i'm literally confused why they would scout girls like yeeun and that one terrible singer in bad boy 😭 like if y'all don't want untalented people then why are they here
I agree! People are frustrating voting for visuals only, but what's even more frustrating is the show making them participate first... Girls with less than a year of training shouldn't join at all.
@user-lr2hh3bv1n Not really. In Runext, they praised Wonhee a lot while she wasn't that good. Yeeun got a lot of screentimes for her "improvements" in the last episode too.
honestly… the judges really haven’t been THAT bad so far. when the panorama team was doing their midpoint evaluation & couldn’t hit the notes i was fully preparing for the judges to scream at them then expect them to be able to sing an entire key higher by the end of the week yet to my surprise… they completely understood, didn’t get mad at all and lowered the key to fit the girls vocal range better. it should be the bare minimum but it’s not so it was nice to see mentors actually being realistic with the girls & actually trying to help them
you're definitely right, i do think they are being 100% realistic...they're actually probably being nice compared to what i'm assuming goes on behind the scenes (***cough***yg calling his idols straight up ugly*****). i prefer the mentoring comments vs the live performance judging. they're so much better in mentor mode lmaoooo but the girls do need to be hit with the reality of the industry. better to get it over & done with now so they can get used to it or learn how to handle it
Really?so cruel?they all know each other..i think they also know that they will compete with each other .Even as viewer,I know there will be elimination. Then you say its cruel?
2:19" nam yuju bursts into tars after losing her part " is she supposd to b happy aftr going from main rapper to a 6 second part? but she still workd hard and slayd that 6 secs
I think for panorama the main vocalist part should have been given to two people. They are going to push this girl until she makes a mistake and just start critizing her. Most of their comments are just how pretty the girls are. Ok ok I get it everyone there is pretty and cute. Stage presence and making gestures is a talent but not visuals. Them telling that one girl that she is short. Sorry but if I am 1,55m and am standing next to someone who is 1,70m I will look short no matter what I do. The only judge I like so far is the strict guy.
No cause louder! As soon as I saw that jungeun got all the "high note" I was sooo confused, like why don't they share it so it could have been way better ?? She is Indeed a main vocal material but we're talking about panorama ??? Not whistle. Mnet really should clean their fucking ears and eyes it's exhausting
@AghaseMirai let's calm down a little, jungeun sang almost half of the song, it's not good for her voice at all, especially a song as hard as panorama, it would be a lot better if minsol or koko to get one chorus line, less burden on the main vocal
as others have said, panorama was a set up. Its super high and you need multiple strong vocalists. The production team was like fk that group that gets that one.
@@parkvalerie8197 Exactly! Monika and 24 literally called out how being pretty and going viral online does not translate when some of these girls come on survival shows. Monika straight up told Yeeun (I think that’s her name) that she’s pretty but that’s it and asked her why she decided to join this show if her skills are lacking. It may have been harsh but it’s want she needed to hear and she did improve in her next stage. So idk why people criticize the judges, I actually think they’re doing a great job seeing how many groups are getting criticized for just being pretty or good dancers but lacking singing skills.
@@myathegrandma Monika and Leejung are literally just the female versions of the Iland 1 judges. They should thank the judges instead for calling out what they're lacking at that made her improve herself for the next performance.
These fans just can't handle criticism when they're watching girls fighting for their debut spot. The judges are doing a great job and this should be the standard for survival shows.
some of the comments from the judges were lowkey kinda harsh and borderline offensive, even if they were needed. this episode also solidified who i was and wasn't going to vote for, if that makes sense?
I wish the judges were more hand on with the trainees, like I want them to actively help the girls while they were practicing and stuff. And whistle was the weakest stage so far imo
what were the producers thinking when they chose panorama lmaooooooooo what do they expect from already made-judges-disappointed girls lol a perfectly performed song that is in a very high key??
Y'all probably didn't even watch the I of I-land 1 and it shows lol, can't handle constructive criticism and them complain about the idols not improving. Tht's mostly the issue with most of the female survival shows these days which just makes it very boring too watch and low on quality, u can already pick the debut line just by looking at their visuals and R U next is a perfect example of this disastrous stereotype and now the girl's are getting hate for their performance because they weren't even ready to debut and didn't even got proper training and made them debut just for their "ripe age" yikes... The fact tht people criticized yunah for being 20 while K debuted in 25. Ewww
So many girls are talent but fans voting for lingling, Yeeun etc are the reason talented ppl aren't debuting. Fuko, jeemin, jeongeun, salang, gyuri and many more are soooo talent and should definitely debut. If ppl stopped being baised and only payed attention to talent and not who they like talented groups would actually exist and not be so rare
Damm some crybabies are really crying over judges's harsh comment as if their idol life are going to be all sunshine and rainbow. I absolutely agree with everything that judges's said... No need to sugarcoat it...its a high time we have realized that how this sympathy bs has ruined overall ecosystem and priority of talent since third gen. Idols can't even hold a 2 min songs ... expressionless, lazy dancing etc etc. if you are auditioning for show like this you need to be prepared.... Don't expect the pity party. And those crying mosquitos who are saying they are young let ne let you their parents should have stopped them from going to show like this at the first place.... Now as they are here they can't even digest the Truth..... Don't make me laugh 🗿🗿🗿🗿
Like, they pounce on idols for having no expressions and weak stage presence yet they can't handle watching mentors ACTUALLY mentoring the participants.
the judges didnt say anything wrong lmao, that jiwon girl,,,, she has nothing going on for her therefore the remarks. they're not lying and definitely shouldn't be sugarcoating things. if she wants to debut she needs to step it up. otherwise why sign up for a show? y'all saying they are kids is just ridiculous,, why do this then if you're a kid? also better get called out now than later when actual haters comment after debut. All these hypocrites saying they are kids need to realise they are the ones who criticise groups like le sserafim when they dont think they are up to par. They are also kids are they not? for now kang jiwon is at the bottom of thr pyramid 100% lingling definitely not star material lol, has 0 expressions no stage presence and no particular skill better than the rest, all the malaysians are just voting bc she's the only malaysian. Not that its wrong but the votes are not deserved imo.
The jiyoon girl is main vocalist yes? I see drama performance and she was clearly the best vocalist, she wasn't nasal while the rest were pitchy and nasal. Especially that girl with bangs, she sounded like a muffled cat.
honestly the judges comments might seem harsh, but I agree with most of what they said, they were quite constructive!!
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@@davidjones7493Where are the parents protecting their 15 y/o?
They actually spoke the truth about Kang Jiwon, since the audition stage I wondered how she got into the show, girl has nothing
i'm literally confused why they would scout girls like yeeun and that one terrible singer in bad boy 😭 like if y'all don't want untalented people then why are they here
I agree! People are frustrating voting for visuals only, but what's even more frustrating is the show making them participate first... Girls with less than a year of training shouldn't join at all.
i swear they picked like 12-15 good-ok singers, and the rest were just visual or a random draw lmao
@user-lr2hh3bv1n Not really. In Runext, they praised Wonhee a lot while she wasn't that good. Yeeun got a lot of screentimes for her "improvements" in the last episode too.
@user-lr2hh3bv1nso true
@user-lr2hh3bv1nwdym iroha slipping is due to another contestant’s wardrobe malfunction, not her fault at all. Just stop blaming iroha for that case
honestly… the judges really haven’t been THAT bad so far. when the panorama team was doing their midpoint evaluation & couldn’t hit the notes i was fully preparing for the judges to scream at them then expect them to be able to sing an entire key higher by the end of the week yet to my surprise… they completely understood, didn’t get mad at all and lowered the key to fit the girls vocal range better. it should be the bare minimum but it’s not so it was nice to see mentors actually being realistic with the girls & actually trying to help them
you're definitely right, i do think they are being 100% realistic...they're actually probably being nice compared to what i'm assuming goes on behind the scenes (***cough***yg calling his idols straight up ugly*****). i prefer the mentoring comments vs the live performance judging. they're so much better in mentor mode lmaoooo but the girls do need to be hit with the reality of the industry. better to get it over & done with now so they can get used to it or learn how to handle it
Tell them to choose a partner and be all besties with each other but don't tell them you will be competing against each other until later. So cruel.
Really?so cruel?they all know each other..i think they also know that they will compete with each other .Even as viewer,I know there will be elimination. Then you say its cruel?
@@randombyme3844
Ikr like ofc they're gonna compete against each other eventually
the bad boy dance break gave me runext flashbacks
2:19" nam yuju bursts into tars after losing her part " is she supposd to b happy aftr going from main rapper to a 6 second part? but she still workd hard and slayd that 6 secs
FUKO LOOKED LIKE A RED VELVET MEMBER IN THE PERFORMANCE, UM JIWON, LINGLING AND FUKO SLAYED THE DAY
Looks just like Irene istggg
Giving them panorama for like their second test was EVIL. Just straight up diabolical atp…
I think for panorama the main vocalist part should have been given to two people. They are going to push this girl until she makes a mistake and just start critizing her.
Most of their comments are just how pretty the girls are. Ok ok I get it everyone there is pretty and cute. Stage presence and making gestures is a talent but not visuals.
Them telling that one girl that she is short. Sorry but if I am 1,55m and am standing next to someone who is 1,70m I will look short no matter what I do.
The only judge I like so far is the strict guy.
No cause louder! As soon as I saw that jungeun got all the "high note" I was sooo confused, like why don't they share it so it could have been way better ?? She is Indeed a main vocal material but we're talking about panorama ??? Not whistle. Mnet really should clean their fucking ears and eyes it's exhausting
@@inzaissoumaila4975 Jungeun sounds very nasal, don't get the hype for her.
@@deleyderismynamer i will not stand for jungeun slander please leave the exit is that way.
@@deleyderismynamer I mean, she's the only one that can become a main vocalist so...
@AghaseMirai let's calm down a little, jungeun sang almost half of the song, it's not good for her voice at all, especially a song as hard as panorama, it would be a lot better if minsol or koko to get one chorus line, less burden on the main vocal
personally think yuju literally is the combination of soojin and garam
as others have said, panorama was a set up. Its super high and you need multiple strong vocalists. The production team was like fk that group that gets that one.
I see lingling has a really large fanbase but I don't really see much potential in her?? Idk on which base they like her
YOU DIDDDD NOTTTT just pull that Requiem for a Dream reference omgggg my eyes 🤦🏻♀️😂😂😂😂😂😂i want to unsee that lmaooooo
Nana ate when her pair changed her mind abt the songs.
yuiko was literally so… manipulative? like girlll
@@iphone.01-01 yeah def rubbed me the wrong way
I feel sorry for Kang Jiwon yeah she's bad but her skills can develop! the unecessary hate is not it
The judges are only focusing on visuals and it's irritating me
Tell me you didn't watch Iland without telling me you didn't watch Iland
@@parkvalerie8197 Exactly! Monika and 24 literally called out how being pretty and going viral online does not translate when some of these girls come on survival shows. Monika straight up told Yeeun (I think that’s her name) that she’s pretty but that’s it and asked her why she decided to join this show if her skills are lacking. It may have been harsh but it’s want she needed to hear and she did improve in her next stage. So idk why people criticize the judges, I actually think they’re doing a great job seeing how many groups are getting criticized for just being pretty or good dancers but lacking singing skills.
@@myathegrandma Monika and Leejung are literally just the female versions of the Iland 1 judges. They should thank the judges instead for calling out what they're lacking at that made her improve herself for the next performance.
These fans just can't handle criticism when they're watching girls fighting for their debut spot. The judges are doing a great job and this should be the standard for survival shows.
some of the comments from the judges were lowkey kinda harsh and borderline offensive, even if they were needed. this episode also solidified who i was and wasn't going to vote for, if that makes sense?
for me
Saebi
Jungeun
Jeemin
Sarang
Jiyoon
Fuko
i only have 3 contestants I want. Jungeun, Jeemin, and Saebi. Some bonuses are Fuko, Yuju, and if her attitude towards being an idol improves, Jiyoon.
@10kwithnovids-yz6ek I think Jiyoons attitude isn't that bad they just dramatize it. I like all your picks although in not sure about Yuju
sujung and yui were my favorite performers in whistle yes!
There arent good dancers here except sujung. They are just literally doing the bare minimum
I wish the judges were more hand on with the trainees, like I want them to actively help the girls while they were practicing and stuff. And whistle was the weakest stage so far imo
Le Yung out there saying Mai can't sing just like Ye Eun 😭
exactly ! stan odd eye circle and artms
what were the producers thinking when they chose panorama lmaooooooooo what do they expect from already made-judges-disappointed girls lol a perfectly performed song that is in a very high key??
Yui !!! 💛🔥
5:28 AGREE
yuju looks like fu yaning ngl
istg if choi jungeun doesnt debut I won't stan a survival reality show ever again.
*I agree w the judges tbh*
where do i watcg
Honestly it makes no sense to boycott loona even after their disbandment and stream the other blackberry groups
Panorama is the best performance ✨
Y'all probably didn't even watch the I of I-land 1 and it shows lol, can't handle constructive criticism and them complain about the idols not improving. Tht's mostly the issue with most of the female survival shows these days which just makes it very boring too watch and low on quality, u can already pick the debut line just by looking at their visuals and R U next is a perfect example of this disastrous stereotype and now the girl's are getting hate for their performance because they weren't even ready to debut and didn't even got proper training and made them debut just for their "ripe age" yikes... The fact tht people criticized yunah for being 20 while K debuted in 25. Ewww
What is the intro music?
i wanted to know your opinion on koko
yall yall... YUJU LOOKS LIKE SOOJIN TRUST ME
lee jeong is giving lip j in boys planet. why you so obsessed with them
Because she's a judge and a mentor for the show???
Kang jiwon is good vocalist but she lacks of confidence
So many girls are talent but fans voting for lingling, Yeeun etc are the reason talented ppl aren't debuting. Fuko, jeemin, jeongeun, salang, gyuri and many more are soooo talent and should definitely debut. If ppl stopped being baised and only payed attention to talent and not who they like talented groups would actually exist and not be so rare
My top picks
Jungeun
Fuko
Mai
Sujung
Yuju
Saebi
Sarang
Damm some crybabies are really crying over judges's harsh comment as if their idol life are going to be all sunshine and rainbow. I absolutely agree with everything that judges's said... No need to sugarcoat it...its a high time we have realized that how this sympathy bs has ruined overall ecosystem and priority of talent since third gen. Idols can't even hold a 2 min songs ... expressionless, lazy dancing etc etc. if you are auditioning for show like this you need to be prepared.... Don't expect the pity party. And those crying mosquitos who are saying they are young let ne let you their parents should have stopped them from going to show like this at the first place.... Now as they are here they can't even digest the Truth..... Don't make me laugh 🗿🗿🗿🗿
what a weird person
Fans baby trainees and idols WAY too much
Like, they pounce on idols for having no expressions and weak stage presence yet they can't handle watching mentors ACTUALLY mentoring the participants.
@@domilyrics2218I mean most of the people on the show were literally teenagers 💀
Nah man, it's on camera so insults are less in comparison to trainees
A few survival shows like these just ways for extra income even before debut....
Lingling should leave imo
yuju looks like soojin and garam istg
Can you only support or is there a different site where you have to vote?
mnet plus app
As far as I know, voting and supports can only be done on mnet+. I’ve only seen the voting open once tho
the judges didnt say anything wrong lmao, that jiwon girl,,,, she has nothing going on for her therefore the remarks. they're not lying and definitely shouldn't be sugarcoating things. if she wants to debut she needs to step it up. otherwise why sign up for a show? y'all saying they are kids is just ridiculous,, why do this then if you're a kid? also better get called out now than later when actual haters comment after debut. All these hypocrites saying they are kids need to realise they are the ones who criticise groups like le sserafim when they dont think they are up to par. They are also kids are they not? for now kang jiwon is at the bottom of thr pyramid 100%
lingling definitely not star material lol, has 0 expressions no stage presence and no particular skill better than the rest, all the malaysians are just voting bc she's the only malaysian. Not that its wrong but the votes are not deserved imo.
Glad someone understands that lingling is not it
Iland2jeeminjungeun
The jiyoon girl is main vocalist yes? I see drama performance and she was clearly the best vocalist, she wasn't nasal while the rest were pitchy and nasal. Especially that girl with bangs, she sounded like a muffled cat.
i dont get the ling ling hype.....