Man... I really envy game developers for FNAF & DDLC. The fact that they created such a unique game with lore and interesting game mechanics just makes me go *WOW* . Also, I appreciate Mat's time and effort in creating these game theory videos for us to watch. (in short, they are really great games)
Let's just appreciate how "pulling a William Afton" is part of Game Theory terminology. I can't help but mention how fascinating and how deep the DDLC lore goes.
There are enough lonely touch starved weebs on this planet that Monika could easily find someone who'd welcome her without a second thought Even not mentioning the weebs who legitimately fantasize about having a clingy yandere gf or the monika fans (that would probably cling to her more than she'd cling to them), there are enough lonely weebs that would welcome anyone who'd make them feel loved (even if it's someone who is mildly crazy like Monika) that she really wouldn't have an issue finding someone
@@wheatum730 I think Monika is trying to figure out (Just like how Matt has explained) on how she can make a full use of the VM models that were built by the team. In this case, her Sim has failed but she still has control to most of the programs (and Ive as well)
Something Monika says goes with this too when you’re in the end with her. “You remember that book you were reading with Yuri?” “Portrait of… whatever it was called- It’s funny, because I’m pretty sure that book-“ “Ah, actually I don’t think I should be talking about this”
Project Libitina tease. Still no news on it. [Edit: I'm an absolute moron for not having watched through the video before posting this, as I now realize that the entirety of the new content is itself all more "news" towards the project.]
@@davidklemen5264she has much more into her character than that,yknow... I think sitting through her dialogue in act 3 and actually reading her topics will make you learn more about her.
Lol Scott watching the video in the beginning must have been like “I’m coming out of retirement and adding another 2 games and 3 books to shut him up.”
breaking news:local disgruntled retired game developer "usurping" game development studio working on game for his ip, saying qoute "you wont get it done on time"
Something that I like is that Monika is the only one who stares directly at you. The other ones look bashfully of to the side even if there eyes look at you Monikas the only one who looks directly at the camera with her entire body and head.
Same, was recommended to me on steam and just decided to play through it. Started the game at midnight and finished it all in one sitting at 5am, great game.
Question: how did you download it? Can monika actually hack/control your own computer? And finally. If she can break the 4th wall, why can’t she realize that she would have been picked anyway from the start until she destroyed the entire server world stuck in a classroom without your “family” or girls who don’t mind you being with her?
I honestly really like the workaround they came up with when bringing the game over to console. Having a file folder sounds a little dumb at first but the way they implemented it was honestly really cool, especially with all the stuff they added to it
This idea just came to me as I was watching this. I don’t think it has an actual meaning from what team Salvato thought, but it’s interesting at the very least. In the end of the first DDLC, you get an ending song made by Monika with her voice, or we think so. But isn’t it weird that she has a voice when she only lives in a visual novel and does nothing but communicate through writing. Maybe that has something to do with the possession thing. I don’t know, but hopefully this was helpful.
Nah I think it's probably because she herself does have a voice that simply isn't heard in the "game" that "Team Salvato" (in-universe) made. It is a simulation after all. So either she has a voice, or she has a perception of what her voice sounds like, and is able to create one to match. If she was doing that as Ive, it would sound like Ive. And from what I found searching it up, Ive is a masculine name of French origins. (Also Ive may be referred to in the masculine iirc but I don't remember 100%.) Plus, ehen she sings the song, she's still inside the game and it's implied that she's nuking everything in that instance of VM1. But it is just that - only one instance of VM1. And while data from Monika's memories of VM2 is being shared with VM1 Monikas, it isn't implied that multiple instances of VM1 Monikas share memory or consciousness. So it seems to me that there are multiple VM1 Monikas, meaning the one that we see in the original DDLC may be a different instance or copy. There's no guarantee that we're playing as Ive in that game.
@@vision4860 I mean perhaps Monika managed to possess someone else, or her many different versions possess other people. Again I said earlier that I don’t think that it’s this specific idea that Dan Salvato had when he made the song. It could just be a way to have a nice ending. However it’s just a thing to think about. Or should I say, that’s just a theory, A GAME THEORY 😏😋
Ive Laster isn't a real name, it's an anagram for "relatives" and "versatile." I'm pretty sure all dev. names are anagrams too with just how similar they are, starting with 3 letters
@@chubbychicken2412 An anagram is a word or phrase that's formed by rearranging the letters of another word or phrase. I mean, this definition was really easy to find since it is in Internet, but glad I could help anyways :,D
I will always sympathize with Monika, imagine finding out your intire life is just a computer game, and the person your inlove with is never an option because he can't chose you.
Steph is such a good voice actor. I wonder if she would ever considered being one? I can definitely see her making it big; her voice is amazing and very flexible.
I mean did you even read the title or look at the thumbnail it was kinda obvious plus we all know that MATPAT's past "Final answer!" FNAF stuff hasn't been the final answer but he's probably done a large portion of finding FNAF lore and sharing it with us so I can't show him any disrespect.
@@arceeam3458 it wouldvebeen cool if he titled it and thumbnailed it as a fnaf video and then had the first part (Like he did) talk about fnaf and then monika took over - but youtube tos says otherwise since itd be considered clickbait (i believe)
I'm just saying, when you unlock the secret "Candy Hearts" song not only is it creepy, but you hear what sounds like someone (or more?) being tortured. Could be a node to the end of the theory and perhaps they need to save the Dokis?
The thought of Monika escaping is either really awesome or really terrifying. If Monika already escaped the game she lives in and controls Ive, she might be able to affect other devices and she could even appear in our world.
I am also married…. I would be a little worried for the sake of my husband. When I played though, I initially tried to choose Monika first. (Having no idea what was going to happen in the game.) She seemed the most interesting initially. Now I am scarred for life.
@@CuteKnight98 Well as you know now, you can't really go for the Monika route. And because there is no love route for Monika, that is why Monika went self aware and deleted everyone else.
There's still something bugging me tho. Towards the end of the original DDLC, after deleting Monika, we had to play with a world without Monika and Sayori suddenly was the one who was aware that she was in a game and had control over it. But why? Why does she suddenly gained control? That's a part that hasn't been mentionned and that still confuses me to this day.
Yeah, I've been wondering this as well. I first assumed that the entity who assumed the role of "club president" was the one who became "enlightened" but in plus, it seems that the devs made Monika specifically as the one with more access more so than whoever is club president, so then how does Sayori get that elevated access?
I guess because the whole world revolves around the literature club and with no President, there is no club, so in order for the world to exist, sayori is forcibly made to the the president (probably bc she's the second one who joined the club) so that the world can exist
@@almareyes4596 Im not sure I completely agree...Unless Monika itself is like a title more than a name, and whoever is president, is therefore "Monika" I still think it's weird that Sayori becoming aware is not mentioned at all in plus, and how definitive they make it that Monika is aware on purpose, by their design. Maybe you're right though, it's a possibility
Also when you delete monika early in the 2017 game, all her "knowledge" goes into sayori who ended up killing herself due to the horror visions she received
I mean I’m sorry but I think danganronpa already has multiple theories on it and I think don’t even think there’s anything to be explained anymore. The deeper meaning has been drawn out. The only thing he could really do is speculate if tsumugi was lying in drv3
I wish I could see Mat’s reaction when he realises that the TEST VM has thousands of lines of randomly generated dialogue that provides details about Project Libitina which he needs for the theory
Wait, there's 3 VMs? I thought they were only two of it. In terms of the RNG of dialogues that you've explained, was it the same as when Monika drags us (or Ive in this case) to the classroom in space, talking for a long time before we deleted her?
@@alaskanbullworm1272 Potential Spoilers: VM 1 = Doki Doki Literature Club VM 2 = Project Libitina Control Group = Side Stories Test VM = A "window" into VM2 that shows one of 56 randomly generated lines of text from Project Libitina. (unlocked at 100%) People are still working to piece together everything from Test VM. Some of the phrases look like they should go together but nobody has a full picture.
Remember one of that rare phrase before the game that replaces the psycological horror warning: "PM died for this". One of the guys that send e-mails during DDLC+ is called Paula Miner.
PM is a reference to Project M, a super smash bros brawl mod made by Dan Salvato. The development of Project M had stopped in order for dan to actually make DDLC.
Actually in the side stories we do exist we just arent there when its happening Sayori hints at this because when Monika tells her to pretend to be a normal passerby sayori says "Literature is stuupid! I'm going to the anime club!" And she says "i was just thinking of a friend of mine." So we actually do exist in the side stories
@@Nomadsrevenge No, cause in one of the other side stories, she says that she didn't want to go the anime club because she says that the people there are just a bunch of weird boys or something like that, and also Sayori didn't even know Natsuki before she first joined the club
@@Nomadsrevenge Sayori didn't know Natsuki at that point. MC is the most logical answer unless she's talking about a background character, which I kinda doubt. Also, Nat wouldn't call Literature stupid, since Manga is Literature.
Honestly in the beginning I was convinced that the developers ACTUALLY gave Monika access to doki doki but then I realized its just a game XD they made it look so real! Edit: Ayo 2k likes!? Wish I had that many sub's qwq
Pat: 'talks about fnaf' Me: 'reads the title agian' Pat: 'pat still talking about fnaf' Me: I didnt sign up for this shi- 'Manika had entered the chat' Me: YYyYYYYyAaAaaAaaaaaA
He did them offscreen. As he explained, there wasn't any content relating to the game lore in them and it would've taken a long time to get through them, considering that Steph isn't doing gtlive anymore
Yeah he told us during the last theorycrafting DDLC+ that he did a whole bunch of stuff behind the scenes, including all the side stories. With how many hours it took and how busy Steph is doing it on stream was just asking too much :/ He got to 85% during that video and said he'd try to do one more before the end so we'll see if we get another before the second of the Game Theory videos.
I can't be the only one who's still processing that they made a whole other desktop compete with files, music and other stuff 10 minutes into the video.
@@wizeon.6309 Project Melee is a mod for Super Smash Bros (SSB) Brawl that rebalances the game and makes it more like SSB Melee. I haven't followed the project in quite a while though.
The side stories were really wholesome .They helped me to learn a few important moral values,or remind me of a few of them.I am glad that I can also learn about the rest of the story as a whole,through these videos.I enjoy seeing the little pieces of evidence coming together.
I just LOVE the amount of detail put into the intro credits with episodes like these. I bet nobody even noticed the books on the shelves having their titles changed!
well in the gtlive streams she always voice acted her. i really suggest you watch their playthrough if you didnt its soo fun and charming and brings you back to a simpler time
I can’t believe I never watched these before, this deep lore is SO fascinating to me. And I really want to see a game or something that sees Monika saving the other timeline.
I think that the idea of Monika escaping works, but not necessarily as presented here. The main issue with this is that when you reset VM1, Monika is reset with it too, or at the very least, a new Monika is initialized to go with the new instance of VM1 (all 4 entities/characters are given new indentifying numbers when "restored"). If the Monika from VM1 were to have the potential to escape, then there would be no reason to believe it wouldn't happen any give instance. Since they mention reseting VM1 many times, you would end up with many Monikas have had escaped, which doesn't really make much sence. Where this idea could work is if you were to say that the Monika from the control VM were to escape. It wouldn't be unreasonable to say that the control VM would never have been reset the same way as VM1, as you would not expect the control value of the expeiment to change. Furthermore, in "Meeting notes 3" they say they are to compare the end of the control VM to the start of VM1. Left neglected, without effort put into hiding Monika elevated privileges, the Monika of the control VM could potentially end up like the Monika of VM1. Since they only really care about what happens up to the point of where VM1 starts, you could say that they would stop caring after that point, leaving that Monika to have that same epiphany but just under possibly different circumstances. I overall don't think there's sufficient evidence for the whole idea of Monika escaping, but it's not too crazy to consider. Something else to consider is the significance of "Stories of Friendship and Literature" starting with a segment of "Dreams of Love and Literature", a detail unique compared to the other songs of the side stories. It's probably just a stylistic choice (especially when thinking about it as the credits for the entirety of the game), but you never know
I've waited 4-ish years for another one of these game theories about DDLC. I can wait for another 4 years or so to come. Hopefully, Dan Salvato has more in stock for us about DDLC and it's plots. I'm soooooo interested!
I'm not sure if this has already been established - I'm not completely up to date with DDLC lore - but I wonder if Monika has anything to do with the book Yuri is reading? Maybe she created it as a way to try and warn her friends about whats happening in VM2?
Huh, maybe you're right - we've established that her book may have something to do with project libitina but what if she reads between the lines and sees something to do with the "simulation" -y'think Monika's trying to make her friends self aware too?
Makes sense. If the memory space is being shared she might have been hoping by giving her the story in VM1 she might remember it in time on a VM2 reset.
Makes sense. And I think it works. Perhaps, Yuri reads the story to her friends and then a reset happens. In the story, them being sent of to be a part of Project Libitina happened, and so the girls escape the cane before anything bad happenes. Yuri however, sacrifices herself to get the others out. Monika, having known that she saved the other girls, wipes their and their parents memories of being in the camp and knowing each other in the first place. When Yuri is realised, Monika wipes her memory of the other girls, but not of being in the camp. Then the events of DDLC play out.
I appreciate the whole “Monkia is a hero” plot but I’m literally confused as to HOW Monkia managed to make the stand-in character for us *a t t r a c t i v e* Edit : MOM IM FAMOUSSS
Just wanted to point out, in case it wasn't already made clear, I'm not sure, but anyways, that "MARLA" entity from before, they also reference it in the email at 14:12, the "Monitor Adjacent Runtime-Level Access", just like how they got Monika's name.
Man, what would Ive's character file look like? Has anyone tried that yet? Adding an Ive character file to the game? I feel like something could begin if you do.
It'd be cool if you could do that in the og DDLC, but you can't. That being said, I think Ive is in the game....as the playable character. The personality matches and itd be a perfect, elegant way for Monika to hide that he's in the game. Aside from the concept art, we have never seen the main character. What if that's Ive, perfectly hidden, unable to be found.
@@farted161 very well could be. It could also explain why he acts so distinctly ...calm in act 2. He sees some shocking stuff, but he's also numb to a lot of it too. By becoming the PC, he can interact with the world, unknowingly becoming a pawn in Monika's long term plan
It's really funny to hear Steph just killing the Monika voice, and having MatPat go all "Just Monika" on us again. Seeing as how MatPat really did choose Just Monika to spend his life with 🤣
Imagine having both 'FNAF: Help Wanted' and DDLC on your computer and at some point you find a text file that's literally just Monika and William talking about how they can improve their methods of controlling people... I think it's a cool concept. And, of course, we have Monika probably teaching Senpai from fnf how to control real life people.
What's dumb is when I first played this, I was kinda sad that I couldn't impress Monika or spend time with her. Guess I got what I wanted.
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@@tennojiberri Yeah but its not real or cannon. Its not the real Monika.
@@viennasavage9110 but she was never real in the first place
same
Nadwe?
Man... I really envy game developers for FNAF & DDLC. The fact that they created such a unique game with lore and interesting game mechanics just makes me go *WOW* . Also, I appreciate Mat's time and effort in creating these game theory videos for us to watch. (in short, they are really great games)
Yeah
Being envious isn't the best
@@BigGreen343 it is needed tho
@@BigGreen343 a great motivator tho
yeah they are pretty cool
Let's just appreciate how "pulling a William Afton" is part of Game Theory terminology. I can't help but mention how fascinating and how deep the DDLC lore goes.
No just monika
@@milktea6676 8 seconds ago:>
He somehow manage to tie it to fnaf
Isn't this tiring for you? (I was saying this comment in a joking manner guys, not in a serious manner)
OMG ITS YOU HELLO
Can we just appreciate that Team Salvato includes the SOUNDTRACK into their lore hunting?!
Yeah like who tf thinks about that and which theorist even solves it
XD
who'd ever look there for lore? (accept matpat)
Monika has been lingering in my head since I first played the game and I'm terrified to this day
@Savetion Ⅸ wtf is wrong with you
@Savetion Ⅸ NADWE is will freak out
@Savetion Ⅸ and you will too
MAYPAT HAS A FAT WIFE
Just Monika
If Monika gets out she'll be surprised how many people would legit welcome her with open arms
yep
I'm one of them don't give a sheesh
There are enough lonely touch starved weebs on this planet that Monika could easily find someone who'd welcome her without a second thought
Even not mentioning the weebs who legitimately fantasize about having a clingy yandere gf or the monika fans (that would probably cling to her more than she'd cling to them), there are enough lonely weebs that would welcome anyone who'd make them feel loved (even if it's someone who is mildly crazy like Monika) that she really wouldn't have an issue finding someone
@@dustinm2717 i quite like monika honestly.
I really like chatting with her.It's fun.
There'd also people who would react like Monika is some sort of evil substance that'd kill you if you got close
“Not only did the game developers become part of the lore, but YOU are also a part of the lore”
*Trust nobody not even yourself*
**Points gun at self**
I'm doubting my existence 💀
Now it is time to start asking yourself the big questions: what do I have to give to the lore
Are you sure about that
@@joeymarks8957 bro it's a Rick roll, I can sense it 🧠
Goddamnit, Monika. WE WERE SO CLOSE TO *FINALLY* SOLVING FNAF. **FINALLY!**
Don't blame me for MatPats messiness
@@Riv-r2x get ur [[BIG SHOT]]
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How does it feel to be stalked Monika? XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD
*MONIKA!*
@@melsgamingsessions8371 Who's your favourite out of the four girls
@@Riv-r2x Either you or Yuri!
So Doki Doki + is a game about people who believe they are in a simulation and create a simulation to figure out if they are in a simulation.
Then escape the simulation to save other simulations from the creators of the simulations
@@LegendaryFenrir which the said "simulation" has failed (Original DDLC Act II)
Pretty creepy, huh?
simulating a simulation in a simulation?
@@wheatum730 I think Monika is trying to figure out (Just like how Matt has explained) on how she can make a full use of the VM models that were built by the team. In this case, her Sim has failed but she still has control to most of the programs (and Ive as well)
is it just me, I feel old looking at the old DDLC theories
What’s up checkmark?
Nah same here
Eyo Sukie
Same
Honestly same, also I love your content Sukie!
Something Monika says goes with this too when you’re in the end with her. “You remember that book you were reading with Yuri?” “Portrait of… whatever it was called- It’s funny, because I’m pretty sure that book-“ “Ah, actually I don’t think I should be talking about this”
Yes!! I remember that
just finish the game.....yes the book with eyes
Project Libitina tease. Still no news on it. [Edit: I'm an absolute moron for not having watched through the video before posting this, as I now realize that the entirety of the new content is itself all more "news" towards the project.]
Portrait of markov i think
Edit: oh my gosh wow i can't believe i have this many likes thank you so much:)
"So listen up, boy, or else pornagraphy starring your mother will be the SECOND worst thing to happen to you today."
I like how matpat describes the other club members as their personality while monika is basically just called the club leader
And that's when I realised MatPat is not a lore youtube channel but is someone that works for a lore youtube channel with another name.
@zerocool4159 Basically I thought MatPat's channel was called MatPat and not Game Theorists.
@zerocool4159 Np. I just give attention to my notifications that's all.
Well the only character trait of monika is that she plays piano and is obsessed with us, like the other characters. Because she's programmed that way.
@@davidklemen5264she has much more into her character than that,yknow... I think sitting through her dialogue in act 3 and actually reading her topics will make you learn more about her.
"This will be my final fnaf theory...."
Monika and security breach be like - ha ha lore go brrrrrr......
@@joeymarks8957 no.
Stop
IKR
Deez nuts
Lol Scott watching the video in the beginning must have been like “I’m coming out of retirement and adding another 2 games and 3 books to shut him up.”
Time to reset the timeline
LOL
breaking news:local disgruntled retired game developer "usurping" game development studio working on game for his ip, saying qoute "you wont get it done on time"
Yeah lol, but please xplain that mat pat….
@@michaelaguilera6946 legend of Zelda developers in a nutshell
Can we stop to appreciate how fitting Steph's voice is to Monika? lol
Fr
Ikr
THAT WAS STEPHS VOICE???
Maybe almost too fitting
JUST MONIKA
Something that I like is that Monika is the only one who stares directly at you. The other ones look bashfully of to the side even if there eyes look at you Monikas the only one who looks directly at the camera with her entire body and head.
At least, till the ending where Sayori gets her privileges and learns the truth. Then she faces you, too.
Interestingly enough, the achievement for 100% completion is called "breakthrough" maybe a literal breakthrough?
Just like finding her breakthrough to fix everything
Nice
@keep rollin 152 comments just for this?
Breakthrough? *hyperventilates trying to find the broken fort lines* (this is a HoI4 moment)
ruclips.net/video/x8INQu6TBKM/видео.html
Mattpatt: Today, we'll find out EVERYTHING on fnaf.
Monika: *n o.*
even monika had enough of FNAF
Sheesh, that part scared me
That start was scary
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Why Monika why
It was the first ever game that i legitimately had no spoilers for and played through it was a ride...
Same here bro
Same, was recommended to me on steam and just decided to play through it. Started the game at midnight and finished it all in one sitting at 5am, great game.
Question: how did you download it? Can monika actually hack/control your own computer? And finally. If she can break the 4th wall, why can’t she realize that she would have been picked anyway from the start until she destroyed the entire server world stuck in a classroom without your “family” or girls who don’t mind you being with her?
@@ORROProductionss from steam when it first came out and she doesn't actually hack anything its part of the game design
I wouldn’t have played it if I hadn’t been spoiled.
I honestly really like the workaround they came up with when bringing the game over to console. Having a file folder sounds a little dumb at first but the way they implemented it was honestly really cool, especially with all the stuff they added to it
I feel its more mysterious realistic in pc
@@GB_Rishad For sure, but there was no way to perfectly replicate that
I love that "pulling a William Afton" is now a thing.
I always come back
- William "the Man behind the Sl4ught3r" Afton
Yayyyy
Same. Lol.
@@magdalenomartinezjr8805 slauther
William Afton challenge
"Everyone's always asking who the best girl is. Not how the best girl is." TRUTH
True.
But if you need to know how the best girl is, you need to know who the best girl is first
You can’t ask HOW the best girl is if you don’t know WHO the best girl is.
@@bluewinter7008 We both posted the same comment at the same time. It seems great minds think alike.
i'll do you one better. WHY the best girl is?
nooooo!! the ending matpat didn't say *BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY A GAME THEORY* it gives me chills feels like matpat is serious..
Monika has taken over Matt?
Yeah, it is almost like he is someone else, maybe someone more serious... Like Monika. Maybe Ive isn't the one possessed.
@@aquilamflammeus5569 You know, you and me wrote that at the same time... I guess great minds think alike??? Or maybe MatPat have made us paranoid?
matpats sus
Plot twist: it was confirmed to be true so it’s not a theory
Some person gave Monika knowledge of the simulation and watched as she instantly started killing all her friends.
This idea just came to me as I was watching this. I don’t think it has an actual meaning from what team Salvato thought, but it’s interesting at the very least. In the end of the first DDLC, you get an ending song made by Monika with her voice, or we think so. But isn’t it weird that she has a voice when she only lives in a visual novel and does nothing but communicate through writing. Maybe that has something to do with the possession thing. I don’t know, but hopefully this was helpful.
Huh TUN TUN TUUUUUUN
Huh DUN DUN DUUUUUUN
Nah I think it's probably because she herself does have a voice that simply isn't heard in the "game" that "Team Salvato" (in-universe) made. It is a simulation after all. So either she has a voice, or she has a perception of what her voice sounds like, and is able to create one to match.
If she was doing that as Ive, it would sound like Ive. And from what I found searching it up, Ive is a masculine name of French origins. (Also Ive may be referred to in the masculine iirc but I don't remember 100%.)
Plus, ehen she sings the song, she's still inside the game and it's implied that she's nuking everything in that instance of VM1. But it is just that - only one instance of VM1. And while data from Monika's memories of VM2 is being shared with VM1 Monikas, it isn't implied that multiple instances of VM1 Monikas share memory or consciousness. So it seems to me that there are multiple VM1 Monikas, meaning the one that we see in the original DDLC may be a different instance or copy. There's no guarantee that we're playing as Ive in that game.
"Every day, I imagine a future where I can be with you~".
@@vision4860 I mean perhaps Monika managed to possess someone else, or her many different versions possess other people. Again I said earlier that I don’t think that it’s this specific idea that Dan Salvato had when he made the song. It could just be a way to have a nice ending. However it’s just a thing to think about. Or should I say, that’s just a theory, A GAME THEORY 😏😋
Ive Laster isn't a real name, it's an anagram for "relatives" and "versatile." I'm pretty sure all dev. names are anagrams too with just how similar they are, starting with 3 letters
What's an anagram? Sorry for being dumb btw
Edit: thanks to the dudes who answered in comment section
We have,
Ro Teether
Ravi Raso
Lib Musi
Ive Laster
Paula Miner
Let me run this anagram first. I'll be back with the results
@@chubbychicken2412 An anagram is a word or phrase that's formed by rearranging the letters of another word or phrase.
I mean, this definition was really easy to find since it is in Internet, but glad I could help anyways :,D
@@chubbychicken2412 It's when you can rearrange the letters of one or more words into different words that still make sense.
@@hannahdiaz3019 thank you my guy :D
it'd be dope if having both ddlc's installed, they would detect eachother and maybe unlock more secrets
Ohhh that would be cool, but I doubt that that would happen since you can't get the first ddlc on console
But can you get the second in computer?
@@andreamartinezz124 I'm not sure
@@andreamartinezz124 yes on steam
I have never played ddlc but I know that you can get the second version on computer
I will always sympathize with Monika, imagine finding out your intire life is just a computer game, and the person your inlove with is never an option because he can't chose you.
Steph is such a good voice actor. I wonder if she would ever considered being one? I can definitely see her making it big; her voice is amazing and very flexible.
???
Nah.....
Ikr -
@@silkypun3849 You'll be flexible too silky. 🌚
@@joshualeahy2162 more flexible than your face sure
i KNEW something wasn’t right when MATPAT claims he’s FINALLY “figured out FNAF” PFFFF YEAH RIGHT, in your dreams
Same
Just Monika 😈
I mean did you even read the title or look at the thumbnail it was kinda obvious plus we all know that MATPAT's past "Final answer!" FNAF stuff hasn't been the final answer but he's probably done a large portion of finding FNAF lore and sharing it with us so I can't show him any disrespect.
@@arceeam3458 wow good job u is very smart
@@arceeam3458 it wouldvebeen cool if he titled it and thumbnailed it as a fnaf video and then had the first part (Like he did) talk about fnaf and then monika took over - but youtube tos says otherwise since itd be considered clickbait (i believe)
MatPat: today, we solve everything about FNaF once and for all.
Monika: We don’t do that here.
@@user-me1zv5pi2x Im not clicking that
@@qiqi349 lmaooo
@yes Thx i hate it
@yes I’m not clicking that
I was suspicious of Monika from the beginning because her name is the only one that doesn't end with an "i" lol
Is Monika a villain?
@@Centrooo01 she’s not a villain she’s more precisely a prisoner
Her outfit also has other colored shoes, and some other stuff
I love how he goes from a crazy deep ending to “And don’t forget you can still pick up this sweet merch!”
Lol I know right
I'm just saying, when you unlock the secret "Candy Hearts" song not only is it creepy, but you hear what sounds like someone (or more?) being tortured. Could be a node to the end of the theory and perhaps they need to save the Dokis?
Isn't Candy Hearts a Natsuki theme? The creepy version could be because of her abusive father.
honestly i think its sayori struggling at the rope
I dont hear the creepiness? Can someone explain?
Yall its callled Candy Heartz with a Z
Isn’t the creepy one heartZ
MatPat’s version of “This is my final FNAF theory!” Is the equivalent of a band director saying “Run it one more time. Just one more time I promise!”😂
The choir kids got the same thing. I know because I was a choir kid.
I feel this but it's the choreographer asking us to do the entire routine "one more time" oh my Lord 😂
When youve been running the marching drill for 5 hours lmaooooo
When you’ve been running the same 5 sets in the drill for 3 hours
Band takes up to much space on the field
The thought of Monika escaping is either really awesome or really terrifying. If Monika already escaped the game she lives in and controls Ive, she might be able to affect other devices and she could even appear in our world.
I am also married…. I would be a little worried for the sake of my husband. When I played though, I initially tried to choose Monika first. (Having no idea what was going to happen in the game.) She seemed the most interesting initially. Now I am scarred for life.
@@CuteKnight98 Well as you know now, you can't really go for the Monika route. And because there is no love route for Monika, that is why Monika went self aware and deleted everyone else.
What's Ive?
@@midknight1687 watch the video. Also this was multiple months ago
@@omelettej do we even know if Ive is male or female?
There's still something bugging me tho. Towards the end of the original DDLC, after deleting Monika, we had to play with a world without Monika and Sayori suddenly was the one who was aware that she was in a game and had control over it. But why? Why does she suddenly gained control? That's a part that hasn't been mentionned and that still confuses me to this day.
Because the president is granted access to elevated controls.
Yeah, I've been wondering this as well.
I first assumed that the entity who assumed the role of "club president" was the one who became "enlightened" but in plus, it seems that the devs made Monika specifically as the one with more access more so than whoever is club president, so then how does Sayori get that elevated access?
I guess because the whole world revolves around the literature club and with no President, there is no club, so in order for the world to exist, sayori is forcibly made to the the president (probably bc she's the second one who joined the club) so that the world can exist
@@almareyes4596 Im not sure I completely agree...Unless Monika itself is like a title more than a name, and whoever is president, is therefore "Monika"
I still think it's weird that Sayori becoming aware is not mentioned at all in plus, and how definitive they make it that Monika is aware on purpose, by their design.
Maybe you're right though, it's a possibility
@@ShadowKai08 I mean, Monika _is_ like a title, you know, Monitor Kernel Access?
Though i assume you'd know this know but just saying.
Matpat: “So let’s solve everything!”
Monika: *”N o”*
Minecraft: I agree Monika, it will take more brain cells to solve everything, right? **Looks at Matpat while holding Minecraft Dungeon**
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Minecraft story mode starring
Lel
@@LittleLightsDub the above
@@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 ...
when there's a special intro that's when you know, this episode is gonna be a banger
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Why there so many bots in here
MATPATS WIFE SHOULD EAT MORE
Is that Rick rolls? ^
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@@TheDevPodcast what?
Monika walks out on to a street, everyone wearing Doki Doki merch.
Also when you delete monika early in the 2017 game, all her "knowledge" goes into sayori who ended up killing herself due to the horror visions she received
That makes so much sense why that happens now.
Wait was Monika really having terrible intentions?
because she becomes club leader
I almost forgot about that
@KillerPlayz Same thing
"Have you ever had the feeling that you exist in a virtual simulation of a school" *Danganronpa music intensifies*
Speaking of which I wish Matt would do a theory on dangan
I mean I’m sorry but I think danganronpa already has multiple theories on it and I think don’t even think there’s anything to be explained anymore. The deeper meaning has been drawn out. The only thing he could really do is speculate if tsumugi was lying in drv3
@@animated_finn eh I just want to see like a vid or two of his take
Bro they should totally play it on gtlive that would be pretty cool
@@Qu1nnieBabes yeah
It gives me chills when he doesn't says it's just a theory anymore.
Its just a theory anymore?
@@mohamedyooshau8396 no, *it's reality*
It's soo upsetting 😭😭😭.
It makes me feel some typpa way
@@bafanamngomezulu3948 same, a bit different
ITS ALL JUST MONIKA
My gosh the complexity of this game and its background is absolutely stunning
I wish I could see Mat’s reaction when he realises that the TEST VM has thousands of lines of randomly generated dialogue that provides details about Project Libitina which he needs for the theory
Not quite thousands. There are 56 unique phrases.
Wait, there's 3 VMs? I thought they were only two of it.
In terms of the RNG of dialogues that you've explained, was it the same as when Monika drags us (or Ive in this case) to the classroom in space, talking for a long time before we deleted her?
@@alaskanbullworm1272 Potential Spoilers:
VM 1 = Doki Doki Literature Club
VM 2 = Project Libitina
Control Group = Side Stories
Test VM = A "window" into VM2 that shows one of 56 randomly generated lines of text from Project Libitina. (unlocked at 100%)
People are still working to piece together everything from Test VM. Some of the phrases look like they should go together but nobody has a full picture.
@about you is i
is this a ip grabber?
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Remember one of that rare phrase before the game that replaces the psycological horror warning: "PM died for this".
One of the guys that send e-mails during DDLC+ is called Paula Miner.
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@@kikokiko6159 60 comments just for this?
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"miner" as in dataminer, who knows what would happen to someone digging around in the simulation files like that
PM is a reference to Project M, a super smash bros brawl mod made by Dan Salvato. The development of Project M had stopped in order for dan to actually make DDLC.
Mat: "TODAY WE SOLVE FNAF!"
Scott: "Yeah buddy, about that... There's another book on the way, sorry pal."
@Chris Moliere You mean: "Mat will ALWAYS be the one to figure fnaf out"
666 likes oh God bring the holy water
@@Hoshikagayakikun AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I wonder what would happen if you named the character "Ive" in the games...
Actually in the side stories we do exist we just arent there when its happening Sayori hints at this because when Monika tells her to pretend to be a normal passerby sayori says "Literature is stuupid! I'm going to the anime club!" And she says "i was just thinking of a friend of mine." So we actually do exist in the side stories
Omg true
That could easily be referencing Natsuki, not MC. Just a thought though
@@Nomadsrevenge No, cause in one of the other side stories, she says that she didn't want to go the anime club because she says that the people there are just a bunch of weird boys or something like that, and also Sayori didn't even know Natsuki before she first joined the club
The MC exists, we just have no link to him anymore.
@@Nomadsrevenge Sayori didn't know Natsuki at that point. MC is the most logical answer unless she's talking about a background character, which I kinda doubt.
Also, Nat wouldn't call Literature stupid, since Manga is Literature.
IF
"Monitor Kernel Access" gives us "Monika", then
"Monitor Adjacent Runtime-Level Access" gives us Marla from the same mail. Interesting!
Bro 👏
Gg
They all have Japanese names tho so there's other options but they're all pretty close to Marla, but props for seeing that
yuh 😩👌
@@joannetrueman6838 That’s libitina
Honestly in the beginning I was convinced that the developers ACTUALLY gave Monika access to doki doki but then I realized its just a game XD they made it look so real!
Edit: Ayo 2k likes!? Wish I had that many sub's qwq
DON'T READ MY PROFILÉ PICTURÉ :))
@@dont9989 I wont
But what if that is what they want you to think?
@@xephyre6955 i mean having something like this covered up as "just a game" is probably the best way to know no one finds out the truth 😳
Oh no don't is here ;-;
It’s already been a year.
ITS ALREADY BEEN A YEAR
Been a year since you wrote this
@@LetsFollowGod123 been 2 hours since you wrote that
@@LetsFollowGod123 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@veranatt2720been a month since u wrote this
@@sigmaslicer-w7tbeen 10 days since you wrote that
Mat: I will solve fnaf finally!
Monika: You're not that guy pal trust me *You're not that guy*
Lol
Ah, General Kenobi
"Yuri must've slipped that in there"
Man, that is something, i can't-
I screamed he did not just do that lmaaoooo
time stamp?
@@-sycosis 2:09
DON'T READ MY PROFILÉ PICTURÉ :))
@@dont9989 nice try
Pat: 'talks about fnaf'
Me: 'reads the title agian'
Pat: 'pat still talking about fnaf'
Me: I didnt sign up for this shi-
'Manika had entered the chat'
Me: YYyYYYYyAaAaaAaaaaaA
LOL
LMAO
Big laughter
Lol-
me too lmao
I can understand this theory better than my math homework.
Monika: _Takes over a human body_
Afton: "First time?"
Well I wanna see the war between the glitchtrap vs Monika cults when both are trying to see who can take over the world
Whats with alm the spam in this reply section?
@@jordanburkert6208 ruclips.net/video/8sE54v1fcmk/видео.html
@@jordanburkert6208
RUclips said that don't press all of these links.
the lore is intense!!
yep, ddlc is amazing
It's really not. Grasping at straws isn't lore.
@@AceTaxiaGaming idk man, seems like p intense lore to me
@@officiallyolu it's not as deep as you think.
@@AceTaxiaGaming have you found the lore out
MatPat: This is the final FNaF theory.
Monika: no
XD
I was about to click away since I came for DDLC and do not care for FNAF at all.
Monika just saved us all the 99999999th matpat fnaf video
*no intesifies*
she said no i want more
POV: you think you clicked the wrong video
Me
It's absolutely mad to think you've got a theory already when you haven't gotten to the short stories during the streams yet
Im pretty sure they arent going to play them. Thats what I got at least.
He did them offscreen. As he explained, there wasn't any content relating to the game lore in them and it would've taken a long time to get through them, considering that Steph isn't doing gtlive anymore
I'm pretty sure they are prerecorded and he released them really slow on purpose
Yeah he told us during the last theorycrafting DDLC+ that he did a whole bunch of stuff behind the scenes, including all the side stories. With how many hours it took and how busy Steph is doing it on stream was just asking too much :/ He got to 85% during that video and said he'd try to do one more before the end so we'll see if we get another before the second of the Game Theory videos.
They're already done, he did them in his off time as they are unrelated to the main game, only the emails that follow them are
YESS AFTER WEEKS OF WATCHING YOU PLAY THIS ON GT LIVE I CAN FINALLY WATCH A THEORY ON IT
Bot reactions go!!
For the 56th time
IM BETTEE THAN MATPAT
_dumbledore said calmly_
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@@TheDevPodcast ok?
“I have the answer to every question you could possibly ask me”
“How do you turn a door nob with your nose?”
Hahahaha.
glue and time.
Superglue.
Friction and resistance to pain.
Ur nose
I can't be the only one who's still processing that they made a whole other desktop compete with files, music and other stuff 10 minutes into the video.
I remember in the first DDLC, a secret message pips up when booting up the game "PM Died For This", I was wondering if PM is Paula Miner
That’s actually Project Melee.
No it’s Project Melee, Dan was a chief programmer and worker on it.
In fact, an unused talk with Monika states she knows about Super Smash Bros.
@@walkerphillips2818 what is Project Melee? But also that makes sense in relation
@@wizeon.6309 Project Melee is a mod for Super Smash Bros (SSB) Brawl that rebalances the game and makes it more like SSB Melee. I haven't followed the project in quite a while though.
Could be either Project Melee or Paula Miner or maybe this is a random coincidence.....or not
The side stories were really wholesome .They helped me to learn a few important moral values,or remind me of a few of them.I am glad that I can also learn about the rest of the story as a whole,through these videos.I enjoy seeing the little pieces of evidence coming together.
Sorry the overuse of ,,few"
Hi 👋
I remember that you end the game by deleting monika but how would that work on switch
@@Bimble2000 it gives you a desktop on the menu that lets you view/delete files
to make Monica happy please knife 🔪 funny 🤭😄
Am i the only one that thinks that these theories are scarier than the actual game? :D
Probably
"Every advancement in our research has been in vain. For Markov has opened the eye."
FRRR IM HIDING IN THE COMMENTS
Wimps
No 😔
Bro, watching this video after both MatPat’s ultimate FNAF timeline four-part series and his final Game Theory send-off, the intro hits way different.
Imagine if the whole “solved fnaf” thing actually happened and Scott just said it’s all a dream
I think Mattpatt would have a seizure
Wouldn't matter, Scotts not the boss of FnaF anymore, remember?
@@unironicallylikesranger7122 k.
OOFFF
@@zariagibson1694 no he would have a heart attack
I just LOVE the amount of detail put into the intro credits with episodes like these. I bet nobody even noticed the books on the shelves having their titles changed!
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on the cup too
ok…
what
I literally burst into laughter when Matpat said this is his final FNAF theory! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Silly Matpat... there will NEVER be a final FNAF theory!
Same
We can only hope the FNAF franchise dies now that its creator has been cancelled.
@@MUSEIGENHonokaTV hope?
@@jamiejumpyhair7801 I never got into FNAF. I thought it was stupid.
@@MUSEIGENHonokaTV yeah. I only hope that your favorite franchise dies and that it's maker gets canceled.
MATPAT YOU WILL BE MISSED ❤️
bruh be quiet your so annoying nobody cares
Stephany voicing Monika: something I never knew I needed in my life.
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well in the gtlive streams she always voice acted her. i really suggest you watch their playthrough if you didnt its soo fun and charming and brings you back to a simpler time
You would've known about it sooner if you watched the GTLive playthrough. 👀
She voiced her in the other theoryes and in all of their 28 GTLive Doki Doki related streams(not counting the new game).
Dude we all know Monika has a Australian accent(if you know you know)
I feel like this entire game was made just for MatPat to solve
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@@vanbusto8870 bot
Yes
You're thinking of fnaf
I mean, I don't have time nor patience to solve it, so that gives matpat the role
“Hopefully Not Too Obsessed. Im Looking At You Yuri.”-Matpat
.................................🤨
I can’t believe I never watched these before, this deep lore is SO fascinating to me. And I really want to see a game or something that sees Monika saving the other timeline.
This game sounds like it makes you feel like a genius when you do anything
It does
Wow
Anyone: adds any dialog in their game
Mat pat: *that’s just a theory*
@about you
Can you stop?
@@shurr1945 Nope, iz bot comment.
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I genuinely love how the intros change to match the theory for each episode, hats off to Matt and the team for delivering every time
MATPATS WIFE SHOULD EAT MORE
What the hell happened to cause this combination of replies?
@@thelostone7512 that’s a good question 🥲
@@thelostone7512 Good question
I think that the idea of Monika escaping works, but not necessarily as presented here. The main issue with this is that when you reset VM1, Monika is reset with it too, or at the very least, a new Monika is initialized to go with the new instance of VM1 (all 4 entities/characters are given new indentifying numbers when "restored"). If the Monika from VM1 were to have the potential to escape, then there would be no reason to believe it wouldn't happen any give instance. Since they mention reseting VM1 many times, you would end up with many Monikas have had escaped, which doesn't really make much sence. Where this idea could work is if you were to say that the Monika from the control VM were to escape. It wouldn't be unreasonable to say that the control VM would never have been reset the same way as VM1, as you would not expect the control value of the expeiment to change. Furthermore, in "Meeting notes 3" they say they are to compare the end of the control VM to the start of VM1. Left neglected, without effort put into hiding Monika elevated privileges, the Monika of the control VM could potentially end up like the Monika of VM1. Since they only really care about what happens up to the point of where VM1 starts, you could say that they would stop caring after that point, leaving that Monika to have that same epiphany but just under possibly different circumstances. I overall don't think there's sufficient evidence for the whole idea of Monika escaping, but it's not too crazy to consider. Something else to consider is the significance of "Stories of Friendship and Literature" starting with a segment of "Dreams of Love and Literature", a detail unique compared to the other songs of the side stories. It's probably just a stylistic choice (especially when thinking about it as the credits for the entirety of the game), but you never know
I've waited 4-ish years for another one of these game theories about DDLC. I can wait for another 4 years or so to come.
Hopefully, Dan Salvato has more in stock for us about DDLC and it's plots. I'm soooooo interested!
I have waited 0 years.
I thought it a jojo reference but whatever
I'm not sure if this has already been established - I'm not completely up to date with DDLC lore - but I wonder if Monika has anything to do with the book Yuri is reading? Maybe she created it as a way to try and warn her friends about whats happening in VM2?
Huh, maybe you're right - we've established that her book may have something to do with project libitina but what if she reads between the lines and sees something to do with the "simulation" -y'think Monika's trying to make her friends self aware too?
Makes sense. If the memory space is being shared she might have been hoping by giving her the story in VM1 she might remember it in time on a VM2 reset.
Makes sense. And I think it works. Perhaps, Yuri reads the story to her friends and then a reset happens. In the story, them being sent of to be a part of Project Libitina happened, and so the girls escape the cane before anything bad happenes. Yuri however, sacrifices herself to get the others out. Monika, having known that she saved the other girls, wipes their and their parents memories of being in the camp and knowing each other in the first place. When Yuri is realised, Monika wipes her memory of the other girls, but not of being in the camp. Then the events of DDLC play out.
@@alixar_null I dont understand what you said.
@@sakuragihanamichi8527 I was saying a theory, sorry that it was hard to understand
I appreciate the whole “Monkia is a hero” plot but I’m literally confused as to HOW Monkia managed to make the stand-in character for us *a t t r a c t i v e*
Edit : MOM IM FAMOUSSS
I have found friends
literally 🤚🏾
They look exactly like a hentai protagonist. And she has access to the internet
Monkia.
Yea monkia uh I Mean Monika wouldn't be the best hero xd
I was legit so confused at the beginning like “hold up this is fnaf??”
I clicked the video and got really confused from the intro-
No replies, huh?
Same
Me too I thought my phone glitched or something XD
I clicked because the thumbnail is so damn scary
Same
Can we appreciate how you brings us high quality content everyday
Ok
@Savetion Ⅸ and so will you.
@Savetion Ⅸ wow like actually stfu plz
"everyday"
No he doesn't this is garbage
“today we solve fnaf once and for all…”
“no”
i guess we wont be solving fnaf ever.
I was really excited then it's like boom Anime.
Whilst watching it I got an advert saying: "you're watching a game theory video, aren't you. And I flipped out"
YOU GOT THAT AD TO?
Just wanted to point out, in case it wasn't already made clear, I'm not sure, but anyways, that "MARLA" entity from before, they also reference it in the email at 14:12, the "Monitor Adjacent Runtime-Level Access", just like how they got Monika's name.
“Metaverse”???
It was Mark Zuckerberg all along
Yes
*man behind the slaughter music intensifies*
@@Richpro369 *father it’s me* [intensifies]
we got zucked
Yuri is actually Mark Zuckerberg, look at those eyes
Nothing will ever be as creepy as a self-aware character knowing what my full name is.
The close up shot of Monica at 1:07 was abruptly replaced by a Wendy’s commercial starting with the logo, lol
bro as soon as she said that a firework went off outside my house
Me playing the game: This looks fine.
Me after the game: *THIS IS NOT FINE*
ABORT MISSION, HUSTON WE HAVE A PROBELEM!!!
@@thesupernaturalhouse WE CANT,THE DOOR IS JAMMED!
@@bocobipbrookiebradgaming7838 OH GOD, WHAT DO WE DO NOW!?
@@thesupernaturalhouse I FOUND AN EGG ITS LIKE AN ALIEN EGG OR SOMETHIN
@@gabrielbacyan4892 HEY,THIS IS SQUAD ALPHA 3, YOU ARE BETA 2 RIGHT?
4:22 “Everyone always asking *who* the best girl is, but never *how* the best girl is”
I always wonder how Natsuki is!
You might be an abused loli enthusiast, but I'm more of a depressed best friend type of guy.
sayori*
I think you misspelled Monika
That's a funny way of spelling Sayori
I too wonder how Yuri is
The effort that goes into the editing, man I love it.
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It's amazing and satisfying.
8:44 well, that company is kinda famous now
Man, what would Ive's character file look like? Has anyone tried that yet? Adding an Ive character file to the game? I feel like something could begin if you do.
It'd be cool if you could do that in the og DDLC, but you can't. That being said, I think Ive is in the game....as the playable character. The personality matches and itd be a perfect, elegant way for Monika to hide that he's in the game. Aside from the concept art, we have never seen the main character. What if that's Ive, perfectly hidden, unable to be found.
oh! Could it perhaps be that Ive is writing text for the player to choose (he's the mc but he's also playable) and in that way he's helping monika?
@@farted161 very well could be. It could also explain why he acts so distinctly
...calm in act 2. He sees some shocking stuff, but he's also numb to a lot of it too. By becoming the PC, he can interact with the world, unknowingly becoming a pawn in Monika's long term plan
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 I just thought about it what if its that his file can't be deleted and its locked in the game files
It's really funny to hear Steph just killing the Monika voice, and having MatPat go all "Just Monika" on us again.
Seeing as how MatPat really did choose Just Monika to spend his life with 🤣
*J u s t*
*M*
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Imagine having both 'FNAF: Help Wanted' and DDLC on your computer and at some point you find a text file that's literally just Monika and William talking about how they can improve their methods of controlling people... I think it's a cool concept. And, of course, we have Monika probably teaching Senpai from fnf how to control real life people.
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Hi techno
or Boneworks, the creatures from the void escape too
FNaF would be cool.
Fnf,
No
Fnf..? Fnf doesn't even connect with these two. But it would be a cool concept seeing William and Monika talking to each other LMFAO
I really want to see the behind the scenes of both the original ddlc and plus lol