Forging a copper hammer / mallet
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video, I make a copper hammer that I need.
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Copper is such a funky material to forge. It looks cold but is hot. And it looks like cold steel. Great hammer glen!
Thanks Justin.
that is just about the nicest anvil I have seen, did you make it?
I designed my anvil and had it made. Thanks.
As always Glen, your articulate workmanship is an absolute pleasure to watch.
Tim, I've very glad you like this. Have a Merry Christmas.
Never tried copper forging. Tried yellow brass once in a coal forge. Went from hot yellow to clinkers in the blink of the eye!
Stan, Yes, non-ferrous metals like copper and brass can go from solid to liquid in a heart beat, especially in a coal forge. I once did the same... Thanks.
That's a thing of beauty. Copper is a fantastic metal.
Very nice, glen. Being an electrician and having access to copper, I have used it to practice my forging since I started. Thanks for sharing what you know.
Christopher, I was actually thinking that - using copper can be a good way to practice techniques and try out tooling without exerting the effort needed to move hot steel. Thanks.
Just now seeing this one... that looks superb, I'm very fond of that arc you put into your hammers. Very nicely done.
Thanks Kurt.
Well that copper mallet turned put pretty good. I can now appreciate the reason you designed your anvil that shape. Seems a bit scary that the copper has no warning _red tinge_ like steel
dav, I found that when the copper was a shiny, wet looking gray color, that it was ready to forge. I think if I took it to where it was a brighter color, like red or orange, that it would be on the edge of melting. But I really don't know much about working with copper and that would make a great experiment. Thanks.
Nice job,Glen! I'll have put that on my build list.
Martin, I'm glad you like this. I've found this copper hammer / mallet very useful so far. And forging copper is fun and a good break from steel. Thanks and good luck in your work. Glen
Copper also work hardens. As you use your hammer it will harden,. You might occasionally have to reheat and quench it to soften it up again if you find it getting too hard. I make rings and jewelry out of copper. I'll pound a piece of copper wire flat, then heat it up so I can form it into a ring. Afterwards I pound it around on a ring mandrel to harden it back up again. Otherwise you can pretty easily just crush the ring. Afterwards its a Lot harder to just crush. Beautiful hammer though. I'm sure it will work just fine.
Thanks for sharing.
Good Looking hammer and build!
I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year!!!!!
Enjoyed and gave a Thumbs Up
Russell, Not sure why, but your comments always go to my spam folder. Have a Merry Christmas and I wish you the best for 2019.
Once again. Beautiful. You always make the nicest things.
You should see about offering those on you website.
It is a beautiful piece. the material cost in the US would be VERY high.....Dave
Doug, A few guys have inquired if I intended to sell these - we'll see... I paid about $7 for this piece of copper. The shop I got it from allows you buy small pieces otherwise buying a full length of this would cost big time. Thanks for watching.
@@gstongs You may be on to something which would be great around a machine shop also. The online supplier that I buy most of my steel & aluminum from has what they call grade 110 Copper. A 2"square piece, 4" long would be just under $100 plus shipping.....Dave
Very nice hammer Glen, I have a brass billet big enough but that wont do, have to source some 25mm square copper!
how about a better look at that anvil?
Outstanding.
Thanks.
Very, very nice!
And I'm still astonished about how nice and clean your tools are. Keep it up!
Thijis, I have to keep my shop space and tooling organized and clean. My small work area would get cluttered quickly and the Taiwan humidity would rust everything in short order. Thanks for watching. Glen
❤️❤️wow this is real metal player
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I have to make such a mallet for my blacksmith shop.A nice project.
Tadeusz, So far, I've found this copper mallet very useful. Thanks for your support. Glen
So cool to see the machined hammer anvil make a copper hammer! The donuts won't stand a chance!
Also, Amazing how aggressive that file was!
Noah, It was very satisfying forging copper since it moves so easily when compared to steel. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment and reply to others. Glen
Glen it was a pleasure watching this edition. The mallet is great and should serve you for a very long time.. Great work.... Martin
Martin, I'm pleased with this copper mallet. I tried it and it works well for what I need. Thanks and have a happy holiday season.
I like the way you work, sat down instead of on your feet. Maybe someone could criticize you for not working as a 'conventional' blacksmith but, being older than 40 as I am, I know my knees can't stand long periods of time on my feet. You do well taking care of your health. Thanks for your videos, peace!
Marcelo, I started to sit for forging when I moved and found my work space so limited. It's been very good for me but you have to use extra caution as the dangers are more compared to standing. Thanks for watching and good luck in your work. Glen
Beautiful work, love the hammer head flip
Glad you like that. This hammer suits me well and I will try a few more projects using coper and do some experimenting. Thanks.
Beautiful
Great video, learned some new things. Beautiful tool you made.
Elaphae, I tried this hammer and it works very well for what I need. I will do some experiments with copper in future videos. Thanks for watching. Glen
Hey ho GST
That copper turned out such nice. Good job again. Thank you for sharing this vid. Happy holidays. Greetings
I will do more projects using copper and other non-ferrous metals. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas and great 2019.
Wow wonderful
Quenching Cooper make it softer! I didn't know that! Thanks for this video👍
Arnaud, I'm also finding out more about copper as I try projects like this. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment.
It's called annealing. If it is dropped into a weak solution of sulphuric acid it will come out both annealed and completely clean, with no black oxide on it.
The form is beautiful. Thanks
This turned out well and works for what I need. Glad you like it and thanks for watching. Glen
Gorgeous! Well done!
Much appreciated my friend. Good luck in all.
It didn't even really look like copper at the beginning, but it really became obvious after quenching (and also subsequent working). I would have liked to see it used, but we can't have everything. It looks like an interesting material to work with.
Brian, I feel that forging copper can be dangerous for exactly the reason you said. It looks completely cool when it's at forging temp. I think it can attain red / orange / yellow colors in the forge but it would be close to melting at that point. I found it to be ready for forging at a shiny, wet-looking gray color. Sorry I didn't use it on camera - it works well for what I need. I'll do more forging with copper. Thanks.
Very cool, thanks Glen.
Jay, Thanks for watching and for commenting. Have a happy holiday season. Glen
Sempre produzindo peças de alta qualidade.Grato por esse vídeo.
Salomao, I'm glad you like this one. Thanks for watching and commenting. Glen
Damned fine, I enjoyed that. Well done.
Kurt, I had fund with this project. Copper is so much easier to forge compared to steel. And this copper hammer works well for me. Thanks. Glen
it would have been much better if you explained how you decided or could tell what the temperature of the copper was when you were working it.
I want one to go with my beautiful tongs!
Chris, A few people have asked if I will sell this style copper hammer. We'll see... Thanks for your support and have a Merry Christmas.
Beautiful.
Muhammed, Thanks. Have a happy holiday season.
Where did you get the bullet of Copper from?
From a local shop that specializes in copper, brass and bronze. Thanks.
Why don’t you make an all-copper hammer? Even the handle?
Never thought about that. Maybe something to try. Thanks.
If space wasn't so enormously expensive in Taiwan...
douro20 And??.
Very nice tool sir
Duane, I'm glad you like it. Thanks for watching. Glen
Very nice indeed
Glad you like this. Thanks. Glen
hey if your still on about what temp do you work copper?
I'm not too familiar with copper myself but I've heard it can be worked at a very low temp like around 600°F
I can't say for sure but I would say between 500 and 800 F. Copper melts at about 1,100 F
Thanks.
Bravo !!! 👍
Thanks for watching. Glen
Nice video Glen!
Mark, I appreciate you watching. Have a great 2019.
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Quick question.. What kind of anvil are you using? And ware did you get it ?? Thanks for the information in advance.
James, Hi, my block style anvils are my own designs which I had made here where I live, in Taiwan. I was having a hard time finding an anvil here that suited my work style and so took advantage of the resources available and got these made. Thanks for watching.
@@gstongs Thank you for responding. I love the anvil desgin 🤘⚒️🤘
Sweet! Is that a special anvil? I've never seen one with concave and convex surfaces. ( not that I've seen that many Anvils anyway)
The block style anvils you see me using are my own designs which I had made here in Taiwan. The concave, convex one is the latest and I mainly use it for making hammers. Thanks for watching.
I was thinking that myself.
I really love using that anvil and will use it more for video projects. Thanks for watching.
Glen GS Tongs Glen, that must have been a bloody big lathe that they were turned on to get that size of metal turned!
very nice Glen again. Merry Xmass
Peter, It's my pleasure. I don't know a ton about copper and will do a few experimental videos using copper. Have a Merry Christmas as well. Glen
Excelente
Isaac, Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Nice
Glad you like this. Thanks for watching. Glen
What type of copper did you use?
I didn't even realize there are different types. Thanks for watching.
Looking forward to your next video, using the copper hammer. Curious to see if the copper will transfer to the metal, or not, and what that will look like.
Did the copper ever develop any red or orange color while heating? If not, how do you tell when its ready?
P.S. I like that you kept the patina on the hammer. Beautiful! Also, can you torch it to bring out other colors (yellows, reds, purple, blue, etc.)?
Mark, I used this copper hammer and it works well. Lightly striking dull red steel actually marked the hammer face some but that's OK. The copper never got red or orange in the forge or at least I didn't leave it in long enough to get there as that would be close to melting. I just guessed when it was ready which seemed to be a shiny, wet looking gray color. I'm not sure if patina colors other than red/orange are possible. I plan to do a video where I experiment with this. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.
Very cool! Copper really is some near and gratifying material to work with, too bad it's so pricey (relatively). Speaking of which, how much did that chunks cost ya? Thanks for sharing!
Hi, I paid about $7 for this piece. Luckily, they will sell you even a small piece here - no need to buy a full length. Your'e right, very satisfying to hammer on such a relatively soft material. And I think forging copper can be a good way to more easily practice some techniques and try out some tooling without expending the energy needed for forging steel. But costly... Have a Merry Christmas.
Question, out of curiosity what would you use a copper mallet for and thanks. I really admire your craftsmanship.
leobardo, Copper mallets are often used when you want to strike a surface but not mar that surface., put dings or dents in it. An example would be someone who uses wooden woodworking planes. For me, I want to strike hot steel to bend it without adding any dings. Thanks for watching. Glen
Thank you for the response
Beautiful piece! Forgive me if I missed it, but I was curious why you "curved" the hammer?
To make it match the arc of the swing to hit flat.
Will, David said it perfectly. But I also do this for looks - it gives the hammer some character in my opinion. Thanks.
David, Thanks for your spot on reply. Glen
Forgive me for what may be common knowledge, but that sweet looking anvil, is it custom made? Beautiful work on that copper mallet BTW!
Tony, Yes, the small, block style anvils I use are my own designs which I had made here in Taiwan. Glad you like this mallet (it works well for me) and have a great 2019. Glen
Really nice. Does brass forge similar to copper? Would that work for this application?
Neil, That's a good question but one I can't answer completely. I think they would forge similarly but brass being an alloy would probably just be a little harder to forge. As far using as a mallet, I wanted to go as soft as possible and so opted for copper ore brass. But for all I know, brass might have been just as good if not better (and cheaper). I will experiment with these non-ferrous metals more. Have a Merry Christmas. Glen
No, it doesn’t. It’s a much more brittle metal and will highly likely break in use; when (not if) it breaks it will go into shards...you may spend some time picking them out of your skin. Copper headed mallets have been used for a long, long time for their weight and lack of marring on harder metals (most!). I’ve only ever seen very small brass headed hammers used in watch making, but they have nowhere near the overall utility of a copper headed mallet.
I’m curious as to the semi hot forging of Copper here though. When I work Copper and Bronze, I work it cold, in its annealed state. When your metal is work hardened, heat it to red heat, plunge it into water to keep it annealed and carry on. When I’ve tried working Bronze and Copper at red/orange heat (though not black heat as here) they have broken almost immediately.
Wont it just work harden the face and eventually start leaving marks?
Matthew, I think you're right. Eventually it will work harden but I don't think it will ever get hard enough to mar moderately hot steel. So far, this works very well for my purpose. Much better than the wooden mallet I was using. Thanks for watching.
Awesome looking hammer Glen! What's the Finnish weight? Was wondering if you've ever tried to forge brass. Curious if the repeated heats would effect the integrity of the alloy in any way.
Jeff, This copper mallet weighs about 1.25 pounds. I have limited experience with brass (and copper) and am especially not sure how brass (being an alloy) would change from forging. But that's a good question for sure, something to maybe experiment with. Thanks for watching.
I dont think it is copper alloy.Just copper
Brass hates bending as far as my experience goes with it but if it was kept hot it shouldn't be too bad. It's a lot tougher than just pure copper though
Why would you heat treat the copper? If anything it will make it softer.
That's what he wanted. A hammer with strength enough to move metal but not mar the surface of the metal. Heat treating gives it the softness needed to accomplish this.
Mark Clark the thing is it’s already softer then heated steel. I don’t see the need to do that. Or maybe I do bc copper work hardens....🤔🤔
@@jobbutcher1793 You have to anneal, because copper absolutely work hardens...
My main reason to quench the copper was to make it as soft as possible so there's no chance of marring the hot steel I want to strike. But you might be right that this step may be overkill. But I also wanted to bring out some red tints on the copper - see how that would look. Thanks for watching and thanks to Mark and Noah for replying.
Только меня интересует вопрос? Зачем, для чего?
Тяжелый, мягкий... Кожа, резина или из другого материала киянка ни как да? Свинца залил и спи спокойно... Этот молоток если не развальцует то порежет об кромки и развальцует...
Nik, Hi, I use this copper hammer for hitting on hot steel, when I want to bend small pieces but not mar the hot steel. Leather, rubber or wood would not be suitable for use on hot steel. I used a wooden mallet for a long time but kept burning it. Thanks for watching.
@@gstongs Приветствую. Использую деревянные молотки смоченные водой. Идеально очищают металл от окалины и прилипшего шлака. Практически не горят.
Да действительно для маленьких деталей, для их изгибания с минимальной деформацией, лучше подойдёт молоток из мягкого металла. Медь по своим характеристикам приближена по твёрдости и плотности раскалённой стали.
Привык что бойки молотков и поверхность наковальни должна быть полированная. Поэтому и зашел разговор о разбивании медного молотка.
Nik, Wetting the wooden mallet before using is a good idea. And yes, copper seems to be about the same hardness as hot steel so I try to keep the hot steel in the low temperature range when using this cooper mallet. It sometimes leaves small marks but not enough to be a concern. Thanks.
@@gstongs Будет лучше если ударную часть деревянного молотка проварить в кипятке. После просто перед ковкой замачивать в воде. Таким образом древесина не будет пересыхать. То есть влажным будет не только поверхностный слой. И с каждым ударом будет выделятся порция влаги что при превращении в пар будет сдувать окалину и шлак. Варка древесины укрепляет и уменьшает растрескивание древесины. Волокна становятся более пластичны. Замачивания хватит и 10-20 минут. Зависит от плотности древесины.
Железное дерево слишком сложно пропитать) За то превосходная и тяжелая киянка.
Пожалуйста.
OMG. I love copper like noother metal
Marcus, I have to say that forging this copper hammer was very satisfying. It moves so much easier compared to steel and is nice change for me. Some others have asked if I intend to sell the style copper hammer - I'm not sure - we'll see... I will definitely do more projects with copper / /copper forging. Thanks for watching and commenting. Glen
Does copper change colour when it's very hot but I think that's white hot correct me if I'm wrong
Joshua, To be honest, I'm not very sure. I think that copper can reach red / orange / yellow colors in the forge but you ave to be careful since that's close to melting. I found that when it was at a shiny, wet-looking gray color, that it was ready to forge. I will experiment more with copper and see about the color change... Thanks for watching. Glen
Copper will turn red hot like steel but not for very long before it starts to melt. I just made three copper bracelets for my wife and daughters, may have melted some in the forge!! Like steel or any other metal the thinner it is the quicker it goes.
Wjat kind of Jaws are those on your vise?
Mild steel that I had welded on. I don't like using hard, serrated jaws. Thanks for watching.
@@gstongs right on, they look like they work well
tyler krug the problem is that welding like that to cast iron won't hold. Eventually the steel will part company with the cast iron jaws. I did a similar thing to a tool rest for my wood lathe, it had a hard knock when I had a catch and the steel I had MIG welded on beautifully just dropped right off.
Are going offer the copper mallet on your website? I think it would be a good seller.
Danny, A few people have asked this same question, we'll see... I really need to update my website - add some items / pics and remove others. Thanks for your support. Glen
0:41 my wife says same about herself
avo, Ha! I know I shouldn't laugh at that joke but you had me cracking up - too funny... Thanks for watching.
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Nice! Feel free to embed your videos on our homemade tools forum; looks like you're one of us - www.homemadetools.net/forum/
Are you sitting down?
mort, Yes, I sit when forging. I started doing this years ago, when we moved (back) to Taiwan and I found my work space limited. It seemed like it would suit my situation and at this point, I'm not sure I can go back to standing. Thanks for watching.
You didnt finish it...
I didn't want to show the handling process but this hammer is definitely finished and works well for what I need. Thanks for watching.
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Edward, Thanks for watching.
Doesn't look like copper though
Joshua, Yes, it really doesn't look like copper when I'm forging it. Thanks.