I own an AVP and love it so much for movies. And 3D movies are absolutely insane. I love in France and the 3D movie list is pretty light. I’m praying for this list to grow, because once you’ve seen a movie in 3D on this device, I can’t watch it again in 2D with it. Image is perfect, especially in the cinema environment. Crazy. Even better than in the movie theater. The only problem is that as long as the AVP is a niche product, it’s not going to be a quick process …
I absolutely love 3D, just wish manufacturers would add that functionality back in modern TV’s instead of relying on a 2016 TV or older… 🙁 I would easily pay the extra money for that
I bought a Vision Pro when It came out, and the 3D movies alone was almost enough for me to keep it. If there were more of them, I would have. It was mind-blowing then, can only imagine what it will be like in the future. The only movie theater than can compare to this is one with just Vision Pros in every seat instead of a screen.
I bought a couple 3D tvs both passive and active, my active one is even 4K, but its when I got a projector that truly immersed me into the picture, I have over 200 3D blurays now and watching them in 3D is the best experience over 4K and 2D imo, I'd more than welcome a new home media format and would happily rebuy movies I already own
How were the 3D TVs? Are the reviews I referenced in the video relatively accurate in your opinion or by the time you purchased the 4K model had the tech improved?
@@WRNFILM yeah you got them mostly right, not a lot wrong, the "problem" with passive 3D TV sets was that some of them required you to be directly in the "sweet spot" to get zero ghosting (crosstalk), my passive 3D TV has this issue, so even if you're in the sweet spot,if items had more depth in or out of the screen you would see ghosting, it's a shame and diminishes some of the 3D effect, but if you can live with it its fine, some passive 3D tvs have zero crosstalk, but you have to get the right models, 4k 3D passive models solved the resolution issue as half of 2160 is 1080p, the 3D 4k oleds are said to be the best 3D experience when it comes to 3D TVs. A plus on passive 3D TVs is motion since you don't have to rely on flickering and frames, the TV is able to move nice and smooth with zero stuttering For the 4K active 3D TV it's almost the same thing, the plus is you don't have to be in a sweet spot, and you can sit far or close as you want, the 3D 4K image (even though I know 3D Blu-rays are 1080p) look stunning, crisp, and sharp, colours and contrast are very nice, the problem is the limitations of the LCD display technology as the screen itself doesn't change frames fast enough to compensate for the ghosting, so there is ghosting, I mostly see it in very high contrast items like lights and texts, if the 3D strength is too strong and volumetric then you also see ghosting around said object. I don't have a problem with the active shutter glasses since I'm used to it on my projector, but if they sold emitters for existing TVs to make them 3D, they'd have to be active, I would buy one for my oled since the screen response time on oleds are instant, this removes the ghosting issue, and modern TVs now have black frame insertions which would also help eliminate the ghosting issue for non-oleds
@@WRNFILMI have an LG 4k TV with passive 3D, I bought it right when LG announced their next TVs would not have 3D. It’s far better than the active 3D TV I had before, and the passive format doesn’t lose resolution like the first passive TVs did. There is still a bit of ghosting however. I’m a huge fan of 3D though, I have nearly every 3D Blu-ray that was put out. Plenty of new movies are still being made in 3D but not many have been released for home viewing now, which means I’ve been buying far fewer movies altogether. If my TV ever dies I’ll have no choice but to get a projector with 3D. I have zero interest in watching movies on a head-mounted device.
@@WRNFILM Dude your portrayal of 3DTV's is way off. Yes the first batch of 3DTVs sucked but they improved over time. You didn't mention the fact that their are 2 formats for 3DTVs. Active 3DTVs were the ones that required glasses that needed charging. Passive TVs were the second format that came out that uses the exact same glasses that theaters used and didn't need to be charged. I have a Passive 3DTV and the quality of the 3D is amazing.
Love watching 3D movies on my Vision Pro. Avatar 2 in HFR and 3D in the Vision Pro is a mind blowing experience. It’s really reinvigorated my interest in watching 3D movies. It’s honestly really great.
Thanks for calling this Next Gen 3D. It encapsulates everything I’m expecting (and about to start creating) with headsets as the “new TV”. This is like colour TV then HDTV then 4K HDR.
I’m passionate about anything 3D, from still photos to feature-length films. Unfortunately, I’m limited by what's available and what I can afford. I have a mini projector capable of 3D, but it loses that ability if the keystone is adjusted. My Xbox can play 3D content, but I don’t have a compatible TV monitor. I also have Xreal Air, though it's finicky with 3D content. Recently, I got the Lume Pad 2, which is probably the best 3D viewing device I’ve had so far-at least until I can afford the Vision Pro.
I saw Gravity in 3D on PCVR and it was amazing. The screen size took up my entire vison and I felt the rotation of the characters during certain scenes.
As far as I'm concerned, 3D movies that are only available in a DRM-locked, eye-scanner-only AVP format are basically lost media :( I'm so glad distributors are still releasing some titles on 3D Blu-ray, as at least those can be archived and played on many different devices.
Good to see someone talking about 3D! As an aspiring indie 3D film-marker (analog and cgi) I should really study this codec stuff more. Thoughts on 3D tablets like the Lume Pad 2? It can display 3D RUclips videos and a bunch of other things without glasses needed. Pretty sick. Tech is still pretty clunky though. Can’t wait for apple to drop a 3D iPad.
Apple put together this video discussing MV-HEVC for developers, but there some good takeaways here for filmmakers. ruclips.net/video/avTt7Pz1lgc/видео.htmlsi=QYItplGGjMxkIHRU I think 3D tablets and glasses free 3D is very exciting, but not ready for the mainstream yet.
Just wanted to drop in and say that all the Marvel Studios 3D titles on the Apple VisionPro have been remastered for UHD resolution and HDR 1000-nit color (to closely match the 2D HDR versions). As you note, this is the highest quality version of 3D Marvel has ever released (including theatrical).
The reason why 3D movies look impressive on Apple vision pro is because of the pixel density of the lenses. There was a single CES where 3D 8KTVs were shown in prototype form without the need for 3D glasses. People were blown away only for us to never hear from the tech ever again.
pfff yes and no. No TV or theater can compete with a vision pro on movies. It's literally that good. Sadly a handful of movies, no sports, and nothing else limits it at the moment. Coming though.
3D on AVP isnt magic. Compared with going to an IMAX theater, its a pick your poison scenario. AVP eliminates most visual crosstalk (Flicker) due to separate lenses, but has a low refresh rate (100hz). 3D content on AVP offers great contrast and sharper image, but in a smaller field of view, and worse audio. IMAX theaters by comparison offer a higher refresh rate (144hz), seating with greater field of view, better audio, lower price of entry, and the ability for social interation.
Bought a used Vision Pro 256 for $1900 on marketplace. At that price, I'm very pleased with it. The 3D movies and *especially* immersive video, is incredible. At $3500 plus tax? Hell no. Not worth it at all.
My C6 OLED with was the last OLED with passive 3D. Add in my Oakley Gascan 3D glasses and Oppo 3D Blu-Ray player. This is currently the best I have seen. The quest 3 3D is great, but I still prefer the C6. I haven't tried the Apple Vision Pro yet. The price is way to high for the limited capabilities of the device.
The one thing I don't like about 3D movies on Apple Vison Pro is the fact that their is no ownership of anything. Studios can take their content off the platform tomorrow and your left with nothing but memory's. Even though 3D Blu-rays don't look as good as what's on Vison Pro. You still own it at the end of the day and its not going to disappear over night like what's happen with so many digital forms of media on other platforms.
Unfortunately digital is the future. Most people actually don't have or use physical media players anymore. The last 2 generations really don't bother with DVD or Bluray players and quite frankly it won't be long before there is nothing to connect these devices to. TV's last about 10 years, and in about 5 years, everyone will have some form of head mounted display, so TVs will be obsolete. Meta Orion has already been shown as a working prototype of Meta Holographic glasses. The Snapchat Spectacles 24 are already available. Google, Samsung and Qualcom are partnering on a AR device. Cell phones will be worn on peoples faces within a couple years, and even the elderly will have adopted AR glasses by 2030. While 1080p 3d blu rays are cool to have, I have some myself, I just don't think they will be a useful item in 15 years, when all of the televisions are breaking down. In fact... most of the 3d tvs have already started breaking down. 3d cinema is not going to be held back to 1080p resolution and tech isn't going to restrain itself to what televisions can handle. With HMDs everyone will already have 3d displays and 2D is going to feel old and retro, just like black and white movies do now. Everything from home videos to Facebook feeds to Amazon online shopping will be 3d.
Have about 100 3D Blu-rays and I still watch them regularly. And getting in wasn't terribly expensive, either. Nearly every piece of gear I had at the time was already 3D capable. PS4 and the original Xbox One. My (then) new BenQ projector. The only thing I needed were glasses - 20 dollars a pop. I still use this setup - and in my living room. And it's still the best way to watch 3D - and the whole family gets in on it. No $3500 headset required.
I just got my first two 3D blu rays when I purchased my projector. Avatar 2 and Dial M For Murder and both look fantastic. I had section on it that ultimately didn't make the edit, but I was extremely impressed.
@@WRNFILM Not sure of your tastes but you mentioned Jaws 3D. I'm happy to report that the 3D Blu-ray of that is easily the preferred way to watch (I have a soft-spot myself). It's very well done considering the vintage. One thing to note as you go forward. I've found that whether the movie was shot in 3D or was a post-conversion began to matter very little as the tech matured. Post-conversions used software and it turned out that starting with a 2D image gave them more flexibility to manipulate the image. Films shot natively were locked into whatever they did during the actual shoot. So if they messed up during shooting, there wasn't much they could do to fix it in post. As such, at the end of the initial run of 3D we got some magnificent post-conversions - Top Gun and Jurassic Park, just to name a few.
@@yannisgk The 2016 BenQ HT2050. Believe it or not, they were actively selling this model (updated, of course) until very recently so they're not hard to find. They still go for about $800.
I love watching my 3d blurays on my quest 3, but i would love to be able to get the 4k 3d content. So it needs to come to more platforms, and/or Apple needs to get an actually affordable vision device out to the world!
Since autostereoscopic (glasses free) 3D works a lot better on handheld screens than on TVs, it would be cool if Nintendo included an autostereoscopic screen in the Switch 2. Video games could then optionally use the stereoscopic effect or not. But of course Nintendo has moved on from 3D so they won't include it.
Hmmm So we are flawed by the necessity of the vision pro just to watch the perfect 3D codec? Is there any word where the hevc codec could work on something like a set of Xreal pro AR glasses? They are more comfortable than the large headsets. The form factor is still a giant non starter for consumers.
I think you're right on the consumer level but you still have some of us who prefer VR headsets for movies and the like. I would get another headset before I'd get glasses. Actually, the hololens is really cool, especially for sports but I'd still go Vision Pro.
This was a very well made video, thank you! I have been echoing the same sentiment for a while now, and now that projectors and XR glasses are taking over the market - its only a matter of time until content providers make 3D content more accessible, or pirates figure out how to rip 3D video off of the AVP. Do make more videos man, and would love to follow you on socials!
Video was so nerdy and technical I almost forgot about you saying you would show the dog. Lol. Great Job on this one! Really enjoyed it, you have a new subscriber.
I don't see IMAX and Dolby Cinemas as a competition to 3D but rather as an enhancement since they already support 3D for a long time. My favorite way of watching 3D that's non VR would be IMAX 3D that uses dual laser projection so it supports 4K, HDR and HFR as well. (I also love 4DX even more for more sensical enhancements but unfortunately it isn't offered with that same visual immersion that you get from IMAX 3D yet). But I agree VR is definitely the future of immersive motion picture content it's just gonna take a while for it to become the standard cause currently 3,500 USD is way too expensive for the masses which is why people will still use their 2D screens for a while.
I have a Meta Quest 3, and I love 3D movies. I am very disappointed that Mad Max: Fury Road and Dune 2 are not being released in 3D blu-ray. I have hopes for the future with both Meta Quest and AVP.
I can play back self-made 4K 3D content in SBS format on my active 3D 4K Samsung TV from a decade ago. While it's half 4K resolution from being in SBS format, it's still twice that of full HD 3D and looks amazing & also supports high frame rates while in 3D mode. There's no technical reason this couldn't have been done years ago, and UHD 3D movies could be sold right now on UHD Blu-ray in SBS or over/under format for use on these old screens.
This was a great video, very helpful to understand the journey of 3D for movies and I now know why I’m addicted to watching 3D on Apple Vision Pro. Also we have apple immersive content/ Stereo 180 video that’s even more exciting if they can get it to stream live sports and concerts.
Very well made video Thanks! I think 3D will come back in a big way, I don't like watching movies any other way now and I've spent well over 100$ just on the apple store. Its, "research". I know this is slightly off topic, but you have any recommendations on hardware for capturing 8k 180 or equivalent like the apple immersive videos? I don't find the iphone or vision spacial video compelling enough.
@@WaitingRoomSynthesis haha! I’m using “it’s research” moving forward. Good question. For professional work I’ve seen folks use a canon mirrorless with their duel fisheye lens.
i don't see people buying an apple vision pro just to watch 3d movies with a unproven selection genres of new and retro classic cinema and tv shows that people would like to watch. i have ideas that major studios like universal might be interest in doing.
3D movies on AVP are so good! I recently watched the Lion King and am re-watching some older titles that I’ve already seen ( Star Wars eps ). The Disney list is decent and in the effort vs reward battle, reward is now winning.
Can you help me understand: If you study the 3D movies available in the Vision Pro (Apple TV or whatever) and look at their Rotten Tomatoes scores, 90% of them are terrible (so many 13% - 25% on rotten tomatoes). I found the same thing in 2021 using a Quest and the Bigscreen app which rented 3D movies. My guess is that 3D is done to diversify these risky assets and to eck out a few more million dollars.... but why can't we get good movies in 3D?
LOL. Nice video but you crossed off extreme cost barriers for the average consumer... Let's think about that one. I have one and I don't even think that's true. You could say that other headsets make will exist, but they don't yet. The apple vision is the only one I know of that can stream these, and it isn't exactly affordable.
Ah! Totally agree with you. I could have done a better job clarifying why I crossed that one off because it was not in reference to the Vision Pro. It was about access to a 3D setup in general (Projector + 3D Blu Ray + glasses) which can all be purchased new or used at a far more reasonable consumer price than back in 2010 / Vision Pro.
There are 4k 3D televisions so that is inaccurate. Bigscreen VR has been around since 2016 and has had a much bigger impact on 3D movies than the Apple Vision Pro that has only sold 60k-80k units. Yes, you can now stream higher quality 3d movie files on Apple Vision Pro, but nobody is going to bother distributing to a user base of less than 100,000 people, and Apple didn't seem to invent any of the codecs you mention, so Apple Vision Pro at best is nothing more than a very limited use device that is capable of running the digital 3D movies in 4k, but so are many other headsets, especially in that price point. The Pimax Crystal Super releases this year 3840x3840 per eye panels available in Qled or Micro Oled with superior Glass Aspheric lenses and only costs $2k. As a PCVR headset. The Crystal Light has a per eye resolution of 2880x2880 a variable refresh rate of 120 Hz, Glass Aspheric lens (superior to AVP's Pancake lens) and has QLED screens, and is only $900. So what exactly did Apple Vision Pro do other than making a backroom distribution exclusivity deal with Disney?
Anyone who thinks the people who couldn't bear wearing light weight 3D glasses for 2hrs in 2010 are going to spend $3500 to wear a brick on their face to solitarily watch 3D content is delusional at best. As a 3D TV enthusiast from back in 2010, my recommendation to revive 3D TV is to create a new 1080p HDR 3D content standard streamed at 120hz. This allows inexpensive TVs to become 4k/120hz 3D TVs that offer polarized screens and cheap 3D glasses. This eliminates flicker, insures a bright image, lightweight glasses, and low costs for content, hardware manufacturer/ consumers, thus eliminating every complaint from 2013.
Hey WRN FILM, I have a question, but you don't need to answer it if you don't want to. Do you have a form of dyslexia? In the video you will sometimes miss out phonemes from words, or misspell them. I am asking this out of genuine curiosity, of course there is nothing wrong with having it. (and if anyone thinks otherwise they suck). Anyway, I have always enjoyed 3d movies, especially 3D max which looks more three dimensional than regular 3D. I hope 3d movies will stick around.
Not as far as I’m aware, but then again I don’t think I’ve ever been tested so 🤷. Spelling errors on my videos at the very least point to poor QC on my end. I type out these titles very fast while editing just to have them where they need to be. I need to take the time to spell / grammar check them.
We just need movies shot in 180° 🤦 you can keep all the focus in the center for flat media and the extra dimension for a more immersive experience in vr. You can have whole movie theaters with vr headsets without the worry of people wondering what's behind them. If you're not into the headset you can always continue watching the movie on the screen duh I'm seriously wondering why it's taking so long for people to figure this out 😤
Someone just sold me an 1,800$ Panasonic 3D plasma TV last week for 40$. I’m waiting for the glasses to get here. I Love my PSVR2 but I wish I could watch 3D movies on it. Seems like a really big missed opportunity by Sony. If Sony offered HFR 3D movie streaming for the PSVR2 like Apple does with the Vision pro I would absolutely use my PSVR2 for watching movies. The flat 2D large screen feature is boring compared to the actual VR games.
@@Gamer-kn7fi I only have an ultrabook with integrated graphics. It has USB-C but my PC doesn’t recognize it. Maybe after I download the steam app will it recognize it? Or do I need a graphics card?
eh?...so...180 3D on then quest isnt ...eh...good?...try some xxx and get back to me...we ALL know that is the key :D sorry, but that´s the truth and you know it :D
Do you even like 3D?
i surely do, but i can't afford a vision pro...btw, the 3d mode in vision pro is autostereoscopic or not???
@@yannisgk same! No , the 3D isn’t auto-stereoscopic. It’s 2 separate OLEDs converged by the built in lenses.
@@WRNFILM i made a mistake...i meant if it had the autostereoscopic effect....sorry!!!
No.
I love it.
@@westmcgee9320 lol...right!!!
Watching 3D on vision pro was unlike any 3D I've ever seen hands down. Clearly the future of movie making.
I own an AVP and love it so much for movies. And 3D movies are absolutely insane. I love in France and the 3D movie list is pretty light. I’m praying for this list to grow, because once you’ve seen a movie in 3D on this device, I can’t watch it again in 2D with it. Image is perfect, especially in the cinema environment. Crazy. Even better than in the movie theater.
The only problem is that as long as the AVP is a niche product, it’s not going to be a quick process …
I absolutely love 3D, just wish manufacturers would add that functionality back in modern TV’s instead of relying on a 2016 TV or older… 🙁
I would easily pay the extra money for that
I bought a Vision Pro when It came out, and the 3D movies alone was almost enough for me to keep it. If there were more of them, I would have. It was mind-blowing then, can only imagine what it will be like in the future.
The only movie theater than can compare to this is one with just Vision Pros in every seat instead of a screen.
I bought a couple 3D tvs both passive and active, my active one is even 4K, but its when I got a projector that truly immersed me into the picture, I have over 200 3D blurays now and watching them in 3D is the best experience over 4K and 2D imo, I'd more than welcome a new home media format and would happily rebuy movies I already own
How were the 3D TVs? Are the reviews I referenced in the video relatively accurate in your opinion or by the time you purchased the 4K model had the tech improved?
@@WRNFILM yeah you got them mostly right, not a lot wrong, the "problem" with passive 3D TV sets was that some of them required you to be directly in the "sweet spot" to get zero ghosting (crosstalk), my passive 3D TV has this issue, so even if you're in the sweet spot,if items had more depth in or out of the screen you would see ghosting, it's a shame and diminishes some of the 3D effect, but if you can live with it its fine, some passive 3D tvs have zero crosstalk, but you have to get the right models, 4k 3D passive models solved the resolution issue as half of 2160 is 1080p, the 3D 4k oleds are said to be the best 3D experience when it comes to 3D TVs. A plus on passive 3D TVs is motion since you don't have to rely on flickering and frames, the TV is able to move nice and smooth with zero stuttering
For the 4K active 3D TV it's almost the same thing, the plus is you don't have to be in a sweet spot, and you can sit far or close as you want, the 3D 4K image (even though I know 3D Blu-rays are 1080p) look stunning, crisp, and sharp, colours and contrast are very nice, the problem is the limitations of the LCD display technology as the screen itself doesn't change frames fast enough to compensate for the ghosting, so there is ghosting, I mostly see it in very high contrast items like lights and texts, if the 3D strength is too strong and volumetric then you also see ghosting around said object. I don't have a problem with the active shutter glasses since I'm used to it on my projector, but if they sold emitters for existing TVs to make them 3D, they'd have to be active, I would buy one for my oled since the screen response time on oleds are instant, this removes the ghosting issue, and modern TVs now have black frame insertions which would also help eliminate the ghosting issue for non-oleds
@@Lighthouse3D thanks so much for your breakdown!
@@WRNFILMI have an LG 4k TV with passive 3D, I bought it right when LG announced their next TVs would not have 3D. It’s far better than the active 3D TV I had before, and the passive format doesn’t lose resolution like the first passive TVs did. There is still a bit of ghosting however.
I’m a huge fan of 3D though, I have nearly every 3D Blu-ray that was put out. Plenty of new movies are still being made in 3D but not many have been released for home viewing now, which means I’ve been buying far fewer movies altogether.
If my TV ever dies I’ll have no choice but to get a projector with 3D. I have zero interest in watching movies on a head-mounted device.
@@WRNFILM
Dude your portrayal of 3DTV's is way off. Yes the first batch of 3DTVs sucked but they improved over time. You didn't mention the fact that their are 2 formats for 3DTVs. Active 3DTVs were the ones that required glasses that needed charging. Passive TVs were the second format that came out that uses the exact same glasses that theaters used and didn't need to be charged. I have a Passive 3DTV and the quality of the 3D is amazing.
I think that people should really be focused on having Apple give us a 3D display.
Love watching 3D movies on my Vision Pro. Avatar 2 in HFR and 3D in the Vision Pro is a mind blowing experience. It’s really reinvigorated my interest in watching 3D movies. It’s honestly really great.
Thanks for calling this Next Gen 3D. It encapsulates everything I’m expecting (and about to start creating) with headsets as the “new TV”. This is like colour TV then HDTV then 4K HDR.
I don't know why Quest doesn't do this anyways? I still watch 3-D Blurays on my PS4 om PSVR and it looks seller still!
I’m passionate about anything 3D, from still photos to feature-length films. Unfortunately, I’m limited by what's available and what I can afford. I have a mini projector capable of 3D, but it loses that ability if the keystone is adjusted. My Xbox can play 3D content, but I don’t have a compatible TV monitor. I also have Xreal Air, though it's finicky with 3D content. Recently, I got the Lume Pad 2, which is probably the best 3D viewing device I’ve had so far-at least until I can afford the Vision Pro.
See gravity movie in moon environment, you'll be amazed
I saw Gravity in 3D on PCVR and it was amazing. The screen size took up my entire vison and I felt the rotation of the characters during certain scenes.
As far as I'm concerned, 3D movies that are only available in a DRM-locked, eye-scanner-only AVP format are basically lost media :( I'm so glad distributors are still releasing some titles on 3D Blu-ray, as at least those can be archived and played on many different devices.
I think you can also watch this archived 3D movies on vision pro.
Good to see someone talking about 3D! As an aspiring indie 3D film-marker (analog and cgi) I should really study this codec stuff more. Thoughts on 3D tablets like the Lume Pad 2? It can display 3D RUclips videos and a bunch of other things without glasses needed. Pretty sick. Tech is still pretty clunky though. Can’t wait for apple to drop a 3D iPad.
Apple put together this video discussing MV-HEVC for developers, but there some good takeaways here for filmmakers.
ruclips.net/video/avTt7Pz1lgc/видео.htmlsi=QYItplGGjMxkIHRU
I think 3D tablets and glasses free 3D is very exciting, but not ready for the mainstream yet.
Just wanted to drop in and say that all the Marvel Studios 3D titles on the Apple VisionPro have been remastered for UHD resolution and HDR 1000-nit color (to closely match the 2D HDR versions). As you note, this is the highest quality version of 3D Marvel has ever released (including theatrical).
@@ejfilm thank you for adding this clarification. Would love to hear more about the process of how these remasters were made if you have the time.
The reason why 3D movies look impressive on Apple vision pro is because of the pixel density of the lenses. There was a single CES where 3D 8KTVs were shown in prototype form without the need for 3D glasses. People were blown away only for us to never hear from the tech ever again.
pfff yes and no. No TV or theater can compete with a vision pro on movies. It's literally that good. Sadly a handful of movies, no sports, and nothing else limits it at the moment. Coming though.
3D on AVP isnt magic. Compared with going to an IMAX theater, its a pick your poison scenario. AVP eliminates most visual crosstalk (Flicker) due to separate lenses, but has a low refresh rate (100hz). 3D content on AVP offers great contrast and sharper image, but in a smaller field of view, and worse audio. IMAX theaters by comparison offer a higher refresh rate (144hz), seating with greater field of view, better audio, lower price of entry, and the ability for social interation.
Watching 3D movies in Apple Vision Pro is one of the best movie viewing experiences I’ve ever had
3D video will be overtaken by VR movies
Bought a used Vision Pro 256 for $1900 on marketplace. At that price, I'm very pleased with it. The 3D movies and *especially* immersive video, is incredible. At $3500 plus tax? Hell no. Not worth it at all.
Nice get! Excited to see the future of immersive video. Apple seems very bullish on it.
Would you go to a theatre for 25$ to watch a 3D movie on AVP?
@@prabhjotkohli5678 depends on the movie but it’s a personal device. Not sure I’d want one on my face worn by the public 8 hours a day.
My C6 OLED with was the last OLED with passive 3D. Add in my Oakley Gascan 3D glasses and Oppo 3D Blu-Ray player. This is currently the best I have seen. The quest 3 3D is great, but I still prefer the C6. I haven't tried the Apple Vision Pro yet. The price is way to high for the limited capabilities of the device.
Not buying that TV is one of my biggest home theater regrets.
I can't even find one used I need! Lol
The one thing I don't like about 3D movies on Apple Vison Pro is the fact that their is no ownership of anything. Studios can take their content off the platform tomorrow and your left with nothing but memory's. Even though 3D Blu-rays don't look as good as what's on Vison Pro. You still own it at the end of the day and its not going to disappear over night like what's happen with so many digital forms of media on other platforms.
Unfortunately digital is the future. Most people actually don't have or use physical media players anymore. The last 2 generations really don't bother with DVD or Bluray players and quite frankly it won't be long before there is nothing to connect these devices to. TV's last about 10 years, and in about 5 years, everyone will have some form of head mounted display, so TVs will be obsolete. Meta Orion has already been shown as a working prototype of Meta Holographic glasses. The Snapchat Spectacles 24 are already available. Google, Samsung and Qualcom are partnering on a AR device. Cell phones will be worn on peoples faces within a couple years, and even the elderly will have adopted AR glasses by 2030.
While 1080p 3d blu rays are cool to have, I have some myself, I just don't think they will be a useful item in 15 years, when all of the televisions are breaking down. In fact... most of the 3d tvs have already started breaking down. 3d cinema is not going to be held back to 1080p resolution and tech isn't going to restrain itself to what televisions can handle. With HMDs everyone will already have 3d displays and 2D is going to feel old and retro, just like black and white movies do now. Everything from home videos to Facebook feeds to Amazon online shopping will be 3d.
Have about 100 3D Blu-rays and I still watch them regularly. And getting in wasn't terribly expensive, either. Nearly every piece of gear I had at the time was already 3D capable. PS4 and the original Xbox One. My (then) new BenQ projector. The only thing I needed were glasses - 20 dollars a pop. I still use this setup - and in my living room. And it's still the best way to watch 3D - and the whole family gets in on it. No $3500 headset required.
I just got my first two 3D blu rays when I purchased my projector. Avatar 2 and Dial M For Murder and both look fantastic. I had section on it that ultimately didn't make the edit, but I was extremely impressed.
what's the model of your Benq projector?thanks!!!
@@WRNFILM Not sure of your tastes but you mentioned Jaws 3D. I'm happy to report that the 3D Blu-ray of that is easily the preferred way to watch (I have a soft-spot myself). It's very well done considering the vintage. One thing to note as you go forward. I've found that whether the movie was shot in 3D or was a post-conversion began to matter very little as the tech matured. Post-conversions used software and it turned out that starting with a 2D image gave them more flexibility to manipulate the image. Films shot natively were locked into whatever they did during the actual shoot. So if they messed up during shooting, there wasn't much they could do to fix it in post. As such, at the end of the initial run of 3D we got some magnificent post-conversions - Top Gun and Jurassic Park, just to name a few.
@@yannisgk The 2016 BenQ HT2050. Believe it or not, they were actively selling this model (updated, of course) until very recently so they're not hard to find. They still go for about $800.
Huge JAWS fan. Haven’t seen the 3D version. I’ll have to add it to the list.
I love watching my 3d blurays on my quest 3, but i would love to be able to get the 4k 3d content. So it needs to come to more platforms, and/or Apple needs to get an actually affordable vision device out to the world!
Agreed. Would love to see more platforms streaming these copies. Hell, I’d like Apple to let folks stream these versions on their Apple TV 4K.
@@WRNFILM there seems to be no hardware component for mv hevc as there is a Media player for it on Quest it's called 4XVR
Since autostereoscopic (glasses free) 3D works a lot better on handheld screens than on TVs, it would be cool if Nintendo included an autostereoscopic screen in the Switch 2. Video games could then optionally use the stereoscopic effect or not. But of course Nintendo has moved on from 3D so they won't include it.
I record home movies in 3D using my iPhone. They are amazing on my Vision Pro.
Hmmm So we are flawed by the necessity of the vision pro just to watch the perfect 3D codec? Is there any word where the hevc codec could work on something like a set of Xreal pro AR glasses? They are more comfortable than the large headsets.
The form factor is still a giant non starter for consumers.
Absolutely. It's up to other companies (hardware and streamers) to implement the 10bit MV-HEVC and DV Profile 20. Neither of those are Apple's.
I think you're right on the consumer level but you still have some of us who prefer VR headsets for movies and the like. I would get another headset before I'd get glasses. Actually, the hololens is really cool, especially for sports but I'd still go Vision Pro.
I've been making 3D Home Videos since 2011 and I'm watching this video in 3D on my Leia Lume Pad 2 3D Tablet 🤗
This was a very well made video, thank you! I have been echoing the same sentiment for a while now, and now that projectors and XR glasses are taking over the market - its only a matter of time until content providers make 3D content more accessible, or pirates figure out how to rip 3D video off of the AVP.
Do make more videos man, and would love to follow you on socials!
Thanks! RUclips is my only social media platform for my content but if you’d like to follow me on instagram I’m @joeawarner
Video was so nerdy and technical I almost forgot about you saying you would show the dog. Lol. Great Job on this one! Really enjoyed it, you have a new subscriber.
@@TriforceofShadows thank you haha! I strive for the most nerdy content on RUclips
I'm a huge fan of 3d I bought a few years ago a lg 4k 3d tv its not the best and has issues but its good for 3d Blu-ray
*T2 3D Battle Across Time should come to AVP.*
Y E S !
I don't see IMAX and Dolby Cinemas as a competition to 3D but rather as an enhancement since they already support 3D for a long time. My favorite way of watching 3D that's non VR would be IMAX 3D that uses dual laser projection so it supports 4K, HDR and HFR as well. (I also love 4DX even more for more sensical enhancements but unfortunately it isn't offered with that same visual immersion that you get from IMAX 3D yet).
But I agree VR is definitely the future of immersive motion picture content it's just gonna take a while for it to become the standard cause currently 3,500 USD is way too expensive for the masses which is why people will still use their 2D screens for a while.
I HATED 3d until getting the Vision Pro. Now I want everything in 3d but only on the AVP not in theaters.
I have a Meta Quest 3, and I love 3D movies. I am very disappointed that Mad Max: Fury Road and Dune 2 are not being released in 3D blu-ray. I have hopes for the future with both Meta Quest and AVP.
I can play back self-made 4K 3D content in SBS format on my active 3D 4K Samsung TV from a decade ago. While it's half 4K resolution from being in SBS format, it's still twice that of full HD 3D and looks amazing & also supports high frame rates while in 3D mode. There's no technical reason this couldn't have been done years ago, and UHD 3D movies could be sold right now on UHD Blu-ray in SBS or over/under format for use on these old screens.
Awesome video. Couldn't agree more. I just found you channel and love your aesthetic. Keep on!
Thanks!!
This was a great video, very helpful to understand the journey of 3D for movies and I now know why I’m addicted to watching 3D on Apple Vision Pro.
Also we have apple immersive content/ Stereo 180 video that’s even more exciting if they can get it to stream live sports and concerts.
Very well made video Thanks! I think 3D will come back in a big way, I don't like watching movies any other way now and I've spent well over 100$ just on the apple store. Its, "research". I know this is slightly off topic, but you have any recommendations on hardware for capturing 8k 180 or equivalent like the apple immersive videos? I don't find the iphone or vision spacial video compelling enough.
@@WaitingRoomSynthesis haha! I’m using “it’s research” moving forward.
Good question. For professional work I’ve seen folks use a canon mirrorless with their duel fisheye lens.
Let's just pretend the Meta Quest headsets and ar glasses with 3D and micoled don't exist for less. ☺️
@@MobileDecay hopefully Apple / Dolby opens up were these 4K copies can screen for the Meta Quest soon.
In apple vision is perfect ❤❤❤❤
I have always loved 3-D movies.
I was about to say, you forgot the dog clip. 😂
i don't see people buying an apple vision pro just to watch 3d movies with a unproven selection genres of new and retro classic cinema and tv shows
that people would like to watch. i have ideas that major studios like universal might be interest in doing.
Totally agree. Buying an AVP for this just this feature would be a terrible investment.
3D movies on AVP are so good! I recently watched the Lion King and am re-watching some older titles that I’ve already seen ( Star Wars eps ). The Disney list is decent and in the effort vs reward battle, reward is now winning.
I think “effort vs reward” has been one the biggest issues for 3D and AVP might just shift the scales in 3D’s favor.
So that profile could possibly be used by other people?
I’m picking up a camera today to film this stuff in 8K60
What camera are you using?
Really impressive video! Keep up the great work dude
I care! I cared then but it just wasn't ready. I watched Pacific Rim 3D on my quest 3 and it's pretty amazing. I bet it's even better on vision pro
Exactly… like I can watch it on my Nintendo 3ds
Can you help me understand: If you study the 3D movies available in the Vision Pro (Apple TV or whatever) and look at their Rotten Tomatoes scores, 90% of them are terrible (so many 13% - 25% on rotten tomatoes). I found the same thing in 2021 using a Quest and the Bigscreen app which rented 3D movies. My guess is that 3D is done to diversify these risky assets and to eck out a few more million dollars.... but why can't we get good movies in 3D?
@@ozten haha that’s above my pay grade! But I hear ya. Especially if you are streaming 3D via Vudu (fandango). Slim pickings.
All my photos are now in Pano, and my videos are in spatial mode
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LOL. Nice video but you crossed off extreme cost barriers for the average consumer... Let's think about that one. I have one and I don't even think that's true. You could say that other headsets make will exist, but they don't yet. The apple vision is the only one I know of that can stream these, and it isn't exactly affordable.
Ah! Totally agree with you. I could have done a better job clarifying why I crossed that one off because it was not in reference to the Vision Pro.
It was about access to a 3D setup in general (Projector + 3D Blu Ray + glasses) which can all be purchased new or used at a far more reasonable consumer price than back in 2010 / Vision Pro.
Great video made all the more better with dog footage
@@Somebodycousin She is the real star of the show
There are 4k 3D televisions so that is inaccurate.
Bigscreen VR has been around since 2016 and has had a much bigger impact on 3D movies than the Apple Vision Pro that has only sold 60k-80k units.
Yes, you can now stream higher quality 3d movie files on Apple Vision Pro, but nobody is going to bother distributing to a user base of less than 100,000 people, and Apple didn't seem to invent any of the codecs you mention, so Apple Vision Pro at best is nothing more than a very limited use device that is capable of running the digital 3D movies in 4k, but so are many other headsets, especially in that price point. The Pimax Crystal Super releases this year 3840x3840 per eye panels available in Qled or Micro Oled with superior Glass Aspheric lenses and only costs $2k. As a PCVR headset. The Crystal Light has a per eye resolution of 2880x2880 a variable refresh rate of 120 Hz, Glass Aspheric lens (superior to AVP's Pancake lens) and has QLED screens, and is only $900. So what exactly did Apple Vision Pro do other than making a backroom distribution exclusivity deal with Disney?
Friday the 13th 3 was 3D too.
My favorite 3D movie. When he squeezed dudes eye out.... damn.
Anyone who thinks the people who couldn't bear wearing light weight 3D glasses for 2hrs in 2010 are going to spend $3500 to wear a brick on their face to solitarily watch 3D content is delusional at best.
As a 3D TV enthusiast from back in 2010, my recommendation to revive 3D TV is to create a new 1080p HDR 3D content standard streamed at 120hz. This allows inexpensive TVs to become 4k/120hz 3D TVs that offer polarized screens and cheap 3D glasses. This eliminates flicker, insures a bright image, lightweight glasses, and low costs for content, hardware manufacturer/ consumers, thus eliminating every complaint from 2013.
Hey WRN FILM, I have a question, but you don't need to answer it if you don't want to. Do you have a form of dyslexia?
In the video you will sometimes miss out phonemes from words, or misspell them. I am asking this out of genuine curiosity, of course there is nothing wrong with having it. (and if anyone thinks otherwise they suck).
Anyway, I have always enjoyed 3d movies, especially 3D max which looks more three dimensional than regular 3D. I hope 3d movies will stick around.
Not as far as I’m aware, but then again I don’t think I’ve ever been tested so 🤷.
Spelling errors on my videos at the very least point to poor QC on my end. I type out these titles very fast while editing just to have them where they need to be.
I need to take the time to spell / grammar check them.
We just need movies shot in 180° 🤦 you can keep all the focus in the center for flat media and the extra dimension for a more immersive experience in vr. You can have whole movie theaters with vr headsets without the worry of people wondering what's behind them. If you're not into the headset you can always continue watching the movie on the screen duh I'm seriously wondering why it's taking so long for people to figure this out 😤
Someone just sold me an 1,800$ Panasonic 3D plasma TV last week for 40$. I’m waiting for the glasses to get here. I Love my PSVR2 but I wish I could watch 3D movies on it. Seems like a really big missed opportunity by Sony. If Sony offered HFR 3D movie streaming for the PSVR2 like Apple does with the Vision pro I would absolutely use my PSVR2 for watching movies. The flat 2D large screen feature is boring compared to the actual VR games.
if you connect it to a pc you should be able to watch 3d movies on the psvr2
@@Gamer-kn7fi I only have an ultrabook with integrated graphics. It has USB-C but my PC doesn’t recognize it. Maybe after I download the steam app will it recognize it? Or do I need a graphics card?
@@filipmartinez1162 you need the PC adapter
@@filipmartinez1162 you would need a PC adapter but I've with that you wouldnt have enough power to run it
Number 1 reason I no longer choose 3D anymore: dim image. It’s slightly duller and the 3D is only for tricks. It doesn’t really adds to the story
This doesn't happen with Headsets. Even the psVR looks amazingly bright and vibrant it's just the polarization that makes it dim
eh?...so...180 3D on then quest isnt ...eh...good?...try some xxx and get back to me...we ALL know that is the key :D sorry, but that´s the truth and you know it :D
You totally missed out meta Occulus quest 2 Big Screen 3D movies. That was the first place I experienced proper 3D films. Apple has just copied meta
I have yet to try AVP 3D but I’m not impressed by my Quest 3 3D movies. I think it’s just a gimmick.
Just get to the point, I’m not watching this whole thing… geez
3D is a gimmick. The need for glasses is why it will never be more than a gimmick.