As Jean Bob pointed out in the comments I was wrong with ignites damage stacking up after the first tick of ignite. Pay no attention to the understanding ignite part as I obviously don't understand it well enough myself. I apologize for misinforming you guys but it is important to realize that this is only my take on it and I'm glad that someone pointed my bullshit out. I stand with every other part of the video though and I do believe it's useful information.
I don't know what's so confusing with ignite. It's pretty simple. You crit a 10,000 fireball, it rolls a 4,000 dot in 2 intervals, so 2,000 + 2,000. If first one ticks and then you land another 10,000 fireball the remaining 2,000 tick is added to the next ignite, giving you an 6,000 ignite. If you crit before the first tick then the new ignite will be 8,000.
Tysm! I’m a rouge/priest main and just got to lvl 80 with my first high level mage. I just started doing dungeons and really gearing up. I had a higher gear score than some but was lacking in damage as a fire mage. This helps a lot. About to do my first dungeon with these tips. Wish me luck 👋 Edit: I wasn’t behind in damage anymore! It wasn’t anything but techniques! Much appreciation sent your way!!! 😁
Hi, Good guide, Just a point about the potion you are using, to my point of view speed potion almost ever beat the wild magic potion And another point about evocation : on LoD if you are using well your mana regeneration tools. I mean your 3 mana gems and a mana injector instead of a "dps" potion such as speed. You actually gain dps by delaying the moment you need to evocate to the moment you entering the FM chamber About playing at long range it is a good way to both : 1/ avoid your teammates by putting harmfull aoe on the area you are playing 2/ maximize your LB uptime by being able to refresh it and throw your pyro before your FB hit the boss and potentialy proc a new hotstreak Tiny
Hi, speed pot doesn't make too much sense to me but you're right about evo and playing at range. If I'm in group 5 with the priest and the shaman I don't need to evocate sometimes. P.S. I saw your LK kill and those are some impressive numbers!
@@Kruzics Yeah if the group is not really strong (in terms of dps) it's hard to reach FM chamber w/o evocate w/o being in the grp5 ^^ I just wanted to pointing out the missunderstood powerness of the mana injectors, lot of people feel that because they are dps they must have to go for speed or wild magic, even if at the end it whould have stronger to got more mana back and do not have to evocate. About speed potion, if you do quick and dirty maths, you will got that using speed potion approximatly give you between 0.6 and 1 more FB cast out of the 15sec of the potion. For wild magic potion it give you 200 crit (4.35%) and 200 spell power : you will cast between 5 and 7 FB in 15sec, 1 LB and between 1 and 4 Pyro, let take the best world where you got 5 FB +4 Pyro +1 LB FB spell coef under empowered fire : 115% Pyro : 130% LB : 20% per tick (you will have 5 ticks approximatly) LB : explosion : 42.86% So you have : 5*115%*200 + 4*130%*200 + 5*20%*200 + 42.86%*200 It's equal to 2 475.72 additionnal damage, even if we count that damage as crit (2475.72*150% = 3713.58) and with ignite (100%+40%)*3713.58 = 5 199.012 This is still lower than 0.6* a non-crit FB (non-crti FB w/o proc is aroung 9k) 9*0.6 = 5.4K and this is on the worst case scenario you can be and it mean you are not even synchronising your potion with your procs/images ^^ Sorry fot the long comment but i was in your spot before and a friend of mine was in my current shoes and before he actually prove me wrong, i didn't believed him that speed > wild magic. (I saw some of you other video i enjoyed it ! even if idk where i am standing between painfull elitist ass and dum skada psyco xD)
@@tinyballpov5567 You make a good point but I still believe nothing is better than a wild magic pot during heroism if nothing else. I'll give it a shot next time I take my mage to a raid though to test it out. I'd honestly love nothing more than a definitive guide on our class which I hope I'll make one day together with some of the best mages on the server, I'll invite you to the discussions when that comes to be :D
Nice guide, Gnev. I see you put a lot of effort in this videos, thank you for being awesome. I hope you do other cool guides aswell, like fury warr for example
I struggle to understand your take on Ignite Stacking high ignite damage does not increase your overall ignite damage; it's just funnier, fancier. Ignite rolling has been fixed for quite some time on Warmane. You can see ignite as a bank of damage for each target. When you crit, you add 0.4*crit_dmg to the bank, and for first ignite tick you divide bank by two, second ignite tick you deplete completely the damage bank (since the debuff disappears). With this rule it's pretty easy to code it in a weakaura and you see that there's no ignite bug. Looking at the example you are giving at 9:52: - Your first scorch deals 3990 critical damage and Ignite ticks for 798*2 = 1596. 1596/3990 = 0.4. - On the second test you do 2 crit scorches dealing 4588 and 4514 damage. Ignite deals 1819*2 = 3638 dmg. And 3638/(4588+4514) = 0.4. Therefore there is no difference in overall damage for Ignite if you do multiple crit in a row or if you spread them in time. You can see that as: your crit deals 280% damage instead of 200%. Only way to deal something else from this 40% of crit damage, is if you deal no damage because target dies with a high damage bank. Second part of my confusion is at 10:15 If someone launch a tennis ball towards you every 1.5 second, it doesn't matter if you are 5, 20 or a 100 meters apart, you will still receive the ball every 1.5 second. (I hope you understand the comparison) So you can see that if you are 40 yards away or melee range, if you cast only fireball with 1.5 cast-time, then fireball will hit the boss every 1.5 seconds. Hence I don't understand what is your "sweet spot" for Ignite, maybe for other reasons like reacting to Hot Streak or idk but for Ignite it doesn't matter. Again, if I misunderstood, correct me but I watched this part 15 times to be sure so it might be unclear on your side. Rest of the video is nice. Any tips on Invisibility, Fire Blast, Handling threat ?
I fucked up with the video showing the ignites damage. What I meant was there are 2 ticks, try criting with your first scorch, waiting for the first tick to do off then criting again, while ignite is still on the target. The first does it's damage but the second tick still adds to the ignite's damage. That's what I meant to say but I fucked up with showing it. And yeah, I should have added handling threat in retrospect but I mostly think of everything I forgot to add after recording the audio :D
@@Kruzics I just tried what you did which is: 1 Crit Scorch, wait for 1st tick of Ignite, 2 Crit Scorch, wait for the 2 ticks of ignite and the result are: - 1st crit scorch: 5343 dmg (0.4*5343=2137 dmg added to the damage bank) - 1 ignite tick: 1068 dmg (1068 = 2137/2 = half the bank, so nothing out of the ordinary so far. Only 1068 dmg left in the bank) - 2nd crit scorch: 4840 dmg (0.4*4840=1936 dmg added to the bank. Hence we have 1936+1068 = 3004 dmg in the bank left) - 1st ignite tick: 1502 dmg (3004/2 = half of the bank. Only 1502 left in the bank) - 2nd ignite tick: 1502 dmg (1502 = all that is left in the bank) So if we look at the total, - we did 5343 + 4840 = 10183 crit damage with our scorch - we did 1502 + 1502 + 1068 = 4072 dmg with ignite And we obviously have 4072 / 10183 = 0.399 = 0.4. The Ignite damage is always 40% of the total crit damage, no matter how crit are spaced. So no I don't think it works either, you should try on a dummy aswell, try to be as precise as i was here, and that should yield same result, which is that there is no more ignite rolling on warmane.
@@jeanbob415 I just tried it out and you're right, I made a mistake, I'll try to pin a comment about it but it is a mistake. Thank you for pointing it out Jean Bob.
distancing is good for getting more ticks so u regen more mana, it doesnt affect dps but it affects mana regen from talents which affects dps, also for combustion I'd say to be at max range to get the most of it before it fades from your last crit. the range talent is definitely important for dps
@@David-hs1bu the ticks from ignite will be the same whether you're close or far away as the main comment stated, the boss will still be getting fireballs every 1.5 seconds (or whatever your cast time is), so ignite will get refreshed at the same rate meaning that you'll get the same mana. Now about combustion, you could only get benefit from that if a fireball takes longer to travel than your cast time, but yeah you don't have to be that close so you can cast pyro before fireball lands.
I rly like the Video! as a 3.3.5 mage Veteran myself i would have addet the correct usage of the tier 10 2 piece bonus (holding heatstreak procs to extend uptime without wasting procs)in the tips and tricks section.
TY, for this great guide. Saved! Have played everything and now jumping into Fire mage - former Arcane. Only problem for me is - I’m kiiiiiinda… bis… but lacking crit trinket (got haste one), and have not wand - got spirit one. But i believe I can run ilvl 245 trinket with crit while right one drops, and I get lucky… same with wand. But yeah - that crit proc is so wanted, and dps for me drops greatly without it😭 But there is some answers I needed to hear! Cheeers
Leveling a class and exploring it during leveling, low level dungeons and world pvp is so crucial to understanding a class and unlocking its full potential.
Tbh this class is far from proper, he is whoring on shamblings with Living bombs(it may boost his dps on overall dmg which doesnt matter, but it sacrifices his dmg on useful targets which matters) and using LB's like that on valkyrs is just wrong, instead of using all of them one after another on valkyrs, if u do it like he is doing LB>FB>LB>FB>LB>FB ur Living bombs on valkyrs wont explode until they fly in the air,and if ur LB explodes while they are in the air its useless dmg so kinda pointless
@@bulvarix3903 ah! Do you think fire mage is worth playing for small complexities or will it get super boring after a while? I need interesting optimizations and rotation to stay interested
Hey I was wondering what talents you should choose first. I’m lvl 20 and am not sure if I should knock out the arcane ones first or a mix of both. Any recommendations?
@@MalibuMoto Lvling as a fire mage is a pain in the ass. DPSing as a fire mage whit shit gear is a pain in the ass too. Fire mages along with Fury warriors are specs that scale HARD and I mean HARD with good gear. So, to your question: Leveling- Frost Fresh 80(rdfs and maybe your first few raids depending on gear)- Arcane, you will do more dps opposed to if you were fire. When you have decent gear- fire.
I don't think you should be telling people to Living Bomb on Keleseth as it does AoE to the nucleus and unless your tank is a madman he wants as many as possible to be up.
Video is really nice and all, but is it me or (Improved) Scorch was never mentioned besides the talent tree having it and yes, I'm aware that warlocks should be able to provide the same debuff?
You're right, I forgot to mention that. Improved shadowbolt has the same effect as scorch but you should use it if you don't have a warlock in the raid!
destruction doesnt provide this buff, they use incinerate not shadowbolt which is another reason why its not great in pve, Affli and Demo use SB but they stop using it at 25% and 35% respectively then you'd be the one who needs to keep scorch up.
Okey so.. Let's talk about the scenario when it comes to GS. When i'm under 2-4 set bonus ICC NM/HC Gear. What is the best specc? Arcane? When do i switch to fire? Can i Go Fire specc all the way until i have good gear?
Maybe a dumb question, but for a Fire Mage (future WOTLK specifically) would a Troll's 20% haste racial out parse a human's 3% Spirit/Crit increase with the Molten Armor buff? Is there a clear winner there or would the two be pretty close? I'm thinking more PVE, but still liking the benefit of human's EMFH racial when needed in PVP situations. DPS output is still my prio though. Great video! thx
If you track your trinket proc in an opener and pop combustion + Berserking + any on use trinket/ engi gloves at the same time then yeah its going to be huge, besides the main selling point of horde racials is the mini burst that lets you get out of difficult phases sooner, which is what harder bosses are all about. this is why on buffed content and on retail Horde became the dominant faction. in cata/mop it gets even worse.
Berserking is indeed incredibly strong and the only real dps boosting option for the Horde, unlike Alliance which is more balanced with racials since gnome and human racial do not have such noticable disparity. If you are Horde, then troll is the clear winner.
Hey great video. I've had a look at your addon video already, but noticed that your Cheese addon shows you a smaller proc/aura when you have 1 crit and are 1 more crit away from a Hot Streak proc. I've downloaded your Cheese addon but it doesn't seem to show the smaller aura when I have 1 out of 2 crits away from a Hot Streak proc. Would be able to explain how you have that extra smaller aura? Is that something you've set up through weakauras or something?
That's a weak aura I got from Merfin. I was unfortunately unable to share it because you gives them out only to his twitch subscribers but you can check him out on twitch.tv/Merfin
-Good morning, how are you? I would like to know how I can put different targets on the right side of the screen, to be able to renew dots, like a live bomb with the mage , saludos desde uruguay !
So it´s first once you are in "full" Ulduar gear you should respec from Arcane to Fire? Also if you go fire before that is it like a lot less dps you do compared to arcane or just a little lower?
I just started on Warman new server thanks for the guide but my arcane spec pre raid is doing more damage than fire and I got my first 2 gear set and idk if I want to go with fire or arcane is it worth going fire from now ?
Привет, очень хотел бы поинтересоваться что у тебя за аддон на портрет персонажа, и используешь ли ты другие текстуры на подобоие как на актуале ? Очень познавательный контент спасибо !
You have some downtime in between casts (not the gcd after instant I mean when you just spam firebolts.) Consider using firebolts on mouse wheel. Spamming a key is inferior
Most of the time you'll pop it at the start but at longer fights it's best to combine with your trinkets. You can make a weak aura to track when your phyla and cts proc
would you go fire from the start of the expansion or do you go arcane at first? If you go arcane at first, how much gear would you need before going fire?
the difference isnt huge if you play fire very well, but you are still behind arcane a little, you need Ulduar 10man gear or naxx25 bis to beat Arcane.
What version of cheese or what addons is the one in the center of the screen that shows you the proc of the pyro and Little proc top for track First of the 2 crits u Need for hotstreak as in cata
First of all you play gnom, not a human because of 5% intellect you get. Check your gear anf you will see how much intelect that is, so that why my mage was usually beating all other mages and then everyone start changing to gnome.
When i see this, it remember me everything. Old times when i played as mage on wotlk :) So many hours spended and .... for nothing. Every expansion means same way - all what i got in previous datadisk is lost and useless and collect new gear, new achievements and new reputation again and again. This is what hold me to get back to the wow. So many months spended by achievements and reputation and gear for good game. No way for me :)
bro.. for AOE best way is stacking living bomb and getting a shit load of ignite on a single target then hit combustion it spreads to all nearby targets. then hit flamestrike
I use it in rare occasions when I really have to move. Other than that fireball will just do much more damage in your rotation as fire blast uses up a global
@@Kruzics exactly at low gear Score you need haste to get back to back crits to proc hot streaks. Thanks for replying. Keep up the good work. You have earned a subscriber:)
hmm man iam gonna reroll. was always a warrior but i came back from a little break of tbc and guess what i cant find a guild spot because nobody wants a warrior (ms). sooo iam gonna reroll with focus on lich king. first i wanna go feral but i read its difficult but very rewarding. on the other side i never played a caster endgame and it looks like fire mage is bickd1ck dps. need help.
isn't human the best race for alliance since 3%spirit racial. molten armor with glyph converts 55% spirit to crit. considering u have a dranai in the group
Hey, know it is a bit late with the reply. Gnome provides 0.4% more crit than Human with bis gear and more mana (does not matter for fire since we have no mana issues). It is a minimal difference unlike berserking for horde, so you can play human if you prefer it over gnome like me.
I shared most of them in my addons video but the weak aura I use for hot streak procs is made by Merfin and he only gives them out to subscribers on twitch.tv/merfin
If you have a lock in your group which has imrpoved shadowbolt you don't have to throw out scorch. Otherwise toss it out every 30s to keep the debuff up
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As Jean Bob pointed out in the comments I was wrong with ignites damage stacking up after the first tick of ignite. Pay no attention to the understanding ignite part as I obviously don't understand it well enough myself. I apologize for misinforming you guys but it is important to realize that this is only my take on it and I'm glad that someone pointed my bullshit out. I stand with every other part of the video though and I do believe it's useful information.
why do you lose two globals by casting blink?
I don't know what's so confusing with ignite. It's pretty simple. You crit a 10,000 fireball, it rolls a 4,000 dot in 2 intervals, so 2,000 + 2,000. If first one ticks and then you land another 10,000 fireball the remaining 2,000 tick is added to the next ignite, giving you an 6,000 ignite. If you crit before the first tick then the new ignite will be 8,000.
Can you write your addons?
hey man, love the vid ^^ sorry for the stupid question but does gnomish/goblin engi matter? what did you chose
as a first time mage I found myself struggling a bit when it came to figuring out my rotations thanks for the video, very informative.
Good to see so much content about Warmane! Great stuff dude!
My personal most important person in WoW . Ty Gnev
Odlican video burazeru, straight to the point bez preseravanja! Cheers
Very good and detailed video, apprecciate it man
Tysm! I’m a rouge/priest main and just got to lvl 80 with my first high level mage. I just started doing dungeons and really gearing up. I had a higher gear score than some but was lacking in damage as a fire mage. This helps a lot. About to do my first dungeon with these tips. Wish me luck 👋
Edit: I wasn’t behind in damage anymore! It wasn’t anything but techniques! Much appreciation sent your way!!! 😁
Nice vid btw, i felt in love with your channel, watched all the videos in one sitting yesterday!
Thank you very much Cliff, great to hear :)
Just as i started my poop. Thank you!
11 mo later, I join you.
Poggers man. i can't wait for your blood dk tank guide!!!
Hi,
Good guide,
Just a point about the potion you are using, to my point of view speed potion almost ever beat the wild magic potion
And another point about evocation : on LoD if you are using well your mana regeneration tools. I mean your 3 mana gems and a mana injector instead of a "dps" potion such as speed. You actually gain dps by delaying the moment you need to evocate to the moment you entering the FM chamber
About playing at long range it is a good way to both : 1/ avoid your teammates by putting harmfull aoe on the area you are playing 2/ maximize your LB uptime by being able to refresh it and throw your pyro before your FB hit the boss and potentialy proc a new hotstreak
Tiny
Hi, speed pot doesn't make too much sense to me but you're right about evo and playing at range. If I'm in group 5 with the priest and the shaman I don't need to evocate sometimes.
P.S. I saw your LK kill and those are some impressive numbers!
@@Kruzics Yeah if the group is not really strong (in terms of dps) it's hard to reach FM chamber w/o evocate w/o being in the grp5 ^^ I just wanted to pointing out the missunderstood powerness of the mana injectors, lot of people feel that because they are dps they must have to go for speed or wild magic, even if at the end it whould have stronger to got more mana back and do not have to evocate.
About speed potion, if you do quick and dirty maths, you will got that using speed potion approximatly give you between 0.6 and 1 more FB cast out of the 15sec of the potion.
For wild magic potion it give you 200 crit (4.35%) and
200 spell power : you will cast between 5 and 7 FB in 15sec, 1 LB and between 1 and 4 Pyro, let take the best world where you got 5 FB +4 Pyro +1 LB
FB spell coef under empowered fire : 115%
Pyro : 130%
LB : 20% per tick (you will have 5 ticks approximatly)
LB : explosion : 42.86%
So you have : 5*115%*200 + 4*130%*200 + 5*20%*200 + 42.86%*200
It's equal to 2 475.72 additionnal damage, even if we count that damage as crit (2475.72*150% = 3713.58) and with ignite (100%+40%)*3713.58 = 5 199.012
This is still lower than 0.6* a non-crit FB (non-crti FB w/o proc is aroung 9k) 9*0.6 = 5.4K and this is on the worst case scenario you can be and it mean you are not even synchronising your potion with your procs/images ^^
Sorry fot the long comment but i was in your spot before and a friend of mine was in my current shoes and before he actually prove me wrong, i didn't believed him that speed > wild magic.
(I saw some of you other video i enjoyed it ! even if idk where i am standing between painfull elitist ass and dum skada psyco xD)
@@tinyballpov5567 You make a good point but I still believe nothing is better than a wild magic pot during heroism if nothing else. I'll give it a shot next time I take my mage to a raid though to test it out.
I'd honestly love nothing more than a definitive guide on our class which I hope I'll make one day together with some of the best mages on the server, I'll invite you to the discussions when that comes to be :D
Nice guide, Gnev. I see you put a lot of effort in this videos, thank you for being awesome. I hope you do other cool guides aswell, like fury warr for example
Awesome guide thank you!
I struggle to understand your take on Ignite
Stacking high ignite damage does not increase your overall ignite damage; it's just funnier, fancier. Ignite rolling has been fixed for quite some time on Warmane.
You can see ignite as a bank of damage for each target. When you crit, you add 0.4*crit_dmg to the bank, and for first ignite tick you divide bank by two, second ignite tick you deplete completely the damage bank (since the debuff disappears). With this rule it's pretty easy to code it in a weakaura and you see that there's no ignite bug.
Looking at the example you are giving at 9:52:
- Your first scorch deals 3990 critical damage and Ignite ticks for 798*2 = 1596. 1596/3990 = 0.4.
- On the second test you do 2 crit scorches dealing 4588 and 4514 damage. Ignite deals 1819*2 = 3638 dmg. And 3638/(4588+4514) = 0.4.
Therefore there is no difference in overall damage for Ignite if you do multiple crit in a row or if you spread them in time. You can see that as: your crit deals 280% damage instead of 200%. Only way to deal something else from this 40% of crit damage, is if you deal no damage because target dies with a high damage bank.
Second part of my confusion is at 10:15
If someone launch a tennis ball towards you every 1.5 second, it doesn't matter if you are 5, 20 or a 100 meters apart, you will still receive the ball every 1.5 second. (I hope you understand the comparison)
So you can see that if you are 40 yards away or melee range, if you cast only fireball with 1.5 cast-time, then fireball will hit the boss every 1.5 seconds. Hence I don't understand what is your "sweet spot" for Ignite, maybe for other reasons like reacting to Hot Streak or idk but for Ignite it doesn't matter.
Again, if I misunderstood, correct me but I watched this part 15 times to be sure so it might be unclear on your side.
Rest of the video is nice. Any tips on Invisibility, Fire Blast, Handling threat ?
I fucked up with the video showing the ignites damage. What I meant was there are 2 ticks, try criting with your first scorch, waiting for the first tick to do off then criting again, while ignite is still on the target. The first does it's damage but the second tick still adds to the ignite's damage. That's what I meant to say but I fucked up with showing it. And yeah, I should have added handling threat in retrospect but I mostly think of everything I forgot to add after recording the audio :D
@@Kruzics I just tried what you did which is:
1 Crit Scorch, wait for 1st tick of Ignite, 2 Crit Scorch, wait for the 2 ticks of ignite and the result are:
- 1st crit scorch: 5343 dmg (0.4*5343=2137 dmg added to the damage bank)
- 1 ignite tick: 1068 dmg (1068 = 2137/2 = half the bank, so nothing out of the ordinary so far. Only 1068 dmg left in the bank)
- 2nd crit scorch: 4840 dmg (0.4*4840=1936 dmg added to the bank. Hence we have 1936+1068 = 3004 dmg in the bank left)
- 1st ignite tick: 1502 dmg (3004/2 = half of the bank. Only 1502 left in the bank)
- 2nd ignite tick: 1502 dmg (1502 = all that is left in the bank)
So if we look at the total,
- we did 5343 + 4840 = 10183 crit damage with our scorch
- we did 1502 + 1502 + 1068 = 4072 dmg with ignite
And we obviously have 4072 / 10183 = 0.399 = 0.4.
The Ignite damage is always 40% of the total crit damage, no matter how crit are spaced.
So no I don't think it works either, you should try on a dummy aswell, try to be as precise as i was here, and that should yield same result, which is that there is no more ignite rolling on warmane.
@@jeanbob415 I just tried it out and you're right, I made a mistake, I'll try to pin a comment about it but it is a mistake. Thank you for pointing it out Jean Bob.
distancing is good for getting more ticks so u regen more mana, it doesnt affect dps but it affects mana regen from talents which affects dps, also for combustion I'd say to be at max range to get the most of it before it fades from your last crit. the range talent is definitely important for dps
@@David-hs1bu the ticks from ignite will be the same whether you're close or far away as the main comment stated, the boss will still be getting fireballs every 1.5 seconds (or whatever your cast time is), so ignite will get refreshed at the same rate meaning that you'll get the same mana. Now about combustion, you could only get benefit from that if a fireball takes longer to travel than your cast time, but yeah you don't have to be that close so you can cast pyro before fireball lands.
I rly like the Video! as a 3.3.5 mage Veteran myself i would have addet the correct usage of the tier 10 2 piece bonus (holding heatstreak procs to extend uptime without wasting procs)in the tips and tricks section.
Svaka cast brate, sve si super objasnio 👌 molba ako bi mogao da napravis ovakav video za ret paladina. Hvala u napred pozdrav!
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Great video! Are u using standard Cheese addon or another more advanced? I saw different size of ur procs! All the Best!
nice guide bro! gonna try and make fire mage now 😬 btw what skill did u cast on the second to prevent fall damage 😱
Thank you very much Rupert, I used blink :D
I’m not gonna lie to you I don’t do much pve in WoW. It’s kinda boring at times. I do enjoy your videos a lot and keep up the good work homie
Can't wait for a paladin guide. Ret and prot.
TY, for this great guide. Saved! Have played everything and now jumping into Fire mage - former Arcane. Only problem for me is - I’m kiiiiiinda… bis… but lacking crit trinket (got haste one), and have not wand - got spirit one. But i believe I can run ilvl 245 trinket with crit while right one drops, and I get lucky… same with wand. But yeah - that crit proc is so wanted, and dps for me drops greatly without it😭 But there is some answers I needed to hear! Cheeers
Buy flare of heavens from the point shop.
@@vemundandersen4052 you mean sudail? Flare of heavens drops from Ulduar.
Finally a proper guide. A friend gave me a 6.4k fire mage but don't know how to use it. Tried the other tutorials but just messy and confusing
Leveling a class and exploring it during leveling, low level dungeons and world pvp is so crucial to understanding a class and unlocking its full potential.
Tbh this class is far from proper, he is whoring on shamblings with Living bombs(it may boost his dps on overall dmg which doesnt matter, but it sacrifices his dmg on useful targets which matters) and using LB's like that on valkyrs is just wrong, instead of using all of them one after another on valkyrs, if u do it like he is doing LB>FB>LB>FB>LB>FB ur Living bombs on valkyrs wont explode until they fly in the air,and if ur LB explodes while they are in the air its useless dmg so kinda pointless
@@bulvarix3903 what does "this class is far from proper" mean?
@@celzolsen8988 Probably meant guide
@@bulvarix3903 ah! Do you think fire mage is worth playing for small complexities or will it get super boring after a while? I need interesting optimizations and rotation to stay interested
the best guide ever
why do u use mirror immage on pull tho? shouldnt you use it with trinkets and all procs?
Very great and short guide , but should i roll fire mage starting phase 1 or should i go arcane?
Perfect guide!
Hey I was wondering what talents you should choose first. I’m lvl 20 and am not sure if I should knock out the arcane ones first or a mix of both. Any recommendations?
Still hoping to know about this
i recommend you to have frost for leveling, especially doing solo quest its better to have frost at low (best on my experience)
@@MalibuMoto Lvling as a fire mage is a pain in the ass. DPSing as a fire mage whit shit gear is a pain in the ass too.
Fire mages along with Fury warriors are specs that scale HARD and I mean HARD with good gear.
So, to your question:
Leveling- Frost
Fresh 80(rdfs and maybe your first few raids depending on gear)- Arcane, you will do more dps opposed to if you were fire.
When you have decent gear- fire.
nice guide Gnev thanks
Hey Gnev! i really enjoyed following your guides, what Meta gems would you say is the best?
Chaotic Skyflare Diamond
Do you believe this talent tree to be better, or do you think flame starter talent variant can work well for Aoe packs
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Hello Gnev, what are your thoughts on black magic vs spellpower enchant on weapon?
ty mate
Spell power gems for +5 sp bonus only?For later pieces?Such as the t10 gear set that gives +7sp bonus?We go for the sp gem?or try to get the bonus ?
I don't think you should be telling people to Living Bomb on Keleseth as it does AoE to the nucleus and unless your tank is a madman he wants as many as possible to be up.
After reviewing the video I tend to agree with you, I got too relaxed in my guild and I shouldn't have propagated that idea
Video is really nice and all, but is it me or (Improved) Scorch was never mentioned besides the talent tree having it and yes, I'm aware that warlocks should be able to provide the same debuff?
You're right, I forgot to mention that. Improved shadowbolt has the same effect as scorch but you should use it if you don't have a warlock in the raid!
locks stop providing the debuff at 35% or 25%. their execute doesnt apply it
Hey Gnev nice guide but you didn't mention, how do you make the Heating Up proc visualize before the Hot Streak. Is it from Cheese or something els?
It's a weak aura from Merfin, he sells it on his stream on twitch.tv/Merfin
Do fire mages have to keep Scorch up if there's a Destruction Warlock in the raid? I'm assuming Improved Shadow Bolt+Improved Scorch don't stack
I’m also curious to know the answer to this
They dont need to use it up until boss is less 30%hp. Then demo will use other spells
destruction doesnt provide this buff, they use incinerate not shadowbolt which is another reason why its not great in pve, Affli and Demo use SB but they stop using it at 25% and 35% respectively then you'd be the one who needs to keep scorch up.
Can you made video for fire mage macros plz
Okey so.. Let's talk about the scenario when it comes to GS.
When i'm under 2-4 set bonus ICC NM/HC Gear. What is the best specc? Arcane?
When do i switch to fire? Can i Go Fire specc all the way until i have good gear?
Maybe a dumb question, but for a Fire Mage (future WOTLK specifically) would a Troll's 20% haste racial out parse a human's 3% Spirit/Crit increase with the Molten Armor buff? Is there a clear winner there or would the two be pretty close? I'm thinking more PVE, but still liking the benefit of human's EMFH racial when needed in PVP situations. DPS output is still my prio though. Great video! thx
I'd say yeah, and by a large margin
If you track your trinket proc in an opener and pop combustion + Berserking + any on use trinket/ engi gloves at the same time then yeah its going to be huge, besides the main selling point of horde racials is the mini burst that lets you get out of difficult phases sooner, which is what harder bosses are all about. this is why on buffed content and on retail Horde became the dominant faction. in cata/mop it gets even worse.
Berserking is indeed incredibly strong and the only real dps boosting option for the Horde, unlike Alliance which is more balanced with racials since gnome and human racial do not have such noticable disparity.
If you are Horde, then troll is the clear winner.
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Hey great video. I've had a look at your addon video already, but noticed that your Cheese addon shows you a smaller proc/aura when you have 1 crit and are 1 more crit away from a Hot Streak proc. I've downloaded your Cheese addon but it doesn't seem to show the smaller aura when I have 1 out of 2 crits away from a Hot Streak proc. Would be able to explain how you have that extra smaller aura? Is that something you've set up through weakauras or something?
That's a weak aura I got from Merfin. I was unfortunately unable to share it because you gives them out only to his twitch subscribers but you can check him out on twitch.tv/Merfin
-Good morning, how are you? I would like to know how I can put different targets on the right side of the screen, to be able to renew dots, like a live bomb with the mage , saludos desde uruguay !
what's the addon you're using to track damage? It looks different than recount, or at least the version I'm using
Hey man was wondering if you have any bis lists for previous tiers of WoTLK raids, namely Ulduar and ToC?
Yo broski, I tried to find them as well in the early phases of Frostmourne but couldn't. Let me know if you find them please!
Since you played and mastered all classes, how about doing that type of guides for the other classes as well? ;)
Can you tell me the addons you use ? Which addon is that that shows when Pyroblast procs etc ?
So it´s first once you are in "full" Ulduar gear you should respec from Arcane to Fire? Also if you go fire before that is it like a lot less dps you do compared to arcane or just a little lower?
A lot lower.
Zeljko Samardzic is best race for mage class.
Hi, I have a question, u use new textures ? Or u play with old standard textures ?
I play with the old ones
Gnev, you showed major glyphs but not minor what should I get for minors?
i can't find your LVI aaddon videos
Suggest to watch this in 1.25x speed :D thanks for guide
how do you make your cheese proc like that? I know bigger one is for hot streak but smaller one i s for what? I like that
I just started on Warman new server thanks for the guide but my arcane spec pre raid is doing more damage than fire and I got my first 2 gear set and idk if I want to go with fire or arcane is it worth going fire from now ?
buy dual spec and switch so u can see on dummies, nobody can say exactly for you. Arcane is generaly better until naxx25 bis.
how do you know when youll be able to do insta fireblastt>?
ty mate for guide , any macros ? NEED MACOS FM
I know you won't have enough crit, but what if you tried fire mage in naxx?
Bro nice video can i get your elvui setup pls ❤
Which enchant are you using on your wep ? Do you prefer spell power or black magic and why ?
I prefer black magic, I always used it and never changed it to spell power :D
Spellpower is better for 90% of the expansion and cases, once you reach ICC level gear then haste is about on the same level as spellpower
What mods are you using and where did you dl them? (Specifically the cooldown ticker, recount, shrinking of action bars and heal bot)
I have a video about all my addons together with download links, you can find it on my channel :)
What's the best mage spec to play when as you progress through leveling, early 80, hc dngs, raiding?
I usually level as frost, switch to arcane at early level 80 and to fire when I get solid gear and enough crit
@@Kruzics thanks man!
Frost is best, great cc and aoe with slows, you'll carry the worst groups a lot. fire and arcane is much more dependent on a solid Tank.
Why not keep the scorch buff ont he target?
If you have a warlock with improved shadowbolt in your raid scorch isn't necessary. I agree that I should have mentioned it in the video though!
I also like frostfire bolt mage, can you make a comparison video?
Awbee made a great guide about Frostbite you can check out on his channel and compare :D
Привет, очень хотел бы поинтересоваться что у тебя за аддон на портрет персонажа, и используешь ли ты другие текстуры на подобоие как на актуале ? Очень познавательный контент спасибо !
Божий гнев найс :)
You have some downtime in between casts (not the gcd after instant I mean when you just spam firebolts.)
Consider using firebolts on mouse wheel.
Spamming a key is inferior
There’s a threshold at the end of the cast that will put whatever spell you hit in Que to be cast next. Spamming faster wont change anything.
Koliko bi trebao imati critical strike % prije nego prijedem s Arcane na Fire?
When is the best time to use Mirror Images? At the start of the fight? Or time it with Combustion and trinkets?
Most of the time you'll pop it at the start but at longer fights it's best to combine with your trinkets. You can make a weak aura to track when your phyla and cts proc
@@Kruzics Images are 30 sec and trinkets are 15~20 sec if you pop images at start it will cover trinket procs as well as combustion.
would you go fire from the start of the expansion or do you go arcane at first? If you go arcane at first, how much gear would you need before going fire?
Arcane is better early on because of lack of sufficient crit rating for fire to be good.
the difference isnt huge if you play fire very well, but you are still behind arcane a little, you need Ulduar 10man gear or naxx25 bis to beat Arcane.
Can you make a video about DKP and guild management ..thanks
Good idea, thanks for the suggestion :)
Hey gnev,Can you share your details profile? liked it alot like the one in the sec 5:04
Unfortunately I changed so I can't share it any more, I'll come back to the comment if I fix it again!
What tier does firemage get good?
How is Cheese showing the mini hot streak bars when you get 1st crit? Or is it a weakaura?
That's a weak aura made by Merfin, you can check him out at twitch.tv/mefin
@@Kruzics any chance you could send me the string?
@@igordonamos Sorry man but that's Merfin's sub incentive on twitch, it would be stealing from him
Koji je ovo addon da mogu pratit ignite, Hot streak i scorch?
What version of cheese or what addons is the one in the center of the screen that shows you the proc of the pyro and Little proc top for track First of the 2 crits u Need for hotstreak as in cata
That's a weak aura made by Merfin. He streams on twitch and only hands them out to subscribers which is why I didn't talk about it in the video
First of all you play gnom, not a human because of 5% intellect you get. Check your gear anf you will see how much intelect that is, so that why my mage was usually beating all other mages and then everyone start changing to gnome.
When i see this, it remember me everything. Old times when i played as mage on wotlk :)
So many hours spended and .... for nothing. Every expansion means same way - all what i got in previous datadisk is lost and useless and collect new gear, new achievements and new reputation again and again.
This is what hold me to get back to the wow.
So many months spended by achievements and reputation and gear for good game. No way for me :)
bro.. for AOE best way is stacking living bomb and getting a shit load of ignite on a single target then hit combustion it spreads to all nearby targets. then hit flamestrike
Hi gnev can i ask you why dont you use fire blast ? Thanks
I use it in rare occasions when I really have to move. Other than that fireball will just do much more damage in your rotation as fire blast uses up a global
@@Kruzics oh i see , thanks man have a good one !
Is there a Pre-raid BiS for Mage? That would be a huge!
There is for Naxx if I'm not mistaken, but not really in 3.3.5. Everybody just gathers their items from the last raids and mixes and mashes :D
What does proc mean?
Your thoughts on stacking up on reckless ameterine since I'm only 5k gs.
I'd just go arcane if you don't have enough crit yet. Solid idea though!
@@Kruzics exactly at low gear Score you need haste to get back to back crits to proc hot streaks. Thanks for replying. Keep up the good work. You have earned a subscriber:)
Gnev what addons are you using in your video? can you share us please? thank you.
Hi, I made a video about all of my addons together with the links to download them, you can check them out on my channel :)
Tebra kad sam video sliku Zeljka Samardzica umesto gnoma, umr'o sam
hmm man iam gonna reroll. was always a warrior but i came back from a little break of tbc and guess what i cant find a guild spot because nobody wants a warrior (ms). sooo iam gonna reroll with focus on lich king. first i wanna go feral but i read its difficult but very rewarding. on the other side i never played a caster endgame and it looks like fire mage is bickd1ck dps. need help.
but should e use scorch ? in raids
You should get a Mouseover Bomb Macro!
Is arcane better if you’re in low gear? 3-4K gs or so
Yeah, I only go for fire when I get my crit up, at around 5.4k gs
can you do a frost mage video sometime? would love to see it
Sorry my dud but it just doesn't work in PvE and I'm not skilled enough to showcase it in PvP :D
@@Kruzicsaaaw ok, im mostly a pvper and would love to see some pvp videos if you made any
how u use living bomb on all adds in one second?
shadowmourne grinding guide would be nice
I did an Oculus farm vid, that's how I got most my gold tbh
isn't human the best race for alliance since 3%spirit racial. molten armor with glyph converts 55% spirit to crit. considering u have a dranai in the group
Hey, know it is a bit late with the reply. Gnome provides 0.4% more crit than Human with bis gear and more mana (does not matter for fire since we have no mana issues). It is a minimal difference unlike berserking for horde, so you can play human if you prefer it over gnome like me.
fury warrior next maybe?
Perhaps, these honestly take a lot to make so I'll think about it :D
Should you ever cancel a fireball for an instant pyro?
nah, don't see a situation where that would work honestly
Spam living bomb on kele really smart
Hi Gnev, can you share your weakauras ?
I shared most of them in my addons video but the weak aura I use for hot streak procs is made by Merfin and he only gives them out to subscribers on twitch.tv/merfin
What race is the best for mage - human or gnome?
Gnome for PvE, Human PvP
I scorch not part of the rotation. How do you get the debuff up?
If you have a lock in your group which has imrpoved shadowbolt you don't have to throw out scorch. Otherwise toss it out every 30s to keep the debuff up