@YourAverageRoofer hey dylon,I was wondering for places where high wind is a factor. Is there any other addition steps you have to do so the first layer of shingles don't blow off..or is a starter strip good enough..?
I'm 60 years old and looking to re-shingle my farm house to save on labout costs. Never don it before. This video was awesome! I don't think there's anything 'average' about your quality of work. Well done!
I'm in the same boat as you. Too bad we don't live close by so we can help each other. Mine came in a 32K to remove a layer of cedar and asphalt on a 1700 sq ft home that is 4/12 pitch with a long ranch roof with no alcoves or anything. I just turned 70!
Nice video! I have roofed my share of farm buildings but it's infrequent and I tend to forget how to roof in the in-between times. This was a great refresher! Thanks for putting this out there!
You really nailed this tutorial! I do a couple of small roof repairs a year. Laying the tar strips together makes total sense, something I wouldn't have thought of. Thanks! 👍🏻
@youraverageroofer great video very helpful, the only tip i have for improvement is on your starter strips on the corners put the bottom starter then gable one over the top so just flipped from how you did it. Water runs downhill. Really great video though!
Andrew Bortolini I always try to explain why not to do certain things and the consequences of doing so, just helps with understanding from a students point of view.
i like how you point out some of the common mistakes like joints lining up and the leaks that can cause along with nail spacing. a screwed up my first room simply because i didn't know nails should be 4-5" from a joint and really no less than 3. water creeps towards the nails when they are right next to joint lines and 5 years later you have the drips and nails that look like they were submerged in salt water
Hey just wanted to take a moment and thank you for the instructional videos you make because they have been a big help to me, you are my go to. Thanks again. Jim P
Interesting..hmm..as it flows it should go..well I guess 905 is Ontario, Canada! it's probably a base that is covered which doesn't matter..I take the 3 tab shingles en just cut umm! but who says ya can't get out a caulk gun with a roofing tar tube in it! (shouldn't HAVE to I guess!)..and did he build that roof to MovieSet this Presentation!
I don’t think that matters as much as the paper and flashing underneath it. I believe you’re just as like;y to have wind-driven water moving in at this location. If water happens to drain down under the shingle above the starter strip AND under the starter strip (you probably have other issues to deal with), the paper and flashing are still going to drain water off the roof.
Wow, what a fantastic tutorial on how to install starter shingles! 🏠👏 I've been wanting to tackle this project myself, and your video made it look so easy and straightforward. Your step-by-step instructions were clear and concise, and the visual demonstration really helped me understand the process better.
I found your video to be on point and precise. You will laugh, but I watched your videos prior to roofing a dog house. If I am going to do something, I like to do it right, even on a dog house.
Look at all the great comments this is getting! Keep it up. I am looking for all the things I can do wrong now. I know there are tricks and tips that people get from experience. Looking under rocks for them.
The best way to start the starter shingles along the corners at the rake and eave is to 45 degree cut both starter strips. Then they both are flush with each other. There both flat on the roof and the tar strip will contact itself to both shingles firmly.
You guys are lucky , in central FL we need to nail dripedge every 4 inches and put tar on it all around , difference is we don't put starter going up, it's way faster that way
I’m trying to roof my little tiny chicken coop with remnant shingles from friends. Tried to start today after doing tar paper and the drip edge. Its not pretty but... I’m learning. I tried starting the shingles today and realized I just be missing something and it was the starting shingles. Lol. Your videos are super helpful. Thanks. You also just taught me how important the tar strips are. I’ll send a photo if it works out. Thanks again.
I staple them in with my hammer tacker saves nails. Quicker application and the nails from the shingles fasten them down. No dragging the air hose around. Thanx 4 your video.
For a novice homeowner learning, this was is what I needed. I didn't like the cutting of shingles on the roof. In regards to the starter strips in the corners, how about cutting them at a 45 so you get less of a bump on the ends? Thanks for the video, no BS, well done.
Thank you so much! I purchased the started shingles and thank to you I feel confident that I can shingle my gazebo. Any additional advice for an octagonal shape roof? 🙂
Why did you take 10 to 12 inches off the starter strip? Didnt the seal go all the way to then end on that one? Excellent content, brother! I wish I had found this channel years ago.
Great video My question do I have to put starter shingles up the gable What is the reason to put starters up gable lm replacing the sheeting and shingles
Last time I shingled a roof,we just rotated the shingle 180°, presto! There's your starter strip! Of course you offset the first row so the seams doesn't line up. Never heard of a actual "starter strip" before!😁👍🇨🇦
@@contractorjay5062 . Double nail,and we are in a little clearing in a forest, but far enough so a tree can't hit the house. Don't get half the wind that's at the road beyond our little sheltered spot... Only lose shingles when I shovel the roof,don't know when to quit and leave some snow on top of the roof!🙄 Biggest problem is we suffer sun damage on the back,front roof wears fine...🤔
I have a 20 ft outbuilding shed. I bought the gaf at 39 3/8 inches. They say full first run. Then less 6, 11, and 17. The first starter row is 3-1/4 inches short. It hardly makes sense to spice in every 5 th row with a 3-1/4 inch piece does it. You have good videos. Watched several of them. Please advise.
So many videos show the starter strip as a shingle rotated 180 degrees. This puts the adhesive tab five inches away from the bottom of the first row, increasing the chance of wind lift. Cut the tabs off if using a regular shingle as a starter and install with the adhesive at the roof edge. This video clearly shows the correct way a starter strip has the adhesive at bottom of the first row.
@@PowerliftingwithGrandpaCharlie Most asphalt shingle manufactures require that a specialized adhesive is manually applied to each shingle if temperatures are below 40 degrees Fahrenheit. If shingles are applied below 40 degrees without the specialized adhesive, the manufacturer will void any warranty. Above 40, no problem.
Great video. Only thing I would do different is I would put the eave starter on first then overlap the rake starter. Backward laps erk me lol. Outside of that your procedure is legit. I know it's the same either way, as long as you do like you said and make sure to have the starter glue meet on the rake and eave.
Not to ask a dumb question but you started on the side first with the starter shingle but watching GAF starter shingle from them directly they start at the bottom of the roof, and then put the starter shingle OVER and on the sides... I would think starting on the side first then putting the bottom ontop would be a potential for water to sit if there was any penetration?
Seems to me if you did your first eve starter strip as suggested .... that if something happened somewhere between the eve and peak ... water would run down and have a path to "UNDER" the shingle? NO? Why not run the eve piece first and the gable piece on top?
@@alexw4225 I'll answer it... The starter shingle is only a waterproofing element at the butt ends of the regular shingles along the eave edge. The UNDERLAYMENT is the waterproofing under the starter shingle and that's where the water will end up anyway so that 5" strip of starter bucking water is inconsequential
Good videos but why wouldn’t you have your first bottom starter lapping underneath the rake instead of on top of it, couldn’t that top seam be a potential leak?
(1) No one has video of roof around Turbine vent and how to seal it. (2)How to shingle Trapezoid roof with large area, where to start, how small the end shingle can be on the end of first row etc. (3)how to Install ridge cap and hip cap tips without the vent on ridge. (4)How to install Open Vally shingles, where to start, which end to start. (5) Where to Install the flashings on roof eg step flashing, apron flashing etc. Other detailed tips and tricks. Can you make some videos of that? We had hail storm in Calgary Alberta CANADA. Thounsand of guys will thank you. If you can make 5 videos.
You have some great videos! I have a question on the starters I noticed you ran the gable starter first then overlapped at the bottom wouldn’t you run the eve first then run up the gable just so water would shed properly? Thanks
I recently cleaned out gutters on my roof. I noticed that there was no starter shingles installed. The first course was the first full shingle. I also noticed that this first course overhung the drip edge anywhere from 5/8" to 1". This caused that first course of shingles to droop over (bend, curve, whatever) in the hot sun. The home builders roofer said they were installed per manufactures specs. Any opinions out there?
We just had our roof reshingled on Saturday. On the quote, it said that there will be 2 bundles of starter shingles. But when I saw the actual job being done (I took pictures), I noticed that they installed architectural shingles flipped the other way (rotated 180 degrees) on both the gable and eave ends. They are Certainteed Landmark. Does not using proper starter shingles void the warranty in any way?
First time shingling...this series extremely helpful. You explained how to and why without talking down to us, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
@YourAverageRoofer hey dylon,I was wondering for places where high wind is a factor. Is there any other addition steps you have to do so the first layer of shingles don't blow off..or is a starter strip good enough..?
Thanks again Dylan. This video and your "How to properly start shingle courses" helped me today with our new garden shed
I'm 60 years old and looking to re-shingle my farm house to save on labout costs. Never don it before. This video was awesome! I don't think there's anything 'average' about your quality of work. Well done!
I'm in the same boat as you. Too bad we don't live close by so we can help each other. Mine came in a 32K to remove a layer of cedar and asphalt on a 1700 sq ft home that is 4/12 pitch with a long ranch roof with no alcoves or anything. I just turned 70!
Full Tar Adhesion sounds like a metal band.
Great video!👍🏼
Great video series! I couldn’t have reroofed my old shed by myself without this awesome video series with so many detailed tips.
I'm not in to hand nailing, but it's very satisfying watching and hearing this guy do it.
Nice video! I have roofed my share of farm buildings but it's infrequent and I tend to forget how to roof in the in-between times. This was a great refresher! Thanks for putting this out there!
Same. It's only every decade or so I actually roof lol
Dylan,
Thank you for making these videos. Extremely helpful for a novice like me.
This was nicely done. Good production values. Clear, unhurried audio.
You are an above average roofer. You have your own RUclips channel!!
Don't sell yourself short.
This guy seems like the best roofer
Love your camera angles and instruction. Keep up the good work brother 😊
Thanks, will do! (y) More content coming soon!
You really nailed this tutorial! I do a couple of small roof repairs a year. Laying the tar strips together makes total sense, something I wouldn't have thought of. Thanks! 👍🏻
@youraverageroofer great video very helpful, the only tip i have for improvement is on your starter strips on the corners put the bottom starter then gable one over the top so just flipped from how you did it. Water runs downhill. Really great video though!
Good vid. Very well explained. And you explained why you DONT do things. Such as not lining up the shingle and starter lines.
Andrew Bortolini I always try to explain why not to do certain things and the consequences of doing so, just helps with understanding from a students point of view.
Of course you always start your starter with a half so it wont fall even with the finish shingle
@@Average_Roofer can i spread turbo polyseal over the nails to stop leaks
You cover all the basics. Glad to see you know your stuff.
Thanks for the video. I have to put a roof on my shed tomorrow and this helps a lot. Little nervous about getting on the roof though.
You have the best videos! You tell and show without all the extra talk some youtubers do. Thanks
i like how you point out some of the common mistakes like joints lining up and the leaks that can cause along with nail spacing. a screwed up my first room simply because i didn't know nails should be 4-5" from a joint and really no less than 3. water creeps towards the nails when they are right next to joint lines and 5 years later you have the drips and nails that look like they were submerged in salt water
Very easy to follow your instructions. Great job.
Hey just wanted to take a moment and thank you for the instructional videos you make because they have been a big help to me, you are my go to. Thanks again.
Jim P
I just noticed he gave us the bird at 2:15. I'm just starting this part on my shed. Very good video.
Thank you for all your videos please keep them coming!
On the Gable end the starter strip should probably be on Top of the lower one because of the path of water
Interesting..hmm..as it flows it should go..well I guess 905 is Ontario, Canada! it's probably a base that is covered which doesn't matter..I take the 3 tab shingles en just cut umm! but who says ya can't get out a caulk gun with a roofing tar tube in it! (shouldn't HAVE to I guess!)..and did he build that roof to MovieSet this Presentation!
I don’t think that matters as much as the paper and flashing underneath it. I believe you’re just as like;y to have wind-driven water moving in at this location. If water happens to drain down under the shingle above the starter strip AND under the starter strip (you probably have other issues to deal with), the paper and flashing are still going to drain water off the roof.
Wow, what a fantastic tutorial on how to install starter shingles! 🏠👏 I've been wanting to tackle this project myself, and your video made it look so easy and straightforward. Your step-by-step instructions were clear and concise, and the visual demonstration really helped me understand the process better.
I’m not a professional roofer by any means but I’ve never put my starter upside down. This is an awesome video
Thanks for this series I'm using your videos to do shingles on my shed for the first time ever
This video was extremely informative and spot on. Keep it up with the content!
You are an excellent teacher.
You are very professional with your attention to detail.
Thank for the detail information, great video explaining the methods used and why.
I found your video to be on point and precise. You will laugh, but I watched your videos prior to roofing a dog house. If I am going to do something, I like to do it right, even on a dog house.
Extremely useful video and strait to the point . Thanks !
Thank you Dylan you're a great roofing instructor for the DYI!
Look at all the great comments this is getting! Keep it up. I am looking for all the things I can do wrong now. I know there are tricks and tips that people get from experience. Looking under rocks for them.
The best way to start the starter shingles along the corners at the rake and eave is to 45 degree cut both starter strips. Then they both are flush with each other. There both flat on the roof and the tar strip will contact itself to both shingles firmly.
I've never roofed anything but shouldn't you run your razor blade somewhere besides on top of the felt paper ? ? ?
Very informative. Great job and good luck with chanel.
Getting ready to do roofing on my shed and your video was very helpful! I Hulk smashed that like button!
Thien Nguyen Thank you! If you need any help or advice feel free to DM me on Instagram @youraverageroofer
@@Average_Roofer Dylan, how long should the nail be and how long should it protrude through the roof?
Needed a refresher since i haven't done roofing since AIT very informative and easy enough for a soldier to get
You guys are lucky , in central FL we need to nail dripedge every 4 inches and put tar on it all around , difference is we don't put starter going up, it's way faster that way
Great video, very informative!
This is really helpful man, thanks!
Glad it helped!
THANKS ,BUDDY ....GOOD INFORMATION !!!!!
Your vids are so much more professional than the bdr
I’m trying to roof my little tiny chicken coop with remnant shingles from friends. Tried to start today after doing tar paper and the drip edge. Its not pretty but... I’m learning. I tried starting the shingles today and realized I just be missing something and it was the starting shingles. Lol. Your videos are super helpful. Thanks. You also just taught me how important the tar strips are. I’ll send a photo if it works out. Thanks again.
claymonsterpottery send your finished photos via email to YourAverageRoofer@gmail.com 👍🏼
I staple them in with my hammer tacker saves nails. Quicker application and the nails from the shingles fasten them down. No dragging the air hose around. Thanx 4 your video.
Shouldn't the gable starter overlap the eve starter?
Very helpful! Starting a small roof soon and this was much needed! Thanks!
Thanks for this bud, I’m helping a friend roof a small shed tomorrow and I couldn’t remember if you put the nails in tar strip or not.
Yes very helpful thank you. Can you or have you made a episode with shingling in valleys? Thanks again time to smash the like button
Thanks for your videos man. There are helping me… A LOT!!
nice video, very well explained and why!
Good job man, I watched your shingle video too, very good as well I will be doing this tomorrow morning so I really appreciate this clear video.
I love the ringing sound his hammer makes when he strikes the nails... I dont know why, but it it's satisfying to my ear holes.
thanks so much for video. branch just fell through my roof. so i have lots of work ahead of me. now to learn how to do the sheathing.
There is is a video on my channel for that. I’ll tag a link to you.
ruclips.net/video/wnPsUNeENFA/видео.html
Keep up the great work
Thank you!!
Very, very helpful. Thx for posting this.
Now I know what my roofer did wrong.
For a novice homeowner learning, this was is what I needed. I didn't like the cutting of shingles on the roof. In regards to the starter strips in the corners, how about cutting them at a 45 so you get less of a bump on the ends? Thanks for the video, no BS, well done.
If you prefer to cut the 45, do it. It won't be noticeable if you don't tho
Just what I needed today.
Thank you for your experience and knowledge
Thanks a mill bro great video I did it on my kids playhouse
Amazing tutorial man! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! I purchased the started shingles and thank to you I feel confident that I can shingle my gazebo. Any additional advice for an octagonal shape roof? 🙂
You are so welcome!
Why did you take 10 to 12 inches off the starter strip? Didnt the seal go all the way to then end on that one? Excellent content, brother! I wish I had found this channel years ago.
Thanks for the videos! Great help.
Using 3 tab shingles for starter also work just fine. In your case IKO is Marathon if memory serves me right.
Great video
My question do I have to put starter shingles up the gable
What is the reason to put starters up gable lm replacing the sheeting and shingles
Last time I shingled a roof,we just rotated the shingle 180°, presto! There's your starter strip! Of course you offset the first row so the seams doesn't line up.
Never heard of a actual "starter strip" before!😁👍🇨🇦
Doing it your way the tar strip is not on the edge of the roof.
Bottom course would not seal and could potentially blow off.
@@contractorjay5062 . Double nail,and we are in a little clearing in a forest, but far enough so a tree can't hit the house.
Don't get half the wind that's at the road beyond our little sheltered spot...
Only lose shingles when I shovel the roof,don't know when to quit and leave some snow on top of the roof!🙄
Biggest problem is we suffer sun damage on the back,front roof wears fine...🤔
It may of shown on the video but do you go over the peak as well with the starter? Thanks for the videos
You can, but you can also cut it right at the ridge line. Both ways are fine !
Just slap it on as fast as humanly possible, get paid. Warranty void first rain fall. Bigtiiiiime!
As you work up the gable end, is it good to overlap the starters on the way up?
No , we simply butt it up to the previous piece
I have a 20 ft outbuilding shed. I bought the gaf at 39 3/8 inches. They say full first run. Then less 6, 11, and 17. The first starter row is 3-1/4 inches short. It hardly makes sense to spice in every 5 th row with a 3-1/4 inch piece does it. You have good videos. Watched several of them. Please advise.
Very very good. Thank you. I will do as I see.
These are some really great points!
great video but the shingles going up the sides should be placed on top of the bottom row of started shingles I'm thinking
Thnx man great vid.
Doesnt the overlap leave a gap and prevent the shingle fro sticking to the tar strip? How would you get them flish with each other?
So many videos show the starter strip as a shingle rotated 180 degrees. This puts the adhesive tab five inches away from the bottom of the first row, increasing the chance of wind lift. Cut the tabs off if using a regular shingle as a starter and install with the adhesive at the roof edge. This video clearly shows the correct way a starter strip has the adhesive at bottom of the first row.
I got to redo an old front porch roof. It's in constant shade. Does the adhesive still melt, work ?
@@PowerliftingwithGrandpaCharlie Most asphalt shingle manufactures require that a specialized adhesive is manually applied to each shingle if temperatures are below 40 degrees Fahrenheit. If shingles are applied below 40 degrees without the specialized adhesive, the manufacturer will void any warranty. Above 40, no problem.
@@brianw612 Thanks !
Hello, when adding another starter shingle. Do they overlap or go up against one another?
No overlap. Just butt in tight.
Great video. Only thing I would do different is I would put the eave starter on first then overlap the rake starter. Backward laps erk me lol. Outside of that your procedure is legit. I know it's the same either way, as long as you do like you said and make sure to have the starter glue meet on the rake and eave.
Great teacher !
Great video! What do I do when I get to the ridge?
Yes ! Simple and practical
Not to ask a dumb question but you started on the side first with the starter shingle but watching GAF starter shingle from them directly they start at the bottom of the roof, and then put the starter shingle OVER and on the sides... I would think starting on the side first then putting the bottom ontop would be a potential for water to sit if there was any penetration?
Seems to me if you did your first eve starter strip as suggested .... that if something happened somewhere between the eve and peak ... water would run down and have a path to "UNDER" the shingle? NO?
Why not run the eve piece first and the gable piece on top?
This was a good question I wish was answered
@@alexw4225 I'll answer it... The starter shingle is only a waterproofing element at the butt ends of the regular shingles along the eave edge. The UNDERLAYMENT is the waterproofing under the starter shingle and that's where the water will end up anyway so that 5" strip of starter bucking water is inconsequential
Great video. Thank you!
Good videos but why wouldn’t you have your first bottom starter lapping underneath the rake instead of on top of it, couldn’t that top seam be a potential leak?
Wouldn't it make more sense to reverse the lap at 4:56? Seems like it would be better for water run-off.
That's correct and you are supposed to overlap the gable sides 3" at every joint.
@@rickyhinton5726 you’re a roofer? I’m a newb but this makes since. Don’t think I’ve seen a RUclips er do what you’re saying unfortunately
Gracias from Texas
Any time
Great Videos Thank you so much now am like a pro
That was a great video!
(1) No one has video of roof around Turbine vent and how to seal it. (2)How to shingle Trapezoid roof with large area, where to start, how small the end shingle can be on the end of first row etc. (3)how to Install ridge cap and hip cap tips without the vent on ridge. (4)How to install Open Vally shingles, where to start, which end to start. (5) Where to Install the flashings on roof eg step flashing, apron flashing etc. Other detailed tips and tricks. Can you make some videos of that? We had hail storm in Calgary Alberta CANADA. Thounsand of guys will thank you. If you can make 5 videos.
Thanks for advice. Finished product.
Came out great. I tried to add a photo . Didn’t work. Thanks
Very good video I'm a framer and I want to learn how to roof👍👍👍👍
Anthony Z I will be doing 2 videos every week on how to install roofing systems starting with shingles and moviegoing up to metal and flat roofs.
You have some great videos! I have a question on the starters I noticed you ran the gable starter first then overlapped at the bottom wouldn’t you run the eve first then run up the gable just so water would shed properly? Thanks
I recently cleaned out gutters on my roof. I noticed that there was no starter shingles installed. The first course was the first full shingle. I also noticed that this first course overhung the drip edge anywhere from 5/8" to 1". This caused that first course of shingles to droop over (bend, curve, whatever) in the hot sun. The home builders roofer said they were installed per manufactures specs. Any opinions out there?
The one inch overhang is normally used when you have a 1x2 trim board fastened to the facia to cover the flashing.
Are you putting those nails through the D-metal or behind it?
We just had our roof reshingled on Saturday. On the quote, it said that there will be 2 bundles of starter shingles. But when I saw the actual job being done (I took pictures), I noticed that they installed architectural shingles flipped the other way (rotated 180 degrees) on both the gable and eave ends. They are Certainteed Landmark. Does not using proper starter shingles void the warranty in any way?
Thank you, very helpful!