Sampling rare violins at the Chimei Museum
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- The Chimei Museum in Taiwan is home to the world's largest collection of rare stringed instruments. I visited the museum recently and had the privilege of trying out several of their violins. With the limited time I had that day I only spent a few minutes with each violin, so these are all single take recordings. The audio you hear is what my iPhone captured, with no post-production editing.
0:51 1713 Stradivari
1:36 1722 "Elman" Stradivari
2:24 1707 "Dushkin" Stradivari
3:10 1656 Nicola Amati
4:00 1732 Guarneri del Gesu
5:00 ???? Guarneri del Gesu
5:43 Returning to the 1722 "Elman" Strad for a bit of solo Bach
[Edit: Jan 13, 2023] A viewer noted that the last violin I sampled might be the 1744 "Ole Bull" Guarneri del Gesu. After comparing the photos I have of it with public photos, I think that viewer is correct.
Why insult the player.,,im sure he did his best and really enjoyed playing these violins.
I also enjoyed listening to so many famous violins in the one recording.
I agree. Every violin feels different to play under the bow and the fingers and takes a while to get used to. And if they aren't played/tuned much, they often go out of tune quite suddenly when you first play them. Anyone who has tried out a load of instruments in a shop will appreciate this. Plus he only has a few minutes with each. It is unreasonable to expect a perfect studio recording performance under these conditions.
@@FiddlerNick I also found his comment about preferring his own contemporary Anne Cole violin very interesting. Many great violins built these days (including my own 😄) which in my opinion are completely under rated by most in favour of antiques.
Many blind sound tests have been done in the last 10-15 years where quite often modern violins were chosen as the favourites. Equally, some soloists say some original Stradivari are difficult to play. There was a TED talk by a soloist professional violinist who said he had to change his playing style to be able to play the Strad he was loaned. The golden period of violin making is here again…many great makers.
@@finemasterviolins Yes the Amatis and Strads and Guarneris of the world were making fine top end pro instruments which were pricey even in their own day. The "silly money" values now are all to do with rarity and antique value. I am sure there are equivalent instruments being made now that are in the same league technically, as expressive and playable tools to musicians good enough to get the most out of them.
Very interesting to hear them all one after the other. Thanks for the video. That place has an amazing selection of instruments. Very envious !
Guarneri definitely the best. Amazing model tone.
Thank you for posting this! I could not tell the difference between a superb violin and a piece of..., but just imagining your pleasure at a chance to try these mythical instruments feels pretty good! And I did enjoy your playing!
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Amazing sound 👍💯💝💝💝👏👏👏👏
That 1713 Strad was amazing. All of them were! Hard to discern differences through a cell phone speaker, though.
I would be very happy with the Amati
That people will mutter and jabber in the midst of such rare and beautiful sound from a centuries old priceless instrument so carefully preserved and masterfully played… beyond my understanding. 🤷🏼♂️ People in the background, you must now please STFU for 500 years.
Truth! I couldn’t agree more. I was about to leave a comment stating something extremely similar.
Cheers! 👍👍
Thank you for a beautiful video....
Really awesome place 😊
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Very nice,please upload a longer video....Thank you
Who is the plush bear and what is his connection to the violin trade? Luthier? Player?
The famous 1744 Ole Bull. Maybe the last violin Guarneri made.
2 errores: tocar con vibrato y con cuerdas de metal, cuando en el Barroco se usaban cuerdas de tripa.
O primeiro a ser apresentado foi o melhor sim top
Послушал и для меня слышно Гварнери звук наиболее полноценный,звук идёт через подставку,растекается по верхней деки, получая при этом кучу гармонических обертонов, чего меньше у Страдивари и совсем мало у Аматти.И очень мало у вашей современной скрипки. Просто нужно много играть и слушать и может быть вы услышете.Мне понадобилось очень много лет.
Всё зависит от того в чьих руках инструмент.
Dommage les bruits de fond (conversations, essais d'autres instruments en même temps )!!!
Mon tiercé gagnant : 1 Elman Strad
2 Nicola Amati
3 ??? Guarneri del Gesu
C-bouts more distinctive of Guarneri than the f-holes (his longest holes are a period)
The last Del Gesu you played is 1744 "Olle Bull"!
Thanks! A previous viewer commented the same. I updated the description.
@@genehuangviolin maybe the last is cannone ll
There’s a photo of the ole bull behind you.
Don't grab the body of the violin with your hand!
F hole cracker?😂
Y que le hace?
@@Recorder-e3e Hold it by the neck. Oils on skin damage the varnish and allows dirt to stick to it as well.
@@palladin331 vos sabés en 300 años cuántas manos habrán tocado el cuerpo de estos violines? Y no les pasó nada ..ahí están sonando perfectamente!
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After testing these rare old violin, would you say the highest quality modern violin are better or worse in terms of projection and tone?
Really hard to say based on only spending a few minutes with each of these violins. The room where I tested them did have nice acoustics, but I found the playability (ability to produce a good tone and even response) of these instruments to be lower than my modern violin. This could also be that I have had the time to get used to my violin. Thanks for the question!
@@genehuangviolin thank you very much for posting this video. for mere mortals like me, this is probably the the only way to see and hear these precious instruments. i did wish the others in the room kept quiet and listened to these beautiful violins. If i may ask, which modern violin do you personally use?
@@kiwiviolin941 My primary violin was made in 1977 by Anne Cole, based out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Thanks for your kind words!
they all play out of tune equally well
Its not so easy to play several totally different violins after another; each violin is a little different, responds different etc.
@@christophgoldstein9084 thanks for mansplaining, boomer
Yours probably is even better out of tune since you waste time trolling videos instead of practicing.
@@kehwa “even better out of tune.” Nice. Take some time out of trolling trolls to learn English.
@@christophgoldstein9084 I agree but yeah it was too pitchy for my ears as well. I think in the defence of the violinist, he may have had an ear infection or something considering that the out of pitch notes were consistent
As you probably know that the 1st prize winner of International Paganini Violin Competition earns the privilege to play the Paganini’s own violin Cannone. I wonder what this guy had done to earn such a privilege to try out those historically famous violins? May be he is just lucky.
What are the strings on the violins? Are they the same on all the violins as it is difficult to see the windings at the tailpiece end. What about the bow? New or old? And the rosin? All the pieces in the system have to work together 🙂!
Unfortunately I don’t know what strings were on them. The bow was not one of the rare, old ones. Sorry I don’t have more info, but thanks for watching!
@@genehuangviolin Thank you very much for the info. If you ever get a chance to play a wonderful violin, please note 'the little things', I'm sure that it'll help someone...
Wow that's awesome! How did you get the chance to actually try them out?
It helps to know the right people at Chimei (I was lucky that someone in my traveling party did).
Which one do you like the most?
The “Elman” Strad made an immediate impression on me, but I may have been influenced by its name. If I had more time, I would have liked to explore the Amati some more. Thanks for watching!
The 1713 and the one with no label.
Go back and listen again, the 1713 is less shrill on the top and fuller on the bottom.
The last one is the Ole Bull Guarneri, 1744, I am pretty sure
Could be. What makes you think it’s Ole Bull - the sound? Physical marking?
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@@genehuangviolin physical making and the varnish
Dude, if the note is out of tune move your damn finger.
Nice tools.
It is the violinist who makes the quality of sound.
What is the piece after Thai meditation? 😅
It’s the D major section of Bach Chaconne.
And what bow did you use?
I didn’t ask about it, but I don’t think it was one of the rare antique bows.
For me, I prefer the first and last.
1) 1713 Strad is very nasal, something wrong with its setup.
Yeah, I felt the 1713 Strad was a bit more difficult to play than the other two Strads.
For my ears, just opinion:
1) 1713 Strad
2) 1722 Strad
3) 1656 Amati
4) 1732 Del Gesú
5) 1797 Strad
6) Ole Bull Del Gesú
O primeiro a ser apresentado foi o melhor sim top