3-8-2023 Sensitive Shadow…
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2023
- Yesterday morning, Shadow returned to the nest to discover that the eggs were no longer there. He looked confused and concerned about this and stared at the nest bowl for long minutes. He looked around the nest, searching, but found nothing. He stayed for about 10 minutes, without any of his usual stick rearranging. He seemed to be trying to process this new situation. Then he flew off to one of the nearby perch trees where Jackie was sitting.
At the perch tree, instead of joining Jackie near the top, Shadow tucked himself into a lower part of the tree. Jackie climbed down to him and they spent a few minutes being quietly close. It looked like Jackie understood his sadness and spent time consoling him. Both of them have shown this same behavior in the past when something unexpected happened with the eggs. Jackie seems be better at accepting the sad situations more quickly and being able to move on. And she appears to be aware that Shadow cannot and works to assist him with his process of coming to acceptance.
In the afternoon, Shadow returned to the nest. He checked the nest bowl again, just in case anything might have changed. He gently moved a little stick and some fluff in the nest bowl, trying to return to a bit of his normal routine. But he could not do more. He stayed at the nest for over two hours, just staring and watching the surroundings of the nest tree.
For anyone who has not seen the past couple posts, Jackie and Shadow, with Jackie’s encouragement, realized that these current eggs were not going to hatch. They left the eggs unattended for two days and the local ravens found them and ate them, cleaning up the nest completely. Yesterday was Shadow’s first visit back to the nest since that happened.
Yes, animals do have emotions. We do not know if they are similar to ours, but in situations that we would call an ‘emotional moment,’ their behavior changes completely from their normal activities. In every ‘normal’ day, Shadow cannot resist bringing sticks or checking and rearranging the sticks already in the nest-today, he could not get himself to do more than trying to move one tiny stick in the nest bowl even though he spent hours at the nest. Jackie and Shadow are definitely processing something in a different way than they had been and not simply moving on to normal daily activities. Just like when your dog leaps up or wags his tail to greet you, their behavior changes according to the situation. Only they can know exactly what is going on inside them.
For those of you feeling sad about the eggs, please allow the sadness, allow whatever you are feeling. It will pass, just like it will for Jackie and Shadow. And we will all move on to watch and see what we will get to observe and learn next.
Sandy
FriendsofBigBearValley.org friendsofbigbe... 
Развлечения
![[NO ADS] Cat TV for Cats to Watch 😸 Birds & Squirrels Play in the Garden 🕊️ Bird Videos & Cat Games](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YXNMIFw0kn0/mqdefault.jpg)
![Chuckyy - Devil Hours [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/f3wZGj0VnZU/mqdefault.jpg)
What a beautiful description of the recent behavior of Shadow and Jackie. Watching Shadow on the nest and seeing his seemingly perplexed gaze at where the eggs used to be, I wondered if his actions were driven by hormone, instinct and simple habit. But reading about how he later sat alone on the tree, apart from Jackie and how he didn’t carry out his usual stick arrangement behaviors really brings to light how deeply he’s been affected, beyond what could be natural nesting instinct. I’ve only been watching them since the start of the storm, so it’s all new to me. I’m very grateful for all that can be observed and learned by this pair and their habitat, as well as the awesome folks that allow the world to witness this beauty through the cams and their thoughtful observations and descriptions. Also finding this community to be
… full of kind and compassionate people!
Happy but sad you just started our love fest we have for these two. Please consider watching and keeping up with them🦅❤️🦅
@@lauraschleicher7315 I will! Following them and this community has been emotionally enriching and something that feeds my soul! ❤
Said much better than I. Perfect words
All reactions of every living thing on this planet comes down to chemistry, which drives the various chemicals that we call “hormones”. The eagles have very similar chemistry to us when we talk about bearing/raising young. According to experts, brooding hormones allow the very busy eagles to remain in one spot for hours while brooding… just like hormones make human moms sleepy and protective, and human dads have sudden urges to visit Home Depot :).
The ravens helped the process of ridding the eagles’ bodies of these brooding chemicals, but I think the levels drop differently from male to female ( I am not an Eagle expert). Hopefully they will enjoy clutching hormones again this season.
Beautifully written, yet heartachingly so. Thank you so much FOBBV for all you do.
Much love to Jackie & Shadow.
Have to admit I totally cried 😭. It's a couple mourning a pregnancy loss. To watch a pair of birds mourn the loss is heartbreaking. Been there and have done that and can relate to the pain
Ohhhh this is so so heartbreaking 💔 😢😭
Poor Shadow…He keeps looking for his babies 😢
I can only imagine how confused and distressed he must be feeling.
Go make some new babies with Jackie 🦅🦅
Well said, Paulette- I felt the same way - had to grab some kleenex watching poor Shadow looking down at the empty nest :(
what happened to the babies?
they just didn't hatch. could've been a fertility problem or something else. J&S eventually realized this and they left the eggs, letting ravens scavenge them. hopefully they'll try again!
So sad....😢
@@pao5320 A crazy cold front hit them. It was just too cold for the eggs, likely. Poor Shadow & Jackie gave it all they could.. even getting buried in the snow to keep on those two eggs:(
He's a good eagle-daddy. He mourns the loss.
Ok, until this I've been thinking folks were over the top commenting about eagle grief: I stand greatly corrected. This was terribly poignant to see. What was equally moving was finding out how much of a team these two birds really are.
Thank you to everyone who works to bring the footage to us... and who were kind in their explanations.
Paz y luz, everyone.
Wow What a Beautiful Couple. My First year watching them. They have a lasting place in my heart now. My wife and I just recently went through a miscarriage and It pains me to see them go through this. What strong parents they were to never give up during the blizzard. They will prevail and comeback strong 🙏
This close-up of Shadow, and all his time spent there like he was keeping a moment of silence, was so powerful, emotional! We could see his shoulders moving up and down while breathing, almost like a human.. and his eyes 😍 And yes Sandy, I felt sad and I know that it will pass and nature will follow its course.. Thank you for all your team effort! 🙏🦅🤍
Jackie gives her quiet presence as Shadow finally accepts their loss. Eagle strong Love ❤❤
Very heart breaking.Shadow-is one sensitive eagle, keeps looking for a little one. Thank you FOBBV for these videos you share.💔🦅
Poor Shadow. Man if that doesn't put a lump in your throat nothing will. These birds, I believe, comprehend loss and grieve. Their entire existence is based on growing, thriving, and reproduction. The fact that they are absolutely beautiful magnificent creatures is an added bonus. I've learned so much from this nest and the others I follow. M15 has shown me as well that males are capable of the bonding seen between the mommas and chicks. I will never forget how he covered his E's during a rainstorm with his wings after we lost Harriet and the chicks were still so young. I have faith that the Creator above is in control and what is meant to be will be. I can't help but be honest and say I'd really love to see these two lay another clutch this season. Thank you to everyone whose hard work, time, skill, and love go into providing these webcams for all of us to see. I feel blessed to even be able to have a glimpse into the real world of these eagles without interference from man. Your work is so highly appreciated, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Such beautiful birds. Majestic and a symbol of our country. Nothing hurts more than losing little ones. I can’t even imagine what they must feel as they must move on and continue their own lives. These birds will never know how much love and hope surrounds them. Perhaps there is a lesson in there somewhere for all of us.
It’s ok ,Shadow. Jackie’s here for you. We are here for you, Too❤
So beautiful! Shadow’s face looks so confused and devastated! As a parent, my heart goes out to Shadow and Jackie.
Thank you, Sandy, and whoever makes this live video possible. I only started following three weeks ago. And I got addicted to it. I'd put it on as background noise, to do work, chores, sleep, eating, etc..
Last Saturday night I cried harder than I ever cried in my life, it felt.
@@codydavidyates72 sorry Sir, but if pair of eagles losing 2 undeveloped eggs was the saddest/toughest moment of your life, then I'm jealous....
@@codydavidyates72 и я …
@@codydavidyates72 it was heartbreaking. I have been following for a little over a month now. I cried hard too and felt such a sinking feeling. Definitely going to continue following these two big, beautiful birds. Hopefully we will have successes of hatchlings in the future.
Also, this was incredibly unfortunate to have that horrible weather move in exactly when it did. Nature works in mysterious ways.
There are some human parents that could learn from Jackie and Shadow. How sweet is he to worry and care so much about his family
Most fathers do.
Shadow having a difficult time moving on, versus Jackie moving on and helping him accept and recover... It's just like how in humans if someone moves on faster, they will help those they love who are still grieving. These birds feel more than we will ever know, their expressions harder to discern for us, but i can tell they feel this loss. Amazing to see such creatures affected by an unsuccessful nest bowl and the different ways they process and move on.
I am glad Jackie and Shadow have each other to help one another. An incredible team-- they will try again, and they will be okay. So will we. 💖
I love FOBBV almost as much as I love these birds. Thank you, Sandy.
It was comforting to learn that the eggs never developed, although it saddened me to see Shadow looking back at the eggs when he first made the decision to leave the nest, and now, as he returns to check out the nest. If the eggs had hatched, they may not have made it through the storms. Shadow and Jackie now have another opportunity (I believe) to be the amazing parents they are. Can’t wait to see their new clutch! ❤
I just happened to check on the nest right when the ravens were eating the eggs.
Shadow is sad. That zoom in on the face is beautiful. Glad to see the community support and interest around them.
The Ravens were very respectful of the nest and cleaned up.
@@AlisonsArt They had been multiple times and thought twice like it was a trap lol, given the strength and tenacity of the Eagles. But I am glad they allowed the Eagles to move on past this and also gained some protein in the process. I like Ravens as well they are very intelligent and we have a pair we feed and interact with locally that will eat from our hand.
Sandy, Thank you for your words. Jackie and Shadow are grieving their loss. When I first notice that the eggs were gone, my heart just sank. Jackie and Shadow are truly amazing. They will help each other through this heartbreaking time. Spring is around the corner and thus starts a new season for Jackie and Shadow. Love you J & S.. 🦅💕
I tuned in for this moment, he was looking out for such a while I couldn’t believe it I was like wow he really is grieving :( nature is so cruel but so beautiful as well . Im a new watcher but I am
So hooked on this live.
Thank you Sandy for taking the time to post about this beautiful and wonderful display of nature!!
Sandy, wow. Your writing moved me, right along w/Shadow's processing of all of this. 💔
~In the world of critter cam viewing, humans oft times suffer major head-buttings (and sometimes very ugly ones indeed) over two things, both of which fall under the category of feelings. One is about the creatures we observe and whether or not they have their own emotions. Two, happens whenever any viewers share their own emotions over any event that we witness.
~~To read your VERY affirming words of encouragement re feelings - theirs and ours - is nothing less than BEAUTIFUL. Bravo and thank you very much! Clearly, you have a beautiful heart and so do the critters we watch. To see Jackie get down there, next to her beloved is also incredibly BEAUTIFUL! ❤🦅🦅
~~~People who erroneously believe humans are the only living species who experience emotions are truly missing out on our connections to other living beings.
~~~~Thank you very much for this heart-wrenching video and your magnificent, affirming words.🥰
~~~~~Very sorry Jackie and Shadow lost their clutch, for whatever reason. I send them out BIG, loving, spiritual hugs. They're SO beautiful together.❣ I wish their nesting season was not in the harshness of wintertime for them, but so it is.
Such an amazing eagle, ❤️🦅
He is! ❤️
Not many things make me cry... for some reason these beautiful Birds got a hold of me... that tribute to spirit was deep and this is just as deep
Bless your 💓 Sandy for this emotional narrative and update. I was able to get out a very healing long cry. Thank you for allowing us to feel they way we do about Jackie and Shadow's loss!
Take care 🦅🤎🦅🥺
Aww It’s going to take a while for Shadow to get use to the eggs not being there! Just like it will for all of us! Keep fingers & toes crossed that Jackie will lay 2 more eggs in the next couple weeks, like she has been known to do before! But if she doesn’t, we always have next season to look forward to! It just breaks my heart for papa Shadow though! If only human fathers carried that much about their unborn kids like eagles do!
💛🐣🦅🤎
Oh us future fathers we care about our unborn kids we just apparently can’t say much because of the “my body my choice” if a woman wants to abort a child we literally have no say in wanting to keep the baby both legally and emotionally. Us fathers don’t have many rights when it comes to unborn children you’d be called out as misogynistic if you want to keep the baby and she wants to abort it.
Human Fathers? Really? You're nuts.
It looked like farewell, sadness and also pain with Shadow, it touched me very sadly; the same was some time before with Jacckie. 😓🦅🦅🥚🥚💕
Thank you Sandy for your explanations. Yes it has been hard to watch. So much emotions now. But I'm eager to see their progression onward.
So well said Sandy, your tribute to our sweet, loyal, Shadow. Such a terrible winter for everyone in Big Bear Valley. The coming Spring will be especially welcomed!
That makes me so sad, a few tears in my eyes right now....God love him.
Beautiful 😍 video. 🙏 Just praying that this magnificent eagle pair have another clutch 🙏 !
The loss of the eggs is sad. However, given that the weather has been so brutal in BB perhaps a blessing in disguise...can you imagine if the eggs hatched trying to feed and protect chicks from the elements would have been...a treacherous journey..Let's hope better nest times to come for our awesome Jackie & Shadow and beautiful strong eaglets in their future ❤️
Wise words to counteract the extreme drama of so many comments.
@@mortalclown3812 Thank you..
I'm glad there was nothing left for him to see. I watched what happened to them. And I'm so glad Jackie or Shadow did have to see that.
wow. tears of sadness for me, and for Shadow. hang in there you both. good weather and good moments to come. :( :)
Sweet...sweet....wonderful boy. Xoxo.
Thank you for expressing the thoughts on this video and definitely the mourning process that Jackie and shadow are enduring at this time..we as humans know the struggles of just letting go.. it's a process and just doesn't happen overnight.. the intimate moments They shared with their egg's is undeniable and we can only have love, faith and strength for Jackie and shadow as they continue to push forward with such determination for a better tomorrow.. They are going to be so blessed again One day and we will never give up hope on that or our unconditional ❤ support for Jackie and shadow..stay strong in the midst of such sadness!!!! Your true blessings are yet to come!!!! ❤❤
Breaks my heart. I have watched this for a couple of years. Only one chick. They have each other.
They had Simba who fledged and Cookie (RIP) a couple of years before Spirit. - Stephanie
Shadow looked SO sad and in disbelief, it just broke my heart! :( Hopefully, they will have little eaglets next time.
Shadow l feel for you. Being a Dad meant quite a lot to you, Shadow. Blessings sent to you and Jackie. You two are amazing eagles. Please lay another clutch of eggs Jackie. Love you!!
Thank you Sandy. Love Jackie and Shadow. He seems
So sweet and considerate. They are both so strong. Praying for better results next time. Love them and they feel like family. I was glued to them for several weeks just watching and learning so much from their love and dedication to their eggs and one another. Thanks so much for making these views and their story be known.❤
I feel so bad for Jackie and Shadow 💔
Poor Shadow is really having a hard time with his loss 😥 wish I could give him a bigg hugg..
without him clawing my eyes out of course 😉
Love them both 💕
Yeah, Eagles have emotions just like us. Some of them are way better parents than we will ever be.
Thank you very much Sandy. This is a beautiful description of exactly what I witnessed. I watched Shadow during both visits. 2 1/2 hours was definitely not typical behavior for him. This post has been very helpful for me. I know they will move on and be fine. It helps to feel validated. Thank you so much. Much love to Jackie and Shadow. 🦅🦅❤
Wow! I was not expecting this! I’m so happy to receive this education! I knew NOTHING about the eagle world before Spirit. Thank you FOBBV !
He gives you the sense that he's looking around for his little fledglings - expecting them to fly by at any moment... :(
Sandy,
Thank you for providing the very touching and beautiful description of what has happened at Jackie and Shadow's nest.
I love this, thank you Sandy for validating what I and most other people are feeling with our magnificent eagles. I feel that if they can love and protect, they can feel loss. 😭 They will move on and try again...
I have been watching this nest for two years now was in awe of watching Spirit born last year and it saddens me that Jackie and shadow have lost this year’s clutch. I used to live in those mountains and it’s been a tough winter to watch what’s happening But for these beautiful eagles to lose their eggs is heartbreaking. Hopefully they will have another clutch.
Aww poor daddy went back, I mean the sweetheart angel daddy with a cutie pie I hope they have a baby soon we love you guys🐣😇💋🙏🐾🐣💜
I felt every word and emotion. What a wonderful display of nature, sandy!! I wonder if they’re gonna try again and have eggs soon
Thanks Sandy..well said. We love you J&S. 🦅🦅♥️
The gerbil visiting the nest is so kind. If humans could be that sensitive, what a world we would live in.
Humans are infinitely more sensitive than wild eagles, who literally gore their meals to death or steal them from other starving animals and sit through literal blizzards on eggs that have a disproportionate chance of never hatching anyways, and then keep doing it even when failing. I don't think sensitivity is a trait that eagles really possess in vast quantities haha
I think you're referring to Fiona, the flying squirrel. But, thank you...for making me smile through the tears, imaging wild gerbils at Big Bear Valley.
I know he’s sad. He wants to be a dad once again. And such a great dad he is. Just watching him looking at where the eggs used to be broke my heart. Only him & Jackie decided whats best. But he just couldn’t resist coming back to the nest to grieve. I know they have feelings too.
My heart breaks for these two shadow always tends to take a while to let go and I understand it’s nature but the way us humans think I wish I could just give him a big hug and let him know it’s OK and they can start over and try again and will succeed I think it was probably for the best the storms were awful. It was really soon after spirit for her to have a clutch and eventually hopefully they will experience it soon but it does take shadow a little longer. He is so awesome and Jackie deserves to be a mommy again because they are great, she’s had some rough times with her clutches. I love these two very much. They are awesome love you, Jackie and shadow, wishing the best and trust the Eagles.
Thank you for your summary and words of comfort, Sandy. It was truly heavy, very hard to watch Shadow go through the process of grief. I noticed his "chirps" were a bit different from his normal sounds. I also observed Jackie grieving in her own way. Both "wing-slapped" the ravens who perched next to them - my interpretation was these ravens "confessed" their "deed" - my private levity - and they were "slapped" for it 😄😉
Even though I'd accepted the situation, this brought tears. Seeing Shadow's confusion and sadness cracks my heart open, especially when there is no meaningful way to offer comfort. Grief is a powerful thing to be so easily seen and understood amongst all who experience it. This too shall pass, but in the present, I'll unashamedly feel for Shadow and Jackie as they process a loss that is clearly upsetting for them.
Well said....😢I Still tear up watching this. Huge knot in my throat 😢 They have such emotions. Beautiful, yet so heartbreaking 💔
Oh my sweet dear friens. Don't look so sad. God hnows best. Next time is going to be ok. Have faith shadow & Jackie. I love u & pray for u. God has this. Thank you for all the hard work that you do. God bless you
ugh my heart hurts but i am happy to have been on this wonderful journey with so many amazing people much love
Cuanta tristeza hay en mi corazón, la naturaleza es dura, pero pueden volver a intentar tener más bebés. Bendiciones para ellos.
Our hearts are with Shadow 💜 thank goodness he has Jackie to help him.
In a time where videos don’t even describe their videos at all, your description was very well written. I’m appreciative to better understand what I’m watching.
Thank you for this opportunity to learn about eagles, their relationship and emotions. I never knew, but have learned to love them. Breaks my heart.
I tuned in a couple of times, and there’s no way those eggs could have been viable left exposed to the cold and the wind for as long as they were. I have a feeling they kind of must’ve known. I’m 55 and down in Pasadena but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a winter like this before with snow on the mountains for this long.
Yes, my heart broke for shadow. Such a sensitive guy. As sad as this was, they’ve showing some interesting behavior. Tidying up the nest and I thought maybe they were going to mate. Fingers crossed 😊
Thank you Sandy. Well said.
I only recently found this site and watched only 3-4 videos but already have become very attached to Jackie and Shadow. This made me cry. I am so sad for them.
Poor Shadow. Life snd Mother Nature can be harsh. Love you Shadow ❤❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Sandy ❤️🩹
So sad to see Shadow showing sadness. I read an excellent write up from Chirp about birds showing emotions, and this is a special write up Sandy. We just knew they had feelings indeed.💔🦅🦅
Thank you Sandy for such beautiful and understanding words.
What sweet and beautiful, majestic birds. Thank you for sharing these videos of their lives and explaining everything with such care. I love the closeup pictures near the end of this video. I would like to order a t-shirt from the FOBBV with the eagles' pictures. I hope all of the people in Big Bear and surrounding areas stay safe in this wild winter weather. ☮💙💛🤍
😢such precious birds, so sad to see them sad and the loss 😢
I need a man like Shadow. Builds strong emotional attachments, is dutiful about keeping the nest tidy, brings me food.
Sandy... great comments thank you for your kind explanation.
My heart aches for theirs loss. Thank you for sharing.. and allowing people to share that they have feelings too😢
Thank you!
I know Shadow and Jackie are sad. They are so great together and the best of parents. They will overcome this with their great love💖
This was probably hands down the most honorable mascot the US could have picked, what an incredible, majestic bird.
Maybe it's a good sign that J & S are hanging around the nest sight I'm hoping for her to have a second clutch
I have a feeling there maybe. 🤞🤞
@@WildWestGal Yeah, me too! 👍👍🤞🤞
I know it is the nature of things and I still morn with Jackie and Shadow. Thank you for the update.
Tank you Sandy for the explanation.Shadow very sad. Jacckie knew something was wrong.They are sensitive and convey what you said very realistically. We are sad, fron Argentina
It’s heartbreaking to see him look down and then all around.
It's really difficult to see this and not feel that he's experiencing loss. But I think a lot of humans give weight to his reaction that may not approximate his actual feelings. (And I'm not giving them short shrift.)
Just heartbreaking 💔
The text in the description box is so empathic and true. Thank you!
Thank you 😢
Hi everyone so very hard to see shadow in the nest looking for his babies so heart breaking 😢. Such beautiful eagles Jackie and Shadow. If they only knew how much support and love we all wish them they are so much loved 🥰
Rest well Jackie Shadow SED everyone
FOBBV thank you for all you do loved that close up of Shadow so beautiful he is.
Beautifully written, on point observations.
He is just Sweetness!!
My first time watching Shadow and Jackie. So the daddy was looking for his babies. How sad. Humans can learn so much from animals.
That was really emtional to watch. I'm glad Jackie has been around to comfort Shadow.
I pray new life blesses Jackie and Shadow soon. It is hard to watch such majestic beautiful creatures knowing they are in mourning.
That is so sad I was so looking forward to seeing them hatch. It was quite early in the season and with all that cold and snow it's almost not surprising. I'll definitely be checking in again to see is she laid more eggs.
They are such proud parents that poor shadow is taking this hard. I am mourning along with them sending my strength and love to this amazing eagle Family (Spirit included ) and the FOBBV crew. 😭
Hoping and wishing we will get to see twins next; one boy and one girl
Lovely post. Thank you.
I understand it is the circle of life, but this made me cry.
Absolutely beautiful and unbelievably sad💔
THERE'S NO CRYING ON RUclips (dumb eagles tugging at my heart strings like grumble grumble grumble....)
I'm glad they're there for each other.