Hi David how are you?. Just a curious question do you find where your buttons are on your joystick for your third function being a comfortable spot? That's the way they installed mine when I picked it up had to loosen the nuts turn it counterclockwise so the buttons were by my thumb just seemed like they were in my way otherwise when I was running the loader. find it more comfortable using my thumb quicker and smoother up and down with my thumb like I said just curious just a question
Hi BB, sorry for the VERY slow reply but I just found this comment was held by RUclips. Anyway, I really like the buttons on the front, but I suppose if it had been delivered to me with them on the thumb side I would have gotten used to that too!
Man I really enjoy your videos! So calm and enjoyable. Every video gives me that warm lazy Sunday afternoon vibe! So helpful getting through these cold Canadian winters... Thank you, now I really want... Need a grapple!
Hey, Ross! Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad that my non-snow videos can help you guys in the north feel a little more like spring time. And yes, I think you definitely need a grapple! Have a great day! 😀
Yes. YES. More grapple action for my personal study. I appreciate this. I like the single top jaw for cleaning/clearing small debris. I may end up going that direction, but I do like the double top jaws as well for large, oddly-shaped objects. I guess I can always grab the fork grapple for boulders or stumps. As far as burn piles go, I go pretty big on mine, but I'm at least 200 feet from any trees, and I usually only burn when it's really wet. For your area, I'd keep a burn pile very small. However, it looks like things stay fairly wet this time of year for you.
Hey Logan! I decided against the split top because I wasn't sure if the FEL on the compact could handle an unevenly weighted load very well. My logs are thin and straight, so ideal for my grapple type. Your tractor is much bigger and would probably handle a split-top pretty well. Yes it's wet even after a week of sun! Thanks for watching, buddy! :)
I can thank a bad back and "Army knees" for using the tractor in any way I can! It does work very well. I have a few videos now showing the techniques. Thanks for watching!
Hi David! Great grapple work and technique! Thanks for the tips and tricks along the way. BTW, you have a beautiful piece of property! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, Martin! We absolutely love it here and the variety of all the different types of trees, the flat land, and the hills! I appreciate you watching and supporting the channel, my friend!
good job, i actually used my grapple in place of a disk for a new food plot and little garden area for the wife. dropped the grapple and pushed breaking up the ground while tiller going behind me made quick work of a garden.
Thank you very much! Yes, the grapple (this type anyway) can do so much more than just carry logs around. When we go to seed this area for wildflowers, I'm going to do the same thing pretty much. Thanks for supporting my channel! - David
@@PaleHorseOutdoors i have the same grapple just a little bigger i think for the L2501 the back dragging with it closed was new to me and i will be using that technique.
@@stalrev Nice! Mine is the 60" one. I've also been thinking of welding on some expanded metal across the teeth to create more surface area when picking up looser material. The back drag technique definitely has its uses - especially for light grading/smoothing - and lets you just keep going.
Good day eh!!! You are becoming a master with the grapple and your technique for using it as a rake is ideal. The results are very good. BTW, those piles of brush you have are not too big. They'll burn up pretty quick. Great video David. Thanks and take care!!
Thank you, Mike! I really do appreciate all the tips you guys are giving for the brush pile. Just like with the box blade, your encouragement will help me get it done! Have a great day, buddy!
Nice job David. I don't think the pile is too big. I would burn it on a calm day with some dampness on the ground so the leaves don't catch in the woods. I burnt a much larger one a couple weeks ago with a foot and a half of snow on the ground and was still nervous. Just trust yourself and if it doesn't feel good, then adjust what makes you question yourself. Take care and stay safe. Hey, no snow - I love it.....
Thank you, Mike! Yes sir, it's been like spring here for the last week or so. A year ago today there was still around 14" of snow on the ground. It's a really nice change of pace! Thanks for the insights on the burn. I guess we'll always be nervous when burning brush! Have a great day! 😀
Great techniques and tips. David, if you are uncomfortable with the size if that burn pile, make it smaller, you are the best judge as size doesn't really show through the camera. Once it burns down to a little more than embers, use your grapple and throw a bit more on it. I have burnt many piles and am still nervous on every one. The thing we have going for use though though is we both have equipment, so if the fire starts getting bigger than we like, we can throw a little dirt on it to slow it down.
Great points, Joey. I can't really get water down to that site easily, but I can always use dirt to keep the fire in check. Thanks for watching, my friend!
I always enjoy watching you do grapple work and thank for the tips. I think lots of practice comes into this too. We need to get into this grapple action, we have a compact tractor with the third function. The size of your burn pile looks fine, we have started with much bigger piles. The only issue might be how close it is to your trees and wind strengh.
Hey Joseph! Yep, you need a grapple! I'm mostly concerned with the wind we get here, especially down where the pile is. I'll figure it out. :) Thanks for watching!
I love that grapple! I also like the magnetic hood camera mount! I have one too but it would scratch the heck out of my hood. You must have got a rubber coated one or something! Great vid as usual! Thanks for posting and have a great week!
Hi Derk! Thanks so much :) Yes these magnetic mounts have a nice rubber base that protects the finish but they still grab like crazy. I get mine from BHPhoto for about $12 each. Thanks for watching, buddy!
Nice video David 👍 You can burn a little at a time with the awesome grapple it would not take long to separate the pile into smaller ones😁 Have a great week😁👍🚜💨💡
If you don’t end up with a grapple sponsorship eventually something is wrong! I’ve never seen someone use a grapple for so many applications. Again your the grapple master!
LOL well that would be cool! Honestly, that grapple is such a necessity for me I don't know how I'd get along without it. I can't imagine how long all this work I've done so far would have taken without my grapple! Thank, Ben! I appreciate it, buddy. :)
Hey David, another great video 👍 I think that pile is just fine to burn 🔥. Personally I would add a little more to it but I like big fires. 😀 You're in a good open area away from other trees and nice green grass as a buffer, so no real worries about it getting out of hand. Keep up the great work. Take care buddy . 👋
Hey Kyle! Thank you very much, bud. I've gotten a lot of good tips and thoughts from you guys about the brush pile today. I appreciate it my friend! I see you have a new logo, too!
Good job David. Jealous of your grapple! Cancelled mine when I ordered tractor due to supply issues, and bought wood chipper instead which was on showroom floor. May get grapple someday so thanks for the grapple tips!
Oh man, I know how you must have felt! I waited 4 months for my tractor because of the grapple. I'm glad I waited though. I'm trying to get rid of my chipper now though, LOL. Thanks buddy!
Enjoyed the video. 👍 I have a 2018 Kubota L2501 with the same grapple you have. It and the 3rd function added about 3k to the purchase price at the time. A little pricey in a way, but WELL worth the additional cost.
You can burn with the wind on the leeward side of the pile so it does not catch all in one shot....It burns a little at the time.... You can do a lot of jobs with that rack....handy to have for sure....CHEERS
Another good video as always David. QUESTION: Around the 2:05-2:13 mark...is the pan right something you did in post? I like it, just not sure how else you might have done it! Have a great week!
Great tips on other uses for the grapple David, you definitely know how to use it 👍🏻. As for the burn pile, I find it a bit close to the other conifer trees 😳 but could be because of the camera angle 🤷🏼♂️. Have a great week my friend 🙋🏼♂️🙂👍🏻. Just curious David, when do you usually start seeing buds in your trees? Thanks
Hey Luc! Thank you sir. :) This is our second spring (almost) here so hard to tell when the buds typically start to show. A year ago this week we had 14" of snow on the ground. This year we've had a week of sun and 50f-60f temperatures. I can tell you this - things are beginning to bud now and the grass is starting to grow. Thanks for watching, my friend :)
I've gotten by without a grapple for years but sometimes I want to move piles of brush and logs long distances around our farm--and moving with my mini-excavator isn't practical. So I priced a grapple and a 3rd function for my Kubota L3901 yesterday and got some sticker shock. Wow. So I put it on my wish list, but I think a dump trailer is a higher priority! Is the fence built?
Yes they are expensive and the cost of the 3rd function valve doesn't help. I got my grapple at the time of purchase (at 0% interest) so I haven't really felt it. But even so, I could not have done anywhere near the amount of work I've done so far without the grapple. As I get older and more broken from military service, I see that this is the attachment that's going to let me work longer. I need a trailer also, so that's on my wish list! Thanks for watching, friend!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors I agree on "smarter not harder". We just did 700' of fence (videos out soon) and I felt it differently than the 900" we did just 2 years ago. Retired Air Force here....now working for the Navy. Take care. Brad
Thank you for your service, Brad! When I got out of the Army I went to work for a company in Fairfax, VA making training materials for all branches of the military. Luckily I get to work from home for that so we live on the other side of the US. I'm 54 now and needing the equipment more and more! Have a great day!
How far are you from Kent,WA? I’ve spent some time there. I would fly into Seatec, , spend 1-2 days in Seattle area, drive to Vancouver BC and fly home from there. All on business. Great video.
Hey Scott! Kent is about 50 miles as the crow flies. It's about an hour drive time going down around Puget Sound and up I-5. Let me know if you're over this way again!
How do you like the 3rd function buttons facing the front? I have the Kubota OEM 3rd function and joystick buttons installed facing me. I find it hard to differentiate the two buttons with gloves. Also, I believe my buttons are smaller.
I love them on the front. It makes the most sense to me to have them there and gloves are no problem at all. I don't know if mine is Kubota or 3rd party, but I've seen this one on other videos too. Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it! - David
Thank you, Robin! I got a mount made for the B2601. The story of that and the install is in this video I made: ruclips.net/video/It87-9n3mDU/видео.html
Nice video David! I’ve been meaning to ask you (and it might make a good video!!) . . . what is the story behind your channel name? Stay safe out there!
Hey Sam! Well it's a long story but here's the short version. It's a line from a screenplay that I wrote a few years ago. We named the production company Pale Horse Films when we produced the script. So when I was trying to think of a name for this channel it just sounded right for me. Thanks for asking and watching! :)
Boy David, do I ever kick myself for not getting a grapple. I keep saying next year. Well this is next year from last year when I sad that. The well took priority this year band still may. Still looking at $15,000 -$20,000 to fix it right. The grapple has waited this long. may have to wait 1 more year.
The grapple is sure worth every penny my friend! I hope you get yours very soon! Thank you for watching and your support!! I hope you and the missus have a wonderful night!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors . I have thought about ding something similar to what Mitch from MJA Doing Stuff did. also a copy somewhat of Logans from Fabbed Fun Masseysaurus. I have the John Deere 520 with the loader and dirt blade on the bucket. That tractor will out lift the Kubota badly. it isn't even close. I have seen my Dad lift a 16 ft long green red oak log up onto a flatbed truck bed. Many times. My Kubota wouldn't lift half of those logs. I wouldn't want to push it that hard any way. I use the 520 to lift logs up off of the ground and then cut from each end until I reach the loader. It would be safer with a grapple attachment to pinch the log to the loader and keep it from coming off and squashing me like a cockroach.
@@tractortalkwithgary1271 I'm still "grappling" with the best way for me to buck wood. As you say, the grapple would get it up waist high and pinch the logs down while bucking. My biggest issue is getting the logs off the ground in the first place without having to use the tractor so much for that. I'm also considering a large bucking table, but since I don't want that in the middle of the meadow down there, I'd have to build it up by the shop and move all the logs there. There are lots of options to consider, I just have to keep from making my joints and back worse!
Thank you for watching! If you're a new subscriber, welcome! If you're already a subscriber, thank you for coming back for another show! :) - David
Hi David how are you?. Just a curious question do you find where your buttons are on your joystick for your third function being a comfortable spot? That's the way they installed mine when I picked it up had to loosen the nuts turn it counterclockwise so the buttons were by my thumb just seemed like they were in my way otherwise when I was running the loader. find it more comfortable using my thumb quicker and smoother up and down with my thumb like I said just curious just a question
Hi BB, sorry for the VERY slow reply but I just found this comment was held by RUclips. Anyway, I really like the buttons on the front, but I suppose if it had been delivered to me with them on the thumb side I would have gotten used to that too!
Man I really enjoy your videos! So calm and enjoyable. Every video gives me that warm lazy Sunday afternoon vibe! So helpful getting through these cold Canadian winters... Thank you, now I really want... Need a grapple!
Hey, Ross! Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad that my non-snow videos can help you guys in the north feel a little more like spring time. And yes, I think you definitely need a grapple! Have a great day! 😀
Ross, you NEED a grapple! Believe me!
Having the right tool for the job makes things nice. Little bit of mud this time of year but it wasn’t bad 👍
Thank you, Dave! Yes it wasn't too bad. We've had about a week of sun, but still a little wet. Thanks for watching!
Property is looking great! That grapple sure is handy!
It's my favorite! Thanks for watching, Lucas :)
Yes. YES. More grapple action for my personal study. I appreciate this. I like the single top jaw for cleaning/clearing small debris. I may end up going that direction, but I do like the double top jaws as well for large, oddly-shaped objects. I guess I can always grab the fork grapple for boulders or stumps.
As far as burn piles go, I go pretty big on mine, but I'm at least 200 feet from any trees, and I usually only burn when it's really wet. For your area, I'd keep a burn pile very small. However, it looks like things stay fairly wet this time of year for you.
Hey Logan! I decided against the split top because I wasn't sure if the FEL on the compact could handle an unevenly weighted load very well. My logs are thin and straight, so ideal for my grapple type. Your tractor is much bigger and would probably handle a split-top pretty well. Yes it's wet even after a week of sun! Thanks for watching, buddy! :)
I wouldn't have thought to use a grapple to rake like that. Looks like it works pretty well. Another awesome video!
I can thank a bad back and "Army knees" for using the tractor in any way I can! It does work very well. I have a few videos now showing the techniques. Thanks for watching!
Hi David! Great grapple work and technique! Thanks for the tips and tricks along the way. BTW, you have a beautiful piece of property! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, Martin! We absolutely love it here and the variety of all the different types of trees, the flat land, and the hills! I appreciate you watching and supporting the channel, my friend!
Nice work David! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you, Todd! I appreciate you watching. :)
Good evening Grapple Master Sergeant 😉👍👌 OUTSTANDING TRACTOR THERAPY VIDEO SIR 👌👍😉 Keep having fun Sir Cheers 🍻
LOL I like the Rank! Thanks for watching, David. Cheers!!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors 😇👌👍🍻
good job, i actually used my grapple in place of a disk for a new food plot and little garden area for the wife. dropped the grapple and pushed breaking up the ground while tiller going behind me made quick work of a garden.
Thank you very much! Yes, the grapple (this type anyway) can do so much more than just carry logs around. When we go to seed this area for wildflowers, I'm going to do the same thing pretty much. Thanks for supporting my channel! - David
@@PaleHorseOutdoors i have the same grapple just a little bigger i think for the L2501 the back dragging with it closed was new to me and i will be using that technique.
@@stalrev Nice! Mine is the 60" one. I've also been thinking of welding on some expanded metal across the teeth to create more surface area when picking up looser material. The back drag technique definitely has its uses - especially for light grading/smoothing - and lets you just keep going.
Very nice and informative grappling work . Looking forward to the next video ! Del
Thank you, Del! I appreciate you watching, my friend :)
Good day eh!!! You are becoming a master with the grapple and your technique for using it as a rake is ideal. The results are very good. BTW, those piles of brush you have are not too big. They'll burn up pretty quick. Great video David. Thanks and take care!!
Thank you, Mike! I really do appreciate all the tips you guys are giving for the brush pile. Just like with the box blade, your encouragement will help me get it done! Have a great day, buddy!
Great video David. The grapple is one of the handiest attachments there is.
They sure are, Case! Thanks for watching, buddy!
Nice job David. I don't think the pile is too big. I would burn it on a calm day with some dampness on the ground so the leaves don't catch in the woods. I burnt a much larger one a couple weeks ago with a foot and a half of snow on the ground and was still nervous. Just trust yourself and if it doesn't feel good, then adjust what makes you question yourself. Take care and stay safe. Hey, no snow - I love it.....
Thank you, Mike! Yes sir, it's been like spring here for the last week or so. A year ago today there was still around 14" of snow on the ground. It's a really nice change of pace! Thanks for the insights on the burn. I guess we'll always be nervous when burning brush! Have a great day! 😀
Really nice grapple work. I wouldn't be afraid to even double the size of that burn pile. Just stack it higher rather than wider.
Thank you! Good idea. I'm sure I'll get a lot of great tips from you guys. I appreciate it!
Great techniques and tips. David, if you are uncomfortable with the size if that burn pile, make it smaller, you are the best judge as size doesn't really show through the camera. Once it burns down to a little more than embers, use your grapple and throw a bit more on it. I have burnt many piles and am still nervous on every one. The thing we have going for use though though is we both have equipment, so if the fire starts getting bigger than we like, we can throw a little dirt on it to slow it down.
Great points, Joey. I can't really get water down to that site easily, but I can always use dirt to keep the fire in check. Thanks for watching, my friend!
I always enjoy watching you do grapple work and thank for the tips. I think lots of practice comes into this too. We need to get into this grapple action, we have a compact tractor with the third function. The size of your burn pile looks fine, we have started with much bigger piles. The only issue might be how close it is to your trees and wind strengh.
Hey Joseph! Yep, you need a grapple! I'm mostly concerned with the wind we get here, especially down where the pile is. I'll figure it out. :) Thanks for watching!
I love that grapple! I also like the magnetic hood camera mount! I have one too but it would scratch the heck out of my hood. You must have got a rubber coated one or something!
Great vid as usual! Thanks for posting and have a great week!
Hi Derk! Thanks so much :) Yes these magnetic mounts have a nice rubber base that protects the finish but they still grab like crazy. I get mine from BHPhoto for about $12 each. Thanks for watching, buddy!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors Nice! Will be getting a couple of them thank you!
@@WichhartAcres You're welcome! :)
Nice video David 👍 You can burn a little at a time with the awesome grapple it would not take long to separate the pile into smaller ones😁 Have a great week😁👍🚜💨💡
Thanks, Mitch! I think that's how I'm going to do it until I get a little more experience. Have a great day! 😀
If you don’t end up with a grapple sponsorship eventually something is wrong! I’ve never seen someone use a grapple for so many applications. Again your the grapple master!
LOL well that would be cool! Honestly, that grapple is such a necessity for me I don't know how I'd get along without it. I can't imagine how long all this work I've done so far would have taken without my grapple! Thank, Ben! I appreciate it, buddy. :)
Hey David, another great video 👍 I think that pile is just fine to burn 🔥. Personally I would add a little more to it but I like big fires. 😀 You're in a good open area away from other trees and nice green grass as a buffer, so no real worries about it getting out of hand. Keep up the great work. Take care buddy . 👋
Hey Kyle! Thank you very much, bud. I've gotten a lot of good tips and thoughts from you guys about the brush pile today. I appreciate it my friend! I see you have a new logo, too!
Good job David. Jealous of your grapple! Cancelled mine when I ordered tractor due to supply issues, and bought wood chipper instead which was on showroom floor. May get grapple someday so thanks for the grapple tips!
Oh man, I know how you must have felt! I waited 4 months for my tractor because of the grapple. I'm glad I waited though. I'm trying to get rid of my chipper now though, LOL. Thanks buddy!
Enjoyed the video. 👍
I have a 2018 Kubota L2501 with the same grapple you have. It and the 3rd function added about 3k to the purchase price at the time. A little pricey in a way, but WELL worth the additional cost.
I agree 100% Joseph! You get way more back in utility than you pay out in money. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
Nice video David, definitely a hard technique to get a hang of LOL!!
Hey Jack! Thanks for watching! :)
looks like you have a good start David. Later
Hey Mech! I haven't seen you in a while. I hope you're doing well. Thanks for taking a look, buddy!
You can burn with the wind on the leeward side of the pile so it does not catch all in one shot....It burns a little at the time.... You can do a lot of jobs with that rack....handy to have for sure....CHEERS
Hey Gator! Thanks a real good tip if burning with some wind. Thanks for the suggestion! Yes sir, it's the most handy attachment I have! :)
Another good video as always David.
QUESTION: Around the 2:05-2:13 mark...is the pan right something you did in post? I like it, just not sure how else you might have done it! Have a great week!
Thank you, Chris! No sir, that was done internally by the camera. The stabilization on it was just trying to catch up! Thanks for watching, buddy!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors Ah, the ol' camera stabilization trick...I should have known! Thanks!!
Great tips on other uses for the grapple David, you definitely know how to use it 👍🏻. As for the burn pile, I find it a bit close to the other conifer trees 😳 but could be because of the camera angle 🤷🏼♂️. Have a great week my friend 🙋🏼♂️🙂👍🏻. Just curious David, when do you usually start seeing buds in your trees? Thanks
Hey Luc! Thank you sir. :) This is our second spring (almost) here so hard to tell when the buds typically start to show. A year ago this week we had 14" of snow on the ground. This year we've had a week of sun and 50f-60f temperatures. I can tell you this - things are beginning to bud now and the grass is starting to grow. Thanks for watching, my friend :)
I've gotten by without a grapple for years but sometimes I want to move piles of brush and logs long distances around our farm--and moving with my mini-excavator isn't practical. So I priced a grapple and a 3rd function for my Kubota L3901 yesterday and got some sticker shock. Wow. So I put it on my wish list, but I think a dump trailer is a higher priority! Is the fence built?
Yes they are expensive and the cost of the 3rd function valve doesn't help. I got my grapple at the time of purchase (at 0% interest) so I haven't really felt it. But even so, I could not have done anywhere near the amount of work I've done so far without the grapple. As I get older and more broken from military service, I see that this is the attachment that's going to let me work longer. I need a trailer also, so that's on my wish list! Thanks for watching, friend!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors I agree on "smarter not harder". We just did 700' of fence (videos out soon) and I felt it differently than the 900" we did just 2 years ago. Retired Air Force here....now working for the Navy. Take care. Brad
Thank you for your service, Brad! When I got out of the Army I went to work for a company in Fairfax, VA making training materials for all branches of the military. Luckily I get to work from home for that so we live on the other side of the US. I'm 54 now and needing the equipment more and more! Have a great day!
How far are you from Kent,WA? I’ve spent some time there. I would fly into Seatec, , spend 1-2 days in Seattle area, drive to Vancouver BC and fly home from there. All on business. Great video.
Hey Scott! Kent is about 50 miles as the crow flies. It's about an hour drive time going down around Puget Sound and up I-5. Let me know if you're over this way again!
How do you like the 3rd function buttons facing the front? I have the Kubota OEM 3rd function and joystick buttons installed facing me. I find it hard to differentiate the two buttons with gloves. Also, I believe my buttons are smaller.
I love them on the front. It makes the most sense to me to have them there and gloves are no problem at all. I don't know if mine is Kubota or 3rd party, but I've seen this one on other videos too. Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it! - David
How did you mount your ammo box to ROPS? Tks great Video.
Thank you, Robin! I got a mount made for the B2601. The story of that and the install is in this video I made: ruclips.net/video/It87-9n3mDU/видео.html
Nice video David! I’ve been meaning to ask you (and it might make a good video!!) . . . what is the story behind your channel name?
Stay safe out there!
Hey Sam! Well it's a long story but here's the short version. It's a line from a screenplay that I wrote a few years ago. We named the production company Pale Horse Films when we produced the script. So when I was trying to think of a name for this channel it just sounded right for me. Thanks for asking and watching! :)
Boy David, do I ever kick myself for not getting a grapple. I keep saying next year. Well this is next year from last year when I sad that. The well took priority this year band still may. Still looking at $15,000 -$20,000 to fix it right. The grapple has waited this long. may have to wait 1 more year.
The grapple is sure worth every penny my friend! I hope you get yours very soon! Thank you for watching and your support!! I hope you and the missus have a wonderful night!
@@PaleHorseOutdoors , you too David. No message yet. I will check again in the morning.
That's so weird. I've been getting emails all day. Look me up on Facebook if you're on there.
@@PaleHorseOutdoors . I have thought about ding something similar to what Mitch from MJA Doing Stuff did. also a copy somewhat of Logans from Fabbed Fun Masseysaurus. I have the John Deere 520 with the loader and dirt blade on the bucket. That tractor will out lift the Kubota badly. it isn't even close. I have seen my Dad lift a 16 ft long green red oak log up onto a flatbed truck bed. Many times. My Kubota wouldn't lift half of those logs. I wouldn't want to push it that hard any way.
I use the 520 to lift logs up off of the ground and then cut from each end until I reach the loader. It would be safer with a grapple attachment to pinch the log to the loader and keep it from coming off and squashing me like a cockroach.
@@tractortalkwithgary1271 I'm still "grappling" with the best way for me to buck wood. As you say, the grapple would get it up waist high and pinch the logs down while bucking. My biggest issue is getting the logs off the ground in the first place without having to use the tractor so much for that. I'm also considering a large bucking table, but since I don't want that in the middle of the meadow down there, I'd have to build it up by the shop and move all the logs there. There are lots of options to consider, I just have to keep from making my joints and back worse!