Re 'Illang'- no one expects a happy ending in any Korean film, it's kind of their trade mark to lose the main characters, but this one went against that trend. Great review on this franchise, thank you.
Hello my name is Johan, I’m an actor in East Asian Film industry, I saw your channel and I gladly subscribed to your channel, I like your efforts you put about the Asian film industry. The Panzer Cop saga is interesting, just finished watching The Red Spectacles and little surprised that its less known. Anyway keep up the good work and looking forward to see more.
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 I'm just surprised that it never got an adaptation that was anime or ova. I think right now, considering the political climate..its perfect
@@terminatorofbaal7853 It seems there were such discussions at some point according to some old Oshii interviews. But, obviously, it didn't work out. I agree with you: given the current political environment and the cult status the armour has gained all over the world, OAV or anime would certainly be successful commercially. Maybe they consider it too old fashioned and too "niche". A misjudgement in my opinion. Still, if there is enough noise about it from fans, it can still happen in the future.
I think the martial art fights in Illang is more in line in tge kerberos universe than the og films where the mc can splits people in half with his martial arts. Them wearing shades makes it more look like a Matrix scene made back in the 80s
That's an interesting take on it. But, if I think it doesn't fit with the Kerberos universe, it's less to do with its execution (which, indeed, is fine) and more with the tone. It's all about politics, betrayal and the search of oneself humanity. The action is much more subdued. And with Illang, it felt like Kim Jee-Woon wanted to finish the film in a classic action blockbuster way, which felt weird to me. Maybe if he had done his own take in the Kerberos universe, more action oriented from the start, rather than remaking Jin Roh, it could have worked better.
Is there any more info about panzer jager? all i can find it the wikipedia pages and the sources it links to don't help much. it seems like a really interesting story but i don't speak japanese so i have no idea how i'd be able to learn more about it.
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Many people have expressed the same wish. It's really strange no publisher has decided to get it translated given the cult status of the Kerberos Panzer Cops universe. But we can still hope it will finally happen at some point! Have a good watch of Stray Dog!
Illang me enseñó que puedo desperdiciar millones de dólares en adaptar una película pero que tiro a la basura casi todo lo que le da sentido en la historia de trasfondo. En cierto modo concuerdo en muchos puntos del vídeo pero no se si sea por escuchar mal pero no se si mencionaste que Jin Roh ocurría en los 50's, que es un dato erróneo porque ocurre en 1995 porque están hablando del final de la organización. Pienso que es la mejor de la trilogía a pesar de Oshii no la dirigió y en cierta parte me alegra porque la película anterior es mala, pero me hubiese gustado que siquiera esos fondos en hacer Illang hubiese sido mejor recibido si es que le daban la chance a Oshii a siquiera ser una parte importante del rodaje. Stray Dog Kerberos Panzer Cop llega a tener un error que no me dejó disfrutar la película y es la mediocre actuación de Tang-Mie que además no posee algo significativo más que ser el nexo entre Inui y Koichi, y a veces la pelicula se sentía hacía ciertamente como al final de la película que muestran una base de Kerberos en Taiwán, considerando que no podían salir ni de la capital, además del error que dice: "Verano de 1991 Koichi Todome vuelve a Japón" que en realidad es 2001. además de que hay una novela de Kerberos qué no se realmente donde encaja con la línea de eventos principal. the Red Spectacles sin duda me gusta mucho porque a pesar de su comedia me parece una buena película porque muestra los pensamientos de Koichi y como se imaginaba que sería su aventura. muy buen video a pesar de que no domino el inglés. un abrazo amigo y gracias por hacer llegar esta saga a otros rincones.
Very nice explanation. do you have any sources on volume 2 or the part 2 manga?. I heard that in the volume 2 plot it was explained that Tetsuro kai in the introduction of part 2 was the leader of a jgsdf new panzer jager unit (molosser unit to be precise) went undercover in Kerberos training academy
Thanks! I'll check in my notes. But it was not easy to get precise info on the second part of the manga so I tried to combine different sources to have clearer idea of its content. Still, nothing would replace a real release of the manga with a proper translation. One can hope it will happen at one point! I'll post again if I manage to find it.
Thanks! Unfortunately, there isn't much in English on the subject. The best ressource I have find is a fan blog which sums up some of the many books dedicated to Oshii in Japan and which gives you a fascinating glimpse about the man's influences and thinking: ehoba.hatenablog.com/archive
It's from the Gantz Perfect Answer OST (the second live adaptation made of the manga) by Kenji Kawai. I haven't an english name for the track but in japanese it's 無限軌道, 6th track on the official release of the OST. Both OST of the Gantz films by Kawai are real hidden gems in his discography.
In the Kerberos universe, it was Germany that won WW2 and they fulfilled a similar role the the US in establishing an occupation in Japan, though by the time the stories take place the occupation force has left.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 Germany didn't won, in this timeline, Operation Valkyrie was a success, Hitler was killed and Germany joined the Allies.
Re 'Illang'- no one expects a happy ending in any Korean film, it's kind of their trade mark to lose the main characters, but this one went against that trend. Great review on this franchise, thank you.
Hello my name is Johan, I’m an actor in East Asian Film industry, I saw your channel and I gladly subscribed to your channel, I like your efforts you put about the Asian film industry. The Panzer Cop saga is interesting, just finished watching The Red Spectacles and little surprised that its less known. Anyway keep up the good work and looking forward to see more.
Hi Johan, thanks for your nice comment and glad you like the channel! All the best for your acting career!
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 thank you too 😊🙏🏻 hope you have a great day today 👍🏻
God damn that opening was good it felt so tense
Kenji Kawai's music certainly helped on that regard ;-)
I would kill for that armor.
the ones wearing it would too XD
約30年前からプロテクトギアのマニアです。ケルベロスのことをここまで知ってるのに驚きました！とても素晴らしい動画です。今の日本の若者が知らない過去の事件からの考察や知識が凄いです！出渕豊のデザインと押井守のセンスが融合した世界観に引きずり込まれます。
どうもありがとうございます!
There needs to be an anime for this series based on the manga
If only a producer could hear you!
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 I'll get the script started
@@terminatorofbaal7853 Haha go for it man! ;-)
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 I'm just surprised that it never got an adaptation that was anime or ova. I think right now, considering the political climate..its perfect
@@terminatorofbaal7853 It seems there were such discussions at some point according to some old Oshii interviews. But, obviously, it didn't work out. I agree with you: given the current political environment and the cult status the armour has gained all over the world, OAV or anime would certainly be successful commercially. Maybe they consider it too old fashioned and too "niche". A misjudgement in my opinion. Still, if there is enough noise about it from fans, it can still happen in the future.
I think the martial art fights in Illang is more in line in tge kerberos universe than the og films where the mc can splits people in half with his martial arts. Them wearing shades makes it more look like a Matrix scene made back in the 80s
That's an interesting take on it.
But, if I think it doesn't fit with the Kerberos universe, it's less to do with its execution (which, indeed, is fine) and more with the tone. It's all about politics, betrayal and the search of oneself humanity. The action is much more subdued. And with Illang, it felt like Kim Jee-Woon wanted to finish the film in a classic action blockbuster way, which felt weird to me. Maybe if he had done his own take in the Kerberos universe, more action oriented from the start, rather than remaking Jin Roh, it could have worked better.
Splitting someone in half was part of a dream, not reality.
Underrated
Is there any more info about panzer jager? all i can find it the wikipedia pages and the sources it links to don't help much. it seems like a really interesting story but i don't speak japanese so i have no idea how i'd be able to learn more about it.
The police budget is REAL.
Happy to have subscribed to your channel, helps me discover what I would not have known otherwise. Thanks! By the way, do you have patreon?
Thanks for your support!
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Thanks again!
Amazing vid!
Thanks! Glade you liked it!
the thousand-year reich, needs thousand-year soldiers.
i wish the manga was accessible. since i haven't watched stray dog yet i will watch this video later. i just wanted to say that
Many people have expressed the same wish. It's really strange no publisher has decided to get it translated given the cult status of the Kerberos Panzer Cops universe. But we can still hope it will finally happen at some point!
Have a good watch of Stray Dog!
thx for the vid
My pleasure! Glad you liked it!
Illang me enseñó que puedo desperdiciar millones de dólares en adaptar una película pero que tiro a la basura casi todo lo que le da sentido en la historia de trasfondo.
En cierto modo concuerdo en muchos puntos del vídeo pero no se si sea por escuchar mal pero no se si mencionaste que Jin Roh ocurría en los 50's, que es un dato erróneo porque ocurre en 1995 porque están hablando del final de la organización. Pienso que es la mejor de la trilogía a pesar de Oshii no la dirigió y en cierta parte me alegra porque la película anterior es mala, pero me hubiese gustado que siquiera esos fondos en hacer Illang hubiese sido mejor recibido si es que le daban la chance a Oshii a siquiera ser una parte importante del rodaje.
Stray Dog Kerberos Panzer Cop llega a tener un error que no me dejó disfrutar la película y es la mediocre actuación de Tang-Mie que además no posee algo significativo más que ser el nexo entre Inui y Koichi, y a veces la pelicula se sentía hacía ciertamente como al final de la película que muestran una base de Kerberos en Taiwán, considerando que no podían salir ni de la capital, además del error que dice:
"Verano de 1991 Koichi Todome vuelve a Japón" que en realidad es 2001.
además de que hay una novela de Kerberos qué no se realmente donde encaja con la línea de eventos principal.
the Red Spectacles sin duda me gusta mucho porque a pesar de su comedia me parece una buena película porque muestra los pensamientos de Koichi y como se imaginaba que sería su aventura.
muy buen video a pesar de que no domino el inglés.
un abrazo amigo y gracias por hacer llegar esta saga a otros rincones.
did Koichi Todome kill Eito Kurosaki in Kerberos Saga Rainy Dogs i been curious
Would love to know as well! Hopefully, someone will be able to answer.
Very nice explanation. do you have any sources on volume 2 or the part 2 manga?. I heard that in the volume 2 plot it was explained that Tetsuro kai in the introduction of part 2 was the leader of a jgsdf new panzer jager unit (molosser unit to be precise) went undercover in Kerberos training academy
Thanks!
I'll check in my notes. But it was not easy to get precise info on the second part of the manga so I tried to combine different sources to have clearer idea of its content. Still, nothing would replace a real release of the manga with a proper translation. One can hope it will happen at one point!
I'll post again if I manage to find it.
It's upsetting how little of Kerberos is translated or easy to find. Do you know where I could listen to Kerberos Panzer Jaeger?
Nice analysis, do you have any recommendations of literature or article about kerberos saga, especially StrayDog: Kerberos Panzer Corps?
Thanks! Unfortunately, there isn't much in English on the subject.
The best ressource I have find is a fan blog which sums up some of the many books dedicated to Oshii in Japan and which gives you a fascinating glimpse about the man's influences and thinking:
ehoba.hatenablog.com/archive
Thank you, sir
What’s the opening song for the Kerberos mood called?
It's from the Gantz Perfect Answer OST (the second live adaptation made of the manga) by Kenji Kawai. I haven't an english name for the track but in japanese it's 無限軌道, 6th track on the official release of the OST.
Both OST of the Gantz films by Kawai are real hidden gems in his discography.
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 Thanks
what's the name of the theme at 6:28
It's from The Red Spectacles OST: ruclips.net/video/BnjJTQYv5eo/видео.html
Where did you get the footage at 11:53?
The trailer is actually on Dailymotion: www.dailymotion.com/video/x4wqgl
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 thank you
Why do they have MG-3’ ( Hitlers buzzsaw)
To keep the German hardware inspiration I'm guessing.
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 well either way the gun is good at Tearing people apart
In the Kerberos universe, it was Germany that won WW2 and they fulfilled a similar role the the US in establishing an occupation in Japan, though by the time the stories take place the occupation force has left.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 ok
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 Germany didn't won, in this timeline, Operation Valkyrie was a success, Hitler was killed and Germany joined the Allies.
The video is mute
Just checked and the sound works fine. Are you sure it doesn't come from your side?
@@lamaisonducinemaasiatique4516 indeed it's working, for some reason it does not work on my phone
@@PerturaBased Weird... Enjoy it then! (just not on the phone ;-) )