never seemed believable to me.
@@mhernandez1345 no, she only calls him that as a term of endearment, but not as a sign of a romantic relationship. Remember how he and Richie call her “Mom” he’s sort of like a child. He’s simple in a way where she gives in terms of endearment when he does the bare minimum, because he needs a bit of encouragement. She’s still very much together with Pete.
I appreciate your comment. This episode was excellent. I see why Natalie’s mom did not know she was pregnant. I feel for Pete when he was vulnerable at the restaurant opening and cried.
John Mulaney killed it as Stevie! He just seemed like such a funny and kind guy
I love his prayer
he was a breath of fresh air
"and... is he still holding the fork?" hahahaha
@zarka223 that entire cast slayed.🔥🔥🔥
thing is, when he went to New York, he had that abusive chef there. he's not safe anywhere lol
Very good point.
Stevie was really flowing off the dome and came out with something very beautiful.
As someone who grew up in an addiction ridden household, this was incredibly profound and emotional to watch. They truly captured the essence of what these family dynamics are like for many.
Great reaction, guys. Glad you’re enjoying it
Oh yes same here, luckily my mom is fine but everyone else drinks wine all evening, yells and slams the tables ...Also smokes cigarettes' 24/7
Oh yeah. And carmy shut down mode ugh peeped that from day one 😢
That was a learning experience without a doubt. Taking a quick peek behind the madness is incredible.
I cant imagine living like this...I wouldnt handle all this
This was a hard episode to watch. I have never felt so much tension watching a TV show. It's absolutely brilliant. Kudos to Jamie Lee Curtis. I didn't even recognize her at first. She knocked it out of the park.
The chaos was so over the top it makes me wonder what the behind the scenes of this episode was like. I feel like there was a well deserved trip to the bar after the shoot was over.
I agree it would be well deserved, but Jamie Lee Curtis got sober decades ago - which makes her acting in this episode even more incredible. She’s just amazing.
I definitely think mental illness plays a part of the way the mom acts and alcohol worsens it.
I hope we get a little more context as to why she's lashing out like this. I'm guessing it may have something to do with the fathers absence.
yeah but if shes refusing help theres nothing you can do and theres no sense in caring anymore. just consider your loved one as already gone. trying to fix a mentally ill person is how you GET a mental illness.
Every fork that was thrown raised my anxiety through the roof. Like this ep drained me ( in the best way possible). This show knows how to do storytelling!
Sorting through the chaos is almost exhausting as a viewer. I mean that as a compliment. We get front row seats to the dysfunction and it never let's up. I can't imagine how long it took to film all of tihs.
I think apart all you guys say, Natalie and her mother relationship is so hard like her being nicknamed Sugar cause she burn something when she was little and that let her to stay away from the tradition of the family that is cooking cause she’s reminded of her error and her relationship with her mother for the rest of her life still she tries to please and be by her mother side.
I feel like she desperately wants to be acknowledged and seen by her mother. Her mother is dealing with some other type of issue outside of the drinking. Maybe she's dealing with the absence of her husband and takes it out on her. It feels like there's more than just the "sugar" incident getting in the way of their connection.
As someone who used to go through chaotic family holidays and get togethers, this episode HIT. And the cast was stacked af. Beautiful performance of this blended Berzatto Christmas
A masterclass in chaos and storytelling.
Impossible to look away from.
One parallel I saw from the pantry frame is that how Carmy feels about Mikey not calling him back seems to be what Carmy did to Natalie. She said you never ask how I’m doing.
This episode brought out all kinds of emotions
I still feel in shock from everything. How is everybody not suffering some type of family PTSD
Mike was like F**k it, im still throwing that fork 🍴 😂
I would've thrown it too after Lee's rude, careless comment. 😂
Regarding Uncle Lee being a jerk: Yes, he was a jerk, in my opinion, but so is most everybody else in the episode (except for my boy Pete). Telling somebody (especially your on/off girlfriend’s son) that they’re nothing is not the way to handle his issues with Michael.
Yes he is the type that think just because he blunt and honest he's helping and that will motivate you to change, but all it does just makes things worse.
Nah he’s probably been dealing with that lowlife for years. Micheal is obviously a bully and a monstrous person
Yep, “bullying a person out of depression” never works.
I get the loud family thing. Large families, lots of voices, lots of people. Much chaos. Lol
In a few reactions I’ve seen to this episode, all reactors were surprised to hear Carmy believe that Michael didn’t give a fuck. That being dropped wasn’t surprising to me. The way I look at it, it isn’t hard to feel like a person (especially a family member) doesn’t care, when all you want is a connection with them and they kinda push you away. I’m a little bias tho lol
I can understand that. Especially if you don't know the context of what that family member may be going through. Add to the fact that Carmy is a bit of the black sheep of the family. The isolation can probably feel deafening.
i feel so fucking bad for sugar
Breaks my heart. All she wants is for her mother to be ok, and to be seen by her. After seeing this episode there's no wonder about her concern about bringing a child into the world. Does the apple fall far enough from the tree?
“We have liftoff” -Cousin Michelle
Man that dinner scene delivered! Great performances by all
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I'm always really interested in the people behind the scenes of my favorite shows. I'm such a nerd, and I do deep dives on the writers, showrunners, directors, etc. I tried to find an interview, or any info on the creator/writer of The Bear(Christopher Storer). I couldn't really find much on him, but came across an article with his sister. The show is loosely based on their upbringing and sibling relationship. IRL, the sister is the chef. She's an advisor on the show to help the cast make the cooking/kitchen scenes appear more authentic. The cast is AMAZING, but Christopher Storer created a gem. He's written or co-wrote most of the episodes. With this writers strike...who knows when we'll get a season 3. Everybody involved with this show, in front and behind the camera needs a raise!
It's incredible writing like this that only strengthens the reason why the writers should be respected and paid more.
There’s so many call backs in this episode from throughout the show but I think my favorite is 7:39 when Sugar asks Richie’s wife, “you look a little green, do you want a sprite?” back to Richie asking Sugar this before she revealed to anyone she was pregnant.
I was traumatized watching the episode. Michael scares me. Donna and time multiple timers , to me, signaled her eventual breakdown. Poor Steven. You could see Michael's gradual descent to his ultimate end. I am suspecting that the father is dead and may be the cause of Donna's breakdown. Jaime Lee Curtis is amazing. Her performance was spectacular. I needed a cold compress and a nap after this episode.
After shooting all of this I'm willing to bet everyone met at the bar just to decompress.
Amazing filmmaking but talk about exhausting.
He’s not dead. IIRC, somebody asks early in season one if Carmy had spoken to him lately. Of course the answer was no.
dude all I have to say that this episode was so damn accurate I'm super glad you didn't have to experience this irl if this felt that stressful for you. This series is so brilliant and its unfortunate how accurate it can be about familial trauma, the way everyone is walking on eggshells around Donna, the way they have to look out with every word they say or even looking at her because she sees everything as an attack and constantly insecure about not being loved so lashes out at everyone. Families can be such a fucking horrible concept since you can be stuck with a psycho for your whole life.
You're giving Lee wayyyy too much grace. I think Lee was Donna's partner and there was natural conflict between him and Michael except he (Lee) chooses to be an a## about it. He was so hurtful and went straight for the jugular multiple times.
In a room filled with damaged humans I feel Lee is one of few who sees the family or specifically Michael for what he is. Lee is absolutely wrong for what he did. It's almost unforgivable. But like an intervention with loved ones it's painful to hear the truth of your situation. The family is living in denial. Lee simply said what everyone already knew.
“You see Lee, I *can* throw forks, ‘cuz this is *our father’s* house.”
@@Syntell Okay, I hear you but is Mikey truly "nothing, nothing, nothing". It's one thing to point out truths but to dehumanize someone- to call them a monster and animal is another level. That said I agree with a lot of what you said here.
@@wildoranges I hear you. And I'm not letting Mikey off the hook. I have to be honest though I have a lot more empathy for him than for Lee. We don't have Lee's backstory but we do have the backstory of the Berzatto kids (including Mikey), an alcohol abusing, mentally ill mother. Both of those traits can be genetic and it takes a lot to overcome that kind of upbringing. Yeah, Lee gets no love from me. I was about ready to throw a fork at him myself. 🤣
@@wildoranges not to excuse Michaels actions because he very much was out of line during the dinner with the fork business he got going on but actively antagonizing a person who is suicidal/feels like he's nothing and there's no reason/purpose to his existence plus add in that he is on drugs and uncle Lee very well knows that (probably majority of them do too if not directly then on some level under the layers of denial lol) and repeatedly saying "you're nothing" is very diabolical to me.
and the rest of the family is complacent to this as well because all of them try the out of sight out of mind thing where they don't bring anything up, any of their problems and trauma. Michael with the drugs, momma Donna with her issues plus the drinking, Carmy and Nat, Richie etc so nothing gets solved, nobody gets any type of professional help, therapy something!! nobody gets better healthier physically but especially mentally and things just continue to spiral through the years and just more sht gets added on as time goes on :/// just very very unfortunate and deeply sad
Bernthal is such an amazing actor - another great movie he was in was 'Me, Earl, and the Dying Girl'. He is so good at the heavy lifting scenes within dramas - he always brings that weight.
I agree.
Something in his eyes and face that really brings it out.
The dudes a beast.
This episode was phenomenal, the acting, camera work, and the writing was spot on. The next episode is a great follow up looking forward to your guys reaction.
Glad you enjoyed it! Can't wait to jump into the next episode. The season has been nothing short of incredible.
back to back 9.7 episodes for different reasons but both definitely brilliant
Man. This episode killed me when I first watched it. Seeing a glimpse into the trauma that Natalie and Carmen witnessed and how that informs their present was crazy. Loved the cameos of n this man. Jon bernthal does emotional moments so uniquely. I hurt so bad for Mikey. Fuck Uncle Lee for we’re bruh.
The cast stepped all the way up. It had to be difficult shooting all of this and also inspiring as a actor to be pushed to higher level in your craft. These characters are as extraordinary as they are exhausting to watch.
My sister once said about our Italian holidays "Everybody talks and nobody listens."
Wooo my shoulders were up to my ears all this episode, definitely one of the best on tv. Richie and Unc were arguing in season 1 at the birthday party about a job that went wrong and that's one of many callbacks this show does. Great reaction guys!
Great callback. Apparently their collaboration didn't work out as intended. Richie is just a mess. But we love him still.
My mother’s name is Donna and she is the 8th child of 12. My brother’s name is Mikey too. This episode was nothing but anxiety.
That's a lot similarities.
Please feel free to take a sit and breath deeply in this paper bag with me.
to the question posed @45:15: i gotta say he was. i agree with mikel-claire to a point; he was telling the truth… but it still didn’t need to be said. there’s a reason that we, as humans, don’t say everything single thing we think. it always causes trouble and hurts way more than it ever helps. lee should’ve shut his mouth and minded his plate, it wasn’t his place to bring up mikey’s issues. privately is one thing but during christmas dinner with the entire family there?? no ma’am. now i’m not saying lee deserved to get forked… but lee deserved to get forked. 🤷🏾♀️
exactly you have to ask was he doing it to help him or to embarrass him. He was trying to embarrass him.
@@lstarsabb exactly!
@@chance757 mickey is an embarrassment. a violent 40 year old still living at home shouldnt really be walking around like hes the king.
Great reactions from you two 😃😃! Every time I rewatch this episode it makes me tear up seeing the trauma in the family dynamics. Jamie Lee Curtis was phenomenal in this episode. I believe Lee and Donna were together at one time and now no longer. This holiday dinner makes sense in how Carmy & Sugar dealing with life now. All the new characters showing up in this episode were great (Bob Odenkirk, John Melaney, Sarah Paulson and of course Jami Lee Curtis). Next episode good too!
Jamie Lee Curtis stole the show and that's saying a lot given the list of top tier talent that was in this episode.
Micheal is telling the Bill Murray story again, that he told in season 1 episode 6.
Seeing Richie speak to Cicero, and how he said he wanted a mentor, it adds to his jealousy of Sydney in season 1. She just goes out and “instantly” gets a mentor in Carmy.
I loved this season, but I don't think I could watch that episode again. Really well done, but a tough watch.
This episode and the recent episode in Succession when a prominent family member dies. These two episodes are a different type of viewing trauma. Brilliantly and masterfully crafted, but it does make you wonder if you have to stomach to go through it again.
Did you not recognize John Mullaney as Stevie?
His inclusion was Very interesting especially given his very public addiction/recovery story.
Also this being 2x as ling as the normal episodes.
It very much was a 1 act play set at the family table.
Just great acting all the way around.
A one act play is a great way to describe this. Although this episode was longer it didn't feel like it. The pacing felt reckless and out of control, just like the family. There is no rest for them, like there's no rest for us the viewers.
As an alcoholic I can tell you that’s it’s always something else alcohol is the medicine to cope with what’s we have going on in between the ears eventually the medicine becomes worse than the problem and you have to figure out id you let it kill you or fix your self
Wow, thank you for sharing.
I assumed it's more than just the drinking. The family seems to have a lot of history that has yet to be revealed. With all that chaos going on at home, I can empathize why someone would want an escape.
You guys really get this show! Always happy to see these videos from y’all. Wonderful analysis and video!!!
Every single one of the actors in this episode killed It. Esp the guest stars (Jaime Lee Curtis, Bob O, Sarah Paulson). Absolutely killed
This episode felt like a fever dream almost yet so similar to my family gathering.
Chaos, glorious, glorious chaos.
I think Uncle Lee is an uncle in the same way Richie is a cousin. He and Donna are not siblings. She is Italian he said he was Polish
ahhhh, good catch
I think Lee is Donna's on again off again boyfriend. The way Mikey is antagonistic, it really comes off as being angry about Lee trying to take his dad's place.
You guys are awesome, was just looking at any and all videos about The Bear, u guys seem super chill, not desperately being over-melodramatic with reactions like a lot of channels are but actual nice commentary, idk just seems like a very cozy channel to watch. Especially with how damn traumatic this episode is, as someone whose gone through too many holiday's of only stress like this, and family members that act exactly like this, The Bear is one of the few series ive seen of recent that depict familial trauma this accurately.
Best episode of the series and one of the best episodes in FX history.
It lived up to all of the hype.
And to think we still have a few more episodes left in the season. WOW
Yes. I've been to this kind of event chicago Italians are boisterous and loud the food is out of this world. And there's a lot if love and trauma rolling around
id rather eat chinese food then deal with that lol. "i make things beautiful for them!" like what part of the dinner was beautiful? you can keep that "beauty" all for yourself.
I had a alcoholic father and a mother who had psychosis. Christmas was SO FUN! 😂😂 This scene WAS my Christmas dinners.
Jamie Lee Curtis is a masterclass 🖤🖤
She came on the show and bullied the script 😂
World class
Arguably the best show on tv rn, cant wait til yall get to the next episode. Its my personal favorite, Ritchie episode!
Brilliantly crafted. It's crazy to me how TV has caught up with cinema in terms of emotional content. What a great time to be alive in this golden age of television.
Every gesture they had to each other, it felt so real.
“I don’t know about real.”
Famous last words 😂
"Fishes" is brutal. Just brutal. Looking forward to 7, which is as beautiful to me, as 6 is brutal.
Can't wait!
I just came home from visiting my Grandpa, his wife, my mom, my grandma (my grandpa's ex) and my aunt. He just had a heart attack and my god this episode was relatable. Luckily wasn't that crazy but I relate t the elders yelling and arguing over minor things while all the young ppl sit in silence..
Maybe I'm lucky to not have any siblings
I think most families have their own unique dynamics. My household was pretty quiet when I grew up, however I've been in more than my fair share of family situations where that wasn't the case. Looking at this family sort out Christmas was a different type of spectacle for me.
surprisingly, Jamie Lee did not get an Emmy nomination. John Bernthal did for Guest Actor.
You've got to be kidding me. 😳
This year’s Emmy nominations are for season one, not two. It’s all about when the show was released/aired. It must’ve been after the deadline last year.
@@JenniferBardall good point. Emmys has been delayed to next year too
Season 2 is eligible for nominations for the Emmys ceremony in late 2024.
The 2023 Emmys ceremony with be in January 2024 due to the strikes.
@@LadyScaper yeah but the nominations were released before the strike. so they'll just disregard that then?
I swear y’all havnt been paying attention all season. 😂
How you not know Natalie = Sugar😅. Richie been saying it all the time lol
I'm late when it comes to this show but I absolutely love it! This episode was one of the most intense episodes that I've seen in a show in a looonggg time! I was screaming at the TV for Mikey to throw that fork a third time😂😂Great show and good reaction!
The guy who plays Stevie is standup comic John Mulaney who like Bob Odenkirk grew up around Chicago. For my $ Mulaney is the best standup in the world (outside of Chappelle). This was his first role not playing a version of himself or himself. He crushed it.
i’m sure syntell definitely knows who john mulaney is but only through his voice lol. a scene from across the spiderverse is in his intro so we can assume he’s at least heard him as spider-ham. like i said though, he probably just didn’t know what he actually looks like.
I definitely know the voice
This episode is good, but next episode is my favorite of the entire series.
Check for Ep 7 later on today. It was another incredible work of art. All in my feels.
This episode for me is exactly why I tend to avoid get togethers these days especially if it's a family thing.
Love your guys reactions!! You guys read things so well and have such good takes.
Also- She was right about Carmy trying to make his own new cannolis (he proposes the idea to Marcus and Sydney). sort of healing in a way- The writers have said that. They also said they cast relatively famous people to have the surprise add to the holiday aspect of the episode.
You guys are super clever and have GREAT input, sorry if I'm covering obvious things. I think this is my favorite show since The Wire, which is big- as a film student.
Sorry if you guys covered anything I've said- I just LOVE This show, the characters are so well developed in such a short amount of time so there's still so much to learn about them, and it's usually interesting to learn. I love Marcus's story, and the hints at him kind of following in Carmy's footsteps- It's nice considering Carmy lost his brother who he loved to cook with. I feel like that's the idea of having such a great cast of characters, but Marcus is easily my favorite- I love his dedication.
This episode felt like a bomb that was counting down and the last minutes were the explosion
All those timers ⏰
I couldn’t watch the episode. 10 minutes in and I was out. Thanks for braving this episode
I fully understand.
You need to have your emotional armor up for this one.
Myself as well, I can't do chaos. 🙅🏾
Great discussion at the end. First time seeing you guys, earned a subscribe.
I finally watched this series and this episode was definitely a masterclass. I had to stop watching the episode 1/2 way through and watched the next 1/2 the next day - Too chaotic; generational trauma was too much. I loved Stevie saying grace, which was lovely to hear- even his voice was melodic. When cousin Michelle talked to Carmy privately asking him to come to New York, I saw her as a breath of fresh air for him. I see Michelle and Stevie as key characters to breaking the generational trauma. I hope in season 3 they return. Bravo to the writers and staff of this excellent show!
Love you guys, found you through your bear reviews
Welcome to the family. Thank you for spending your time with us. It means a lot.
this episode was JARRING!!!
There is a lot of dysfunctional going on at the Berzatto household. Michael, is The Hero, Natalie is the Caregiver, and Carmy is the Lost Child.
Michael is the family member devotes his time and attention to making the family look “normal” and without problems. The Hero can mask or make up for the dysfunctional home life. Over-responsible and self-sufficient they are often perfectionistic, are over-achievers and look very good - on the outside. The parents look to this child to prove that they are good parents and good people. Their goal in life is to achieve "success", however that has been defined by the family; they must always be "brave and strong”. The Hero's compulsive drive to succeed may in turn lead to stress-related illness, and compulsive over-working. They learn at a young age to suffer the sadness of a parent and become a surrogate spouse or confidante.
Natalie is the Caregiver, ie the Enabler. Another descriptive word for this type of codependent family role is “the Caretaker“ This is also a role a child can fulfill, especially in case the other parent/caregiver has not resigned to enable the dysfunctional Addicted parent. The Enabler feels like they have to keep the family going. Over and over they take on the addict’s problems and responsibilities.
The Enabler is the martyr of the family, and often supports not only the dysfunctional behavior, but also a prime enforcer of the codependent roles that everyone else is required to play.
You often see this role in a family where the functioning of (one of) the parent(s) is impaired in some way, i.e. mental illness, substance abuse or a medical disability. This child will attempt function as the surrogate parent. They worry and fret, nurture and support, listen and console. Their entire concept of their self is based on what they can provide for others.
Carmy is the Lost Child. The Lost Child is usually known as “the quiet one” or “the dreamer”. The Lost Child is the invisible child. They try to escape the family situation by making themselves very small and quiet. (S)He stays out of the way of problems and spends a lot of time alone. The purpose of having a lost child in the family is similar to that of The Hero. Because The Lost Child is rarely in trouble, the family can say, “He’s a good kid. Everything seems fine in his life, so things can’t be too bad in the family.”
This child avoids interactions with other family members and basically disappears. They become loners, or are very shy. The Lost Child seeks the privacy of his or her own company to be away from the family chaos. Because they don’t interact, they never have a chance to develop important social and communication skills. The Lost Child often has poor communication skills, difficulties with intimacy and in forming relationships. They deny that they have any feelings and "don't bother getting upset." They deal with reality by withdrawing from it.
I know it because I’ve lived it.
References:
Boyd, G. (1992). When You Grow Up in a Dysfunctional Family. Retrieved from: www.mudrashram.com/dysfunctionalfamily2.html.
Wegscheider, S. (1981). Another Chance: Hope and Health for the Alcoholic Family. Palo Alto, CA: Science and Behavior Books. pp. 85-88.
Great breakdown. And you came with sources.
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Thank you.
Liked how you cited your sources!
I thought it was going to be hard to top season 1 episode 7 but it managed to do so. I was blown away by the performance of the cast. They went above and beyond any expectations I had. Especially Saul (I dont know his actual name) he manage to have me just as mad as Michael. He was a jerk he was kicking a guy while he was down and expected nothing to happen. The restraint Michael showed was insane we would of had to fight in the backyard before continuing that meal.
This episode was triggering yet so wonderfully executed!
love watching you guys react to this incredible episode. whew!
You guys are like me, this episode made me SO CURIOUS about what happened with their dad, considering we barely even hear about Carmen's father. While the mother has definite problems- I can't help but wonder why. I thought this episode was daringly realistic in as much as it was just as hectic as any episode set at the restaurant but this is A HOLIDAY FAMILY GATHERING. I love the choice to wait until later until the second season to SHOW us this kind of information instead of having it told to us through dialog or something else. (The only time the mother mentions it is to bring up that he left his gun.)
I think the job situation between RIchie and Uncle J is what they end up arguing about the first time we see them interact last season when they made hot dogs for him. When they first arrive and Carmy is just standing they while they argue, it's about the job established here.
And "Something about Bill Murray" you heard in the background- Michael's telling the story he told during the flashback from last season.
Also- We saw that drawing in the office of the restaurant early in season one but it was a very quick shot. Mike's not lying when he says The Beef is hell to work at- But, I can't help but feel like he's trying to keep Carmy away from whatever illicit activity he was doing.
this episode is one of the best episodes in the drama genre.
This is the best episode of tv this year
Man, this episode felt like being in a emotional traumatic fight with Mike Tyson
That’s the thing, I don’t if it’s mental illness/ mental health issues with the mom, or it’s something that happened, that made her like that..
I guessing she either dealing with grief, or it's mental illness. The alcohol is just the coping mechanism.
This episode stressed me out a little too much 😂
I hear you about lee being frustrated and wanting to "poke the bear" of the addiction in both donna and Michael-however where he went down the path of jerk to me is when he just went too far in how he ripped Michael apart. saying he is nothing, he is a failure, he is living at home with his mother like a loser-poking the bear of the elephant in the room doesn't have to have such dark cruelty attached to it. those are big, bad, and in my book-unforgivable words. that would end me ever dealing with that person ever again. it was just too much. but wow. my family is nothing like this. or I should say was nothing like this, they are gone now, but this was not our dynamic. thank goodness. what great directing, writing and acting. I loved watching your reaction and listening to your discussion afterwards. I have liked and subscribed. thanks for posting.
Whew this the episode! This and E7 are my favorites but the entire season was great tv!! N
Looking forward to you watching Ep 7 with us.
Such a chaotic episode, but brilliantly acted mostly. I have to say I had an issue with Jamie Lee Curtis’ performance. I found it very mannered, everything about it was OTT even down to the hair and makeup, she doesn’t even have to utter a word and you can tell she’s playing an alcoholic. I do think it lacked depth. I thought Bob Odenkirk and Sarah Paulson did a fantastic job with what they were given.
Odenkirk was definitely a surprise. Such a gift to have all of this talent on the screen.
It's a performance like this is why Jamie Lee Curtis has an Oscar to her name
24:53; Look at Richard, the Enabler!
Still proud of him but he egged Michael on, a lot of times!
21:45 "she's deep in the liquor now" Yep.
I love Mickey's character because ik so many people like that. Hes genuinely a good guy but hes a bit screwed up in the head but him and carmy or whatever are my favorite characters. They are almost like opposites in so many ways. I love John bernthals performance in this
I can’t feel sympathy for Lee, sure I felt bad when Mike was bullying. But Lee seems to be more of a level headed adult while Mike is obviously mentally not well and comes from that background. And Lee’s words hurt way more than anything that Mike did. It shows how words have such an impact, even with Mike throwing forks. We see what words like Lee’s have caused Mike to do. And honestly, I would never forgive Lee after the fact.
You shoukd keep in the back of your mind the part about the chocolate covered bananas...it will come back. I can't wait for you to watch episode 7 it is my favorite
In a alcoholic, unstable home, you HAVE to yell to be heard. You cut people off, talk over each other etc.
Stevie (John Mulaney) is one of the funniest comedians of the 21st century fr lmao you guys should check his stuff out
I've been waiting for this episode.
Me 2
It didn't disappoint. Love it. Still in shock, but loved it none the less.
In season 1 the Uncle said he crashed and Carmy’s dad flew out through the front
This episode gets even better the second or third time watching it. The more you begin to pick up certain mannerisms and settle things showcasing the acting chops in the show. Bernthal kills it in everything.
Did Micheal un-alive himself on Xmas or a short time after? I'm trying to follow the timeline. Richie's wife was pregnant and now the daughter is like 6 or 7 maybe so I'm thinking he held on for another 6 years or so.
Eva, Richie’s daughter is 5 years old in season 1.
Micheal dies about 4 months before the series starts.
@@LadyScaper Thanks! That's what I was thinking. Must have been a rough 5 years for Michael, he was struggling back when their mother drove into the house.
33:00 absolutely
Why’d u cut out the scene between Tiffany and Uncle J
I'm 23, and this was rough to watch. The generational trauma ends with me. I'll never spread gangrenous rot like this to my kids.
Lee was horrible but he had every right to be annoyed at Mikey for throwing forks. I’d be pissed as well
Gente me deu tanto gatilho esse ep pq a familia do meu pai é louca assim tal qual.
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Hopefully very very soon.
@@Syntell 🤞🏽thank you
Best episode of the show…Odenkirk was the mom’s gf
yeah she seems bi-polar.
The lack boundaries people have in this show are pathetic. My ass would just watch out
Are you guys gonna reac to they cloned Tyrone??!
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Ain’t nothing funny about this episode. Amazing acting cuz I’m angry af. I’d never go home if this was my family
Unfortunately this is a reality for some people. Personally, I can't say what I would or wouldn't do because this type of experience is foreign to me. But I can empathize with all of the madness going on.
I suspect this was the last time Carmen went home Christmas dinner. In season 1 he asks Tina about something and finds out that Mikey invited her to the Berzatto Christmas dinner. Carmen asks Tina if his mother went “full psycho”. He has to ask, as he wasn’t there. Tina says she wasn’t calm, but the food was good.
Spoilers for the last ep of s2.
Mike screaming for his mother to open the car door is exactly like Carmie in the final episode screaming for someone to open the freezer. It shows how Carmie is similar to Mike and his mother in the way they react. Its just that Carmie tends to be silent in his suffering, similar to Michael, and he tends to cope by pushing himself to cook more, to the point he can sleep cook.
Call me toxic but I think Lee is the biggest instigator and annoying person at the table. I mean they all know mikey has a drug problem so there's no need for him to bring this up at a christmas dinner.