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  • @bethconner5419
    @bethconner5419 4 месяца назад +427

    I'm a river rat through and through, born and bred on the waters of the Murray, hell I work on the river as my job. Seen plenty of blackwater events and that fish kill up on the Darling was absolute bollocks. To suggest that it was a proper blackwater event is ridiculous. So blackwater DOES deoxygenate water, because of the tanin that is in gum leaves and stuff left on the floor of the forests. After a flood, you gotta have all the things happening, too high water temperature, too much tanin, not enough water flushing out and reoxygenating the system. But it doesn't do a big kill like that. It usually kills only the big fish because they require more oxygen. Even Murray Crays climb out of the water to breathe. Floods are regenerative, they're doing what's supposed to happen, making fish breed and wildlife numbers go up as well as watering the forests.
    That fish kill on the Darling... LOOK AT THE WATER. It isn't black. A blackwater event is called that because the water turns BLACK. The other contribution, I believe, was flood plain harvesting. Because a lot of the water that was supposed to sustain those fish numbers was held back, you then run a higher temperature of water, because there isn't enough water in the system. It turns the flowing water stagnant so there isn't enough movement for fresh water. Add to pesticides, where there isn't enough water to dilute what is there.... A recipe for disaster.

    • @anarchy_79
      @anarchy_79 4 месяца назад +23

      Unfortunately, we can't for certain pinpoint the *exact* cause, so therefore our response is to do nothing at all about it.

    • @nedesnikderpherder7529
      @nedesnikderpherder7529 4 месяца назад +16

      @@anarchy_79 is it can't pinpoint the source because it's not in their best interests.... Or can't because they already know, and it isn't in their best interests? 🤔

    • @nedesnikderpherder7529
      @nedesnikderpherder7529 4 месяца назад +7

      Thanks for sharing, I've learnt much from your comment, and another, on something I wasn't really aware of, or know much on the nuanced effects of flooding. When 2 and 2 doesn't add up, and you get independent and real information from people with nothing to gain, it does definitely start to equal fishy!

    • @Al-hp7lq
      @Al-hp7lq 4 месяца назад

      Back to flood plain harvesting... Why am I not surprised. Corruption at this level of an environmental regulator is a blackwater event. NZ has the same level of blindside, huge range of acceptable pesticides inc. round up, copper sulphate for agric and viticulture that are banned in Europe and elsewhere. (AUNZ standards) And yet National consistently swept the 'most polluted low level waterways in the world' fact under our clean green pure delusional carpet of marketing tourism. Learnt alot bro thank you Jordan shanks love your work. 👍

    • @RobSkeltz
      @RobSkeltz 3 месяца назад

      @@nedesnikderpherder7529 It's always cash.

  • @squishy1706
    @squishy1706 4 месяца назад +345

    I think all politicians that write laws on environmental conditions/hospital policies/dole laws should be required to live with/experience that area for 2 months then see if they support that law.

    • @thejinxlet525
      @thejinxlet525 4 месяца назад +32

      Crazy that we have to go that far for the people who are literally being elected and paid to give a shit about other people's problems

    • @smasherthe7
      @smasherthe7 4 месяца назад +18

      I don't want to poison the local environment further...

    • @Azmeaiel
      @Azmeaiel 3 месяца назад +2

      theres a reason they consider themselves a different class and wont even means test the 'political pension' Just look to other countries they look up to with a similar system that has a separate special food supply , medical service and housing area to those they consider their citizens.

  • @camadams9149
    @camadams9149 4 месяца назад +1015

    The more I watch these videos... the more Im convinced Australians are just Americans with the dials set to 8% more cowboy and 17% more British.

    • @СлаваССС-м4с
      @СлаваССС-м4с 4 месяца назад +68

      It's just a glorified uganda but with drinkable water and toilets😂

    • @calboy2
      @calboy2 4 месяца назад

      @@СлаваССС-м4сUganda has toilets

    • @Itsmellsfishy
      @Itsmellsfishy 4 месяца назад

      Nah. Americans are immensely stupid. We’re just pretty stupid.

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 4 месяца назад +110

      @@СлаваССС-м4с The water's not going to stay drinkable for very much longer if this goes on.

    • @fortysixghouls
      @fortysixghouls 4 месяца назад +20

      a little yeehaw with a side of hot chips

  • @individual1-floridaman491
    @individual1-floridaman491 4 месяца назад +94

    I worked on a cane farm in FNQ. The farmer leased the farm next door when its owner fell ill. As part of that, we went through the old farm shed the old bloke had - there were boxes and boxes of diuron pellets, which had been banned from use around headlands and waterways in QLD. The farmer I worked for was an "accredited" reef guardian farmer, basically a piece of paper that says you're a "good guy" as far as the barrier reef is concerned. Every single one of those boxes was used to spray around the headlands and creeks on the farm.

    • @anarchy_79
      @anarchy_79 4 месяца назад

      I bought a pin!

    • @mattylandos
      @mattylandos 4 месяца назад +10

      Diuron is one of the most toxic pesticides we find in sampling water running to the reef. The chemical is banned in EU, not in Australia.

    • @breadbin261
      @breadbin261 3 месяца назад +11

      Wonder why he fell ill…

  • @korstmahler
    @korstmahler 4 месяца назад +568

    You know Agent Orange?
    One of the component chemicals is still used as a thistle and blackberry killer today in NZ.
    I should know, I had a chopper drop it over the rooftop that feeds our water supply.

    • @JETBLACKPRIEST
      @JETBLACKPRIEST 4 месяца назад +60

      Hope you got a fkn payout

    • @smasherthe7
      @smasherthe7 4 месяца назад +97

      At least you got Vietcong experience for free...

    • @fives.
      @fives. 4 месяца назад +49

      ​@@JETBLACKPRIEST Once upon a time, there was a Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries you could effectively do this with
      Once upon a time

    • @atomicmillenial9728
      @atomicmillenial9728 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, 2,4-D. That's the "safe" component of Agent Orange that's still used today. 2,4,5-T is the component that is known to cause cancer and birth defects.

    • @someusername1921
      @someusername1921 4 месяца назад +5

      which one 2,4D or 2,4,5T? Both bad but one is significantly worse than the other.

  • @petreasupagain5036
    @petreasupagain5036 4 месяца назад +165

    I just want to comment a massive thank you, I grew up along this river the darling river to be more specific. We were always told NEVER swim in the river water always only swim in pools. The locals already know and are forced to live with it while the local council all the way to the EPA will active lie about it not happening. Massive thank you for talking about it

    • @yellowdog3872
      @yellowdog3872 4 месяца назад

      ACAB, yes, even the environmental cops.

    • @_NEPO_
      @_NEPO_ 3 месяца назад +1

      Jesus Christ dude, that's fucking horrifying.
      I thought the US was great at coverups, I can't imagine being lied to my face like that about a damn river...
      It is important to talk about though, the more people who know about it, the more likely something can be done about it.

  • @Hiltok
    @Hiltok 4 месяца назад +58

    Here is another anecdotal bit of the picture on pesticide use in NSW: December 2023 I drove inland highways from Dungog (just north of Newcastle) up to central Queensland - about 560km through NSW and about 700km through Queensland with most of the journey being through farmland in each state. I had very, very few bugs on the windshield from the NSW section of this drive. Once I was in Queensland, it was splatter city. When you're doing a worse job than Queensland at managing your environment ...

    • @TheDemocrab
      @TheDemocrab 4 месяца назад +11

      I'm staying in NSW for the first time in my life at the moment and the lack of insect sounds at night versus Queensland where I just was before or Victoria where I live is honestly so eerie and off-putting.

    • @CragDawgs
      @CragDawgs 3 месяца назад +1

      That's regular no? Queensland sales for bug repellent is the highest in the world

  • @rhysplant8392
    @rhysplant8392 4 месяца назад +691

    Having fucking flash backs and it's time to rant. There is a blatant disregard to ag-chemicals and businesses and not sticking to MSDS levels of the product with no rotation. Whether its horticulture or agriculture, the education "needed" by any individual using these kinds product is acquired in 3 hours course at your local "training centre". The reason I left this work was because even "environmental" solution companies do not care about personal protection or ironically environmental impact, and in fact they prefer you dump 4x time chemicals because they make clients pay more for the chemical and they just assume its the correct amount that was required. I swear half the neurological problems I have now are probably attributed to chronic exposure, from the pressure of workplaces telling me "its fine" to work in these conditions, but its now the reason why I have studied chemistry. Fun quote from one company I worked for and why I became their health and safety officer to fight for better PPE: I quote "Half of the stuff you spray, you could drink" - My manager.

    • @Jonathan.D
      @Jonathan.D 4 месяца назад

      They don't want to think about the fact that the stuff they spray will have a long-lasting effect.
      I've been to areas in Vietnam where Agent orange was sprayed. They are still having the same serous issues like defects to this day.
      These chemicals that are being applied don't harmlessly evaporate into the air. They stay in the soil for decades and leech out into the water ways.
      Greed wins again.

    • @adamrice4824
      @adamrice4824 4 месяца назад +57

      Yep, same reason I left ag. No ppe care at all and a blatent disregard for personal safety regarding hort chemicals. One time i got drenched in glyphosate by a faulty sprayer and both the farmer and the agronamist said relax its just a salt you can drink it and you would be fine. I quit 2 days later

    • @samueldillon468
      @samueldillon468 4 месяца назад +46

      Did you pour him a glass and say, "Go on, then."?

    • @Tester-sh1mn
      @Tester-sh1mn 4 месяца назад +31

      Legit, I do furniture finishing, most common quote in the industry about safety is "You get used to it."
      "Hey my eyes, throat and hands kind of sting after using this paint stripper. Should I be wearing some PPE?" -Me
      "Nah you get used to it..." - My boss with 30 years in the business!

    • @just1luckyguy229
      @just1luckyguy229 4 месяца назад

      Seems similar to what we do here in hungary as "mosquito control".
      Spraying chemicals all over our protected water habitats with "safe" pestisides that "only kill mosquitoes" (same pesticides are banned all over the eu, but what do they know, lol)
      Then you can go out and cound the bodies of everithing left in the plane/trucks wake.
      It kills every single bug it touches, indiscriminatly. Kill smaller birds, reptiles, disastrous to amphibians, etc...
      As an aspiring nature conservaton engineer, it sucks to see the disregard from most people and the goverment towards our nature.
      Most depressing job, i tell ya 😅

  • @sethbradshaw6791
    @sethbradshaw6791 4 месяца назад +503

    the flint michigan of aussie

    • @fcdef-hk7hc
      @fcdef-hk7hc 4 месяца назад +14

      Pretty accurate, seeing it in person makes it even more accurate. It’s the most depressing thing I have seen in my life.

    • @Jonathan.D
      @Jonathan.D 4 месяца назад +11

      So the epa in Australia is just as useless as the epa in America.
      The blame also lies with the farmers who refuse to try proven methods like no till farming.
      Is a few more dollars worth the destruction of the environment?

    • @PropheticShadeZ
      @PropheticShadeZ 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Jonathan.D you'll notice that this issue is pretty recent, that's because any institution run without care or expertise will do the same thing
      And that the current government is working on fixing the issue already

    • @CheeseInTheOven
      @CheeseInTheOven 4 месяца назад +11

      ​@Jonathan.D If the farmers were the massive cotton farms owned by chinese billionaires that also siphoned water from the murray darling basin whilst paying no water tax then yes, those farmers are to blame

    • @Jonathan.D
      @Jonathan.D 4 месяца назад +11

      @@CheeseInTheOven They are also here in the US. These farms owned by Chynese companies are the worst. No Chynese company should be allowed to own any business like that. Other countries have stopped them because they were doing the same thing. They buy up everything to have control. They don't care what harm they cause.

  • @Petrolhead99999
    @Petrolhead99999 4 месяца назад +19

    Murray Cod are a very special fish only found in the Murray-Darling basin in Australia. They are the apex predator of the entire watershed, and are in the top 10 largest freshwater fish in the world. This is an incredibly special sad event.

  • @Ziggster625
    @Ziggster625 4 месяца назад +26

    You should earn a fckn Nobel Prize for journalism if that’s even a thing

    • @valentinmitterbauer4196
      @valentinmitterbauer4196 3 месяца назад +10

      That'd be the Pulitzer Prize

    • @silorion9967
      @silorion9967 3 месяца назад +5

      ​I fully expect to see Jordies receive a Pulitzer Prize, assuming an "awesome and good natured" politician doesn't "convince him to retire" first.

    • @Mag_ladroth
      @Mag_ladroth 3 месяца назад

      He already did, some politican tried to kill him

  • @jaykeinnes6793
    @jaykeinnes6793 4 месяца назад +120

    As someone who worked on a farm that supplied woolies I can tell you it's worse than what you could imagine, the amount of run off that's toxic was unbelievable

    • @MrDeano-eu9rg
      @MrDeano-eu9rg 3 месяца назад +2

      Is there some kind of whistle blowing you could do? Or are the relevant bodies corrupt?

    • @Beelzebubby91
      @Beelzebubby91 3 месяца назад

      @@MrDeano-eu9rg even if they spoke out with evidence, the authorities are so unbelievably corrupt. They’d do nothing unless the priminister’s own water was poisoned tbh,

    • @jaykeinnes6793
      @jaykeinnes6793 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MrDeano-eu9rg it's just standard procedure

    • @MrDeano-eu9rg
      @MrDeano-eu9rg 3 месяца назад +1

      @jaykeinnes6793 yea but it has to change no? Raise it. You'd be a hero

    • @YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999
      @YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999 3 месяца назад

      @@jaykeinnes6793 but it shouldn't be. Lol "standard procedure" that is killing your environment and possibly some of you.
      Sadly standard procedure when it comes to industry is harmful and murderous, either to animals or humans.

  • @chiefmonrovia6691
    @chiefmonrovia6691 4 месяца назад +55

    You make my water spicy, Jordan. Okay so now that I've actually watched the video, this story reminds me of my beloved Lake Michigan. Salmon used to run up all the various rivers and streams of the lake, but their numbers have been collapsing year over year, faster and faster. The rivers are drying up, the pond behind my mom's house that used to freeze over and bring the community together as an ice skating rink now has so little water in it you can walk all the way into the center without getting your feet wet. All of the trails are covered in plastic and barbed wire. Fish jump out of the 3 inch deep water onto the cement dykes and bake in the sun; their eggs literally explode out of them. It's sad.

    • @baabaabaa-yp2jh
      @baabaabaa-yp2jh 4 месяца назад +2

      Now go look how much river water we have compared to the US.

    • @POTAT-pi7mu
      @POTAT-pi7mu 4 месяца назад +3

      What are you talking about? What is your actual point?​@@baabaabaa-yp2jh

    • @baabaabaa-yp2jh
      @baabaabaa-yp2jh 4 месяца назад

      @@POTAT-pi7mu To have the Murray-Darling rivers cop this is like the Mississippi, Colorado (add 3 more river systems) lose stock and become worthless.
      We have far less water than the US is the point... we f*k that up it's the entire centre and east of the country useless for everything.. sheep, cattle and people.

    • @baabaabaa-yp2jh
      @baabaabaa-yp2jh 4 месяца назад +3

      @@POTAT-pi7mu Far less water here than the US, it's pretty obvious mate.

  • @TrueIronhorn
    @TrueIronhorn 3 месяца назад +8

    Fun fact: Atrazine (one of the chemicals on the list) is precisely the pesticide that Alex Jones was screaming about in that famous clip

  • @bigcrazewolf
    @bigcrazewolf 4 месяца назад +259

    As an American I stay tuned to hear some crazy that's not in my country.

    • @Kay-zee
      @Kay-zee 4 месяца назад +29

      Same crazy, different country

    • @katehack1677
      @katehack1677 4 месяца назад +2

      Fair enough 😂

    • @Ryan-lx6oh
      @Ryan-lx6oh 4 месяца назад +3

      Same, I love American crazy but! The USA, you guys are so funny! (I meant that in the friendliest way possible dude or dudet?)

    • @joekeegan-yc4nm
      @joekeegan-yc4nm 4 месяца назад +5

      This fella is one of a kind.
      He is so rare that he is hunted...

    • @robnewman5329
      @robnewman5329 4 месяца назад +11

      Mate that’s the same reason I watch American satire lol

  • @nancycurtis7315
    @nancycurtis7315 4 месяца назад +15

    Many years ago, we had a fish kill event. Many Koori people still lived near the old mission grounds. They noticed vehicles that were not local. Then the dead carp piled up against the old Antwerp (Victoria) weir. Millions. Channel 7 landed the chopper in my friends paddock. It was an inland flowing river into Lake Hindmarsh. I was there.

  • @Nomusicincluded
    @Nomusicincluded 4 месяца назад +97

    Lets insert some nuance to the discussion. Pesticides/herbicides/fungicides are also used in regenerative and organic agriculture, some of those organic options having the potential to be as harmful or even more harmful than their conventional counterparts. The problem is the over-use of these plant protection products(PPPs). The reality is that we don't pay our farmers enough even though they are making the food we survive on. It is a situation in many cases of telling someone who is trying to make ends meet to stop using products that might save 30%+ of their crop, which is turn is a loss of a third of their income. Without proper training or education on the use of PPPs they are likely to overapply just to be safe. Instead of making sure education and support is readily available, we just start banning products (some are rightly banned), even knowing that with less effective products people are even more likely to over-apply. Then we all go pointing fingers at farmers while we chow down on cheap food. Modern society is weird, our sports and tv stars make millions while those who produce our food or teach our children struggle.
    My background is as a former semi-organic winemaker(I left because the pay was barely a living wage) with studies in sustainable development and agriculture, and now working in the fertilizer sector.

    • @nedesnikderpherder7529
      @nedesnikderpherder7529 4 месяца назад

      Very interesting, I would've thought a proper DIY organic pesticide/herbicide/fungicide, would have a significantly lessened half life than their non organic counterparts, or even commercially made organic ones? Cheers for sharing knowledge🖖

    • @Nomusicincluded
      @Nomusicincluded 4 месяца назад +24

      @@nedesnikderpherder7529 Well this is all a matter of what you consider "organic" and one of the reason I really dislike the organic movement after being part of it for nearly 10 years(greenwashing & the naturalistic fallacy). Regenerative agriculture has no official standards or regulations so anyone can in theory claim to be a regenerative farmer. "According to Brian Baker of the Organic Materials Research Institute, most chemicals found naturally occurring (not synthetically manufactured) are acceptable for organic farming and agriculture". As we all know, not everything that is naturally occurring is better than a manufactured product. So within the regulations for organic agriculture you are allowed to use copper sulphate as a PPP since these component materials are "organic". The main problem though is that people think that since it is allowed in organic production it must not be as harmful and that it is potentially less effective, and therefore they tend to over-apply the product. Turns out it can also be harmful to bees, birds and aquatic life and as far as I am aware there is not enough evidence to say if it is carcinogenic, although there are some links to kidney cancer.
      Think of products used on organic agriculture like alternative medicine. It is often poorly researched and often has miracle claims. Whereas each actual medicine has a dozen demonstrated side effects, has specific application criteria, and we know the hazards of over-use or poor regulation because it is heavily researched and scrutinized. Both actual medicine and alternative medicine/wellness are multi million dollar industries, but we don't hold them to the same standards.
      Always happy to share what I know and always happy to stand corrected.

    • @nedesnikderpherder7529
      @nedesnikderpherder7529 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Nomusicincluded wow! Thank you for such a detailed reply, very informative indeed! I would hazard a guess that copper sulphate is a biproduct of processing copper, and I definitely steer clear of most sulphates in general. I've been toying with crushed eggshells and dried powdered banana peel as the P/K parts of a simple NPK fertiliser. Thanks very much once again greatly appreciate your time and knowledge🙏

    • @richardclark9535
      @richardclark9535 4 месяца назад +4

      @@Nomusicincluded Yes, having actually looked at the stuff you can use to produce "organic" labelled products you realize that it's mostly just a labelling project. While science is busy working on the data, pseudoscience got up early and worked on the lablling.

    • @CocoaHerBeansness
      @CocoaHerBeansness 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm from a traditional subsistence farming family that have never used Pesticides, herbicides or fungicides and I'd argue you're just pointing out that the standards for what's considered 'organic' are far too low.
      using these things at all creates imbalance in the farm ecosystem that tends to come back to bite you. We have never used these things and were totally self-sufficient for over 500 years on land that's considered unsuitable for agriculture by the rest of the farming industry.

  • @beanberg
    @beanberg 4 месяца назад +9

    It’s always cheaper to pay the fines later than to do the right thing up front (especially when they are the ones regulating themselves)

  • @bok..
    @bok.. 4 месяца назад +39

    This is so sad. Australia must protect its native fish populations. Here in the Great Lakes we do a bit of both, commercial fishing of some of the last populations of predatory native fish species. Speaking of Agro runoff, it was one of the main contributors to Lake Erie being almost destroyed to a point of no return.

    • @justbecauseimbored3212
      @justbecauseimbored3212 3 месяца назад +1

      I’ve lived in Erie all my life how is the water here I’ve been wanting to go swimming again but see dead fish every other day and have to go days after it rains or the seaweed will be everywhere

    • @bok..
      @bok.. 3 месяца назад

      @@justbecauseimbored3212 damn I've always wondered if the dead fish are the result of there being no predators to eat the small fish. Cause it's always the dead walleye.

    • @justbecauseimbored3212
      @justbecauseimbored3212 3 месяца назад

      @@bok.. well living things tend to be efficient yet wasteful in ways, you waste more energy running the same distance than walking, like 3 or 4x so them big fish wasting some and need alot more that’s probably like 50% of the problem why they die first

  • @GarrettsGear
    @GarrettsGear 3 месяца назад +4

    "Can i swim in there"
    "Yeah you can, it's radio-fuckin-active but--"
    *SPLASH*
    "I'M SUPERMAN!"

  • @girrig97
    @girrig97 4 месяца назад +60

    Meanwhile they are fracking along the Fitzroy river in WA and cooper creek along the lake eyre basin. Our uniquely independently evolved freshwater fish are at risk of extinction.

    • @karl4834
      @karl4834 4 месяца назад +1

      Really??? I had no idea there was fracking on the Fitzroy. How long has that shit been going on?

    • @girrig97
      @girrig97 4 месяца назад

      @@karl4834 2010s, I've got maps of all the fracking stuff. Work for ngo focusing on it

    • @Redpepper7376
      @Redpepper7376 4 месяца назад +14

      The irony is you can be fined for not having a fishing license and yet politicians can allow policies that kill millions of fish on multiple occasions in the Murry Darling.

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 4 месяца назад

      Fish often get the overlook when it comes to environmental concerns. Thanks for the info.

    • @YEs69th420
      @YEs69th420 3 месяца назад +1

      @@raclark2730 As far as aquatic organisms go, fish are lucky to even have some people in their corner. Inverts might as well be invisible

  • @DomesticApe
    @DomesticApe 4 месяца назад +35

    Just a quick point, copper is highly toxic to fish and copper sulfate is a common pesticide in use on organic farms.

    • @mattylandos
      @mattylandos 4 месяца назад

      Well under 1% of australia's cropping area is farmed organically. Hint.... it ain't their copper sulfate use.

    • @DomesticApe
      @DomesticApe 4 месяца назад +3

      @@mattylandos It's also used in non-organic farming and for non-ag purposes. And as it's just an element it doesn't biodegrade. So it just builds up and sterilises the river bottom.
      The point is that while synthetic pesticides have their issues, even very basic ones have severe issues with their use also.
      The solution is super tight regulation and oversight.

  • @jenniferknop985
    @jenniferknop985 4 месяца назад +5

    We live in the middle of LNP hell on what used to be the beautiful & mighty Macquarie River. Narromine, cancer causing chemicals and water. Along with our community, water, livelihoods, health & safety we are considered by many of these organisations as acceptable collateral damage. The EPA….Pffft! We’ve tried them and got the right royal brush off. Bit like brushing a fly off your sandwich. 😡 Adding insult to injury “they” (and we know who they are) changed the boondoggle inland rail route from a less flood prone western route to a highly flood prone eastern route. We have investigated and challenged this for over 6 long years. This change places the rail at significant risk of failure & has contributed to the massive cost blowouts (31 billion and climbing) as supported by Catherine King MP. Go figure 🙄. And just in case that wasn’t enough, Narromine council now support a plan for a Toxic Waste Incinerator & Storage facility emitting dioxins, a known human carcinogen and endocrine disruptor. This will sit on part of the Great Artesian Basin (The GAB) and become surrounded by water during flooding. FFS!! Other governments prohibit them and they are considered unlawful. All of this, pushed by our council, particularly Narromine Mayor Craig Davies, as an acceptable risk. As so succinctly stated by you, we are at the mercy of the “sordid shameful history of the EPA”
    Thank you Jordies…We too say,“No!" 👿

  • @adsdead
    @adsdead 4 месяца назад +12

    Simpsons short: crying woman "won't somebody think of the fish" EPA responds "fuck no" then just walks away.

  • @tyspaulding2025
    @tyspaulding2025 4 месяца назад +9

    I can only imagine how run down and helpless the residents nearby must feel abt their lands being destroyed. That river brings more life to australia than just fish

    • @fcdef-hk7hc
      @fcdef-hk7hc 4 месяца назад +6

      I’ve been there and seen it. I can tell you it’s pretty bad. The amount of closed businesses in Broken Hill is depressing and seeing an entire lake that had been drained was the cherry on top.

  • @LukeWatson99
    @LukeWatson99 4 месяца назад +90

    instead of Barnaby dealing with the murray darling he's now protesting against wearing R.M. Williams boots because andrew forest owns it and now forest wants to build wind farms. Go figure

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 4 месяца назад

      Fairly sure at this point Barnabys just an ape that someone shaved and let loose in public as a joke

    • @karl4834
      @karl4834 4 месяца назад +14

      Barnaby has to be the most unstable of all current politicians, in my humble opinion. He isn't even a good ideologist, often just a barking at the moon drunk in the street.

    • @Ktmfan450
      @Ktmfan450 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@karl4834Last I heard about Barnaby he was lying on the street drunkenly cursing

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 4 месяца назад

      Wind farms are just as bad as the rest of it, don't be fooled. They are just more destruction and cancer on the land.

    • @Mystic-Midnight
      @Mystic-Midnight 4 месяца назад +1

      Damn is Australian politics actually as backwards as American stuff? Dude sounds like a conservative grifter we'd have here.

  • @SethRietdijk
    @SethRietdijk 4 месяца назад +5

    im glad that our enviormentaal science class im in atm has an entire unit dedicated for pesticides and their impact on the enviorment and alternatives to keep crops healthly

  • @raclark2730
    @raclark2730 4 месяца назад +9

    Atrazine as per mention, is the " gay frog chemical '. Joke was on the mark.

  • @Corvus408
    @Corvus408 4 месяца назад +2

    im sweating bullets to even try and comprehend the horrific poisoning going on in america now.......

  • @connor6324
    @connor6324 3 месяца назад +1

    That could honestly be an irreversible amount of damage, and I feel like the EPA just went "oh whoops, well its fucked now what can you do" and swept it under the rug.
    Thank you for putting this out there, I hope it makes a difference.

  • @StephenMcCallumAu
    @StephenMcCallumAu 4 месяца назад +3

    Another great example of regulatory capture, where a regulator defends the interests they are supposed to regulate.

  • @RetiredRobot
    @RetiredRobot 4 месяца назад +7

    Atrazine is the chemical that Alex Jones was ranting about, in case anyone was unaware

  • @BeefSupremeSr
    @BeefSupremeSr 4 месяца назад +7

    Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.

  • @breakupgoogle4584
    @breakupgoogle4584 4 месяца назад +24

    It always comes back to corporate profits driving every shred of corruption.

  • @jackfromthe60s
    @jackfromthe60s 4 месяца назад +17

    Surely Minns can sack the EPA leadership? They don’t have tenure do they? He’s numero uno. He needs to “unstack” the EPA

    • @peterwilliamson9600
      @peterwilliamson9600 4 месяца назад +2

      I believe QLD did this a while back. I think the Feds should do the same. Sack all ministerial appointments. Make them go through the correct hire process.

    • @rollerskdude
      @rollerskdude 4 месяца назад

      Pretty much anybody hired under the Liberals or Nationals is either grossly incompetent at their job or hired through nepotism. The only people the Coalition hired were people who did exactly as they asked, calculated liars on the Coalitions behalf, easily bribe able people and their donors choice individuals.

  • @XpOverlord
    @XpOverlord 4 месяца назад +31

    Just a bit fishy

  • @Lumen_Obscurum
    @Lumen_Obscurum 4 месяца назад +7

    I'm surprised the people testing it haven't been labelled whistleblowers and vanished into the special place.

  • @kyleoffenburg8207
    @kyleoffenburg8207 4 месяца назад +3

    Fun fact about routine pesticide use I come across recently (Check out Dr Zach Bush). It only takes two yearly cycles of round up use to kill nearly 100% of the microbiome in the first 50mm of topsoil. This in turn completely destroys plants ability to extract vital nutrients from the soil, severely degrading the nutritional quality of the food we eat. Not to mention the incredibly correlational link between mass chemical fertilizer/pesticide use and a likewise uptick for a raft of diseases including but not limited to parkinsons, dementia and autoimmune disease. So its not just fish being poisoned 🙃🙃

  • @Piant_Genis
    @Piant_Genis 4 месяца назад +6

    It's like the reverse fountain of youth

  • @gavabe3461
    @gavabe3461 3 месяца назад +1

    The Darling has been a irrigation drain for 30+ yrs. The main problem is that irrigation in the upper darling has increased 140% in the last 13yrs... We all know where the issue lies.

  • @HenryKlausEsq.
    @HenryKlausEsq. 4 месяца назад +4

    Jordan Mussolini Van Houten: "It smells funny in there." Homer Berejiklian: "No it doesn't."

  • @CptRhys
    @CptRhys 4 месяца назад +1

    I hope this comes to light and talked about more

  • @babayega1717
    @babayega1717 4 месяца назад +5

    Australian Batman.

  • @julienandrus4169
    @julienandrus4169 4 месяца назад +2

    I'm from the US, and my dad actually is a sustainable farmer, thanks for talking about this sort of stuff.

  • @DavidPeaceOneLove
    @DavidPeaceOneLove 3 месяца назад +1

    Love your work watch dog , you make it palatable with your humour and therefore more accessible especially to younger generation thanks Jordan

  • @cashcow4483
    @cashcow4483 4 месяца назад +57

    I love aussie land
    Update : I love aussie land shenanigan's

    • @The-Schizo-Crowefethers
      @The-Schizo-Crowefethers 4 месяца назад +10

      You shouldn’t
      It’s shit

    • @cashcow4483
      @cashcow4483 4 месяца назад +4

      @@The-Schizo-Crowefethers what if I switched my comment to aussie shenanigan's

    • @The-Schizo-Crowefethers
      @The-Schizo-Crowefethers 4 месяца назад +1

      @@cashcow4483 you don’t really have to do anything but it’s still shit

    • @modernspartan98
      @modernspartan98 4 месяца назад +1

      Fuck the aussie land, real estate says i need grass but nothin grows unless its in my neighbours crawl space and sells for 20 a g

    • @anarchy_79
      @anarchy_79 4 месяца назад

      Shenanigan? Ay'e. I kno' im'.

  • @savourypotato
    @savourypotato 4 месяца назад +1

    "it's fine, it won't happen next year or the year after"

  • @JayHenderson749
    @JayHenderson749 4 месяца назад +15

    That skit about the police? Thats not the joke you think it is, that was my last dealing with them. I'd called because my step daughters father, who's a convicted criminal, was hanging around the gate of her school making threats and being agressive after he lost yet another custody argument, and the local PD told me to "call back when the fight kicks off"
    🙃

  • @oivinf
    @oivinf 3 месяца назад

    Reminded that Australian beef has managed to position itself as some sort of premium import in many countries, while like two decades ago it was so full of pesticides that were illegal in _literally_ every other country that Australian beef couldn't legally be sold _anywhere._ Well anywhere except Australia of course

  • @stewblare2190
    @stewblare2190 4 месяца назад +6

    hey im the usa, and our epa doesnt really do their job either. i wonder if there's connection?

    • @asheronwindspear552
      @asheronwindspear552 4 месяца назад +6

      Yeah. It's both corporate interests and the people who put the con in conservatives.

    • @ghostlyhousehorrors
      @ghostlyhousehorrors 4 месяца назад +1

      Our EPA also had their funding decreased like a decade ago. I don't know if it went up after that

  • @kameronmeyer7356
    @kameronmeyer7356 3 месяца назад

    you know, I used to have a friend from Australia. A truly great, hilarious man. He lived in Las Vegas but was undergoing treatment with me in Colorado, I remember all the funny things this man would tell me, like how they have bottle cap openers with kangaroo balls on them sold EVERYWHERE & how when you’d eventually get them wet by spilling a drink on them it’d just pretty much smell terrible. He also told me fun kangaroo facts like how the males balls are so large that sometimes they pick them up with their hands and pull them up to lick them to cool themselves off. it was at that moment I realized I wanted a Kangaroo because I knew that kangaroos and I had more in common with me than I could have ever known

  • @durhamdf
    @durhamdf 3 месяца назад +1

    So I used to manage golf courses and have some experience with pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers. A fish kill that large probably wasn’t pesticides. Strange enough that sounds like tons of fertilizers washing into the water creating massive algae blooms that take all the oxygen out of the water. The irony is that if more herbicides were flushed in with the fertilizer the algae may not have been so bad and the fish would have just been semi-retarded instead of all dead…

  • @ChiefGore429
    @ChiefGore429 3 месяца назад +1

    This reminds me of the dupont documentary I watched... "the devil we know"
    Same attitude towards mass poisonings

  • @pandamarshmallow8081
    @pandamarshmallow8081 3 месяца назад

    Casually the population of New South Wales in fish form 3X OVER

  • @249aaa
    @249aaa 3 месяца назад +1

    off-putting-ly well-done alex jones impression for an australian, as an american im proud

  • @caterpuss
    @caterpuss 3 месяца назад

    The only criminal you can trust right here
    PS: I ranched a long time here in Canada, now I'm just a small hobby farm. Turns out if you make habitats for bugs, you can keep them away from the crops. Same if you PULL OR BURN certain plants that encourage the bugs you don't want as many bugs lay eggs in seeds. Since I've been pulling out canola and Mullen I've had a lot less earwigs and weevles. I'm pulling out thistles now and seeing a lot less pest bugs too.
    PSS: if you spray your plants with dish soap it helps keep bugs off. If you just recycle your dish water to your crops,then blamo. Also bird houses everywhere

  • @victorknudsen439
    @victorknudsen439 3 месяца назад +1

    I heard that the fish also had a high content of
    Deoxyribonucleic acids
    I cant belive it😂

  • @sufyanabbasi483
    @sufyanabbasi483 4 месяца назад +1

    U.S. communities have found great success suing the EPA, polluting companies, and pollution sources for damages when the systems that are set up to protect them fail. Would something like that technically work in Australia? Or would the corruption machine make such a thing impossible anyway?

  • @vsadams
    @vsadams 4 месяца назад +3

    That sounds like Flint Michigan or EastPalestine USA 🤭

  • @oidko3969
    @oidko3969 3 месяца назад

    Grassy narrows in Canada, this in Australia, a oil spill in Tanzania and so much others we might be cooked

  • @ghost_lad08
    @ghost_lad08 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for talking about this

  • @MissyS1614
    @MissyS1614 3 месяца назад +1

    I literally work in a regulatory testing lab for water. Acting like most of the major pesticides we use can’t be tested reliably is genuinely really funny to me (in the “im crying” kind of way). However, they *are* typically expensive tests… that’s not a good excuse tho.
    But then again, they aren’t acting even when they know, so what does it matter?

  • @OzzyBoganTech
    @OzzyBoganTech 4 месяца назад +3

    We love a bit spicy water that's why we need to put Gatorade on the crops

  • @ho0t0w1
    @ho0t0w1 3 месяца назад +1

    Funny enough Alex was talking about Atrazine

  • @insensitive919
    @insensitive919 4 месяца назад +14

    My fish went to live on a nice farm what are you talking about

    • @insensitive919
      @insensitive919 4 месяца назад

      Not sure what happened to my dog. I assume that the popo put him down but I was kinda busy chasing Kasami so I never followed up

  • @broodlettuce7936
    @broodlettuce7936 3 месяца назад

    My dad worked in the epa for a while, apparently it was very corrupt, though I won’t go into detail. He left cause it was so bad and works for another company of the same nature. The epa still continues to have laws that have easy loop holes to exploit and it so bad that they didn’t even properly handle absetos in construction for the last few decades. He can name about 100 other massive issues 😭

  • @Keepjamn
    @Keepjamn 3 месяца назад

    "fish hate water" me too fish.... me too

  • @Ultravenom1
    @Ultravenom1 4 месяца назад +4

    Australia aka lesser New Zealand is an interesting place

    • @paralobe
      @paralobe 4 месяца назад

      That's a funny way to spell "I'm retarded"

  • @louisemuggeridge187
    @louisemuggeridge187 3 месяца назад

    Brady become a chemical engineer to save the fish not to kill them.

  • @crypticscriber276
    @crypticscriber276 4 месяца назад +3

    I wonder if Jordan checks after the first minute he posts lmao

  • @66rounds
    @66rounds 4 месяца назад

    Atrazine is the famous endocrine disruptor that turns the freaking frogs gay.

  • @Yezpahr
    @Yezpahr 4 месяца назад +1

    Oh, I can smell where this one is heading to already. Time to download this episode cuz it will be gone soon.

    • @anarchy_79
      @anarchy_79 4 месяца назад

      Smells like 30 million rotting fish

  • @anabeldorothea212
    @anabeldorothea212 4 месяца назад +11

    Spicy

  • @Shyguy-yu1cu
    @Shyguy-yu1cu 4 месяца назад

    I think that was the best Alex Jones impression I've heard yet

  • @ProbablyNotAChicken
    @ProbablyNotAChicken 4 месяца назад +13

    No no, it was the floods.
    ...Bringing out all the pesticides stuck in the mud.

  • @zach8682
    @zach8682 3 месяца назад

    Growing up in Illinois, we are well acquainted with Monsantos. The creeks and rivers I grew up in also experienced fish kills, all this occurring around small farm towns where the people have effectively no power to stand up to multi-billion dollar corporations when their elected officials are paid by the folks at Monsantos themselves. This started happening in the 90's, and it really makes you sick to realize that Monsantos built a capitalist machine that extracts billions from people, while literally poisoning them and the entirety of the fucking planet at the same time.
    We don't deserve to exist as a species.

  • @ridgemurphree15
    @ridgemurphree15 3 месяца назад +1

    This is country wide catastrophe, there should be national measures in place IMMEDIATELY

  • @wallywallyoxenford
    @wallywallyoxenford 4 месяца назад +6

    the way that Australia is somehow #1 on the list for every possible horrible thing you can do in (and to) this world is horrific. Even China is going "what the fuck bro?" at this point. What's next on the list now? Smog?

    • @scottbeavan6896
      @scottbeavan6896 4 месяца назад

      It's just fog, perfectly fine, nothing to see here

    • @Civman-yr8lb
      @Civman-yr8lb 4 месяца назад

      Lmao what? No it's not. Not even close. The stuff in the rest of the world just isn't covered. The commentary from a foreigner who knows nothing about Australia is worthless.

    • @wallywallyoxenford
      @wallywallyoxenford 3 месяца назад

      @@Civman-yr8lb you are bringing a lot of heat to a youtube comment section here brother, it is ok. Australia won't hurt you. it's ok. float in some water and take deep breaths

    • @Civman-yr8lb
      @Civman-yr8lb 3 месяца назад

      @@wallywallyoxenford I'm Australian. You're not. Don't tell me about my country, seppo.

    • @wallywallyoxenford
      @wallywallyoxenford 3 месяца назад

      @@Civman-yr8lb who hurt you , guy? If this is a safe place for you to get things out you're welcome to share, I don't mind. let it out man

  • @googm
    @googm 3 месяца назад +1

    Atrazine is what turns the frogs gay by the way.

  • @dangdang3970
    @dangdang3970 4 месяца назад +8

    Yeah but cmon, ya neighbors falcon was to loud so the EPA made sure he couldnt drive it untill he changed the exhaust, you know the real enviromental issues

  • @mrozboss
    @mrozboss 4 месяца назад +1

    I grew up in Riverina I remember In the 80s ABC did a report on aerial pesticides and the connection with high cancer rates in surrounding towns also when DDT was banned same time some farmers were buying the stuff up in barrels and storing it I left Riverina because I got sick of loosing young friends and family to rare cancers leukaemia Hodgkinson disease and seeing young friends having children with birth defects I used to work in the food industry and one thing I never seen tested for was DDT

    • @mattylandos
      @mattylandos 4 месяца назад +2

      Yes and now a Motor Neuron Disease hotspot too. The river turned to toxic blue green algal soup, the air contaminated with pesticides

    • @mrozboss
      @mrozboss 4 месяца назад

      😢

  • @RandyDanger
    @RandyDanger 4 месяца назад +3

    WHERE'S JA?!

  • @IsMyPCEdible
    @IsMyPCEdible 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m pissed at the Australian government a lot of the time.

  • @slob1105
    @slob1105 4 месяца назад +1

    Working in hospo. There's always eastern European old ladies asking for spicy water when they order a drink ... guess I can give them this water now

  • @Hugo2Me
    @Hugo2Me 4 месяца назад +4

    Finally, a jordies video before I go to work!

  • @feraltrafficcone4483
    @feraltrafficcone4483 3 месяца назад

    Ironic that I got a water quality ad for this video

  • @5h4d0w5l1f3
    @5h4d0w5l1f3 4 месяца назад

    Interestingly, nutrient runoff parallel to pesticide runoff could eventually lead to algal blooms and low oxygen environment, but those are usually more obvious. Not that that water isn't already green and turbid, but I assume that's the radioactive particulate lmao

  • @aidan473
    @aidan473 4 месяца назад +3

    A nice calm, relaxing video to fall asleep to

  • @YourOnlyHope89.
    @YourOnlyHope89. 4 месяца назад +1

    Spent the first 23 years of my life in Broken Hill. Can confirm, it is the equivalent of hell on earth!

  • @SmallKawk
    @SmallKawk 4 месяца назад +6

    ohhhhh YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JOURNALISM

  • @RR-bn5wo
    @RR-bn5wo 4 месяца назад +1

    Water systems are fucked mate. Even in the UK, the SW is going through an issue at the moment where "cryptosporidium" has been found in water. Which is making people really really unwell. Sad how little companies give a shit about our water and natural world in general.

  • @marlinblack6597
    @marlinblack6597 4 месяца назад +1

    The Murray/Darling catchment is an environmental basket case known around the world. The system is managed by the cotton industry like a battery hen farm. It is criminally corrupt. Many systems that dissect Ag managed land suffer the same issue but the MDB is by far the worst. A similar situation occurs on the Barron river which feeds into the Great Barrier reef lagoon. As soon as the first wet season rains occur capable of flushing the system do exactly that and pesticide and herbicide levels go through the roof. Up here, as an incentive, farmers were paid money to invest in better management practices (although improvements where not monitored: Reefplan 2020) and environmental levels in the system nearly doubled. Monitoring needs to be independent, verified and taken out of the hands of government and industry. The MDB is gone, it's past time to save those systems that can be saved and the cotton industry needs to pay restitution.

  • @AnythingForSouls
    @AnythingForSouls 4 месяца назад

    so black water is fine for fish alot of people who keep fish (me included) have black water tanks its essentially the substrate and wood and other things like catappa leaves the tannins in these that slowly leach out and dye the water its actually good for the fish it helps with the slime coat and is anti bacterial and gives them protection from predators since it makes it harder to see them. Some people even drink this as a tea they just boil the catappa leaves. The whole amazon system and most south American river systems are exactly these and fish thrive. Now either they somehow got a few hundred tons of organics added to that water in a very very short time and the bacteria ate up all the oxygen essentially resetting the nitrogen cycle in that river or it was just chemicals poured in that killed them or if the temperature has been incredibly higher than usual and its stagnate water that will also pull oxygen from the river but honestly its likely chemicals.

  • @JaBone9541
    @JaBone9541 4 месяца назад +5

    Hehe

  • @anamoose461
    @anamoose461 3 месяца назад

    ok ok i’ll stick around and watch that video afterwards

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby 4 месяца назад +8

    Loving the storm of uploads lately, Jordan's OCD must've kicked in

  • @takethedanimalyoungone5671
    @takethedanimalyoungone5671 3 месяца назад

    Black water is actually really good for ecosystems its basically tea from trees and leaves and can sometimes cause reduces oxygen but its mostly good

  • @Lazy_Tim
    @Lazy_Tim 4 месяца назад +6

    These are the things we should be worrying about. Not a war on the other side of the world.

    • @TheMosayat
      @TheMosayat 4 месяца назад

      What are you referring to?

    • @Lazy_Tim
      @Lazy_Tim 4 месяца назад

      @@TheMosayat Israel and Palestine.

    • @TheMosayat
      @TheMosayat 4 месяца назад

      @@Lazy_Tim maybe I'm misunderstanding, but what did you mean that we shouldn't care about it?
      You meant to criticize how the government supports israel, and not that people shouldn't care about supporting justice for the palestinians, right?

    • @Lazy_Tim
      @Lazy_Tim 4 месяца назад +2

      @@TheMosayat I don't care about Israel or Palestine but I do care about Australia.

    • @TheMosayat
      @TheMosayat 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Lazy_Tim you understand there is no contradiction between caring for australia and supporting human rights for people of another country, right?... that's not a valid excuse to be apathetic about innocent civilians being massacred by a belligerent occupying force.
      Not to mention it is illogical to give a shit about fish dying but not actual humans.

  • @TimBarrett-b2u
    @TimBarrett-b2u 4 месяца назад

    This is so bad it makes the old man who was screaming, “EPA! EPA!” Look normal…

  • @Yahula1edits
    @Yahula1edits 4 месяца назад

    We recently had the same issue in a german river here we share with poland. The cleanup took so long, the fish started to rot on the surface and banks of the river causing an insanely horrible smell.

    • @anarchy_79
      @anarchy_79 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, I was just wondering, since they weren't gonna do anything to prevent 30 million fish from dying, what are they gonna do now that they have 30 million dead ones instead? Oh, still not give a shit? Ok.