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2:48 That’s an image of Mars from Warhammer 40,000. I don’t know if that was an intentional reference and nod to the overlap between the Star Wars and Warhammer fandoms or just a mistake, but seeing it makes me happy either way.
I would like to hear more about Hypori personally. Especially, since it's the battle where Grevious made a big introduction to the Republic, and where the legendary Jedi Sha'Gi met his end. Also, you've mentioned how the Republic finally managed to pull its industries together to finally push back against the Separatists before. So I would love a full video on the topic, maybe discussing the battle or event that led to this, and the first battle after this event where the Republic demonstrated its new industrial might. Also, also, so are we going to get any videos related to the Book of Boba Fett like we did Mandalorian, Clone Wars season 7, and the Bad Batch?
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I like that when showing examples of a tech world one was a Warhammer 40k Forge World which is basically the same thing. An entire planet converted into a factory
I believe some did although the Rebellion did its best to separate itself from Confederacy war criminals, at most using them as privateers rather than allowing them to properly join the Rebellion, taking the most practical course of action when faced with that issue, given fleets of veterans were quite useful to the fledgling Alliance although giving them full membership would have been a major propaganda victory for the Empire who could claim the rebels were nothing more than Separatist war criminals.
@@nickagalidis1845 Yeah, I was just reading about this the other day. They used some Trade Federation ship captains as Privateers after the dissolution of the Imperial Senate. I'm DMing a tabletop game about it next week.
The EU canon is inconsistent on this. Disney prefers to more or less ignore the issue while simultaneously acknowledging that there were a fair number of so-called "Separatist holdouts". However, other materials showed significant chunks of the old Confederate Navy incorporated into the Rebel Alliance, including using several of the iconic 'Lucrehulk' battleships in a diversionary attack which served to draw away the Death Star's supporting fleet to open it up to Wedge's starfighter raid. As for the FFG book it mentions the issue but waffles on giving an answer, stating that the Rebel leadership hasn't made up their mind on whether or not they should incorporate Neimoidians and other former separatists, though it seemed to err on the side of assuming that most Rebels will take any help they can get. Personally, I think it makes sense the Rebels would recruit ex-Separatists, since after the dissolution of the senate and the Death Star destroying Alderaan, the Empire was so widely hated that Imperial propagandists pointing to decades old CIS war crimes would lose a lot of its sting.
This whole talk about the Separatists left me with one question. Why would the Republic wanted to expand into the Mid and the Outer Rims in the first place? If they leave them alone, the Clones Wars might not even happen.
I think it's for a multitude of reasons, but from what I understand it, it's for resources and cheap labour as the core worlds were in need of more space, plus some alien worlds in the outer rim didn't want to be controlled by the human centric core worlds. Plus given the general corruption of the senate meant some worlds just wanted to govern themselves. There's a video by Lore Master titled 'Why the Separatists were the Good Guys in the War' that can explain this better.
@@chocochipjewel I know what the Core Worlds wanted but if the Mid and the Outer Rims said no to them back during the Old Republic, what is going to happen?
@@lerneanlion I don't think any world would've been able to resist if the Republic voted in favour of invading them. Banding together made them stronger, and that's how the CIS were originally made. The corporations' influence came after. Initially it was just a reasonably large group of mid rim and outer rim worlds who stuck together to be free from the Republic
@@chocochipjewel Wait. Are you saying that the Senate is going to go against what the Republic is standing for and invade some independent planets just because they refused the offer to join? A bit too direct if you asked me. The best I can think of is that some senators decided to hire some pirate gangs to harass those planets and the Republic arrived to defend them when they are being contacted by the locals.
I truly believed that the droid factory's were completely automatized, and that the only organic there were for maintenance or security, it seemed more efficient
@@dylanram4653 i mean, yeah i know that is common, but with a B1 in charge i would be more worried about lack of quality or common mistakes being made too often than of a rebellion
I think it depends, like apparently the Geonosians had this thing where you have to keep them busy or else they slaughter each other out of boredom, why wouldn't you put them to work making droids and stuff?
*What if the CIS won?;* During the Clone Wars, Sidious and Dooku got taken out _before_ the endgame when the CIS had been so badly nerfed that the GAR "won"? Both had very close calls and it could have been as simple as the bridge of the Invisible Hand being taken out by a stray shot or a collision before Palps was "rescued", simultaneously killing them both. What would be the result if the war was left to its natural conclusion of a CIS victory and _they won_ without a Sith calling the shots. Would the Galaxy have ended up with something that could even be worse than the Empire?
There's actually a fan work here on RUclips called Revenge of the Clones that takes a look at this idea, as it takes place in an alternate universe where Fives managed to survive long enough for the drug to wear off and convinced the Jedi and his fellow Clones of the truth, and with a little investigation, they eventually took Palpatine and Dooku out on Courascant when they had a secret meeting. Thus, control of the CIS fell to Grevious, who after news on the holonet got out about Palpatine and Dooku manipulating the war, decided fuck it, and dedicated all the CIS resources, at least the ones that weren't completely stuck in battle, to one big final attack on Courascant to end the Jedi and Republic.
An these guys tried to pass themselves out as the good guys... Destroying whole worlds, actually expelling ones they didn't like to fend for themselves, brutal suppression... An being compared with the edge towards being WORSE then the WORST ever in history known evil factions??? Seems Larry the Clone Trooper was the ONLY true good guy in this war... Since Storm Trooper Gary hadn't Graduated yet
I would personally like to see a miniseries dedicated exclusively to detailing the sith grand plan. Starting with its beginnings under darth bane and following the lineage while also covering what each new dark lord accomplished. Then conclude with a video(s) about how it all came together under Darth Sidious, why and how the clone wars were necessary to complete the plan, and how Palpatine won the support of the galactic public. Youve touched on these topics in other videos but I think a dedicated, comprehensive look at the sith grand plan would be cool.
Honestly now I want a new Star Wars show showing all this. Could focus on a different major Rule of Two Sith in each season, starting with Bane and build up to a season focused on a young Sidious and Plagueis.
Factory worlds , government, and stripping worlds for there natural reasources like theres info and detail it makes you feel like you are there I hope more people would give star wars a chance
Some places were picked at the end of the war due to few options. Others may have been done out of sadism, or perhaps because they had an important resource underground on these planets.
You'd want an atmosphere since it's harder to keep machines cool in a vacuum, but an oxygen-free environment would be better to avoid oxidation. Otherwise it's probably about location, they needed to be close to resources and/or trade routes, and it's probably better to build them on planets that already had power generation capacity and space ports than to build on an airless world built from scratch. On the other hand, putting them on an uninhabitable world would make it harder for the Republic's meatbag army to assault.
So this is what my Alloy worlds look like in Stellaris, rather depressing. Well, better build five more for the glory of the Commonwealth of Man. We can not have those pesky Xenos living and breathing now, can we?
I think it's sick and sad what both parties did to those people in the movie. Trying to own another person is absolutely wrong. goes against everything in the world.
U dnt make .metal with trees so why these horrific capitalistic overlords always ripping up trees. Mfers there are whole desert planets that actually have the minerals needed for metals and tech smh... 😂
You need money, power, land, and materials to make these factories and run them. They'd make use of local resources to be cost efficient. There are sustainable technologies, but those are costly, complex and maintenance intensive. And in the minds of most separatist corporations they'd prefer simple and cheap manufacturing and energy tech that is easier to replace.
“Rookie numbers.” -the Adeptus Mechanicus on the atrocities of the Techno Union’s Mech Worlds
All the content on this channel makes the movies far more interesting. Harnessing everything I know to truly understand every moment gives it weight beyond a space-setting soap-opera. It's also interesting looking at parallels with current events. Keep up the awesome work, Geetsly's! Stay snazzy!
I agree.
Seconded
Exactly!!!
Read a book
@@hivemind6292 no u
The Senate holds the most secrets.
The Senate has become the secret
@@geetslys i am the senate
66 likes execute order 66
Yeah you're right, palpatine did have a lot of secrets
Are u sure that the Senate isn't based on Russia? Lol
Separatists: “behold our glorious mech worlds”
The Imperium of man: “oh how cute”
*happy Tech Priest noises*
2:44 be like
Lets burn these Techno Unio technoheretics! Legio Titanica forward!
2:48 That’s an image of Mars from Warhammer 40,000. I don’t know if that was an intentional reference and nod to the overlap between the Star Wars and Warhammer fandoms or just a mistake, but seeing it makes me happy either way.
I would like to hear more about Hypori personally. Especially, since it's the battle where Grevious made a big introduction to the Republic, and where the legendary Jedi Sha'Gi met his end.
Also, you've mentioned how the Republic finally managed to pull its industries together to finally push back against the Separatists before. So I would love a full video on the topic, maybe discussing the battle or event that led to this, and the first battle after this event where the Republic demonstrated its new industrial might.
Also, also, so are we going to get any videos related to the Book of Boba Fett like we did Mandalorian, Clone Wars season 7, and the Bad Batch?
As if Sha'Gi actually met his end instead of getting bored and using 2% of his power to leave for another franchise
Me: **Watches Geestlys videos on old Sith repeat**
My wife hearing 'nads' and 'kuns' every 2minutes and wondering what I'm listening to
I'd actually be shocked if a Corporation wasn't evil.
Too soon
There's no such thing as easy money. In order to be wealthy and successful you have to be kind of a scumbag.
2:44 ah holy mars the best mech world
All hail the Omnissiah
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Geetsly: oh you think so, hold my beer 🍺
Thank you geetsly you guys have made me fall in love with Star Wars again 👍
I like that when showing examples of a tech world one was a Warhammer 40k Forge World which is basically the same thing. An entire planet converted into a factory
That was holy mars you heritech
Since there were Geonosians throughout the mech-worlds I hope this means that the Empire did not kill all of them and that they can repopulate!
This is primarily EU/legends content. Geonosian genocide occurred in Disney Canon.
The only good bugs a dead one!
I like to mash EU/legends with Disney Canon! So I consider this Canon!
Good riddance to the Geonosians. They don't deserve to live.
Emipire gased them to get rid of them
Did any Neimodians join the Rebel Alliance? Or did the Alliance reject them (although the early rebellion might not have had much of a choice)
I think the FFG book Desperate Allies has the answer
I believe some did although the Rebellion did its best to separate itself from Confederacy war criminals, at most using them as privateers rather than allowing them to properly join the Rebellion, taking the most practical course of action when faced with that issue, given fleets of veterans were quite useful to the fledgling Alliance although giving them full membership would have been a major propaganda victory for the Empire who could claim the rebels were nothing more than Separatist war criminals.
@@nickagalidis1845 Yeah, I was just reading about this the other day. They used some Trade Federation ship captains as Privateers after the dissolution of the Imperial Senate. I'm DMing a tabletop game about it next week.
The EU canon is inconsistent on this. Disney prefers to more or less ignore the issue while simultaneously acknowledging that there were a fair number of so-called "Separatist holdouts". However, other materials showed significant chunks of the old Confederate Navy incorporated into the Rebel Alliance, including using several of the iconic 'Lucrehulk' battleships in a diversionary attack which served to draw away the Death Star's supporting fleet to open it up to Wedge's starfighter raid.
As for the FFG book it mentions the issue but waffles on giving an answer, stating that the Rebel leadership hasn't made up their mind on whether or not they should incorporate Neimoidians and other former separatists, though it seemed to err on the side of assuming that most Rebels will take any help they can get. Personally, I think it makes sense the Rebels would recruit ex-Separatists, since after the dissolution of the senate and the Death Star destroying Alderaan, the Empire was so widely hated that Imperial propagandists pointing to decades old CIS war crimes would lose a lot of its sting.
6:18 looks like a TCW shot
This whole talk about the Separatists left me with one question. Why would the Republic wanted to expand into the Mid and the Outer Rims in the first place? If they leave them alone, the Clones Wars might not even happen.
Cheap labor for the short answer
I think it's for a multitude of reasons, but from what I understand it, it's for resources and cheap labour as the core worlds were in need of more space, plus some alien worlds in the outer rim didn't want to be controlled by the human centric core worlds. Plus given the general corruption of the senate meant some worlds just wanted to govern themselves. There's a video by Lore Master titled 'Why the Separatists were the Good Guys in the War' that can explain this better.
@@chocochipjewel I know what the Core Worlds wanted but if the Mid and the Outer Rims said no to them back during the Old Republic, what is going to happen?
@@lerneanlion I don't think any world would've been able to resist if the Republic voted in favour of invading them. Banding together made them stronger, and that's how the CIS were originally made. The corporations' influence came after. Initially it was just a reasonably large group of mid rim and outer rim worlds who stuck together to be free from the Republic
@@chocochipjewel Wait. Are you saying that the Senate is going to go against what the Republic is standing for and invade some independent planets just because they refused the offer to join? A bit too direct if you asked me. The best I can think of is that some senators decided to hire some pirate gangs to harass those planets and the Republic arrived to defend them when they are being contacted by the locals.
I would hate to work at a Droid Factory
It would be soooo bad
I truly believed that the droid factory's were completely automatized, and that the only organic there were for maintenance or security, it seemed more efficient
never let a droid lead projects of building mord dorids, u get hk rebeliosn and shit
@@dylanram4653 i mean, yeah i know that is common, but with a B1 in charge i would be more worried about lack of quality or common mistakes being made too often than of a rebellion
@@luckystranger4312 still, b1d have droid sentience, ilevdn if it is a retarted one
I think it depends, like apparently the Geonosians had this thing where you have to keep them busy or else they slaughter each other out of boredom, why wouldn't you put them to work making droids and stuff?
*What if the CIS won?;* During the Clone Wars, Sidious and Dooku got taken out _before_ the endgame when the CIS had been so badly nerfed that the GAR "won"?
Both had very close calls and it could have been as simple as the bridge of the Invisible Hand being taken out by a stray shot or a collision before Palps was "rescued", simultaneously killing them both.
What would be the result if the war was left to its natural conclusion of a CIS victory and _they won_ without a Sith calling the shots.
Would the Galaxy have ended up with something that could even be worse than the Empire?
I feel like just because of this we need a Star Wars version of what if and have this be one of the very first episodes
Very underrated questions that i never knew i needed answers for.
There's actually a fan work here on RUclips called Revenge of the Clones that takes a look at this idea, as it takes place in an alternate universe where Fives managed to survive long enough for the drug to wear off and convinced the Jedi and his fellow Clones of the truth, and with a little investigation, they eventually took Palpatine and Dooku out on Courascant when they had a secret meeting. Thus, control of the CIS fell to Grevious, who after news on the holonet got out about Palpatine and Dooku manipulating the war, decided fuck it, and dedicated all the CIS resources, at least the ones that weren't completely stuck in battle, to one big final attack on Courascant to end the Jedi and Republic.
@@zexalbrony4799 cant wait to check it out. Cheers happy new year.
@@zealtqwerty3083 Thanks. You too.
I love your channel it’s amazing!
Thank you so much!
Great video! I'd love to see more of the history of Ord Mantel.
2:48 people of culture praise be to the omnisia
How about giving us videos on histories of individual mech worlds? Like Mechis III and Fondor, for example?
Just when I think I know everything’s both Star Wars this man pulls and UNO reverse and it’s like I’m learning all over against
An these guys tried to pass themselves out as the good guys... Destroying whole worlds, actually expelling ones they didn't like to fend for themselves, brutal suppression... An being compared with the edge towards being WORSE then the WORST ever in history known evil factions??? Seems Larry the Clone Trooper was the ONLY true good guy in this war... Since Storm Trooper Gary hadn't Graduated yet
Bezos and his contemporaries are taking notes…
And possibly getting sexually excited at the concept.
I would personally like to see a miniseries dedicated exclusively to detailing the sith grand plan. Starting with its beginnings under darth bane and following the lineage while also covering what each new dark lord accomplished. Then conclude with a video(s) about how it all came together under Darth Sidious, why and how the clone wars were necessary to complete the plan, and how Palpatine won the support of the galactic public. Youve touched on these topics in other videos but I think a dedicated, comprehensive look at the sith grand plan would be cool.
Honestly now I want a new Star Wars show showing all this. Could focus on a different major Rule of Two Sith in each season, starting with Bane and build up to a season focused on a young Sidious and Plagueis.
One of my favorite subjects
I didn't realize Amazon went intergalactic
Happy New Year!
First Geetsly's video of the year :)
Factory worlds , government, and stripping worlds for there natural reasources like theres info and detail it makes you feel like you are there I hope more people would give star wars a chance
I would like to know about the infamous Nar Shadaa
2:44 wait I recognize that art
Happy new year
( from europe)
Happy new year!
Sounds like the factories in the US today where instead of the Separatist Council it’s business execs
What factories? Most of them have been outsourced
@@andrewryanwasright not just factories manufacturing plants and production plants like meat packaging
Very much so
Low paying "low skill" "mini" jobs are the new factories. Of the 21 century Western society.
I think you mean Amazon.
Happy new year
No idea why they picked inhabited, sometimes even civilized, planets for something that needed no organics.
Some places were picked at the end of the war due to few options. Others may have been done out of sadism, or perhaps because they had an important resource underground on these planets.
Same reason coal companies pollute nearby neighborhoods. They don't care.
For the GrimDark
Oh wait. Wrong universe.
You'd want an atmosphere since it's harder to keep machines cool in a vacuum, but an oxygen-free environment would be better to avoid oxidation. Otherwise it's probably about location, they needed to be close to resources and/or trade routes, and it's probably better to build them on planets that already had power generation capacity and space ports than to build on an airless world built from scratch. On the other hand, putting them on an uninhabitable world would make it harder for the Republic's meatbag army to assault.
@@kieranh2005 It is the only logical explanation.
Excellent video bro
Appropriate use of the first Forge world of Mars from Warhammer 40k.
wait 2:48 that's Holy Mars not a fucking mech world
Ave Omnisiah!
This topic is more interesting than actual wars in SW and shows that there is almost no civilian rights in their galaxy
At least the Techno Union knew how to throw a banging rave.
Yes!!! More in-depth lore please.
"I wouldn't say freed, more like, under new management." ~the empire
Can't wait until Amazon starts droid production
The Techno Union reminds me of adeptus mechanicus from Warhammer 40k with their mech worlds
I think it would be dope if you did a video on the legends version of the Nothgari
So this is what my Alloy worlds look like in Stellaris, rather depressing.
Well, better build five more for the glory of the Commonwealth of Man. We can not have those pesky Xenos living and breathing now, can we?
Happy new year y’all, hope it’s a good one!
I would love a full episode in the mandalorian for example to be on a factory world
Ironic how the 40k universe has a similar crossover to the star-wars universe...
@2:44
Hey Geetsly's!
I wish I had an army of droids I would never be alone
*military industrial complex buzzes*
Tambor is a Skumkoan.
Sounds like Techno Union workers need to unionize
Cats invading Hawaii? Nah! We got space bugs taking over planets as an invasive species!
You should convert all your videos to podcasts. It would be awesome.
This is Canon for me!
2:45
yo, why the fuck is WH40k mars here
Happy New Year, people!
Yeah, these are just industrial muckholes.
I would like to learn more about Hypori!
Sound much like the real world year 2022!
Ruthless
I think it's sick and sad what both parties did to those people in the movie. Trying to own another person is absolutely wrong. goes against everything in the world.
Techno union is space Amazon
Why does every single thing that wat tambor does in the shows scar me for life?
sounds like amazon warehouses are similar to these droid factories in real life.
Well, at least it wasnt the Imperium of Man's factories.
I pray Jeff Bezos never sees this video... don't want to give him any ideas...
I wonder what if the empire would be like if they used battle droids
Thank for this video ct 4342
No problem, cadet!
This almost sounds like WH40k Hive / Forge Worlds.
happy new year's tomorrow fellow Star Wars fans!
All this just sounds like what if we have senate and representative seats to Amazon
Any moons turned into environmental impacted complexities of interstellar industries here?
Amazing as always guys, my go to for star wars lore, incredible quality ❤
Why wouldn't they just use droids to make other droids, if they want efficiency there would be no better alternative
Sounds like Amazon to me.
Here's an idea the sith lords after palpatine
Lady Lumiya, Darth Krayt? (And the rest of the One Sith)?
Darth Caedus (Legends' more impressive version of Kylo Ren)?
@@johnquach8821 Don’t even compare that whiny little kid Disney made in a fever dream to the legendary Darth Caedus aka Jacen Solo
Sounds like nestle
But is the Techno Union army at your disposal?
why not make droids assemble droids... would had been far more reasonable.
Hm, interesting.
So basically just Capitalism
Just take you time on your videos and try to make them entertaining remember quality over quantity
Like
Don’t you love sweat shops! *THIS IS A JOKE*
Clear republic propaganda!!! The CIS could never do this
you just select random pics, don't you?
2:47
One he used is of Mars from Warhammer 40K.
China be like
U dnt make .metal with trees so why these horrific capitalistic overlords always ripping up trees. Mfers there are whole desert planets that actually have the minerals needed for metals and tech smh... 😂
You need money, power, land, and materials to make these factories and run them. They'd make use of local resources to be cost efficient. There are sustainable technologies, but those are costly, complex and maintenance intensive. And in the minds of most separatist corporations they'd prefer simple and cheap manufacturing and energy tech that is easier to replace.
Amazing as always guys, my go to for star wars lore, incredible quality ❤
Happy New Year!