True story: Jackie's old F1 boss and car designer, Ken Tyrell, always thought of drivers as just another part of his creations, much like a lug nut. In the early 70s he discovered that he could reduce aerodynamic drag by moving the brake rotors inboard into the foot box of the car. The problem was that the rotors, which were only inches from the drivers feet, heated up to a constant red color, turning white hot under hard braking. Ken's first solution was to outfit his drivers with asbestos driving boots but for some reason the drivers whined about it. He finally decided to replace his drivers with "men of far less than average height"! At least he didn't try to cut off the drivers feet at the knees!
LOL, JYS is no poser...I have heard him interviewed many times, he always speaks in a amatter of fact manner, telling the whole story, and to him the trip to the US was part of the story.
Thought Jackie was being very tactful and respectful in his comments here. He quite clearly thought it was an impressive machine but not up to much compared to F1 but didn’t let that cloud his descriptions, a class act
When indy cars looked and sounded the best. I barely remember Jackie Stewart as a kid but knew he was one of the greats. Wish he was racing during the Senna, Mansell, Schumacher era. He was a lot of fun and great to listen to when he was a commentator for the CART racing series around the late eighties.
What a wonderful video - thank you for putting it up! Now daydreaming of JYS driving these cars in the eighties up against Mears, Uncle Emmo, Al Sr. and Sullivan.
I think thats something most people dont remember is that CART prior to 2000 had cars that were very close to F1 cars in Technology, they costed 10s of millions of dollars to develop, you just didn't see it on the team budget like F1.
@@chumleyk no, that's wrong. The cars were very close up until about 2000 in terms of technology. That's when cart essentially halted development. Indys environment necessitated larger, faster cars and F1, quicker an nimble. F1 made a huge deal about their budgets as it's part of their image, while in Indycar it was always a massive point of contention and for the most part was hidden since actually car development wasnt part of a singular teams expenses, regardless Lola's, Reynard's and Penskes cost tens of millions to develop, along with the engines. I suggest you look up collectors that are lucky enough to own examples of both as they almost always bring up how close in sophistication they both are. It's important to note that CART made significantly more money than F1 in the late 80s and early 90s,so if you think the money wasnt there, you're wrong. The American market is just far superior to anything else. To this day the three most valuable leaves on earth are the NFL ,NBA and MLB in that order.
This was the pinnacle of American open wheel racing, from the late 80s to the split. Sleek machines powered by glorious engines piloted by charismatic and fast drivers.
The turbo lag (delay) he is talking about is similar to the one that the Brabham (and later other teams) drivers experimented between 1982 ~ 1988 with the 4-cyl BWM engines. Berger and Patrese described the lag being between 1 and 2 seconds, depending on the throttle pressure applied.
I prefer the looks of that old Indy car to the modern F1 car with 20 wings everywhere. The original Indy Lotus is another classic look. Yes, I know the new F1 cars are incredibly faster.
I heard Jackie mention that the single turbocharger on an indycar takes a couple of seconds before it kicks in. This is where I think Kevin Cogan blew the start at the '82 Indy 500 by failing to anticipate the amount of low end torque an indycar turbocharger can produce in a lower gear when he hit the gas.
This driver 'Jackie Stewart' is one of the greatest open wheelers of all-times. He won three World Titles and when not doing that, had the 1966 Indy 500 in the bag when he lost oil pressure. He then comes back and was running in top three of 67 Indy 500 when mechanical gremlins again, took him out. That is amazing talent folks!
Sad how unnecessarily complex and heavy the F1 cars are now. Had to put 180 hp electric motors and super soft tires on them to get, only recently mind you, track records.
Not sure how it's funny but I kind of see what you're getting at. The way I see it is both organizations are headed in very different directions. F1 is more of updating the technology for car to go faster. IndyCar is more focused on the racing in the drivers. Luckily though F1 is on the right path for better racing
@@landonbeamer1097 F1 cars are beautiful and absolutely amazing in this day and age of cost cutting, i love watching clips of the races on RUclips but an entire F1 race is like an elephant tranquilizer, its not in the same stratosphere as Indys racing product.
@@penskepc2374 Someone needs to help Indycar from going borderline bust because of the great racing. Did you go to any races or pay for the TV broadcasts? No.
I thought Indy cars for oval tracks had chassis designed asymmetrical with offset wheel tire combos in order to make it easier to turn left. That would make a miserable road course car, unless of course this wasn't the Indy 500 winning chassis as described, but rather its road course racer counterpart.
Of course, but from what I understood they used to build-up a different chassis for ovals than road courses. I remember reading somewhere that's why we don't see a lot of older IndyCars at vintage road course races because so many of them had a chassis setup for oval circuits. I got the feeling that it's not so easy to convert older chassis from one setup to another.
tscooter22 Some of the older era IndyCars used to be built much like a silver crown sprint car with shorter suspension arms on the left hand side but that was pretty much pre 1960's, the Lotus win in the early sixties pretty much killed the similarities to sprint cars found in IndyCars. By this time in the 80's CART ran on way more road courses than ovals so the chassis were built the same for road course or oval, they were set up asymetrically for Ovals but the chassis work was even and could be set up from ovel to road course and back, then the wings would be changed out from the low downforce oval wings to the high downforce road course wings. The problem is finding all these pieces to switch the car from oval to road course ready. It's not so much that the cars were special built for one or the other, its one thing to find an old chassis, it's another to find the many different sets of wings, spring, and damper sets that went into prepping one car from one to the other. That's why you tend to find that the old ones out there are set up for one or the other.
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis It sounds like as of now Pocono is back on the schedule but texas is still up in the air. Indycar wants to race at Circuit of the Americas in Austin and the owner of Texas Motor Speedway, Eddie Gossage is kinda a stupid asshole and wants to keep a clause in the contract for their race that doesn't allow other races in the state. Texas is such a huge state that that doesn't make sense as the two tracks are about a four hour drive apart. If Indycar goes to COTA Gossage may lose his race purely out of arrogance and a refusal to sign a new contract.
Weird, when it gets into the mid to high rpms, it sounds like it is not turbocharged, and like it is revving very, very high, like 15, 000 rpm. I never noticed that indy cars from this period sounded quite this high pitched. It sounds glorious.
A big reason for the suspension travel was Mid Ohio itself. All the cars ran without anti rollbars there, as it was always faster. Can't blame the cars for being behind technology just for that reason.
I think he probably preferred this car to any other he tested at the time (bar the Williams), a smooth and tractable engine, a spacious cockpit, and a relatively smooth ride with a great deal of suspension travel. When I used to race, I used to prefer watching CART, instead of F1 - but that was the late 90s...
Watkins Glen was supposed to be his farewell GP drive. But his teammate hit a guard rail, which tore the car in half. The car exploded and burned. The team withdrew. I only saw Jackie testing that weekend. Another sad day. They year before, a German died at the toe of the boot. That one I witnessed. I love hearing Jackie talk!
insomniac Yes. And thanks. It's a good thing I didn't try to spell his name, too! That's one name I remember, but I'd never spell it right. I went to the Glen for 2 GP races, and saw 2 drivers die. (OK, Francois died just before we arrived. And not at a part of the track we would have been at). What horrible times. Thank you, Jackie, and the (few) others that demanded safety. But Helmut - I was at turn 6, opposite the toe. All we really saw was a car going off. I don't think we found out he died until after the race? And I don't remember them stopping the race, but they must have. And it would have taken a long time to remove the car from between the armco rails. Plenty of time to walk down to see what was going on. I have a feeling they just kept on racing! Anyone remember?
@@jondoe8889 You're welcome. Of course I only read about it on the Internet. Apparently they put a blanket over his car with him still in it. No one knew about the accident except the Surtees team who then withdrew their other driver. I suppose the title fight between Emmo, Regazzoni and Scheckter was more important. And it's such a shame those two talented drivers lost their lives at the Glen. Such a beautiful track, but for some reason the organizers didn't properly install the armco barriers which caused two of the most horrific accidents in F1 history. Koinigg's crash in particular was so avoidable. He wasn't even going that fast when he crashed. I often wish I was born earlier to see the golden age of F1 and those beautiful cars and tracks, but at least today people don't get cut in half anymore..
The race was definitely not stopped when Koinigg had his fatal crash. The wreck of his car was covered with a tarpaulin, because he was decapitated by the barrier, I believe. Cevert's car one year before did not explode nor burned, but the poor Frenchman was sliding upside down along the barrier and literally cut in half with his Tyrrell 006. Two of the most horrible letal accidents in F1 history for sure. R.i.P.
Get Volume Booster. I can barely hear a thing at full volume. Jackie Stewart is a shrimp, as are most F1 drivers. Mansell was the tallest at a litlle over 6' Ford owns a large stake in British Leyland (Jaguar)
rcby525 ended his life when he finally realized his judgements on the world were actually his judgments on himself, and he could escape his self negativity. RIP.
+C moore It absolutely was designed to turn right. The car he was driving is designed to run on both road and oval, they would just use a low down force aero package on the ovals. He was running the road course configuration in this video (obviously). In fact, 9 out of the 15 races in the 1988 season were at road courses.
+C moore Nobody outside of NASCAR ever really had separate cars for road and oval courses, a simple setup change is quite enough to have a car work well on both
+C moore Nobody outside of NASCAR ever really had separate cars for road and oval courses, a simple setup change is quite enough to have a car work well on both
"Road course" is such an odd term, specifically American. A race track is a race track, and a road is a road. A "road course" if analysed accordingly, would imply a public road temporarily used as a race track, but is instead hi-jacked by the American language as a course that has more than just left-hand corners in it. I twitch a little every time I hear a nonsense Americanism such as this one. Don't even get me started on "Railroads" instead of "Railways".
If you are talking about an american car at an american track, you need to be ready for american words. In the US, there are a lare number of different kinds of race tracks from road courses to dirt tracks, to drag strips. They are all different.
I love how Jackie never failed to refer to himself as “a man of average height.” If you say so, you legend.
Yeah, is Rick Mears smaller than Jackie???
@@larrylem3582 Beats me, but Danny DeVito is. :D
@@micowikstrom7182 So is Tatoo from Fantasy Island, but just slightly...
True story: Jackie's old F1 boss and car designer, Ken Tyrell, always thought of drivers as just another part of his creations, much like a lug nut. In the early 70s he discovered that he could reduce aerodynamic drag by moving the brake rotors inboard into the foot box of the car. The problem was that the rotors, which were only inches from the drivers feet, heated up to a constant red color, turning white hot under hard braking. Ken's first solution was to outfit his drivers with asbestos driving boots but for some reason the drivers whined about it. He finally decided to replace his drivers with "men of far less than average height"! At least he didn't try to cut off the drivers feet at the knees!
Subtle joke.
Those old CART engines had such a unique sound to them.
I was at Indy on the Gold Coast from 91-2000 and they sounded great and the Methonal smelt great! I sure do miss them coming to Australia:(
Yeah. Gone now !!!
LOL, JYS is no poser...I have heard him interviewed many times, he always speaks in a amatter of fact manner, telling the whole story, and to him the trip to the US was part of the story.
I like the fact nobody tripped about the ford patch on his driving suit.
Judging from the fit, I'd guess that he was wearing his 15yr old Tyrell F1 suit.
Well, that’s only for fans to b#tch about that 😂
Thought Jackie was being very tactful and respectful in his comments here. He quite clearly thought it was an impressive machine but not up to much compared to F1 but didn’t let that cloud his descriptions, a class act
Esses carros são feitos para ovais
When indy cars looked and sounded the best. I barely remember Jackie Stewart as a kid but knew he was one of the greats. Wish he was racing during the Senna, Mansell, Schumacher era.
He was a lot of fun and great to listen to when he was a commentator for the CART racing series around the late eighties.
He raced in a better era around Jim Clark , Graham Hill , Brabham , Surtees , Gurney.
What a wonderful video - thank you for putting it up! Now daydreaming of JYS driving these cars in the eighties up against Mears, Uncle Emmo, Al Sr. and Sullivan.
Sir Jackie is such a stud -- imagine winning an F1 race by over 4 minutes! He doesn't have to imagine it because he did it.
TBH the field was far less competitive and more spread out during races then
I think thats something most people dont remember is that CART prior to 2000 had cars that were very close to F1 cars in Technology, they costed 10s of millions of dollars to develop, you just didn't see it on the team budget like F1.
Prior to 1990 maybe, for the average team. But F1 from '85 onwards was racing ahead in terms of tech and budget from the midfield upwards.
@@chumleyk no, that's wrong. The cars were very close up until about 2000 in terms of technology. That's when cart essentially halted development. Indys environment necessitated larger, faster cars and F1, quicker an nimble. F1 made a huge deal about their budgets as it's part of their image, while in Indycar it was always a massive point of contention and for the most part was hidden since actually car development wasnt part of a singular teams expenses, regardless Lola's, Reynard's and Penskes cost tens of millions to develop, along with the engines.
I suggest you look up collectors that are lucky enough to own examples of both as they almost always bring up how close in sophistication they both are.
It's important to note that CART made significantly more money than F1 in the late 80s and early 90s,so if you think the money wasnt there, you're wrong. The American market is just far superior to anything else. To this day the three most valuable leaves on earth are the NFL ,NBA and MLB in that order.
@@chumleyk you are wrong
Good Ol' Sir Jackie Stewart.
pure excellence in every aspect
This was the pinnacle of American open wheel racing, from the late 80s to the split. Sleek machines powered by glorious engines piloted by charismatic and fast drivers.
It was pinnacle of American racing period. Lots of great drivers drove nascar but those cars and the tracks are just boring. Different kind of racing
The turbo lag (delay) he is talking about is similar to the one that the Brabham (and later other teams) drivers experimented between 1982 ~ 1988 with the 4-cyl BWM engines. Berger and Patrese described the lag being between 1 and 2 seconds, depending on the throttle pressure applied.
I remember an F1 driver (maybe Keke Rossberg) saying "When you press the pedal, nothing happens. Then, _everything_ happens.
When Jackie was racing, it was more challenging and dangerous than today. Life expectancy for drivers wasn't very good.
I prefer the looks of that old Indy car to the modern F1 car with 20 wings everywhere.
The original Indy Lotus is another classic look.
Yes, I know the new F1 cars are incredibly faster.
Wait until 2022
i wish the new Chevy v6 indycar engine would sound like this!
2:06
I heard Jackie mention that the single turbocharger on an indycar takes a couple of seconds before it kicks in. This is where I think Kevin Cogan blew the start at the '82 Indy 500 by failing to anticipate the amount of low end torque an indycar turbocharger can produce in a lower gear when he hit the gas.
Sure, genius, because he had never driven one in his entire lifetime before that very moment. Too bad you hadn't been there to coach him beforehand.
This driver 'Jackie Stewart' is one of the greatest open wheelers of all-times. He won three World Titles and when not doing that, had the 1966 Indy 500 in the bag when he lost oil pressure. He then comes back and was running in top three of 67 Indy 500 when mechanical gremlins again, took him out. That is amazing talent folks!
And could have won a lot more but he quit o0ver F1 arcane safety rules.He got tired of seeing his friends die.
Lady Lulu has nothing on Sir Jackie, never will!!
Isnt it funny that the F1 car is bigger now than the IndyCar.
Sad how unnecessarily complex and heavy the F1 cars are now. Had to put 180 hp electric motors and super soft tires on them to get, only recently mind you, track records.
Not sure how it's funny but I kind of see what you're getting at. The way I see it is both organizations are headed in very different directions. F1 is more of updating the technology for car to go faster. IndyCar is more focused on the racing in the drivers. Luckily though F1 is on the right path for better racing
all that matters is indy is wider, f1 got really thin until they widened them out again
@@landonbeamer1097 F1 cars are beautiful and absolutely amazing in this day and age of cost cutting, i love watching clips of the races on RUclips but an entire F1 race is like an elephant tranquilizer, its not in the same stratosphere as Indys racing product.
@@penskepc2374 Someone needs to help Indycar from going borderline bust because of the great racing. Did you go to any races or pay for the TV broadcasts? No.
nicely let down on the air jacks there at the start *clunk*
More like BANG
The cart cars in the 80’s and 90’s are the best looking open wheel race cars ever. Formula one cars were good looking from about 88 until 1995.
Sebastian Vettel needs to do a modern day version of this, just going around making videos about different racing cars
I like how the farther you go back in time, the more indistinguishable they look to the F1 cars of the time.
I thought Indy cars for oval tracks had chassis designed asymmetrical with offset wheel tire combos in order to make it easier to turn left. That would make a miserable road course car, unless of course this wasn't the Indy 500 winning chassis as described, but rather its road course racer counterpart.
Of course, but from what I understood they used to build-up a different chassis for ovals than road courses. I remember reading somewhere that's why we don't see a lot of older IndyCars at vintage road course races because so many of them had a chassis setup for oval circuits. I got the feeling that it's not so easy to convert older chassis from one setup to another.
tscooter22 Some of the older era IndyCars used to be built much like a silver crown sprint car with shorter suspension arms on the left hand side but that was pretty much pre 1960's, the Lotus win in the early sixties pretty much killed the similarities to sprint cars found in IndyCars. By this time in the 80's CART ran on way more road courses than ovals so the chassis were built the same for road course or oval, they were set up asymetrically for Ovals but the chassis work was even and could be set up from ovel to road course and back, then the wings would be changed out from the low downforce oval wings to the high downforce road course wings. The problem is finding all these pieces to switch the car from oval to road course ready. It's not so much that the cars were special built for one or the other, its one thing to find an old chassis, it's another to find the many different sets of wings, spring, and damper sets that went into prepping one car from one to the other. That's why you tend to find that the old ones out there are set up for one or the other.
How was the ear-o-dynamics Jackie?
When Jackie Stewart talks, people listen.
Is that Derrick Walker?
It is.
Love Sir Jackie
The flying Scotsman.....
I realize the image is compressed, vertically. This was a bad-ass looking car. It looks badder, lower and longer.
This car raced in the same year as the mp4/4, but the mp4/4 looks 10 years more advanced
to be fair the mp4/4 dominated that f1 season
"The days of the oval tracks are over." If only that had come true.
C RB nearly has now. Indy 500 will always be there and only gateway and iowa remain on the indy schedule for next year.
@@andypowell4702 is that true? No pocono or texas?
I realise poc is a triangle, stupid ppl like me think of speedways like it as ovals
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis It sounds like as of now Pocono is back on the schedule but texas is still up in the air. Indycar wants to race at Circuit of the Americas in Austin and the owner of Texas Motor Speedway, Eddie Gossage is kinda a stupid asshole and wants to keep a clause in the contract for their race that doesn't allow other races in the state. Texas is such a huge state that that doesn't make sense as the two tracks are about a four hour drive apart. If Indycar goes to COTA Gossage may lose his race purely out of arrogance and a refusal to sign a new contract.
Look at Mid Ohio then and now...wow.
I need these cars in rfactor.
RollingzokuMR2 historic simracing organisation had made it for rFactor
Quite a poser :) Had to catch the Concorde to NY then board a Private Aircraft to Ohio. Living the Life Jackie :)
And after flying with concorde he was SLOW, slow and slooow!
is the ilmor chevrolet engine a flat plane or cross plane engine
Flat-plane V8
Huh. At low revs it sounds like a crossplane V8.
Which year is this?
1988. Also, Roger Penske just bought the Indianapolis speedway and the Indycar Series.
Wow nice Kers!!!
Sorry mate, I forgot me snottered cream.
3-5 years behind was Jackie being generous.
Yeah, probably 5-8
Son parientes con Rod Stewart ?
1:52 I still don’t know what urbanonics is
I think he's saying "ergonomics".
No. There are enough terrible console racing games.
"I had to fly by Concorde and private jet to Ohio" ... Really, you sure you "had to" or are you just letting us all know thats how you got there?
He seems very overly protective of his image, very strange guy.
Very articulate…Jackie Stewart was also a world class clay pigeon shooting champion ….in his spare time
Terrible cars,very diferent F1 cars
Tell us you don't know anything about either class without actually telling us.
Weird, when it gets into the mid to high rpms, it sounds like it is not turbocharged, and like it is revving very, very high, like 15, 000 rpm. I never noticed that indy cars from this period sounded quite this high pitched.
It sounds glorious.
high compression engines
might be something to do with the waste gate opening making the exhaust essentially a straight header but im not an engineer so idk
It's around 10,000 rpm, redline 10,500ish. It would be far more high pitched at 15000
@josephdupont That was in 1988, so I think Jackie was about 49 years old then.
Its a pleasure to hear him review a car.Straight to the point but never dry.
royraiden But always pedantic. Lecturing the young and ignorant listeners.
A big reason for the suspension travel was Mid Ohio itself. All the cars ran without anti rollbars there, as it was always faster. Can't blame the cars for being behind technology just for that reason.
I think he probably preferred this car to any other he tested at the time (bar the Williams), a smooth and tractable engine, a spacious cockpit, and a relatively smooth ride with a great deal of suspension travel. When I used to race, I used to prefer watching CART, instead of F1 - but that was the late 90s...
what was your favorite CART driver from back then?
@@Saturn185 - sorry for the late reply. Paul Tracy was my favourite - always had been.
Sir Jackie, my favourite driver ever, my favourite commentator ever.
The big stewart
Stewart was one of the all-time greats and a gentleman of motor racing !
So it is !!!!!
One thing is still true in 2024, Roger Penske is the King...and even moreso now that he owns Indy outright.
The C8 Corvette ZO6 appears to make a very similar sound to this IndyCar
One of the greatest drivers ever!
mid-Ohio my home track.
Jackie Stewart? how dare you, its
Sir Jackie Stewart!!!!!!
Watkins Glen was supposed to be his farewell GP drive. But his teammate hit a guard rail, which tore the car in half. The car exploded and burned. The team withdrew. I only saw Jackie testing that weekend.
Another sad day. They year before, a German died at the toe of the boot. That one I witnessed.
I love hearing Jackie talk!
do you mean Helmut Koinigg? He was Austrian and died exactly a year after François
insomniac Yes. And thanks. It's a good thing I didn't try to spell his name, too! That's one name I remember, but I'd never spell it right. I went to the Glen for 2 GP races, and saw 2 drivers die. (OK, Francois died just before we arrived. And not at a part of the track we would have been at).
What horrible times. Thank you, Jackie, and the (few) others that demanded safety.
But Helmut - I was at turn 6, opposite the toe. All we really saw was a car going off. I don't think we found out he died until after the race? And I don't remember them stopping the race, but they must have. And it would have taken a long time to remove the car from between the armco rails. Plenty of time to walk down to see what was going on. I have a feeling they just kept on racing!
Anyone remember?
@@jondoe8889 You're welcome. Of course I only read about it on the Internet. Apparently they put a blanket over his car with him still in it. No one knew about the accident except the Surtees team who then withdrew their other driver. I suppose the title fight between Emmo, Regazzoni and Scheckter was more important.
And it's such a shame those two talented drivers lost their lives at the Glen. Such a beautiful track, but for some reason the organizers didn't properly install the armco barriers which caused two of the most horrific accidents in F1 history. Koinigg's crash in particular was so avoidable. He wasn't even going that fast when he crashed.
I often wish I was born earlier to see the golden age of F1 and those beautiful cars and tracks, but at least today people don't get cut in half anymore..
The race was definitely not stopped when Koinigg had his fatal crash. The wreck of his car was covered with a tarpaulin, because he was decapitated by the barrier, I believe. Cevert's car one year before did not explode nor burned, but the poor Frenchman was sliding upside down along the barrier and literally cut in half with his Tyrrell 006. Two of the most horrible letal accidents in F1 history for sure. R.i.P.
I love sir Jackie Stewart i miss his call in motorsports.
Jackie Stewart really liked testing cars. We actually could have had a "your car sucks" series.
Jackie also was a TV Host at 80's indycar CART series, mainly the infamous 1982 Indy 500 where he saw Gordon Smiley's gruesome death.
Indycars sounded so good back then.
Awesome car and driver!
I don't think he's Penske material
LOL yea he cant handl the Penske FIles
only because he doesn’t chew tobacco and spit everywhere
Nice vid.
where was this?
look like a beautiful circuit.
thanks
Get Volume Booster. I can barely hear a thing at full volume. Jackie Stewart is a shrimp, as are most F1 drivers. Mansell was the tallest at a litlle over 6' Ford owns a large stake in British Leyland (Jaguar)
I've stood next to Mansell, he'd be about 5'10.
Or like from 2:50-2:55 ;)
looks kind of trashy back then, heh
rcby525 ended his life when he finally realized his judgements on the world were actually his judgments on himself, and he could escape his self negativity. RIP.
The car he was driving was an oval track car. The cars are different for road courses. The car wasn't designed to make right turns.
+C moore It absolutely was designed to turn right. The car he was driving is designed to run on both road and oval, they would just use a low down force aero package on the ovals. He was running the road course configuration in this video (obviously). In fact, 9 out of the 15 races in the 1988 season were at road courses.
+C moore Nobody outside of NASCAR ever really had separate cars for road and oval courses, a simple setup change is quite enough to have a car work well on both
+C moore Nobody outside of NASCAR ever really had separate cars for road and oval courses, a simple setup change is quite enough to have a car work well on both
"Road course" is such an odd term, specifically American. A race track is a race track, and a road is a road. A "road course" if analysed accordingly, would imply a public road temporarily used as a race track, but is instead hi-jacked by the American language as a course that has more than just left-hand corners in it.
I twitch a little every time I hear a nonsense Americanism such as this one. Don't even get me started on "Railroads" instead of "Railways".
If you are talking about an american car at an american track, you need to be ready for american words. In the US, there are a lare number of different kinds of race tracks from road courses to dirt tracks, to drag strips. They are all different.