The Dark Secrets & True Despair of the Separatist Droid Factory Worlds
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:42 The Techno Union
3:26 Foundry of the Confederacy
6:15 Desperate Measures
8:41 Outro Кино
“Rookie numbers.” -the Adeptus Mechanicus on the atrocities of the Techno Union’s Mech Worlds
The Senate holds the most secrets.
The Senate has become the secret
@@geetslys i am the senate
66 likes execute order 66
Yeah you're right, palpatine did have a lot of secrets
Are u sure that the Senate isn't based on Russia? Lol
Separatists: “behold our glorious mech worlds”
The Imperium of man: “oh how cute”
*happy Tech Priest noises*
2:44 be like
Lets burn these Techno Unio technoheretics! Legio Titanica forward!
I'd actually be shocked if a Corporation wasn't evil.
Too soon
There's no such thing as easy money. In order to be wealthy and successful you have to be kind of a scumbag.
All the content on this channel makes the movies far more interesting. Harnessing everything I know to truly understand every moment gives it weight beyond a space-setting soap-opera. It's also interesting looking at parallels with current events. Keep up the awesome work, Geetsly's! Stay snazzy!
I agree.
Seconded
Exactly!!!
Read a book
@@hivemind6292 no u
Me: **Watches Geestlys videos on old Sith repeat**
My wife hearing 'nads' and 'kuns' every 2minutes and wondering what I'm listening to
2:48 That’s an image of Mars from Warhammer 40,000. I don’t know if that was an intentional reference and nod to the overlap between the Star Wars and Warhammer fandoms or just a mistake, but seeing it makes me happy either way.
I would like to hear more about Hypori personally. Especially, since it's the battle where Grevious made a big introduction to the Republic, and where the legendary Jedi Sha'Gi met his end.
Also, you've mentioned how the Republic finally managed to pull its industries together to finally push back against the Separatists before. So I would love a full video on the topic, maybe discussing the battle or event that led to this, and the first battle after this event where the Republic demonstrated its new industrial might.
Also, also, so are we going to get any videos related to the Book of Boba Fett like we did Mandalorian, Clone Wars season 7, and the Bad Batch?
As if Sha'Gi actually met his end instead of getting bored and using 2% of his power to leave for another franchise
2:44 ah holy mars the best mech world
All hail the Omnissiah
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I would hate to work at a Droid Factory
It would be soooo bad
Did any Neimodians join the Rebel Alliance? Or did the Alliance reject them (although the early rebellion might not have had much of a choice)
I think the FFG book Desperate Allies has the answer
I believe some did although the Rebellion did its best to separate itself from Confederacy war criminals, at most using them as privateers rather than allowing them to properly join the Rebellion, taking the most practical course of action when faced with that issue, given fleets of veterans were quite useful to the fledgling Alliance although giving them full membership would have been a major propaganda victory for the Empire who could claim the rebels were nothing more than Separatist war criminals.
@@nickagalidis1845 Yeah, I was just reading about this the other day. They used some Trade Federation ship captains as Privateers after the dissolution of the Imperial Senate. I'm DMing a tabletop game about it next week.
The EU canon is inconsistent on this. Disney prefers to more or less ignore the issue while simultaneously acknowledging that there were a fair number of so-called "Separatist holdouts". However, other materials showed significant chunks of the old Confederate Navy incorporated into the Rebel Alliance, including using several of the iconic 'Lucrehulk' battleships in a diversionary attack which served to draw away the Death Star's supporting fleet to open it up to Wedge's starfighter raid.
As for the FFG book it mentions the issue but waffles on giving an answer, stating that the Rebel leadership hasn't made up their mind on whether or not they should incorporate Neimoidians and other former separatists, though it seemed to err on the side of assuming that most Rebels will take any help they can get. Personally, I think it makes sense the Rebels would recruit ex-Separatists, since after the dissolution of the senate and the Death Star destroying Alderaan, the Empire was so widely hated that Imperial propagandists pointing to decades old CIS war crimes would lose a lot of its sting.
Since there were Geonosians throughout the mech-worlds I hope this means that the Empire did not kill all of them and that they can repopulate!
This is primarily EU/legends content. Geonosian genocide occurred in Disney Canon.
The only good bugs a dead one!
I like to mash EU/legends with Disney Canon! So I consider this Canon!
Good riddance to the Geonosians. They don't deserve to live.
Emipire gased them to get rid of them
Anyone: geetsly will probably run out of Star Wars stories to talk about.
Geetsly: oh you think so, hold my beer 🍺
Thank you geetsly you guys have made me fall in love with Star Wars again 👍
An these guys tried to pass themselves out as the good guys... Destroying whole worlds, actually expelling ones they didn't like to fend for themselves, brutal suppression... An being compared with the edge towards being WORSE then the WORST ever in history known evil factions??? Seems Larry the Clone Trooper was the ONLY true good guy in this war... Since Storm Trooper Gary hadn't Graduated yet
This whole talk about the Separatists left me with one question. Why would the Republic wanted to expand into the Mid and the Outer Rims in the first place? If they leave them alone, the Clones Wars might not even happen.
Cheap labor for the short answer
I think it's for a multitude of reasons, but from what I understand it, it's for resources and cheap labour as the core worlds were in need of more space, plus some alien worlds in the outer rim didn't want to be controlled by the human centric core worlds. Plus given the general corruption of the senate meant some worlds just wanted to govern themselves. There's a video by Lore Master titled 'Why the Separatists were the Good Guys in the War' that can explain this better.
@@chocochipjewel I know what the Core Worlds wanted but if the Mid and the Outer Rims said no to them back during the Old Republic, what is going to happen?
@@lerneanlion I don't think any world would've been able to resist if the Republic voted in favour of invading them. Banding together made them stronger, and that's how the CIS were originally made. The corporations' influence came after. Initially it was just a reasonably large group of mid rim and outer rim worlds who stuck together to be free from the Republic
@@chocochipjewel Wait. Are you saying that the Senate is going to go against what the Republic is standing for and invade some independent planets just because they refused the offer to join? A bit too direct if you asked me. The best I can think of is that some senators decided to hire some pirate gangs to harass those planets and the Republic arrived to defend them when they are being contacted by the locals.
Droids were to make the clones and Jedi not monsters for murdering "true" people who only wanted freedom
. It was a literary device. Can you imagine if they were slaughtering that many regular farmers and stuff ? Even in the original trilogy they kept the troopers faces hidden to dehumanize them, and make the viewer ok with them being killed despite being draftees and almost Like himself in the begining of new hope if you recall as kids seeking work and travel.
Funnily enough making people dress like uniformed, faceless masses of mooks does have a psychological effect. It makes you think less about your individual decisions and makes you feel more like part of a unit and thus more likely to obey orders. The flip side is that other people see you as faceless mooks, this is why modern riot police armour tends to have clear plexiglass visors on helmets instead of black tinted visors. It's also why people tend to be less hostile around "officers Parker and Hernandez who regularly patrol this neighbourhood" than "that fucker who looks more like modern Darth Vader".
They still killed a lot of Geonosians, Umbarans, Zygerrians, Jabiimi, Mandalorians etc.
Some in real life hide their face to avoid reprisals too. Its a bit different in real life, but one could pretend that was Lucas's goal with them (occupying their own hometowns, etc) but that wouldn't explain why it started with clones then (since they look the same and don't care) but I think that the clones idea was since "hey, don't they look the same kind of in their armor, kind of like boba too, so he must be a clone too but a different clone kind of a bit" and then the unanswered "clone wars" issue (left intentionally open for fanfic) that "ben" served in according to Luke, mash together like a square in a circle hole and call it a day. My guess at least.
“Freedom” for who though? Firstly, they were being manipulated by Palpatine. Secondly, the “freedom” they wanted was a corporate hellscape that destroyed entire planets.
@@RandomGuy-jo8ky Well the armour probably serves to keep poisonous gasses out, protects the whole body from things like shrapnel, there's probably night vision in that helmet too. I mean Stormtrooper armour isn't a specialized armour, and the galaxy is a big place, so Stormtroopers and clone troopers alike would have to be prepared to fight on many different types of planets.
*What if the CIS won?;* During the Clone Wars, Sidious and Dooku got taken out _before_ the endgame when the CIS had been so badly nerfed that the GAR "won"?
Both had very close calls and it could have been as simple as the bridge of the Invisible Hand being taken out by a stray shot or a collision before Palps was "rescued", simultaneously killing them both.
What would be the result if the war was left to its natural conclusion of a CIS victory and _they won_ without a Sith calling the shots.
Would the Galaxy have ended up with something that could even be worse than the Empire?
I feel like just because of this we need a Star Wars version of what if and have this be one of the very first episodes
Very underrated questions that i never knew i needed answers for.
There's actually a fan work here on RUclips called Revenge of the Clones that takes a look at this idea, as it takes place in an alternate universe where Fives managed to survive long enough for the drug to wear off and convinced the Jedi and his fellow Clones of the truth, and with a little investigation, they eventually took Palpatine and Dooku out on Courascant when they had a secret meeting. Thus, control of the CIS fell to Grevious, who after news on the holonet got out about Palpatine and Dooku manipulating the war, decided fuck it, and dedicated all the CIS resources, at least the ones that weren't completely stuck in battle, to one big final attack on Courascant to end the Jedi and Republic.
@@zexalbrony4799 cant wait to check it out. Cheers happy new year.
@@zealtqwerty3083 Thanks. You too.
Bezos and his contemporaries are taking notes…
And possibly getting sexually excited at the concept.
I truly believed that the droid factory's were completely automatized, and that the only organic there were for maintenance or security, it seemed more efficient
never let a droid lead projects of building mord dorids, u get hk rebeliosn and shit
@@dylanram4653 i mean, yeah i know that is common, but with a B1 in charge i would be more worried about lack of quality or common mistakes being made too often than of a rebellion
@@luckystranger4312 still, b1d have droid sentience, ilevdn if it is a retarted one
I think it depends, like apparently the Geonosians had this thing where you have to keep them busy or else they slaughter each other out of boredom, why wouldn't you put them to work making droids and stuff?
Sounds like the factories in the US today where instead of the Separatist Council it’s business execs
What factories? Most of them have been outsourced
@@andrewryanwasright not just factories manufacturing plants and production plants like meat packaging
Very much so
Low paying "low skill" "mini" jobs are the new factories. Of the 21 century Western society.
I think you mean Amazon.
How about giving us videos on histories of individual mech worlds? Like Mechis III and Fondor, for example?
2:48 people of culture praise be to the omnisia
One of my favorite subjects
Great video! I'd love to see more of the history of Ord Mantel.
Just when I think I know everything’s both Star Wars this man pulls and UNO reverse and it’s like I’m learning all over against
Amazing as always guys, my go to for star wars lore, incredible quality ❤
Factory worlds , government, and stripping worlds for there natural reasources like theres info and detail it makes you feel like you are there I hope more people would give star wars a chance
I would like to know about the infamous Nar Shadaa
I would personally like to see a miniseries dedicated exclusively to detailing the sith grand plan. Starting with its beginnings under darth bane and following the lineage while also covering what each new dark lord accomplished. Then conclude with a video(s) about how it all came together under Darth Sidious, why and how the clone wars were necessary to complete the plan, and how Palpatine won the support of the galactic public. Youve touched on these topics in other videos but I think a dedicated, comprehensive look at the sith grand plan would be cool.
Honestly now I want a new Star Wars show showing all this. Could focus on a different major Rule of Two Sith in each season, starting with Bane and build up to a season focused on a young Sidious and Plagueis.
I like that when showing examples of a tech world one was a Warhammer 40k Forge World which is basically the same thing. An entire planet converted into a factory
That was holy mars you heritech
2:44 wait I recognize that art
"I wouldn't say freed, more like, under new management." ~the empire
So this is what my Alloy worlds look like in Stellaris, rather depressing.
Well, better build five more for the glory of the Commonwealth of Man. We can not have those pesky Xenos living and breathing now, can we?
No idea why they picked inhabited, sometimes even civilized, planets for something that needed no organics.
Some places were picked at the end of the war due to few options. Others may have been done out of sadism, or perhaps because they had an important resource underground on these planets.
Same reason coal companies pollute nearby neighborhoods. They don't care.
For the GrimDark
Oh wait. Wrong universe.
You'd want an atmosphere since it's harder to keep machines cool in a vacuum, but an oxygen-free environment would be better to avoid oxidation. Otherwise it's probably about location, they needed to be close to resources and/or trade routes, and it's probably better to build them on planets that already had power generation capacity and space ports than to build on an airless world built from scratch. On the other hand, putting them on an uninhabitable world would make it harder for the Republic's meatbag army to assault.
@@kieranh2005 It is the only logical explanation.
I didn't realize Amazon went intergalactic
Fun Fact, CIS stands for confederation of independent states . It is Russia and other former Soviet states. Look it up.
Well, it's "systems" instead of "states", but the allegory still stands.
More like the Confederacy in the US
I love your channel it’s amazing!
Thank you so much!
Appropriate use of the first Forge world of Mars from Warhammer 40k.
First Geetsly's video of the year :)
Excellent video bro
Happy New Year!
Yes!!! More in-depth lore please.
Can't wait until Amazon starts droid production
This topic is more interesting than actual wars in SW and shows that there is almost no civilian rights in their galaxy
wait 2:48 that's Holy Mars not a fucking mech world
Ave Omnisiah!
The Techno Union reminds me of adeptus mechanicus from Warhammer 40k with their mech worlds
I think it would be dope if you did a video on the legends version of the Nothgari
Happy new year
I would love a full episode in the mandalorian for example to be on a factory world
Happy new year y’all, hope it’s a good one!
6:18 looks like a TCW shot
At least the Techno Union knew how to throw a banging rave.
Tambor is a Skumkoan.
Happy new year
( from europe)
Happy new year!
Sounds like Techno Union workers need to unionize
I wish I had an army of droids I would never be alone
*military industrial complex buzzes*
Hey Geetsly's!
You should convert all your videos to podcasts. It would be awesome.
I would like to learn more about Hypori!
Happy New Year, people!
Yeah, these are just industrial muckholes.
Sound much like the real world year 2022!
Why does every single thing that wat tambor does in the shows scar me for life?
Well, at least it wasnt the Imperium of Man's factories.
This almost sounds like WH40k Hive / Forge Worlds.
I pray Jeff Bezos never sees this video... don't want to give him any ideas...
I think it's sick and sad what both parties did to those people in the movie. Trying to own another person is absolutely wrong. goes against everything in the world.
Cats invading Hawaii? Nah! We got space bugs taking over planets as an invasive species!
Techno union is space Amazon
Ironic how the 40k universe has a similar crossover to the star-wars universe...
@2:44
happy new year's tomorrow fellow Star Wars fans!
sounds like amazon warehouses are similar to these droid factories in real life.
Ruthless
I wonder what if the empire would be like if they used battle droids
This is Canon for me!
Any moons turned into environmental impacted complexities of interstellar industries here?
All this just sounds like what if we have senate and representative seats to Amazon
Why wouldn't they just use droids to make other droids, if they want efficiency there would be no better alternative
Thank for this video ct 4342
No problem, cadet!
Sounds like Amazon to me.
2:45
yo, why the fuck is WH40k mars here
Professor Membrane ??
Sounds like nestle
Here's an idea the sith lords after palpatine
Lady Lumiya, Darth Krayt? (And the rest of the One Sith)?
Darth Caedus (Legends' more impressive version of Kylo Ren)?
@@johnquach8821 Don’t even compare that whiny little kid Disney made in a fever dream to the legendary Darth Caedus aka Jacen Solo
Hm, interesting.
Like
But is the Techno Union army at your disposal?
Don’t you love sweat shops! *THIS IS A JOKE*
why not make droids assemble droids... would had been far more reasonable.
So basically just Capitalism
Just take you time on your videos and try to make them entertaining remember quality over quantity
you just select random pics, don't you?
2:47
One he used is of Mars from Warhammer 40K.
Clear republic propaganda!!! The CIS could never do this
China be like
U dnt make .metal with trees so why these horrific capitalistic overlords always ripping up trees. Mfers there are whole desert planets that actually have the minerals needed for metals and tech smh... 😂
You need money, power, land, and materials to make these factories and run them. They'd make use of local resources to be cost efficient. There are sustainable technologies, but those are costly, complex and maintenance intensive. And in the minds of most separatist corporations they'd prefer simple and cheap manufacturing and energy tech that is easier to replace.
Happy New Year!
Amazing as always guys, my go to for star wars lore, incredible quality ❤