⭐️SPIES⭐️ WOMEN In Intelligence By Dr Helen Fry

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @pinkthistle5713
    @pinkthistle5713 Месяц назад +54

    Dr. Fry, you are quite correct, I have loved listening to you and hearing these stories. Thank you. Brilliant Shauna, more please ❤

  • @minik746
    @minik746 Месяц назад +45

    Fascinating stories of inspiring ladies. British people are so proud of all these incredible, intelligent and strong women.

  • @LauraClifton-w7e
    @LauraClifton-w7e Месяц назад +103

    They really were empowered women... They didn't talk it...they walked it.. Thank you so much Shauna & Helen..so educational and so proud of them ❤

  • @jillackerman6047
    @jillackerman6047 Месяц назад +57

    What a fabulous interview! I worked with a Scottish surgeon many years ago. His sister worked at Bletchley Park, and he never knew what she did, not even 40 years after the war.

  • @goodshiplollipop
    @goodshiplollipop Месяц назад +184

    My grandmother, her twin sister and their mother all work for Mi5 during the war. My great-grandmother ran a safe house in Belgravia and had press cartoons drawn of her asking …”who is the elusive Mrs Wiggins..?” Say no more. Magnificent ladies I am so proud ❤

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад +34

      You should be proud!

    • @carlydoyle
      @carlydoyle Месяц назад +29

      How extraordinary!!

    • @valeriemcclain9001
      @valeriemcclain9001 Месяц назад +26

      Oh my goodness, can you imagine how brave they must have been? Especially when you think what could have happened to them. What good stock you come from!!

    • @dalemaree7022
      @dalemaree7022 Месяц назад +16

      Amazing! ❤

    • @sandrahollinshead8713
      @sandrahollinshead8713 Месяц назад +21

      Wow that is something to be proud of.

  • @mandygriffin5241
    @mandygriffin5241 Месяц назад +37

    Just ordered it, on the basis of Helen’s excitement. We are so close to losing the history of this, as our population ages. Work like this immortalises the courage of amazing women

  • @jennifer5130
    @jennifer5130 Месяц назад +98

    Wow Shauna, that has to be one of the best videos you've done. What a fascinating subject. All those brave women and men who sacrificed to make us safe. Thanks to Dr Fry we get to learn about it. God bless them all.

  • @viviennemargaretprescott9717
    @viviennemargaretprescott9717 Месяц назад +36

    Truly wonderful listening. A heartfelt thank you to you both. ❤

  • @lynnewilliams6662
    @lynnewilliams6662 Месяц назад +69

    Now that’s a story of strong independent intelligent women. For all those who are hell bent on wiping out our wonderful history. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @beatieswanepoel3004
    @beatieswanepoel3004 Месяц назад +31

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, Shauna, for interviewing Helen Fry. This was fantastic. ❤️🌹🐝

  • @JFra127
    @JFra127 Месяц назад +21

    Absolutely loved this video. Thank you Shauna for reviewing this book and it’s amazing author’s work.

  • @feef4813
    @feef4813 Месяц назад +22

    I watched this without much expectation that the subject would interest me. How wrong I was! This interview was a revelation and I will definitely be putting this book on my reading list. Well done Shauna and Helen.

  • @christinecarter7655
    @christinecarter7655 Месяц назад +61

    Dear Vintage, Dr. Fry has a wonderful voice and is so enjoyable. ❤

  • @ajjudge7983
    @ajjudge7983 Месяц назад +22

    My absolute favourite of all your interviews, Shauna! Thank you so much. My beloved great aunt was in Special Operations Executive, and sent to France during WW2.

  • @lucycochran9733
    @lucycochran9733 Месяц назад +59

    How truly interesting Shauna!!! Thank you for inviting Helen to share her stories!!❣️❣️❣️

  • @mary-y8x8h
    @mary-y8x8h Месяц назад +25

    Just when I thought there was not anything new being covered about Women's war work, along comes a Dr Fry and she not doing Maths. No disrespect to Dr Hannah Fry. It depressingly unsurprising that women's historical contributions are played down, or ignored, so I look forward to reading this book. Also what a good communicator she is, and your enthusiasm for the subject matter really made this programme a winner.

  • @GargiJD
    @GargiJD Месяц назад +85

    Thank you, Shauna & Helen. What a mind blowing, jaw dropping interview! I've always been fascinated with espionage and to hear about the unsung heroines of WWI & WWII had me listening to you both with my mouth hanging open the whole 44 minutes! LOVE THIS! ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sueflynn9886
    @sueflynn9886 Месяц назад +27

    Fascinating interview, brilliant for a rainy day in good old Blighty!!🇬🇧👏👏👏

  • @lunapachamama915
    @lunapachamama915 Месяц назад +60

    What a treat on a rainy Sunday morning in Wiltshire. Such an inspiring and riveting exchange today, celebrating these unsung heroines, thank you both ✨💫✨

  • @meaganpearson2120
    @meaganpearson2120 Месяц назад +55

    How truly inspiring is this story in female power and achievement.

  • @yachoobful
    @yachoobful Месяц назад +41

    I had this on while I did my ironing, a dull and mundane task elevated to something immensely enjoyable by the company I chose. Dr Fry is so knowledgeable,passionate and enthusiastic it was a real pleasure to listen to her. I’m definitely buying this book! That was quite a juicy little snippet about the Vatican involvement with the Allies, it certainly runs contrary to a lot of prevailing narratives!

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад +4

      Excellent!

    • @fibanocci314
      @fibanocci314 Месяц назад +1

      Does it run contrary? If they considered themselves "neutral," why wouldn't they help people from both sides escape? And if both sides have it documented, as Dr. Fry says, then it would appear that's what they did. Or perhaps the Church is not a monolith and individual parishes made individual choices which the Vatican elected to ignore in favor of neutrality.

  • @kathyprime5430
    @kathyprime5430 Месяц назад +5

    Dr fry should host her own documentary. She is wonderful to listen to.

  • @annmariewraight871
    @annmariewraight871 Месяц назад +13

    I was TOTALLY captivated from beginning to end!!!
    The energy was crackling - maybe some of those incredible heroines were keeping us all company from somewhere out there in the ether...
    Thank you so much Helen❤🎉
    Another superb interview Shauna!!!
    ❤🎉
    Keep these coming please!
    X

  • @FairisleButterflies
    @FairisleButterflies Месяц назад +14

    I read The Walls have Ears and Women in Intelligence leading up to this podcast. I highly recommend both, very interesting.

    • @fibanocci314
      @fibanocci314 Месяц назад +1

      I'm working my way through The Walls Have Ears right now and concur!

    • @celiawhitaker2404
      @celiawhitaker2404 Месяц назад

      I read it a couple of years back - fascinating and superbly written.

  • @SusanMarg
    @SusanMarg Месяц назад +35

    Oh Shauna. I LOVED this! There is certainly more than 1 convo in this. Again please❤

  • @kathybutterfield2760
    @kathybutterfield2760 Месяц назад +16

    It WOULD make a great drama series!

  • @annbannister1118
    @annbannister1118 Месяц назад +32

    It is wonderful to hear about women in intelligence and in high powered jobs , what normally is a male dominated role ,as women are not normally taken seriously ,what great achievements and assets they are ,I love hearing stories about women in these roles ,I am also at the moment ,changing subject slightly, watching a documentary on women on Everest ,which is wonderful but sad to watch, as some of them are still on Everest ,on which they rest , I am currently watching one called ,women of Everest ,about our brave women taking on one of the most dangerous and deadly mountains in the world ,but I salute all women ,of courage bravery ,intelligence ,you are, inspirational and an empowerment, to all women ❤

  • @marioncottell7285
    @marioncottell7285 Месяц назад +23

    I didn’t move a muscle the entire interview. Spellbound. Thank you so much. 😊💕🇨🇦

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад +6

      What a lovely thing to say! Thanks for watching 😊

    • @juliesuris8906
      @juliesuris8906 Месяц назад +1

      I just got around to listening to this conversation because I knew it would require a complete mental engagement. I will go back and listen to it again now and surely in the future as well as looking up books Dr. Fry has written. Fascinating content and conversation, thank you Shauna for introducing the remarkable Dr. Fry in your channel.

  • @kathybutterfield2760
    @kathybutterfield2760 Месяц назад +17

    What a delightful Sunday morning treat! Just fascinating!

  • @philmcraig
    @philmcraig Месяц назад +56

    Helen's energy is remarkable!

  • @pickledellies
    @pickledellies Месяц назад +30

    That was one of the best interviews I've heard on RUclips. Well done, Shauna. I have a feeling Dr Helen Fry's work is going to become my October obsession. Brilliant.

  • @kathyevans2968
    @kathyevans2968 Месяц назад +15

    This whole topic fascinates me and your entire conversation was so interesting with Dr Fry! As as child, I read the story of Odette who was a famous spy during WW2 & am still captivated by her courage. I can’t wait to read Helen’s book now and learn more about these remarkable women. As always, thank you for opening my eyes, Shauna!

  • @ScotShaRon
    @ScotShaRon Месяц назад +16

    Wow I'd love to have been there when Helen was going through all the files. Having signed the Official Secrets Act myself its very intriguing to realise how women helped win both wars. Thanks Helen and Shauna for a fantastic episode

  • @jeannemara1600
    @jeannemara1600 Месяц назад +14

    Thank you for this most interesting, and well-researched, intellectually stimulating, information on espionage and skullduggery in the wars of the twentieth century. The competition one often hears of male vs female, and who was "better" or should have been treated better in these situations was missing here and I am grateful for that and your fact-based, non-political discussion . In war, we are all called on to be better and more than we ever thought we could be, both male and female. So thank you for speaking fact without personal male vs female viewpoint involvement. You did well, both of you.

    • @dutchgram3799
      @dutchgram3799 Месяц назад +1

      You brought up very good points. Thank you for sharing this. It broadened my thoughts.

  • @MaryGraceHutchinson
    @MaryGraceHutchinson Месяц назад +11

    Shauna that was more than brilliant. My little grey cells are going bing bing bing. Love the stories and ty for getting Helen to tell us all about her motivation. I can Helen doing an Alfred Hitchcock tv series.

  • @lainiefinnell590
    @lainiefinnell590 Месяц назад +6

    What wonderful stories of bravery and courage. Thank you both for bringing them to us.

  • @marytuttiett5293
    @marytuttiett5293 Месяц назад +13

    Definitely on my book list.....once again brilliant interview Shauna....Helen is so interesting. ❤

  • @flowermeerkat6827
    @flowermeerkat6827 Месяц назад +18

    Wow! I love this interview. Dr Helen Fry is a fascinating guest. Thanks Shauna!

  • @kathrynmckay1638
    @kathrynmckay1638 Месяц назад +8

    Shawna your channel just goes from strength to strength, I loved this episode so much!

  • @bryan7938
    @bryan7938 Месяц назад +4

    My suggested reading…’Elizabeth’s Spymaster’ about Walsingham. Basic Tradecraft hasn’t changed much. I am a retired UK Intelligence Officer, female 🙄😂, loved the job and eventually became an instructor here and overseas.

  • @susanthomson510
    @susanthomson510 Месяц назад +14

    Gee Shauna this has been riveting

  • @JacquelineWelpott-tv8vx
    @JacquelineWelpott-tv8vx Месяц назад +12

    I’m going to buy the book!
    Extremely interesting

  • @brendatucker35
    @brendatucker35 Месяц назад +5

    WOW, really brilliant interview, thank you so much!!! Hope she comes back next time...❤❤❤❤❤

  • @DeborahWohlfeld
    @DeborahWohlfeld Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for this engaging interview/book review. Dr. Fry's enthusiasm is contagious and she is so engaging. These women were epitome of what it meant to be brave, heroic, strong, and independent. Thank you for sharing the history and their stories. I can't wait to get the book!

  • @susanread2637
    @susanread2637 Месяц назад +2

    My mother-in-law worked at the Admiralty during the war and until the day she died at age 97 she never said one word about what she did. Very admirable women who played a huge roll in the Second World War and usually unheralded. Greatest respect for all of them. Awesome, fascinating and informative. Wonderful interview, Shauna. Thank you both.
    Cheers and sip from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @MMinUSA
    @MMinUSA Месяц назад +15

    WOW! Fantastic interview, Shauna, you both are so enthusiastic and articulate. Thank you for having Dr. Fry on your show - so interesting!

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад +3

      Thanks for your support! Not sure about articulate at one stage I said “definity” instead of definitive! Nerves & excitement 😂

  • @lindsayadams9527
    @lindsayadams9527 Месяц назад +11

    Fascinating. Thank you Shauna.

  • @rebeccaarnold-sauer6278
    @rebeccaarnold-sauer6278 Месяц назад +8

    A lot of Women writers in Historical mysteries have incorporated women spies in their books. Anne Perry, Anne Lee Huber, Ashly Weaver, and Lynn Britney to name a few. Being Historical they include real facts of the time.
    Love the interview!!

  • @LattaHollinger
    @LattaHollinger Месяц назад +6

    I thoroughly enjoyed the interview with Helen Fry and you ladies have made me so curious to learn more that I have ordered the books Women In Intelligence, The Walls Have Ears and The Spymaster. Looking forward to reading all of them and learning about the very brave women. Thank you both .

  • @lesliezegan7831
    @lesliezegan7831 Месяц назад +3

    I thoroughly enjoyed this interview with Dr Fry. She is new to me, as an author, and I am excited to purchase this book. I am a Vintage lady who is a member of a Book Club. My last book choice was on Virginia Hall. Now, I am going to pursue the story of Vera Atkins. People of integrity, purpose and substance are “my people”! I try to encourage younger folk to surround themselves with THOSE stories, instead of the “stories” of IG, FB and YT minions. Thank you Shawna, for being “my person!” You are a GREAT interviewer!

  • @lindamarskell6815
    @lindamarskell6815 Месяц назад +4

    Hi Shauna, I live near Bletchley Park and a friend’s dad actually work there during WW2. She said that during his lifetime, he never spoke about what he did but was always interested in the weather and maps. When my friend and her sisters were packing up his effects after his death, they found a medal awarded to their dad from the French Government and discovered through a letter that he’d been imprisoned in France and had been helping the French resistance. They believe that he flew to France on a mission and was captured.

    • @fibanocci314
      @fibanocci314 Месяц назад +1

      Perhaps you could reach out to Dr. Fry with his name? She might have some knowledge from the other end.

  • @marciaclifford7107
    @marciaclifford7107 Месяц назад +8

    Wow! Thank you both!

  • @paulinewilson613
    @paulinewilson613 Месяц назад +15

    A truly wonderful interview with a very, very interesting woman. Loved listening to Helen's stories, thank you Shauna xxx

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад +4

      Thanks for watching! Yes Helen is fascinating.

  • @Taffycat1
    @Taffycat1 Месяц назад +14

    What a great interview, that conversation was so enjoyable and interesting. Dr Fry comes across as such a down-to-earth person. My appetite has been thoroughly whetted, so this is going to be next on my reading list. Thank you so much Shauna, and also Dr Fry. All the best, Annie, Wales. 📖😸

  • @kathrynriggs2489
    @kathrynriggs2489 Месяц назад +15

    Absolutly fascinating! I can't wait to read this one

  • @Maureen-cc3pl
    @Maureen-cc3pl Месяц назад +11

    Shauna that was absolutely fabulous. I’m so glad that you interviewed Dr Helen Fry who is a fascinating woman with a wealth of knowledge. I’ve never had any real interest in spies and the Intelligence Service but after listening to this I’ve become a new convert. I’ll definitely buy this book and I will also have a look at the other books Helen has written.

  • @brendastajkowski502
    @brendastajkowski502 Месяц назад +15

    Good morning from Canada. You make my weekend!!!

  • @merrywalsh2809
    @merrywalsh2809 Месяц назад +1

    What a great topic. These heroes must be memorialized as much as possible.

  • @janecooper1425
    @janecooper1425 Месяц назад +9

    Ohh on a beach in Nice and just got out the sea , dried off and hey ho lying here having a listen what a treat 👍👍

  • @MireilleMassue
    @MireilleMassue Месяц назад +3

    I loved your conversation and have ordered the book. My family and I saw the movie A Call To Spy directed by and highlighted three amazing women Virginia Hall, an Indian-British radio operator Noor Khan who was held in jail for 10 months and then sent to a concentration camp and shot in the head. The third was a Jew Vera Atkins who led the women spies (you mentioned her in your interview)
    Two other books I’m currently reading - The Lost Girls of Paris by Pam Jenoff and a Woman of No Importance by Sonia Purnell
    Dr Fry is correct that the stories need to be told otherwise we would never know. I love history and I was so surprised about women who became spies.
    Like all your videos I thoroughly enjoyed your interview. Both of you showed the joy and love of reading, researching and writing about those who can inspire us.

  • @BridgetHeagney
    @BridgetHeagney Месяц назад +3

    Thank You Shauna For Having Helen On Your Video, Very Interesting and Informative. ❤❤❤.

  • @thepunpolice11
    @thepunpolice11 Месяц назад +6

    So interesting, definitely on my list of must reads..
    Does she mention Catherine, Princess of Wales' grandmother was a code breaker during WWII?

  • @katesinclair2645
    @katesinclair2645 Месяц назад +11

    Another fantastic interview. As an avid fan of this genre of history I can't wait to read her books. Thanks so much for doing this interview.

  • @mezzamuddle
    @mezzamuddle Месяц назад +9

    I have to purchase this book now. That was absolutely fascinating, Shauna. I hope you interview Helen again very soon. These women and the things they did were incredible!!
    Thank you Shauna and Helen

  • @kappy-nf6uh
    @kappy-nf6uh Месяц назад +5

    What a pleasant coincidence. I had just finished watching A Call to Spy on SBS about women training in covert operations during WWII.

  • @dalemaree7022
    @dalemaree7022 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you, Shauna. Yet another great interview.. totally engaging.. you are like fine Australian wine. You just get better anð more appreciated. You go girl, our littĺe Àussie gem! ❤ ❤from Gold Coast Australia ❤

  • @elainepaterson5310
    @elainepaterson5310 Месяц назад +10

    Fascinating! Yet another book to add to my ‘must buy’ list.

  • @fibanocci314
    @fibanocci314 Месяц назад +1

    Had to delay three days watching this because I KNEW once I started I wouldn't want to get interrupted and I was completely right. Fascinating interview! Couldn't get enough!

  • @marniehall7419
    @marniehall7419 Месяц назад +6

    Great interview - I’ve already downloaded the book and will be listening today - bbc series foyles war last episode highlighted women in intelligence

  • @nusiadyk3718
    @nusiadyk3718 Месяц назад +8

    What a delightful lady Helen is. Wish I could source her work. Do please speak to her again.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад +3

      Google Dr Helen Fry & all her books will come up and there is a link to this book in the description. 😊

  • @Always_Thinking
    @Always_Thinking Месяц назад +5

    Great interview! Very interesting! I would love to see this as a series. Seems there are so many fascinating stories a movie would not do it justice 😊

  • @juliashepherd775
    @juliashepherd775 Месяц назад +6

    Ooo! I’m going straight out to buy that. Absolutely fascinating chat.

  • @angelabinns5726
    @angelabinns5726 Месяц назад +7

    ❤ Brilliant and so much more to discover through her books, thank you Shauna, My winter nights are looking better and better with all these new topics to enjoy ❤

  • @ritafairclough6470
    @ritafairclough6470 Месяц назад +6

    You do have the best guest!

  • @Happinc
    @Happinc Месяц назад +1

    Definitely a much needed inspirational book, it’s a 17 hour listen on Audible read by a brilliant narrator Gemma Dawson… it’s fantastic 🤩🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @jasminebean5762
    @jasminebean5762 Месяц назад +8

    Great interview Shauna, fascinating and informative I now want to read all of Helen Fry's books, I also know the perfect person to buy this one for Christmas.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  Месяц назад

      Yes I am reading The Walls Have Ears now!

  • @barbaraoganesov3814
    @barbaraoganesov3814 Месяц назад +2

    Somehow I missed this interview so was playing catch up. So glad I picked it up. Just loved Helen Fry. So unpretentious but clearly in love with what she’s uncovered with her research and happy to share fascinating stories. Thank you, Shauna, for introducing Helen Fry to us.

  • @MyRedPoppy
    @MyRedPoppy Месяц назад +7

    Loving this Shauna. Just bought the book on Audible ❤

  • @irenebarlow8865
    @irenebarlow8865 Месяц назад +3

    Wow this is fascinating. Love it.

  • @SilVia-dg3rl
    @SilVia-dg3rl Месяц назад +1

    Just absolutely fascinating. I can imagine this becoming a mini series, there is so much! Absolutly wonderful interview. Thank you Shauna. Please have her on again with her other books.

  • @cherylhaas3051
    @cherylhaas3051 Месяц назад +6

    I can’t wait to read this book!!! I’m just in the series in Prime called
    A Spy Among Friends. The part where
    Kim Filby is in court and revealed the secret message on the cigarette paper. It’s so good!!!

  • @bernadetteverstraete9038
    @bernadetteverstraete9038 Месяц назад +2

    Hi Shawna...in one of Canada's National Parks, Banff National Park in Alberta, has a mountain dedicated to her...Mount Edith Cavill..... many people climb it every year.

  • @NancyDVI
    @NancyDVI Месяц назад +9

    This is fantastic! I need to get this book! Thanks Shauna! ❤

  • @yoclark2723
    @yoclark2723 Месяц назад

    That's it, I knew it. Shauna is the Snark! I've read books on Kim Philby, Nancy Wake and Bletchley Park along with books on American spies so I think I'm an espionage fan. I've got to read this book as well. Thank you Shauna, for this interview.

  • @aidaville
    @aidaville Месяц назад +5

    Shauna and Dr Helen Fry, such a fabulously interesting video, I actually have the book on the Library waitlist !! What a fascinating interview into the courageous women (and men) who worked quietly in espionage and I agree with Dr Fry -- their stories, their immense contribution to the Allied forces, their perseverance, all the countless unsung efforts must be brought into the open to be honoured.
    Aida, Singapore

  • @jilliegirlie333
    @jilliegirlie333 Месяц назад +2

    GREAT interview...I'd also like to see her interviewed on Joe Rogan's podcast. This woman needs to tell these important stories on a wider platform.

  • @alysoncaddick6344
    @alysoncaddick6344 Месяц назад +1

    I'm just at the end of my current book, so now I know what my next read will be. Thank you!

  • @vickigeer9203
    @vickigeer9203 Месяц назад +6

    Awesome

  • @merryveewee6796
    @merryveewee6796 Месяц назад +6

    Brilliant. This was a terrific, interesting, and entertaining interview! ❤

  • @janecollinson8891
    @janecollinson8891 Месяц назад +6

    Thoroughly enjoyed this interview with Helen, thanks ✅ Shauna, will buy the book to read much more!

  • @avissmith8384
    @avissmith8384 Месяц назад +6

    WOW, fabulous interview, Shauna. Thank you. Must get that book. So interesting. Loved it and Helen's enthusiasm ❤

  • @Juliaej-wy9ue
    @Juliaej-wy9ue Месяц назад +4

    A fascinating chat to listen to on a wet Sunday afternoon here in Wales. I'm going to order the book. X

  • @SheLoves2Learn111
    @SheLoves2Learn111 Месяц назад +6

    Yay, it IS my Sunday morning!

  • @OCmom
    @OCmom Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for mentioning this interview during this morning’s Vintage Read. I was never notified & just finished listening. I found the dialogue fascinating & look forward to reading this book. TY Shauna for hosting & Dr Helen Fry for your research & enthusiasm to share this history.
    👋from CA, USA

  • @ynys_mon6928
    @ynys_mon6928 Месяц назад +1

    What a brilliant interview. I am definitely going to purchase Helen’s book! Thanks to both you and Helen.

  • @sharonmcloughlin
    @sharonmcloughlin Месяц назад +8

    Sip to all...

  • @TrudiGilbert
    @TrudiGilbert Месяц назад +1

    I visited Beaulieu in the New Forest a couple of weeks ago, and they have an exhibition on the Secret Army from WWII. It was absolutely fascinating, as well as terribly sad, obviously, but, from that, I have no doubt that women were an ENORMOUS part of winning the war. Just incredible what these brave people went through.

  • @evelynpaterson2823
    @evelynpaterson2823 Месяц назад +1

    A really interesting lady to listen to!

  • @LindaBrown-f5q
    @LindaBrown-f5q Месяц назад +4

    Fascinating !!!! ❤

  • @MargaretWishart-or3yt
    @MargaretWishart-or3yt Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Shauna & Helen for such an interesting interview. I did read something once years ago about the White Lady.