whisky review 503 - Talisker 18yo @ 45.8%vol
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2014
- a vary tasty version of the big Tal' and I reckon this the best-for-price in the range.
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Ralfy is a person that I would love to sit down and have a conversation with over a nice dram. It's very unusual for me to feel that way about people I have only interacted with over the internet.
Wonderful to hear that Talisker is improving! I always thought that dram had much more potential than the distillers were allowing. Now, Talisker, are you listening? Knock it off with the chill filtering and e150!!
Ralfy, you're the best. I've just discovered your reviews on RUclips and I love them. I've watched well over a dozen reviews and bought three bottles on your recommendation. Keep up this wonderful work and thanks for your posts - they're a genuine treat! All the best.
Great review and wonderful statement at the end of the video! I'm happy, that there are personalities like you out there who have have to say really important things. And its great that so many people watch this. So it lends the necessary weight to your voice!
Great review again Ralfy, congrats on 500 episodes, keep up the good work. bought myself a bottle of Corryvreckan to help celebrate your efforts.
Enjoyed it as always Ralfy. I always enjoy when your "philosical" discussions come out as well. It makes it feel more like a real sit down to a dram as I have with my fellows.
Very well said! I always enjoy your reviews. Your comments are absolutely correct on the issue of integrity. Cheers!
Ralfy,
Talisker 18 is the real deal.Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us. I am a big Talisker Fan from Venezuela
Great review and words of wisdom! Opened a bottle of 12 year old Springbank the other day and it's terrific! Thank you for the review on that one Ralfy. Sincerely, Ossie
The smell of wood barrel mold, very beautiful! Lovely Whisky !
Ralfy, I recommended you're reviews and Website to a local Wine and Spirits Store owner. I was talking Scotch with him and was telling him how great your reviews are and knowledge of spirits. Love this review. Keep up the awesome work Ralfy!
Hi Ralfy, great video! I really love 'em!! Please keep up the good work :)
Greetings from Austria
Talisker 18 is next on my to buy list. Really, really looking forward to it.
Ralfy, thanks for reviewing this Talisker. I am one of those (as you mentioned) who have been avoiding Talisker for a few years after a number of disappointing bottles. I used to enjoy Talisker about 20 years ago but stopped buying it because of that increasingly harsh up front fiery black pepper which overpowered all other flavours. I was pleased to hear that this 18 YO has vastly toned down black pepper notes. I think it’s time I gave Talisker another go.
I also would go further than you Ralfy regarding E150 and Chilled Filtering. In this day and age all distilleries should have concluded by now that because of the substantial demand for Non Colouring/NCF whiskies that any big distillery that still does not have at least one whisky in their product range which is NC/NCF is making a serious marketing error and is frankly taking the micky! It is inevitably going to cause damage to their reputation. That’s my opinion anyway.
Very interesting. A score of 91, like Ardbeg Uigeadail. And I love AU!!! I can't wait to try this one. I've been eyeing Storm, this will do nicely!
Thanks for another good review Ralfy... I traditionally like the Talisker 57 North. Just checked availability of this 18yo... sold out in many stores already.. however where it is available it's rather expensive for an 18yo (99.95 Euro). To be put on the wishlist :-)
As always great video Ralfy! Malt mention: Malty mysterious Macallanfans! Greetings from Solothurn, Switzerland Andy
The Talisker port finish is incredible. A matrimony of hints of smoke, herbs, and fruits.
Good to see you reconciled with this expression.
One of best whiskies I've EVER had!😋🥃🥃🥃
Looking forward to taste it, I loved the Port Ruighe.
Bassetts Licorice Allsorts are also available in Scandinavia, mate! Too bad the 18yo Talisker is unavailable up here. Good review Ralfy!
i do like your reviews..helps me in selection.
interesting thoughts as always ralfy!
Nice review. Can you give me your thoughts on Glen Garioch? I've seen it in many stores but I never heard much about them
Its amazing stuff this,one of my absolute faves!😋🥃😋🥃
i would have a glass with you Sir! Wonderful video! I'm a Talisker lover but never tried the 18 yo ... it's much more expensive than all the " standard " Taliskers such as the Skye, the 10 yo, the Storm and the Port Riughe( which is my favorite ) available for around 40€.... I can get a bottle of the 18 for 90€ and I'll let you know ! You have a nes subscriber now 😎😎😎
Nice review, and I do like where you're going with this thought about "the label is the contract", but where does that leave NAS? As a contract that isn't worth the label it isn't written on?
Any chance you could provide the date code from the bottle? Thanks!
Talisker for me is a classic example of batch variations: T10 2007 very good, 2008 mediocre and 2013 good again. The T18 I got in 2012 unfortunately did not cut it. Rather lackluster compared to what it supposedly could be (and had been according to people whose opinions I value). It's great news that they presumably got their act together again! :-)
Still here, another great review!
hi ralfy! do you sometimes do vertical tastings? this one has always been one of my favourite whiskies. but astoshingly enough I had the regular 10y better than the 18y in a blind vertical. when I know what I am drinking I like the 18y much better. crazy,isn´t it?
Hey Ralfy!
It would be great if you did a review of Lark single cask. It's a great Aussie whisky from Tasmania.
Ralfy I like your reviews. Let's have a dram or two next time I'm in Scotland?
I’m drinking a wee Talisker 18 dram while watching the Ralfy review 😃
Hi Ralfy! Did you thought of doing a review on Glen Moray 12yo in the near future? I am really interested in your tasting notes as I have emptied half a bottle of it, and have my own opinions that I'd like to 'test', to see if I got some stuff right or am I completely off. Can't wait for that review. Cheers!
The Tally 10 is my favourite Whisky to date ... Storm is absolutely a younger less complex version of the 10 ... I have not tried the 18 but I would like to after this review. I must say I love the sea soaked shipwreck that the Tally 10 is ... I like a challenge.
I haven't have many opportunities to try a good scotch whisky since I'm in BC, Canada. Besides flying to Scotland, would you have any recommendations for getting my hands on a Talisker 18 or other 90+ whisky?
wonderful review as always. My local whiskyshop has still a yesteryear botteling of the talisker 18yo. In your opinion, should I buy the "modern" version or the yesteryear version of the talisker 18yo if I went to buy one? both are in the budget.
Hi Ralfy, greetings from Chicago. Fairly new to the scotch game. Interestingly introduced with a dram of Laph 10yr. Waiting to open a bottle of Octomore 6.1 for the holidays. How would you recommend I appropriately store my scotch for the longterm? Enjoy your reviews
Ralfy have a question, wouldn't the plastic in the bottle of water effect the whisky as you add it to your dram?
An absolute favorite😋
Rafly you are the best sir!
Ralfy, share some more on Natural Law and cycles sometime.👍
I once had a 20cl bottle of the 10yo and I had the idea it was had a lot more fruit going on than other times I tasted it.
Like it had longer sherry cask maturation, could be just me, but it was great :)
I've been enjoying spirits for only about three years and have not been impressed with my Talisker tastings in that time. I'll give the 18yo a try. On the other end of the age scale, were you among the few who got a bottle of the recent Kilchoman Port Cask Matured 3yo? The youngest whisky I've ever had (and more expensive than the Talisker 18), but a good young whisky. I generally keep away from a NAS whisky, unless I've tried it, myself, or heard outstanding comments about it. And I'm not a big fan of the Kilchoman distillery (I find their whisky well-made, but over-priced), but I'm enjoying this incredibly young release.
Hi Ralfy. You are getting into rather rare and expensive whiskies these days that must be beyond many pockets. Most 18 years+ command high premiums over the standard 10-12 years siblings. Admittedly, some can be better but the law of diminishing returns applies to most older whiskies i.e. the more you pay the less additional quality you get. There are many excellent younger whiskies out there still to review. Keep up the good work and keep to a budget price.
I've paused the video to express my hope that I am about to see Ralfy give a score higher than 89. I have watched quite a few of your videos Ralfy but I think the lowest score I've seen was 81 for a whisky that you pretty much panned. This might be the most glowing review of yours I've seen so I'm curious to see what the malt mark will be.
Ralfy did you try the Talisker Port Ruighe? How do you like it?
Thanks for the review Ralfy. Been wondering about this one.
Looks like some people are fired up this weekend!
I'd suggest that we all keep buying what we know to be great stuff. I assume any food I buy that does not tell me it is free of filler, hormones, and nitrates is going to slowly kill me. I buy stuff clearly labeled natural, no hormone.... NCF and No color on a label works for me.
Don't put it on the label and we will assume it isn't true.
Big Mark for a whisky containing E150 would the whisky have got an higher mark still if it didn't contain the aforementioned?
Malt Mention, Malty Mudlarks.
What do you mean when you say "look what happened to them" referring to Jim Beam?
Ralfy, my Talisker 18 YO bottle has improved significantly after one year of being opened, it opened up, it has a sweeter rounder character now....or maybe the drinker has changed.
Ralfy, you are my idol! Uploading my own reviews soon, Hope you like it as much I like yours.
Hello Everyone, is there a review of Kilchoman Cask Strength, matured in Oloroso Sherry casks in this channel? Kind Regards, Amiel
What do you think about 57º noth, is better than this one? Cheers
Hey Ralfy I have heard you say in multiple videos that you must store whisky in a proper way to maintain its quality what in your opinion is the proper way to store whisky. I'm just asking because I have recently bought another bottle of Ardbeg Uigeadail which I really enjoyed and want to save it for my 25th birthday but want to store it in a proper condition so it will keep its quality. Thank you.
Ralfy,
Do indoor lights have the same affect as sunlight on whisky?
No reply? No advice?
Ralpfy, can you re-review Talisker 10yo and the basic Islay Mist again? The both have recently changed their packaging, I've tasted them both again, and I'm pretty sure that both have their whisky infused with caramel WAY MORE than before. Please, PLEASE confirm or deny my suspicions. Those are ones of my favourite whiskies. Am I crazy, or is it true??
0:01 pure elegance
Ralfy, I was planning to buy a bottle of Highland Park 18, but this review of Talisker 18 has me wondering if I should perhaps re-think my decision. Both are roughly the same price at my local store. Which bottle would you lean towards at the moment?
Go with the Talisker! Beautiful whisky.
hello Ralfy!) what a ver.of Talisker 18 is disappoint you??) i have the 2007 batch in the old style 20cl bottle. Distilled in 90's
not open yet, сan't tried(
1) I love this channel. I think you are a "crack-up" (funny)
2) Finally a Single-Malt with a Malt-Mark over 90...I was beginning to think there were NONE over 90.
3) What is the highest Malt-Mark you have ever given?
Thank you, Dane, Yorba Linda, California
Whisky Review #24. Mortlach 19yo. Distilled 1988 and bottled at 59.6% by Signatory. Malt Mark: 95.
where do all these reviews get their mics omg
So apparently the bottle code means the following, the first number after the L is the year of bottling, the following three numbers are the day of that year. So the L4224... code below is the 224th day of 2014. I bought a bottle of this today and got L3238, so 2013. Ralfy, what was your bottle code? This is the first Talisker 18 I've tried so nothing to compare but it's profile matches your description pretty well.
For those who have watched this channel for awhile.... What has been ralfy's highest rated spirit that can be found in the USA and which video# was it?
Disappointed as all get out with my last bottle of Talisker 10yo. May have to give this batch a try though.
My Favourite whiskey with Laphroigh 18
Hi Ralfy,
I tried Talisker once before ((10 y.o. I think) was not impressed to say the least. Perhaps I'll give it another try. If I can find it that is. I read somewhere there's a new distilley being built on Islay. Gert something or other? Any news on that one?.
Peter Lovegrove 10yo version has had below-par batches recently. Cask policy needs upgrade in my opinion.
*****
How about that? www.whiskyfun.com/2014/Young-Talisker.html
mirqo just opened a small bottle, agree with whisky fun's view. Not very complex, but a pleasure to drink, as a young spirit I expected it to be a little rough - but it is very smooth. After that briney full bodied punch it has quite a sweet finish, where I have found Talisker 10 to be an almost completely savoury dram
Papaflo Thanks malt mate.
Are you by any chance a fan of your countrymen, John Locke and David Hume? I sense a bit of Locke in the natural law discussion and a bit of Hume when you curtail the discussion to what we can know around minute 12.
Hreiðar Ingi Eðvarðsson . . . well spotted, philosophy is well lubricated by quality whiskies.
Hreiðar Ingi Eðvarðsson I agree with Locke.
Ralfy,
Have you had any experiences with the 25 year old official bottlings of Talisker?
doctor594 . . . not recently, too expensive for what it is.
Hi Ralfy. And what do ya think about a Talisker 10 yo? Do ya think they have improved as well, as aTalisker 18 yo? I 'm on my budget and can't afford to buy 18 yo Talisker(((
. . . not so good at the moment !
@@ralfydotcom Thanks! Then I'll abstain from buying it, at least for a while.
Hi Ralfy, how are you? I always ask my self, but don't know the answer.. let's hear what you have to say: After you open a bottle of Whisky for the first time, for how long you can leave this bottle in the shelf? Does such whisky lose anything by standing there (in good conditions of light, humidity and temperature) for many years? Thanks a lot!
Malty massive sea mammals - Al from Finland
great news that it has improved, but how do we know we won't be buying one of the 'dodgy' bottles?
ralfy what is wrong with your tap water ?
or do you think there is not enough plastic waste in the world ?
Just got this from Santa..first taste of this since May 2018...🎅🎅🎅🥃🥃🥃
Ralfie, Where can i find the year of bottling on the bottle ?
Eddy De Keyser . . . difficult, usually embedded in the bottling code which might be stamped on the bottle somewhere.
***** Ralfie, this is the code that I found on the bottle : L4224CM000 - 05138430. Doesn't mean much to me.
nor me, the Distiller will know.
It seems to be the bottling of 2014: www.whiskybase.com/whisky/37978
ive 2 bottles of the same year same code;)
1996 isn. The earlier bottlings from around 1986/97 are superior.
Sorry but I don't speak English. I have a question to ask, maybe someone can answer me here. Why do you put the water in the whisky?
. . . to dilute the liquor slightly and release the complexity of smell and taste !
Thanks for the explanation
awesome chill filtered coloured whisky as far as i can tell....and as long as i not get a tendency to drinking too much i don´t give a freakin fuck
Hi Ralfy, dunno if you've heard of Whiskey Elements but if you haven't you should go check it out. ;)
Hey Ralfy, if you want to know for sure if a whisky has e150 or any coloring agent in it, try to find the whisky in a danish or german webshop.
in those contries, the packaging is required by law to disclose this.
i checked the talisker 18 www.whisky.de/shop/Schottland/Single-Malt/Inseln/Talisker-18-Jahre--.html , and it seems like it does indeed have artificial coloring in it ( mit farbstoff ), but there is always the possibility that the whisky sold in the UK does not contain it.
Anyone know if the quality has held up over the last few years?
It hasn't.
Like all whiskies, it's good but less so.
@@BravingTheOutDoors that's a bummer ☹️
Hey ralfy, I have big plans for making a whisky matured in coffee casks. Yes, you heard me, a cask previously filled with coffee!! While this may sound strange and may have been done already, I got amazing results using a non-aged canadian whisky in the cask!
This becomes too expensive and I would like an alternative! (Fussy, fussy consumers, aren't we)
Would it be safe to use a trombone as the condenser of a still? It looks and performs as a miniature pot still, but I don't know if the brass or other metals would poison the distillate at these high temperatures! D:
If you happen to know, I would really appreciate the feedback :) thanks! Been a big ralfy fan for years now!!
You'd have to run the t-bone slide through a worm tub to get the condensation, but I don't think the slide would give you enough metal to water contact to properly condense the vapor. Or, you could add a sleeve condenser, but thats a lot more work.
In any case, you want copper contacting the vapor, not brass. The copper interacts with the vapor and helps remove some undesirable molecules.
Yea I looked further into it and brass has a lot of toxins you don't want at high temperatures. Will have to go with copper sheet metal and welding.. More old school that way, anyways.
Thanks!
Fyi: I spotted a coffee whiskey (not liqueur) today on the state store shelves. I think it was called Nikka or something like that.
cheers
themaltbar It's "coffey" and it means that it was distilled in a Coffey still, not that it was made out of coffee.
themaltbar degmar
Yes I have seen it in the shops and haven't done much looking into it yet. T'll be a read to have with a dram indeed!!
is $500 a fair price for Laphroairg 25?
. . . to me, no, that's expensive for any whisky, something for rich people.
A comment about labels. (I may have mentioned a few points in earlier videos).
I understand what you are saying that the only statement that really counts is what is stated on the label. If the distillery is willing to write in an email that this product is 100% ex-bourbon casks or is does not contain colouring then they should state that on the label.
In my opinion, the Whisky Industry should insist that all Single Malts have to state if they contain colouring or any other additives and whether it has gone through chilled filtering.
Something which you may not be aware of Ralfy is the whiskies sold outside the UK. Very often the importers glue their own lables on top of the original ones and it is impossible to remove them without destroying the original label so you have no way of knowing what the original label says.
Very often the importers use standard labels and you cannot rely on the information. A classic example is when I bought the Glencadam 15 YO which states on the front of the box "Non Chilled Filtering and Non Added Colouring, bottled at 46%" but at the back of the bottle there is an importer's stuck on label which says that it contains E150a colouring and is bottled at 40%. When I looked at a bottle of 10 YO Tomintoul I saw that exact same sticky label!
It's an interesting point: "unofficially official" information available on a website, but not on a label. I do find the question of "provenance" regarding caramel, chill filtration, and even types of casks used, to be a bit of a parlour game distraction, however, given that an increasing number of consumers (and some of them old enough to know better) aren't taking a stand over knowing the age of what they're drinking. I find this strange, considering that "craft presentation", although generally beneficial, doesn't amount to the same amount of influence (good or bad) as age on any given whisky and that many who are worried about "this vs. that" type of cask draw the line AT type, without much thought to time IN cask.
As someone once said, “the scotch industry gets a lot of credit for all the things which it DOESN’T do to whisky, but which saves it money”, and, these days, that list includes adding caramel, chill filtration and stating product ages.
Malt454 and there there is Glengyle and their Kilkerran Work in Progress which Ralfy reviewed not so long ago. They are now up to WIP 6 which according to a simple calculation must be at least 10 years old now. I can understand them not mentioning an age statement when it was 4,5,6 years but now it's a respectable age they still don't state it on the bottle even though it might cost them a few sales? It's almost as if it's a kind of an anti-marketing snobbery turned into a marketing policy?
Reb Mordechai It MIGHT 10 years old but, then again, why state age (or, indeed, actually use older stock) when consumers don't demand it (and I’ll bet a lot of the 10 year was used on the new “limited six packs”)? On labeling/product information, I tend to work backwards from what a distiller ISN'T willing to say as these omissions are important - it's only the label which is legally binding in most instances; people can always THINK what they like and inferences are always in the eye of the beholder (look at the legends which have grown up around JW Blue Label). I think that an average of 10 years, much less a minimum of 10, isn't something that a lot of distillers are going to market as an entry-level, now and going forward, without considerably more consumer pressure than many people are willing to exert now, but we do have the power and NAS in general should be boycotted.
Malt454 Parlor games. Is that when you ask the Bruichladdich brand ambassador about the Laddie 10, and she responds with "let's be honest, there was a lot of 16 yo in the Laddie 10 yo", but they have no problem labeling the bottle as 10 yo?
degmar Indeed, let's BE honest; "there was a lot of 16 yo in the Laddie 10 yo" - what exactly constitutes a lot, and to who? Is there as much ancient whisky in the 10 as supposedly resides (always as "unofficial and privileged" information) in Blue Label and A'bunadh? The number mentioned is impressive but, without proportion information, tells you very little even though, as a repeated story, it makes Bruichladdich look pretty generous - again, more games. Maybe it's Bruichladdich's running out of the 16 which "fills out" the 10 which led to the 10 being withdrawn for lack of stock? Bruichladdich has "no problem" labeling its 10 (compared to its Classic, for example) - and good for them because I'm paying enough for it anyway - it just has a problem making it? Maybe they need a short refresher on what an age statement means; I’m sure it would be illuminating on the Classic.
Easiest way to know if a whisky is colored or not. it will usually say it on the back of the box or bottle.... look out for the fine print that says Mit Farbstoff....
Sheer poetry
Ralfy
The peaks and lows you speak of.....are the mistakes and corrections a distiller makes something that happened in years past and we only now see the improvements (like 18 yrs later) because of the time it takes to create and then market...sort of like light from the stars reaching earth? I hope that makes sense.
Ralfy how is your liver?
What a coincidence. last week i put this one on my december list. and the price is very fair in Germany.
btw it has caramel in it, thats what the German online shops say. Diageo products (if coloured) have it written in German on the back label :"mit Farbstoff".
That's strange, because although Whisky Expert24 mentions caramel in Talisker 10, 57 North and Talisker Storm, there's no mention of it in connection with Talisker 18. Maybe a typo?
2 shops say that it is coloured. Getraenkewelt- weiser (great shop with knowledgeable staff) and fine-whisky. I will order a bottle this week. I can confirm it when it arrives.
Malt454 i hope im wrong. because if it is indeed natural, that colour promises a noticeable sherry influence.
Antoine M It would be interesting either way, because it's my understanding that most of Diageo's sherry casks for the Classic Malts now go into the Distiller's Editions and that, previously, as much as 1/3 of Lagavulin stock for the regular 16 was sherry matured - a practice which I think has now been discontinued.
Malt454 how is that even possible? they would have to change almost the entire Classic malts range. Oban, Cragganmore, Knockando, Cardhu, Royal Lochnagar and more are all bourbon-sherry vattings.
as far as this Talisker is concerned, all online shops state that it is a Bourbon-Sherry vatting. but, the one i just ordered is supposed to be a 2012 version. i dont find a more recent Talisker 18 around here.
however i do believe that Diageo special releases dont have caramel. there is no "Farbstoff" statement on the labels. just checked my Knockando 25, Auchroisk 20 and Laga 12 CS.
Hello Ralfy, must be straight with you, I've been avoiding the reviews and chats since all that ghastly independence/political stuff a while back which had a rather distracting and unsettling effect on me. Even stopped drinking whisky for a while, heaven forbid. Water under the bridge now I hope, so let's raise a glass and allow whisky to have the final and lasting word, I'm sure you'd agree with that. Anyway. Good to have you back, so to speak.
Talisker 18yr old. This is interesting for me to watch, listen and discuss. I visited the Isle of Skye Talisker distillery 4 or 5 years back with my Jack Russell terrier Pip who enjoys drinking beer. Nice place, well worth the experience. Lots of lovely malty smells drifting 'round the village from the distillery, the smell inside was quite different, utterly concentrated and overpowering, akin to chewing fat with a tramp the morning after a serious, serious bender.
Having made the long trip across land and o'er the sea to Skye via Mallaig, and being able to play the tune well on my pipes, I wanted to buy and make friends with some Talisker, almost everyone spoke of it in hushed tones of approval. But no, as much as wanted, I just did not like the beastly stuff, it's distinctive repellent taste even bringing back that unsteady woozy smell I encountered from within the distillery, unpleasantly reminiscent of overdoing things. So I left empty handed feeling wretched and entirely despondent. And not without a certain sense of betrayal that I wanted one day to put right.The marked exception to their whiskies was tasting the much older 'distillers editions' which were quite different and a class apart, but unfortunately way beyond my budget.
So we agree on some of the dodgy younger stuff from previous years being a bit 'iffy', your opinion has eased my conscience. I'm delighted you think this 18yr old hits the mark and is suitably fit. Will treat myself to a bottle for Christmas if I see one.
Thank you for the review, toast of the season to you Ralfy. Cheers!
Hell freezes over sooner than I will say that 80£/100€ 18yo whisky is best buy or bang for your buck etc. Talisker 10 which is one of the few core range products of any producer that have maintained their quality recently costs 1/4 of this dram. I have no objections of investing 100€ into an independent bottling of sherried Clynelish or Longmorn but run of the mill Diageo product - shiiiiiiit.
I heard that Alberta Premium Rye Whiskey is one of the top rated Whiskies in the world. Would love to see a review and hear what you actually think. It's very strange that it's sold in Canada in a plastic bottle and is considered sub-par. Would love to hear your thoughts here's the interview: www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/ID/ID/2588338030/
I bought the Talisker 18 and found its aroma of iodine/Band Aids (ortho-cresol) just overwhelming! Meanwhile this reviewer is going on about notes of dried fruit, cinnamon, etc.
First again!
8th!
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Great review, as always. Ralfy, have you seen this recent article on the residues of various Scotches.
www.nytimes.com/2014/11/25/science/art-in-a-whisky-glass-neatly-explained.html?_r=0
btw did you know that there are actually people who dig in garbage bins for empty bottles?)) jesum i swear i witnessed it