Swing Type Stump Grinder Worth the Money?
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2020
- Let’s grind some stumps! Baumalight 3P24 3 point hitch attached stump grinder tackles some huge stumps. Danny works with the Bluebird walk behind grinder, then tries his hand with the tractor mounted grinder.
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You guys are great. This grinder seems to be the best choice. Sitting on the tractor and having to look back to try and see what you're doing would kill my neck, I like the fact you can see what is going on is a real plus. Thanks again.
Tm you should start a band with all your tractor buddies playing yard tools and attachments. You could be the Gospel Greenies! LOL!
Or the mean green lean machines
That stump grinder is awesome! Thanks for another great video!
Knowing Tim I never thought he would ever associate with a Swinger. 🤣🤣🤣😇😇😇
I remember in the middle 90’s when I had a lawn service going to a house in which the customer had the stump left from a huge tree in the back yard. Someone had started uncovering the dirt from the root system that spread around much of the back yard and possibly in the ground under neighbors lawns. The lady wanted the stump and all of the roots removed which was way more than me, myself and I could tackle so I passed. I mostly just mowed grass.
I remember another house in that city which had an old tree in the back yard which had an odd branch about 4 feet off of the ground. The branch went horizontal about 10-15 feet then had a sharp 90 degree turn straight up.
That's a nice stump grinder! I like the swing feature!
Look at that Blue equipment work. A lot of sweat equity was mad with that tool. The Baumalight did a great job removing the big stump, just a lot more tractor needed. Lets see Johnny 1 handle it. Great camera work Christy, you need a big shield to work behind.
Looks like that grinder does a nice job.
My brothers boss always told him if the front fits the back will follow and that was with a case backhoe.
Have a great day.
Really an informative video on the swing stump grinder. The walk behind is the first time I've seen somebody using one. I think they probably work well on smaller stumps, but you definitely need the heavy artillery like what you have on the back of Johnny too to get those massive stumps done. I am thinking if I ever get a walk behind stem grinder, I will opt for one that is self-propelled.
I bought that exact grinder on that exact tractor after my land was logged. It has ground probably 120 stumps from 2 plus footers to 8” and still on the original teeth. Great piece of equipment for sure!!!!
Cool. It seems to be built quite tough!
@@TractorTimewithTim yes for sure. Tough as nails from what I can tell. 1.5 years in!!!! I’m sure it will serve u well.
How many stones has that stump grinder found ??? I have one like that blue one but it's teeth chip an dull out from the rocks and I really want a tractor mounted one
@@wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695 I try to be as cautious as possible with regards to hitting rocks but it is inevitable that you will hit some. It will dull the teeth but has not yet done any additional damage
@@traviscritchley9600 thanks, no teeth have flown off either yet?
I just ordered this 3P24 stump grinder. Can’t wait to try it out
from shopgreendealer.com? You'll love it!
Wow you guys got right to the action! I like that, another good video 🙂
I like that grinder. looks like a handy thing to have.
Good video! That is a really nice stump grinder and loved seeing it in action. Thank you!
Love it. Dude at the end had a nice voice!
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Tim thanks stump grinding is a lot of work
God Bless All
PaK
That grinder is a beast.
Great video. How about a video on the gear used for production, how you put episodes together etc
Tim that stump grinder that's on your tractor I like the hydraulic side to side and the up down tilt
love the videos so cool that you know all this cool tool
Yeah, stumps get huuuuge, especially the bigger the tree! A couple years ago, I traded my neighbor him taking down a tree in my yard that didn't have a good place to fall with his bucket truck, for me taking out his stumps with the 5320 and Shaver MV50 that I brought up from the farm. He had 6 stumps, and most of them were between 2ft and 3ft, and were dead, hard/dry ash. I literally spent all day over there doing those, but it sure beat paying somebody $1500 to take out my tree and stump. I found that the harder and deader the stump, the less I could take in a chunk. I was down to taking 1" or sometimes down to 1/2" or so on the bigger, dryer, deeper sections, and that's with 64 engine hp, and if I recall correctly, like 55hp at the pto.
The 3P24 model definitely runs much smoother than the 1P24. It didn't shake the tractor around much at all. I suspect having the frame sitting on the ground helps a lot.
I have that model (3p24)! (Using it on my 3038e.) It's great, but like you found, you have to be careful not to take too much at a time. Too often, especially on a big stump, it's easy to end up actually cutting with about 1/3 of the radius of the blade (the bottom, a big chunk of the back, and even a bit towards the tractor), and that's just too much surface cutting at one time, even if you're not going deep. I feel like the 3p24 is a lot easier and faster, though, than the ones where you have to constantly move the tractor up and back (e.g., 1p24), and especially than the walk- behinds. Also, I bought it because I had (at the time -- I've done some of it since then) probably about 4 acres with stumps needing to be ground, and it'll take me (literally) years to do it. Worth the investment for me for sure!
Great vid, Tim!
Hey Tim 🚜 great vlog that will eat up a stomp 🇺🇲💯
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Great job Kristy! Don’t know how you do it consistently! Oh,the guys did good also! Cheeseburger time!Lol
To me it looks like the 1025 and smaller grinder would've been a much better fit for that location even though you got it done and did a nice job, IMHO.
Might have taken little longer......but the convenience of the more appropriate fitting equipment would make the job more enjoyable overall.
Keep up the good work, it's enjoyable to watch and Thank you.
Good job
Hi Tim,
Love your channel. Went back and rewatched this and wondered if you ever did try to put the larger stump grinder on Johnny 1. Wonder if it could work or not. Appreciate all the time and effort you put into your videos.
Haven’t yet. May try it sometime.
very nice unit
Detach and drop the tractor bucket behind the stump your grinding to catch the chunks of wood and make cleanup easier
Tim I can't turn like that is there a front mount
Leaf blower would work wonders on large stumps to make a good finish to find all the roots and missed spots before you fill the hole back up customer would like 👍 good job
I have had a swing type stump grinder that is very similar to the video. Tim, you’re grinding the stump from the wrong side with that type of grinder. You should cut the stump down low and grind from the back side, not the front. The chips blow out the back and keeps the area to cut clear as you move forward. If a grinder shoots the cut material towards you, cut from the front, blows backwards, start from the back.
With the swing bar in front, there is no way I could cut back to front, right? It would drag against the front of the stump.
@@TractorTimewithTim My grinder has a smaller diameter cutting wheel than appears on the video you have and I could work a stump down to a point where the three point hitch would bottom out. If the stump was too tall (frame lowers to the top of the stump) to get as deep as you wanted on the first pass, you just back up and hit it again. Maybe a difference in the design.
I wonder how often you have to sharpen them
I have tried both methods; grinding and excavating. I prefer hiring an excavator to dig them out and haul them away. Recently had a contractor come with a small excavator (Cat 305) and dump trailer. He removed 25 stumps (some up to 18") and hauled them away for about $1000. When I ground the stumps in the past, it was slow, laborious and you still have a mess to deal with. Plants or grass will not grow on the wood chips. You need to remove them and replace with soil.
Somehow I think I can see a driving Miss Daisy tractor video coming from you guys
Hey Tim. Quick question...can you share the size tubing and thickness of the steel sheet being used on the 3P24? I am trying to build a replica and I would like to replicate the style as much as possible. Thanks a bunch!
Another good video. If you had a seat like when the backhoe is on that would be ideal.
I was thinking the same thing! It would be perfect on a John Deere 110 TLB or maybe even a Kubota B26 TLB
While you were easing through the gate I was thinking, "It would be easier and safer to just lower that section of fence if he's going to grind that big stump.Then you could enter the yard through that gap to grind any others."
Hey Guys, does anyone make a roller that attaches to a tractor (3039) to pack fresh topsoil so it doesn't wash away when it rains after seeding? Thank you.
When it creates that much mulch you need to really blast the area with a leaf blower to be able to see any missed spots.
YOU!! Got !! A Tractor !! Get ! An Earth ! Auger !! Fitted ! And ! Auger it in the Centre !! Of the STUMP !!
This would probably be my preferred grinder, if I was running a 2038R up through a 4 series. Biggest selling point (at least to me) is the optional external control. No neck pain since I'd either stand on the side or kneel on the seat. I do like the deflector from a safety aspect on this one. Since you've run both grinders on the 2038R, which one would be the go-to?
The 3P24 is nicer... but costs a lot more. Either one does the job.
When sized right for the machine, the PTO stump grinders do work fine on the sub compacts. I have a Massey 1723e with a Woods TSG50 PTO stump grinder, and it works just fine. Weight on the 3pt is not an issue, however like you have experienced with your other grinder, sometimes the lift height is. The sub compact can't take down the stumps quite a quickly as your lager machine, but still gets the job done. Agreed, not cheap, but if you have the time to work with, and have a lot of stumps to do, it is still a good investment in my opinion.
Chris - I have the same Woods TSG50, hooking it up to the loader hydraulics on my JD 2520. I am having some valve bleed issues were if I try to move the swing cylinder only, hydraulic fluid goes into the up/down cylinder and moves the grinder diagonally vs. left-right. I can move up-and-down only but not left-and-right only. Did you have to use any additional items on it (flow restrictors, regulators) to have yours working properly? Thank you in advance!
@@tlackov I have not had to add any additional hardware to my tractor for proper function. The dealer did add on a second set of hookups to my rear fender so that I didn't have to get super long hoses to reach from the grinder all the way up to the loader hookups. It is just another set of ports though, not a true rear remote. it still uses the loader connectors and control. My brother borrowed the grinder and used it on his 4 series deer, and we had some difficulties at first with his too. We assumed his would have been plumbed the same way as mine and initially tried to match the colors on the collars that I had setup, but we experienced the same type of issue you are describing. Finally after a lot of tinkering we were able to use the loader diagram on the tractor to match the connectors up properly and it worked great after that. Worked much quicker on his 50 horse than my 23 horse, but still works none the less.
I like your new video you did a really good jop the moming you guys
Good night too you guys
Would sheet of plywood on the stump side of the fence work?
It would act like a temporary wall to keep it from blowing through the chain link fence
And cost $500! (Just kidding)
Hello Tim
You seem to have a lot of resources & access to suppliers to demo their products.
My reason for bringing this up is I was watching a Kubota BH-77 video that mentioned future sources for Hydraulic power being supplied by a slip on PTO driven Hydraulic pump, ( yes it probably has a separate Fluid reservoir )
Fluid supply & cooling was not mentioned
Just seems like a simple idea that may work
Ken in Florida
Yea, they make such a thing. We showed one this summer on a New Holland tractor with front mount brush mower.
You kind of answered your own question lol! I have a fence around my house with a small gate just for that reason. I like my grass, flower beds, bushes. I don't want ruts, torn up grass and flower beds, or bushes. Too much money to fix it!
That works great until you want ro do something in the back yard. We own a custom storage building business and we have to take down said fences all the time because people never think they will need in there yard.
@@joshuaplacka8480 I understand! Two years ago the utility company decided to move all the meter pits up next to the street after having the meter inside my yard since 1940. I had to take down my new fence and rails so they could bring in a mini excavator and tear up half of my yard. They promised to hydro seed it, but didn't! It's taken me two years to get a yard again, at my expense. No more taking down my fence!
@@jamesdiehl8690 and you didn't seek legal Advice !?
@@davidwillard7334 In our county the utilities and county/city gov are partners. If you want to fight one, you end up fighting them all.
@@jamesdiehl8690 You Are only TELLUNG ME ! what the company's Do !! You Obviously ! Did not ! Seek Legal Advice !
Can anyone tell me what the black cylindrical thing is on the upper part of the 3 point frame of the stump grinder which can be seen at 4:20 I keep seeing them on various attachments ! Thanks in advance.
Place to store the owners manual
How does this compare to the Ventrac stump grinder? Have you tried out the Ventrac Tough Cut for the Ventrac?
ventrac grinder works great. Yes, we love the tough cut. Amazing mower. We have many episodes showing it in use.
Do you grind stumps in Whiteland
I keep forgetting to ask you, but do you have problems on your 2038R of not getting enough hydraulic pump flow? I thought a lot of these implements on the back might require the higher flow that is found on the 3R series?
An attachment like this doesn’t take much flow. Running a cylinder back and forth is trivial.
In fact, this device needs (and comes with) a flow control valve to allow slower moving of the left-right cylinder.
Seems a 4x8 sheet of plywood leaned against the fence would have limited the wood chips range. Just a thought.
I am guessing around a 50hp tractor would be perfect for that grinder pretty cool!!
Might be able use the 3P34 with a 50hp.
I just removed a big pine stump with fire. Took 2 days
If you need more practice with stumps I have 22 more at the Raccoon Lake area
Love your content Tim
I have enjoyed for years
Thanks for sharing
Be well be safe
I could pay you
I would like to meet you guys
We can grind em I guess! It is just over an hour from here. tim at tractor time with tim dot com (make an email address out of that).
I have a similar stump grinder on my 4 series. You rightly pointed out a need for hydraulic flow restrictors. Moving the swing and down in small increments is necessary, and difficult to do very well without the restrictors. What was your recommendation for the adjustable flow restrictors? Great video and Christy captured the action very well. Blessings to you both!
I need to get it posted on discounthydraulichose.com.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks, I couldn’t remember.
@@TractorTimewithTim Tim - another great video, thank you very much! I have a similar grinder, just WOODS TSG-50, and have it hooked up to the hydraulics for the loader to the mid of JD 2520. I appear to be having some valve x-bleeding issues where I can move the cylinder up-and-down with my loader joystick, but if I try to move it side-to-side (using the bucket tilt side movement on the loader joystick), I move the grinder some side-to-side but also up-down along with it - somehow I end up with hydraulic pressure in the up-down of the tractor control valve. Do you use any additional selector valve kit, flow restrictors in the setup you have there? I see you control it from the tractor's loader joystick if I am not mistake? (hard to tell) - can you elaborate on how you have the grinder hooked up to the hydraulics of the tractor please? You must be doing something right, and I wrong...;-)
How does this work on hardwoods like black locust and hard maple I got a few where this would be worth the purchase
Black locust is a challenge...no matter what grinder you use.
Just be patient! You’ll get em done!
Great video - thanks Tim! Does anyone have issues with hooking a grinder like this to the hydraulics for the loader, and getting some x-bleed within their tractors? Anytime I try to swing the grinder left-to-right or vice-versa, I get some hydraulic pressure in the up-down cylinder of the grinder leading to diagonal movement of the grinder, not straight left-right only (parallel to the ground). My loader works perfectly fine using the very same hydraulic valve (the one that connects to the joystick that controls the loader). I am puzzled - potential tractor issues, not connecting the grinder properly (needing selector kit, flow restrictors, etc)? Any advice would be appreciated!
I do not believe that should be happening. Maybe a problem with the loader joystick?
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks Tim - I am also thinking something might be wrong with the tractor (joystick or the valve)...loader works fine, bizzare!
Does that tractor mounted stump grinder cut both directions or just one on the side to side.
Just one direction.
Awesome
Tim if you don’t have a tractor. Do they make manual grinders?
It just takes 2 people. 1 to operate. 1 to run on the treadmill. Lol
That’s a good size grinder so the right size tool for the job , however an excavator would’ve been way quick and stump is actually gone. That’s my only thing that grinding takes forever and you still have a problem
Where is this manufactured, country? Looks great!
Canada.
You have had that small stump grinder in the back ground many times, but I think it’s the first time I remember you using it. I looked at renting one for several small stumps. You may want to heal up before grabbing it too much. Or find away to attach it to your tractor..... Looks like your always having too much fun. Good job. (That might be a challenge for the Red Green Show.... How to attach a stump grinder with duct tape to a old tractor.). Red’s slogan...... If the women doesn’t find you handsome, at least they find you handy.....
Tim, please show us that same stump grinder on the 1025r! Really curious about the weight and horsepower on a smaller tractor.
Will be interesting to see if it will pick it up.
I am also curious on this same thing
@@TractorTimewithTim Hey Tim, I'm bumping this comment. Put that big stump grinder on the smallest tractor you have!
Good day Tim, Bumping this request as well. I have a similar frame, larger tire, older tractor (JD 2320) but the HP is comparable to your 1025R. I've been looking at the woods TSG50. Its a very similar design as the Baumalight 3P24 and Woods claims it can be run with as little as 15 PTO HP. I'm curious if the Baumalight can be as well. Your brother in Christ, Landon
Have you tried this on Johnny yet?
Can you cut in both swing directions?
No. ...but this turns out not to be an issue. I want to ‘see’ the cutting side anyway, so I like always cutting ‘toward me’.
it boggles my mind that people never put in a fence gate you can drive a regular vehicle through
I have a couple yard, but the previous owners let a huge tree grow up right in front of one of them! And it's between the power line and the gate that won't open!
I have one big one, but mom has a Bush that needs removed and she won't let me take it out. :(
I made sure my father got a double wide gate. It has proven extremely useful since we have driven the pickup and a skid steer into the backyard. There’s a motto I always fallow. It’s better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.
@@smitty2jones .
F250 I
Is the 3p24 quick hitch compatible?
No, not at this time.
what tires do you have on your tractor?
These are Galaxy Garden Pro radials. One of the factory options on the 2r’s.
Have you tried this on a 1025r?
Not yet. Doubt I can pick it up.
Is it quick hitch compatible?
This one is not. Sorry.
Looks like the easiest stump grinder to use
I think blue bird needs to have a self propelled upgrade because using that thing having to wheeled that thing is too heavy even if it’s not it’ll wear you out.
The big stump grinder would work better when it's turning the way like the Bluebird..
the bouncing is from using the wrong part of the cutter wheel it should cut smooth as butter when you use the right part of the cutter wheel
Easier said than done.
@@TractorTimewithTim It looks easy from my recliner. Be right back my coffee is ready. As I was saying, looks real easy Tim. 😂
It works but miserably slow. I’ve been grinding 25 years. Bobcat and CaT have brought out big skid steer units and they are to slow also.
I use a Vermeer sc60tx and a Vermeer 352. Even the small 352 would take about 45 sec on that big one.
I tried a tractor mount. Kept breaking the pro shaft off inside the tractor.
Not getting all the stump is just inexperience. Bring a hayfork and fork the ground.
45 seconds. would like to see that. Oh well.
@@TractorTimewithTim oh yea. I go behind a lot of these and the “ rental joe’s “ out there.
Btw great vid.
I always wonder why people don’t take a chainsaw and cut the stump as low as possible before starting to grind it. It has always bugged me to spend so much time grinding the top of high stumps down.
If you have ever gotten your chainsaw chain into the dirt, you will understand why.
The Abourists ! Don't want !! To ! DAMAGE !! THIER CHAINSAWS !! So They Leave ! The FORREST STUMP !! UP HIGH !! FOR THE HOMEOWNER !! TO !! LOOK AT !! AND FEEL!! GUILTY !! THAT! THE TREE !! IS !! STILL !! THERE !!! THAT'S ! WHY !!!
@@Strub3 I understand not getting the chain down in the dirt, but if the stump is sitting 12 inches above ground why not take a saw and cut 10 inches off ?
I prefer to rent a tracked style dedicated stump cutter such as what Vermeer offers. I can grind dozens of large stumps for a weekend of my time and $325. If I had to go with a tractor mounted unit, I would get the swing type over the 1P24. The tractor mounted cutters are just too slow.
1P24 is MUCH less expensive. Less than $2500. I think that is competitive to rental...for the long term. ...and it will grind any stump.
well, we have to somehow 'justify' the money we spent on the tractor in front of our wives, so we need to buy those to show the 'work' we are doing...at least me...;-)
Must be houses are pretty cheap there if a solar installation would cost half as much as the house.
i have a 2038r and you hay a 2020r or not?
Tim dose christie get hazard pay lol have a day love from TEXAS
I hope so!
I cut in both directions. Cut left, lower, cut right, lower...
As i always say if it cant be done with a tractor, it cant be done
It pays to cut low as possible with chainsaw, just shy of hitting any dirt.
I can't believe they didn't build the tractor mounted grinder to throw the chips down. That is a serious safety concern. especially when I have personally seen a stump grinder throw a 6 inch rock over a hundred feet. And coming from somebody that has ground stumps as a part time job for close to 20 years watching the grinding was just painful.
And as far as missing part of the stump, some of that is due to chips building up under the machine which changed the level due to chips under the tired/tracks. Need to start at the outer edges/surface roots and work you way in around the stump before removing the main stump to prevent covering up unground material. Also there are people removing stumps that only go about 2 inches below the surface and call it good.
You mean spin the other way? That would throw stuff toward the operator???
@@TractorTimewithTim Correct, it would be directed down and under the tractor. All commercial grinders throw the chips downward and under the machine which for the most part are captured by the machine. Need to keep the flying debris as close to the ground as possible.
You never know what you will encounter when grinding. I have found rocks that have got thrown up to a a hundred feet, horse shoes, glass bottle, wire, dog chain buried six inches deep, steel rods, discarded pipe fitting that have grown into the tree.
Well, I don’t think I want them thrown toward me.
@@TractorTimewithTimmy Vermeer 630B grinder throws back under the machine. It does occasionally throw a chunk at you but over all safer than throwing away. The Vermeer is much more efficient than the tractor style but I can see the benefits of the cost over the dedicated grinder.
The FORREST !! STUMP !! IS UNDER !! THE !! GROUND !!!
Looks like Johnny needs a diet to fit through
America? I am in heaven, the country with the best beers, chocolates, waffles and sprouts in the world so ... I am going to bed though.
Vlaanderen boven!
@@lailacobbaert9670 Waar er mossel met frit is
Waar er kip aan het spit is
Waar de kerk in 't midden staat
Waar de purperen hei bloeit
En het geld in het zwart vloeit
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@@lailacobbaert9670 Jaja, ik ken mijn klassiekers.
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