With its high res thermals and high power KE-W round, this $70 premium is probably the second best german MBT, after the Leopard 2A7V. Kinda sad it's behind a paywall Hope you enjoy the live com :)
Not entirely true, while yes it has better thermals than the 2A5 and 2A6 it also has a worse round and worse armor, also no spall liners (in the turret), so it's very much not P2W or anything. 👍
i have noticed that they have fucked the sounds up this update. Engines are super hard to hear and its hard to hear enemy tanks firing past like 400 meters
I’ve lost track of how many type 90’s have just shown up 20 meters behind me completely silent, it’s so stupid. And hstvl has no engine sound anymore so the rats got more ratty
I disagree. It’s not that great. It’s like the Leo 2PL in most regards, with less turret armor. Most tanks can cleave through you at 11.3-11.7. I can get basically the same experience from the M60 AMBT at 10.0. Great round and thermals, good mobility, trash armor.
Its perfectly fine where it is, as it has Mobility, good gun as DM43 and the KEW round are fine the way they are they still pen relatively easy its just shot placement, otherwise there is no point having a br gap and put them up to the highest br and everthing would just overpen everything not even fun, The fact they have Gen 2 thermal which is night and day compared to Gen 1... the only issue with the tanks is skill and CAS is the bigger problem than this. Also M60 AMBT is not that mobile lol yes for an M60 it is, but you cannot compare it to the Leopard2s as its not the same playstyle, as you can flank better having alot more speed and actually reverse! you can still take more hits still in a leopard 2PL/2A4M.
What I don’t like about this premium is that its turret protection is far worse than what we have on the 2PL, I think I’ll probably wait for a discount for this one
As they should. Just needs more premiums like spaa so ppl can have balanced lineups faster. Sorry but most non premiums at high tier are just as stupid in my experience or have a lineup and ignore spaa and just care about stealing kills for kd
I think with the T90 shot in the breach he seemed to turn just as you fired, not sure if that would of caused issues, I've had it happen on other tanks, on my side I hit the breach but on the hit indicator he had turned his turret at the moment I fired. But as a sound Dev myself there are numerous issues with the audio in the game, Engines being one of the most inconsistent issues.
I have russian tanks on 11.3 and planes on 12.7 so i guess i picked russia when i started because my friend told me they were good. It's just chill to play. You can hold W and half the players don't know the big weakspots for some reason and just bounce then die. (I also have switched to Japan for a while, got them to top tier)
Just came back to the games after some years and picked this up. Didn’t know if it was good or not but I always liked leopards so may as well. Only had american top tier prior and these leopards are much more fun.
Hey Sako, great video as always. Just out of interest, what's your opinion on the CV9035DK now that it is on live? Could you maybe even show it in a video? Also there are almost no videos yet showing gameplay of it
It’s total trash? It’s literally bugged the KE-W does absolutely no damage when it pens it seems I’ve central side hit Abrams and they have literally pivoted and taken me out. It’s armour is paper mache I’ve had machine guns tear up my left side and track. It’s really not very good the OES is honestly better if you play it right
This update is a joke to be perfectly honest. The sound is ruined, damage models are shit and the game is super buggy. Russian tanks have gotten even more broken damage models that has armor that seems harder to pen and shells dont do shit for damage. As usual, russian ammo doesnt detonate when being shot, but its worse now too. Good job Gaijin.
I'm so sick of top tier premiums they are ruining the game. I'm waiting for a Swedish 11.3 to be added to ruin their win rates as well. Germany and Sweden used to rule, now there's an entire 10.0 Swedish lineup of premiums and Germany's top tier is gonna be ruined unless you have a 12.7 jet in your lineup. You'd think they would playtest their new audio but they apparently haven't. Audio is in such a bad place right now and they keep messing up their game. How long is it going to take to increase the ground BR cap a few brackets? It should be at 12.7 at the MINIMUM. Yes, I understand that this sounds like a rant from a bigoted meta-chaser. I am only this mad because I have put too many hours into the game to be complacent whilst Gayjin ruins it.
@@Faded._ bro don't seem to realise meta chasing just means eventually the playerbade would stick to one or nations and every match would be russia vs sweden lol
At least it still has the 2A4 gunner sight weakspot so you actually have a chance to pen it when it's hull down unlike the 2a5/6/7. Also lol I love how he complains about everything and blames his team. LMAO REVENGE BOMBING TOO!
you can shoot it anywhere on the turret even when it's hull-down... This thing has no armor whatsoever, 450+ pen rounds can go through the thickest part of this tank
@@adamberes1246 interesting, I thought the cheek wedges were like on the 2a5/6/7 where it makes the turret absurdly strong. I've honestly never had to shoot a 2a4m in the turret yet. I haven't even encountered them that often either but when I do I usually get a clean shot at their hull.
@@SAKOSNIPER would I have a better time/more fun with the panzer battalion ,does that 1.0 high battle rating make a difference (I main air so I don’t really know) and thank you for Replying
@@crusadr1099 it's hard to say. 10.3 is lower BR, but gets uptiered a lot to 11.3 I'd say the 2A4M is better if you're a good player, as it has a solid round and thermals
I don't get why people say this is such a good tank.. Comparatively the Clickbait outperforms this thing in most aspects... This is basically a leo2a4 with KE-W and more weight and gen 2 thermals, but it still doesn't justify the 11.3 in my opinion... Every time I see it I kill it without no problem
Well yes, they need to make money, but we also should call them out on their predatory ways of getting said money that reduces the quality of the game for us
With its high res thermals and high power KE-W round, this $70 premium is probably the second best german MBT, after the Leopard 2A7V. Kinda sad it's behind a paywall
Hope you enjoy the live com :)
Not entirely true, while yes it has better thermals than the 2A5 and 2A6 it also has a worse round and worse armor, also no spall liners (in the turret), so it's very much not P2W or anything. 👍
@@MatteonixITA I'm pretty sure it should have spall liners and so should the 2PL
The wedge armor sucks unfortunately
Mate it’s so mid🤣can’t take any hits and it’s KE-W is bugged
@@aguy607 How is KE-W bugged?
i have noticed that they have fucked the sounds up this update. Engines are super hard to hear and its hard to hear enemy tanks firing past like 400 meters
I’ve lost track of how many type 90’s have just shown up 20 meters behind me completely silent, it’s so stupid. And hstvl has no engine sound anymore so the rats got more ratty
I disagree. It’s not that great. It’s like the Leo 2PL in most regards, with less turret armor. Most tanks can cleave through you at 11.3-11.7.
I can get basically the same experience from the M60 AMBT at 10.0. Great round and thermals, good mobility, trash armor.
Its perfectly fine where it is, as it has Mobility, good gun as DM43 and the KEW round are fine the way they are they still pen relatively easy its just shot placement, otherwise there is no point having a br gap and put them up to the highest br and everthing would just overpen everything not even fun, The fact they have Gen 2 thermal which is night and day compared to Gen 1... the only issue with the tanks is skill and CAS is the bigger problem than this.
Also M60 AMBT is not that mobile lol yes for an M60 it is, but you cannot compare it to the Leopard2s as its not the same playstyle, as you can flank better having alot more speed and actually reverse! you can still take more hits still in a leopard 2PL/2A4M.
What I don’t like about this premium is that its turret protection is far worse than what we have on the 2PL, I think I’ll probably wait for a discount for this one
Gaijin:"grinding has to be slow so people can progress with skill over time"
Also gaijin: drops top tier for everyone to buy.
As they should. Just needs more premiums like spaa so ppl can have balanced lineups faster. Sorry but most non premiums at high tier are just as stupid in my experience or have a lineup and ignore spaa and just care about stealing kills for kd
@7:48 lol that's why I rarely capture unless I'm surrounded by teammates
Hello Sako hope you’re having a good one
You too!
I think with the T90 shot in the breach he seemed to turn just as you fired, not sure if that would of caused issues, I've had it happen on other tanks, on my side I hit the breach but on the hit indicator he had turned his turret at the moment I fired. But as a sound Dev myself there are numerous issues with the audio in the game, Engines being one of the most inconsistent issues.
I genuinely wonder why people enjoy playing Russian tanks when they are like this in the game.
I have russian tanks on 11.3 and planes on 12.7 so i guess i picked russia when i started because my friend told me they were good. It's just chill to play. You can hold W and half the players don't know the big weakspots for some reason and just bounce then die. (I also have switched to Japan for a while, got them to top tier)
Just came back to the games after some years and picked this up. Didn’t know if it was good or not but I always liked leopards so may as well. Only had american top tier prior and these leopards are much more fun.
All these top YT players are waffling.
It’s bugged and crap imo
Hey Sako, great video as always. Just out of interest, what's your opinion on the CV9035DK now that it is on live? Could you maybe even show it in a video? Also there are almost no videos yet showing gameplay of it
It’s pretty lacklustre which is why there aren’t many videos on it
1:35 thats exactly why I play arcade. Air gets immediately taken out since people spawn aa at the start of a game
It’s total trash?
It’s literally bugged the KE-W does absolutely no damage when it pens it seems I’ve central side hit Abrams and they have literally pivoted and taken me out.
It’s armour is paper mache I’ve had machine guns tear up my left side and track.
It’s really not very good the OES is honestly better if you play it right
This update is a joke to be perfectly honest. The sound is ruined, damage models are shit and the game is super buggy. Russian tanks have gotten even more broken damage models that has armor that seems harder to pen and shells dont do shit for damage. As usual, russian ammo doesnt detonate when being shot, but its worse now too. Good job Gaijin.
the sound is so bad idk why they changed it
they also broken sound mods
I think you mean every update
I'm so sick of top tier premiums they are ruining the game. I'm waiting for a Swedish 11.3 to be added to ruin their win rates as well. Germany and Sweden used to rule, now there's an entire 10.0 Swedish lineup of premiums and Germany's top tier is gonna be ruined unless you have a 12.7 jet in your lineup. You'd think they would playtest their new audio but they apparently haven't. Audio is in such a bad place right now and they keep messing up their game. How long is it going to take to increase the ground BR cap a few brackets? It should be at 12.7 at the MINIMUM. Yes, I understand that this sounds like a rant from a bigoted meta-chaser. I am only this mad because I have put too many hours into the game to be complacent whilst Gayjin ruins it.
Honestly this tank is amazing at 11.3 the sabot round penetrated everything.
idk what they did this update but the audio changes are so bad
Bro doesn't even care about the longevity of the game he just wants whatever nation he mains to be meta
@@Faded._ ikr lol 😂 I used to main USA but they nerfed it so I switched to Russia then Germany
@@Faded._ bro don't seem to realise meta chasing just means eventually the playerbade would stick to one or nations and every match would be russia vs sweden lol
At least it still has the 2A4 gunner sight weakspot so you actually have a chance to pen it when it's hull down unlike the 2a5/6/7.
Also lol I love how he complains about everything and blames his team. LMAO REVENGE BOMBING TOO!
you can shoot it anywhere on the turret even when it's hull-down... This thing has no armor whatsoever, 450+ pen rounds can go through the thickest part of this tank
@@adamberes1246 interesting, I thought the cheek wedges were like on the 2a5/6/7 where it makes the turret absurdly strong. I've honestly never had to shoot a 2a4m in the turret yet. I haven't even encountered them that often either but when I do I usually get a clean shot at their hull.
Should I take the panzer battalion over this ?
If you have neither, I'd buy the Leo 2A4M
If you already have the pzbtl 123, I'd just try and make it work until there's a sale
@@SAKOSNIPER would I have a better time/more fun with the panzer battalion ,does that 1.0 high battle rating make a difference (I main air so I don’t really know) and thank you for Replying
@@crusadr1099 it's hard to say. 10.3 is lower BR, but gets uptiered a lot to 11.3
I'd say the 2A4M is better if you're a good player, as it has a solid round and thermals
Thank you so much for your help mate 🙏
Thanks for the honest conclusion. 🍻
Well its still a Top Tier Leopard without spall liner, not the greatest.
Plus turret armor is shit unless u get full down tiers
@@45atanner I would get the PL if you havent already the PL is based on the 2A5 armor instead of the 2A4.
Top teir in a nut shell get killed by a su25
I don't get why people say this is such a good tank.. Comparatively the Clickbait outperforms this thing in most aspects... This is basically a leo2a4 with KE-W and more weight and gen 2 thermals, but it still doesn't justify the 11.3 in my opinion... Every time I see it I kill it without no problem
Should be 11. M1a1 should be 10.7
Kharkiv, not Kharkov
We don't do top tier premiums tho. I fuckin hate this update
Gaijin unironically justifies it with them being 11.3 and not .7, even though it effectively is top-tier that way
Gen 3
I mean why do yall cry 😂 yes they will keep adding more and more. It's a free to play game so they gotta make money
Well yes, they need to make money, but we also should call them out on their predatory ways of getting said money that reduces the quality of the game for us
For a person with a full time job & a social life, I'd rather spent 30 bucks on a premium than spent all my free time grinding stock tanks.😐
@@LenaZeneki and all yall doing is wasting your breath lol
UE is menace ot society, if you know what are you doing