Space Shuttle Columbia Disaster Pt 3: The aftermath - BBC
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2010
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Part three of six. Former Mission Controller Jim Oberg is interviewed for the moving BBC documentary The Last Flight of the Columbia which looks at the space shuttle disaster and its aftermath. Watch more high quality videos on the new BBC Worldwide RUclips channel here: / bbcworldwide
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I appreciate the protocol that the mission control chief adopted after the loss. He says lock the doors and no outside contact. I can't even imagine the seriousness of the situation.
I'm pretty sure that is / was standard NASA protocol at the time after an accident of this type. So I think he was just following the protocol, as he should.
They did the same during Challenger. Isolate the room, secure the data, and keep outside contamination of data.
Correct. You can look up the NASA contingency procedure and this is part of it - Locking down all buildings and an effective declaration of "hands-off" for all non-essential personnel until they've pulled the tapes on all data available for the incident.
RIP to those 7 brave hearts....
They arent heroes. They do a job for a lot of money, a job that wastes tax payer money.
Jerrod Draper your knowledge of what they do is inadequate.
@@brentdraper4382 Like military and wars?
@ oooookaaaaay......so a cop who saves a school isn't a hero because he's "on the clock"?!
Gimme a break, lol🤣😂
@ It's alright to have an ideals, but those are just ideals. IRL even "heroes" has to pay their bills. Or do you think that they have to do noble things until they run out of money to go on with their daily life and died as homeless person?
The most annoying parts about both major Shuttle disasters is that both faults were known beforehand and either ignored or deemed not significant enough to cause an error on this scale.
Money saving!
People die every day because of money
Kalpana Chawla- we are all so proud of her, the entire nation was waiting for her return, but seeing the entire space shuttle just burn and never able to reach earth on the television tore everyone apart. She had a passion for space exploration. I believe it was the same with all the other astronauts too, there must have been so many promises they would have made to so many people but went unfulfilled. Being an astronaut isn't easy but still they put all their heart into their work.
I attended the University of Texas at Arlington studying mechanical engineering during the same time she was there earning her masters in Aeronautical Engineering. Given that the ME and AE offices and classrooms were clustered together in the same part of the Engineering Building, what are the chances she and I may have crossed paths? I find it to be sad irony indeed that the Space Shuttle Columbia broke apart and burned up over the Dallas-Fort Worth area, meaning it would have been in full sight of the UT-Arlington campus. I have often wondered how many students that day were looking skyward, thinking there goes one of OURS with a sense of pride and admiration, only to see that tragedy unfold. Sorry for the loss of your country's hero daughter.
@@nobodyknows3180thanks for sharing this information sir , I am from india and live in the same town where Kalpana Chawla lived , she is hero our hero . Everybody in knows her . Can you tell us what was she like ? Is there any conversation do you remember? If you have time then please share with us . I really feel very emotional whenever I think about her . I am 21 years old and she is like my big sister .
The existence of flat-earthers is simply the biggest disgrace to the sacrifice these astronauts have made for the sake of humanity.
lol their proofs are just dumb
Your indoctrination is starting to show... 🤪
@@ya-cy6mc
Level water is dumb...? 🤔
@The SNES Man
BREAKING NEWS...
JESUS CHRIST IS A FLAT EARTHER.
flat earthers are just attention seekers who have found a group of equally low IQ people and feel pleased when their simple minded friends listens to their stupid theories as for most of them nobody used to take them seriously or listen to their idiotic talks earlier but now they have a platform which we are supporting by debating with them or by just paying any attention to their words , so just ignore them as their friends and family used to do before they became flat earthers....
Finally RUclips recommended me part 3. Still waiting for part 1 to be recommended!!
just type in ' space shuttle columbia disaster pt 1 ' and all the parts will show up....why do you wait for youtube to recommend it when you can find it yourself?
@@raintree3383 where's the fun in that?. I'm just trying to understand how the RUclips algorithm thinks!
The biggest human permanent error, IS to expect no errors from humans !
on that day, its a wake up call that theres always be human errors no matter how careful we are
Exactly!
Dumb comment. nobody assumed there would be no errors. Actually calculated that it could error
Sid Sed what about Chernobyl
ERRORCEPTION!
The Challenger in January, 1986 is another one I will never forget, either. I barely spoke English then, but that was one situation that proved to me: 'a picture is worth a thousand words'
Or 1986 April was Also a human and state failure
ChotiChica your English is very good now! Where are you from?
There's a Netflix documentary about them right now. I just finished it and I cried.
@@angiecole09 my daughter decided to watch that one with me and now I cant push her to take any flight 🤦♀️
I'll never forget it. I was a teacher at a military school in Alabama, and one of my students came running in (it was my planning period) to tell me that the Shuttle just went "boom". He happened to be Hispanic. He spoke great English but it failed him then as words fail us in such moments. I was incredulous and asked, well, didn't it just do an emergency landing? No, it went boom! By the time our class met 30 minutes later, the realization had sunk in. We talked about it a bit and about the inherent danger. This is part of what it means to be alive and to be pushing the envelope. It was sad, but everyone understood it. President Reagan's words later in the day were inspirational too.
I remember being exceedingly frustrated, at the time, at NASA's failure to do more about the tiles while the shuttle was still in orbit. It was talked about for days, whether it could be replaced, whether to get more imaging of it. I had no idea, at the time, that Linda Ham had blocked the one thing that would have saved it.
ruclips.net/video/lfgJATkRjgs/видео.html
I thought the astronauts could repair with a space walk but apparently this was not an option. Neither, could there be a rescue shuttle sent up.
@@carljan57 Then they could have told the people who were taking the risk that it was being taken for them
Thought the algorithm would give me part 3 after 10 years from when i got part 2..
Got it the same damn day only!
Yea same but when is part 1 coming
I still haven't seen part 1. 😂
Both shuttle accidents were avoidable. The o ring failure on Challenger was predicted for that flight but NASA refused to listen to the manufacturer and coerced the company into giving their approval for the flight.
On Columbia, the foam strike was known by day two and NASA had plenty of time to evaluate the damage, but refused. The flight director knew about the problem and appears to be concerned about reentry, well before any problems were reported. Terrible loss of wonderful people.
@Catherine H. Yes but NASA didn't think there was anyway to help so they chose not to tell the astronauts about the impending problem
So nada murdered them got it
No. The strike was known immediately, and so its implications. Nothing was done to try to save the crew. That was the decision that was pushed through.
@@Ultorvindex They had foam strikes before with no problems. This one was different.
The fact that they were making jokes and having a good time during the re entry not knowing that death was waiting just makes it more tough to watch
This is one memory that is forever etched in my mind. Made me vary sad to see this as a kid!
I still remember never being interested in space travel as a kid. And then the news of Kalpana Chawla's death in the Columbia disaster reached my school and I remember being stunned. Got home and my family sat in silence infront of the TV just watching, as if we could will them all to come back home alive and safe. For the longest time, I wanted to to be an astronaut just like Kalpana. She became my hero. I found my passion in another field but I'm still grateful for her sacrifice.
this really had an inpact on me!because i was over there when columbia took off and then when i was at home in the uk i watched it on the news when it exploded ! RIP all those who died onboard columbia
I was quite young that time but I remember watching that bcz it was the 1st time a woman related to India (I won't call her Indian bcz she was American citizen but yeahh born in India) had gone to space so it was being shown on Indian news channels....my mom always encouraged me to see talented women so that I'll be inspired from them...I was watching it and then the bad news came....I was a kid but that remain etched in my mind forever
ZoomZip literally what she wrote my guy
@@ZoomZip That's what she said .
@@ZoomZip she was all the way indian not an iota american. There. Do what you can do about that you insecure american.
@@ZoomZip can't read immaright😉
Respect that woman by respecting her proper nationality u dimwit
Years came and went,
the world changed
a thousand ways.
World changed?
We will never forget them!! God bless there families
May their souls Rest In Peace ☮️
Imagine when we have our first mission to Mars. Imagine the crew during that landing.
Gonna take more than 10 years to get to mars
Jammy no it doesnˋt
They’re going to be a wreck because they have the “7 minutes of terror” where it takes 7 minutes for coms to travel from mars to earth so if they have a problem it would take 14 minutes total for the crew to get a answer.
It's time. Can't wait to see what happens!
@@ishashelare lol they aren't going to mars yet lmao!!!
A rescue mission was possible, unfortunately. Incredibly dangerous, but possible. And I’m positive there would’ve been some astronauts who were willing to carry out that mission and risk their lives. Because at least then, while loss of life would’ve been greater, it would’ve had a purpose. This...this was just senseless.
This is just devastating.. I am just a woman from Ireland.. I was a teenager when this happened..watching this makes me so emotional a i empathise with all imvolved but mainly family members ..I am sorry😟
7 angels getting to look after our universe 🥺🕊❤️
I remember this, it woke me up out of bed, because my house shook.
I was born in 1987 so the September 11th attacks and this were two defining moments in my youth. It's as if the world changed after those from the really buoyant 1990's I remember to a more cautious time.
I remember this in the morning we felt like a small boom and the house shook
+Messi Barca Are u sure it wasn't someone farting in your house???
+damiion666 NASA tested it in the lab and found that it was farts that caused his house to shake.
lol
I wonder what the mission was... silly me , as if we would know?
Man, this was so crazy.
This still break my soul every time i see this video
First the 7 crew members in 1986 with the Challenger now 17 yrs later in 2003 the 7 crew of Columbia that's crazy, sad and hate to say coincidence rip 🙏🏾to those that lost their lives😢...btw I came here after watching netflix series Challenger: The Final Flight🚀
0:40 I like this guy, u can tell he cared THAT extra amount.
Im sorry sir but people make mistakes. At the same time I understand your anger. Sir you have every right to be angry.
Mihaela Hatch It’s not “people make mistakes” when it comes to this. People make mistakes, but that’s why there’s very clear cut protocol to prevent any catastrophic events due to human error. This was a blatant oversight that got people killed.
Michaela hatch seriously a mistake? NASA had been warned over & over about foam.strikes they done nothing about to make it safer so eh no it wasnt a mistake it was greed & stupidity on NASA part plain & simple. This could have should have been avoided period
@aimhigh59 tiles or panels all I did was got the two mixed up I saw the liftoff damage clip you just pretty much summed up the entire video of what I already just saw on nova, GOOD JOB!!
As long as NASA used the foam insulation on the main tank, there was going to be trouble. Instead of changing the type of insulation used so that it wouldn't break off and fall on the Orbiter (shuttle), NASA left the danger in place. It was a piece of that insulation that broke off during launch that punched a hole in the left wing of Columbia.
For there to be people at NASA that don't understand the importance of their job that led to the failure of the mission and the lost of life is a failure.
RIP
2024 re watching 😢. It's still horrific to watch all over again 😢 So sad.
That was a very sad day.
May God bless their Brave souls.
God has shit to do with this mess good fucking bye stupid ass👅👅👅
So tragic... but there really wasn't a "mystery", there was yet another instance of management refusal to act on evidence of a problem until... people died.
Wish I had seen part one
Kalpana Chawla one of the American Indian Astronaut that even today somewhat continues to motivate women to work for the science space world. She's an inspiration to women who dream of working with NASA.
So so sad that another shuttle and crew were lost. I pray for the victim's families.
The shuttle was not safe . They did not even have a thought what if crucial thermal tiles were breached? There were some tile damages in previous missions too. They did not develop a way to inspect the tiles or repair them. If tiles were irreparable what should they do to save the crew? They went with mindset , nothing happened before so nothing would happen in future. They were compromising safety just to keep with schedules and budget requirements. Finally it had to happen unfortunately. If not for columbia , for next shuttle missions . RIP. It's so sad for crew to die helplessly.
You do know this accident had nothing to do with tiles, right? And your wrong about repairing damaged or missing tiles. They carried from day one a goopy substance to fill cavities and fill in damaged tiles. I forget the name of it.
My recollection is that it did have to do with damaged tiles. Of course.
The tiles were inspected before every flight, that took the most time, they checked the one by one
Jessy The tiles had something to do with it... however after the tile came loose in mid flight and hit the left wing causing an open hole...this was why the shuttle broke apart during re-entry.
@@timsolis4706 I agree.....also just my personal opinion, I think that the crew had an inclination that they might not have survived re-entry. Again just my own opinion. They were aware of the foam striking the left wing according to my own research, however I dont know 100%. God have mercy on their souls.
Is there a complete version of this documentary?
ruclips.net/video/OOBRbE7VVjg/видео.html
@@nanamae4520 thank you
And ? The answers gone...
They should have waited until everything was 100% before the launch. RIP you brave people
@seploud They weren't in space though, they just entered the atmosphere.
I was a watching this in Highschool my Senior Year
I can't stand all the people down here that would consider themselves lucky to be in control of a ball point pen on a day to day basis trying to say what should've happened, and how the control room should've been handled, I mean my God why are you all so ignorant
LeRoy Cain was the ultimate proffesional despite realising he had lost his friends and collegues during this flight.
Hey! it only took me 1day to get pt3!
No link to the other episodes in the description 😕
Deming said that 95% of failures are system failures that people are subject to. When you spend effort, time, money hiring the top 1%, it’s ridiculous to start pointing fingers at the weakest link. This shouldn’t be about what someone did wrong, but rather, why he did wrong.
That one guy, hot guy, was sobbing.
If the "government" was this accountable, they'd all be fired lol.
Rest in pieces colombia
cant imagine being the guy/people who screw up... it must feel horrible, your mistake cost 7 lives...
America has lost a total of 17 astronauts in total of the space missions. May they all be Remembered and RIP as Great Heroes to the World. Fair Winds & Following Seas. 🙏🌷🌻⚘️🌟💔
@seploud Yeah. I'm more than willing to sacrifice my life for a visit to space though...
They should have created the cockpit in such a way that it breaks off with all the crew members inside from the rest of the plane and comes back to earth safely.
Are you just suggesting it knowing that’s what spacex have created or do you genuinely think this is your own idea?
One of the problems with the Space Shuttle, is that it was a top down design, a bottom up design would have factored in all the safety issues, and designed a vehicle around those accordingly.
Retrofitting a vehicle like the Shuttle would have been a hugely costly, not to mention a highly technically challenging undertaking.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_abort_modes
@JoanCollins2009 I read that they found body parts. There is a vid on RUclips showing the Columbia shedding debris over Arizona, it didn't completely disintegrate until it was over Texas, so I would imagine there were pieces scattered for over hundreds of miles. Interestingly, I read there was some type of worms in a dish on the shuttle as an experiment, the dish was found and the worms survived, I think they were microscopic though.
rip
🙏🙏
0:39 Sometimes its about money and the top dogs want to save a few bucks so cut corners. Those people should be in jail. It's one of the reasons for the Challenger disaster.
I agree with you 100%. No way should the challenger crew been killed. That was pure disregard for those astronauts lives! Morton Thiokol told NASA not to fly! I hope those people who signed off on that launch think about killing those astronauts every day.
RIP😔
See how big of a mess, a small mistake can make...
that is the unfortunate reality of engineering
@telj Same here, I was a child when i first saw this, It was so unsettling
big piece of ice falling off tank, hitting wing; leaves hole big enough to create a 'peel effect' , like a start spot to peel and orange's skin off (if given peeling friction of say re-rentry friction -------------- they probably had a good idea of the pickle they were in days before trying re entry
It was foam insulation that fell off, not ice.
Hey! What happened to there is no I in team?
A Piece of Foam cracked Heat Tiles!.Non repairable in Space!
@seploud They also assumed NASA engineers wouldn't make simple assumptions about foam striking a wing, and would actually obtain a data base (experience) to back up their recommendation.
Wasn’t the error something to do with measures take after the challenger disaster? I remember something vaguely about that
If so it wasn’t the first time that tragedy was partially the cause of a corrective action from a previous incident.
If you remember from Apollo 13. On of the astronaut’s sons had this phobia about the hatch of the command module. This was because of the inwardly hinged hatch of the command module of the Apollo 1 tragedy prevented the rescue of those three men, the commander of which insisted on this change in the design of the hatch due to the embarrassment he suffered when the outwardly hinged hatch of his (Mercury?) capsule blew out, sinking the capsules and losing crucial data collected on that mission
A piece of foam hitting the leading edge of the wing! Actually the shuttle ran into the foam. R.I.P. brave astronauts. 🇺🇲
I don't believe they ever found any bodies completely intact & I don't imagine they would.... Just body parts...
The only human error I can think about is not having a method to inspect the tiles before reentry.
Maybe, thinking the same
Linda Ham has blood on her hands
Alguém assistindo??💮😎☔🌧🧿🌌💕
Columbia was coming apart in reentry should of landed in CA at Edward's Air force base where it first landed in 1981
Not possible. Had they planned a landing at Edwards, the result would have been the same, except the debris would have been in the Pacific ocean.
They ended up blaming Ken Ham’s ex because she had said something stupid. No wonder why she’s his ex
so said
Who?
I still greave for the 7 souls that sacrificed them self for humanity
I hate to make good of bad but at least there were only 2 disasters out of the 135 combined
Shame BBC does not allow comments on their Newsnight channel ...
The Space Shuttle was a mistake. It would've been cheaper and safer to just keep Apollo and Saturn.
The loss of the shuttle represents the end of the dream ! Time to wake up
Awww, that's cute...
The NASA CARTOON NETWORK.
😔🌹
Powerful moments. Why he said lock the doors in the control centre? What difference it made, not sure
Idk that’s why I’m in the comments
it is explained at 1:33
Anyhow woman named Linda ham refused to allow take pictures of damaged left wing from the fallen foam debris. Then she cried that nobody is at fault... Not sure why she wasn't charged for such a huge negligence and such an easily made maneuver just to check everything is all right and the crew is safe to return. They could have been saved by another shuttle. Similar negligence and strange dealings at nasa to challenger disaster and company called morton from Utah winning bid under mormon nasa director from Utah with offering flawed oring design when tho there was a cheaper better offering with no o ring.. not sure why it also wasn't investigated accordingly to charge ppl for potential corruption and conflict of intetest
They lock the doors to protect the data for later investigation.
Those damn UFO’s
For every engineer concern that ended up killing someone, there is likely 10 that didn't.
Poor Kalpana
Strategy???
Bad management????
Or politics??
Still???
Lock the doors. You would think that outside investigators would be called instead of internal.
The investigation comes later. The first step is to secure all of the data.
They lock the doors to secure the data. Then later investigators come in.
Oh god
New friend
0:30 Do you tho?
Is that woman at Colombia?
LOCK THE DOORS NOW!
Kalpana Chawla my Indian sister😓
They haven't tested coming down from orbit. most of test they did was carrying it on the back of airplane and released it. They should not put human in the test for descending from the orbit to the ground. They didn't do that test. Heat destroyed it.
My misinformed friend: The first flight was a test flight. Only two in the shuttle and they were direct NASA employees. John Young and Bob Crippen. The leading edge of a wing was struck by foam from the external tank and damaged the carbon/carbon composite leading edge. That allowed the heat of re-entry to damage the wing to the extent it separated from the shuttle and fractured the hull. The rest should be obvious.
@@MaynardGKrebs-gv4vy My low IQ friend. If you wish no slow down at the entry from orbit because of heat issue, you do not make aerodynamic shape like a jet. It speed up and damage it by the heat from high speed entry. Why do you think they use parachute to slow down? The whole concept is stupid.
@@truthmatters5536 Thank you for proving you are a total fucking moron. Saves me the trouble.
@aimhigh59 how naive calling yourself talented, nice info any can read the wikipedia and come up with this information.
it wasn't humans. a peace of phoam fell of the shuttle
Computer designing?