The Illusion of Peace in Mamoru Oshii's Patlabor 2

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  • Опубликовано: 30 дек 2018
  • Here, I examine Mamoru Oshii's commentary on the nature of war and the illusion of peace in the 1993 film, Patlabor 2, by putting it into its historical context and attempting to see into the director's headspace. Enjoy!
    This video was edited by Christopher "MrNiesGuy" Nies. If you're interested, his commissions are open! Reach him on Twitter @MrNiesGuy.
    Sources:
    1993 Interview with Animage magazine: www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/inte...
    1996 Interview with Animerica magazine:
    listification.blogspot.com/201...
    Anderson, M. Oshii Mamoru’s Patlabor 2: Terror, Theatricality, and
    Exceptions That Prove the Rule (2009).
    Cooney, K. Japan's Foreign Policy Since 1945 (2006).
    Mulloy, G. Japan Self-Defense Forces’ Overseas Dispatch Operations in the 1990s: Effective International Actors? (2011).
    Ruh, B. Stray Dog of Anime: The Films of Mamoru Oshii (2004).
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  • @CaptStarlight
    @CaptStarlight 5 лет назад +720

    To quote another site: "You get the feeling that the Cyberpunk period happened a few years ago in-universe, and now everyone has to go back to work."

    • @Raum2901
      @Raum2901 2 года назад +22

      The quote is from the site Tv tropes when they tag Patlabor with "Post-cyberpunk"

  • @Rvoid
    @Rvoid 5 лет назад +794

    When I first watched it, I immediately loved that silent montage scene of JSDF patrolling the street of Tokyo. It just struck a chord within me. Fast forward many years later, I got the opportunity to study in Japan. After I finished my study and came home, I rediscover this scene.
    That chord suddenly became a haunting symphony.
    On thing that marked my experience in Japan, despite being so crowded is, how idle everything is. Everything works like a drama, scripted, predictable, hence every little deviation is so amusing. Imposing the image of tanks and armed soldiers upon those memory of idleness and peacefulness, made me appreciate how powerful the message Oshii has had tried to convey through that montage scene.

    • @Rvoid
      @Rvoid 5 лет назад +15

      @@ruhurtin4squrtin34 Ah, but I was merely expressing my subjective experience, in which by then, brought me anew to the context of Oshii's critique. My comment had not yet entered the discourse itself

    • @dragonsword7370
      @dragonsword7370 3 года назад +8

      Thanks for that observation friend. Definitely adds an extra layer for the media for us westerners to understand better.

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 2 года назад +3

      I'm not from Japan, but I know this "chorf" you said about.
      I'm from Poland, haven't lived in the period of PRL (the time when Soviet Russia owned Poland) and the scenes of tanks patroling streets of cities remind me of the photos from those days.

    • @DrownedInExile
      @DrownedInExile 2 года назад +12

      My favourite part of that silent montage? The mecha pilot waving to schoolchildren, while his gun-camera tracks his eye movement. I've always found that image particularly haunting.

  • @andrewchen7687
    @andrewchen7687 3 года назад +912

    When he talks about the Japanese peace keeping unit in Cambodia struggling with orders to shoot, this isn't really a uniquely Japanese thing. The UN is notorious for just trying to not engage in combat with either side of a conflict. Name literally every other genocide or conflict: Rwanda and Bosnia to name just the famous ones. The UN did jack shit there because they didn't want to take sides.

    • @willywampus3426
      @willywampus3426 3 года назад +89

      New resolution makes it for the un peacekeepers now to "shoot back" if they are being shot at, MINUSCA in Mali is basically a un and french controlled anti insurgency operation

    • @professionaldisappointment1654
      @professionaldisappointment1654 3 года назад +31

      I still wonder why they put such a heavy ROE on combat troops,might as well send police officers for PKO

    • @willywampus3426
      @willywampus3426 3 года назад +9

      @@professionaldisappointment1654 they did it in Sudan I think, in the Darfur region

    • @professionaldisappointment1654
      @professionaldisappointment1654 3 года назад +4

      @@willywampus3426 ouh this is cool,thanks for the knowledge

    • @Michael-mh2tw
      @Michael-mh2tw 3 года назад +21

      I prefer that to a UN that does pick sides. Grass is always greener.

  • @weirdy8
    @weirdy8 5 лет назад +936

    In my mind, this is still the greatest achievement of Oshii's career. One particular shot where a highly armed war machine is on standby and a group of children wave at the pilot sells this message you've dug deeper into. Great vid.

    • @tskmaster3837
      @tskmaster3837 5 лет назад +85

      I love that montage of the city under siege with the tanks among the city while the season moves from fall to winter. For me, the best shot is of one lone tank in a snow covered parking lot , foot prints in the foreground but a circle of untouched snow around the tank. Every other scene is commentary about martial law but this is the actual subject in one image. Military in private life, untouched by nature... literally in the case of bathroom breaks.

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga 5 лет назад +30

      @@tskmaster3837 The city wasn't "under siege" though. The very point was that it became a normal scene and people grew used to it after the first day or two.

    • @icipher6730
      @icipher6730 5 лет назад +4

      @@tskmaster3837 It's technically incorrect to call it a 'siege'.

    • @tskmaster3837
      @tskmaster3837 5 лет назад +33

      @@icipher6730 It is as much a siege as the Cold War was a war. And the correlation between the two was intentional.

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад

      pat2 has better animation than gits 95 although point of movie is pointless.

  • @mitrooper
    @mitrooper 5 лет назад +1958

    How I miss traditional animated Anime like this, especially the hand animated mecha... Thanks to CG, It's truly a dying art.

    • @Demanufactur3r
      @Demanufactur3r 5 лет назад +113

      One of the main reasons I return to these classic films time to time. Animation and design like this just breathes skill and love for the craft.

    • @laos85
      @laos85 4 года назад +21

      Pffff dying art? Are you joking me?

    • @kurisu3000
      @kurisu3000 4 года назад +115

      @@laos85 Cel animation is a dying art. It's cheaper for studios to use digital rather than Cel.

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 4 года назад +21

      @@kurisu3000 And can you blame them.

    • @laos85
      @laos85 4 года назад +9

      @@kurisu3000 cel animation or digital hand drawn animation only dies in a lazy company.

  • @jeremyweaver9598
    @jeremyweaver9598 5 лет назад +797

    As an American Combat Veteran, I LOVED this movie! But, I loved it long before I enlisted, in 1999. Some of the philosophical elements shaped my own beliefs as an American soldier. Great movie to watch, however, I agree, that most Americans won't "get it".

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад +17

      kudos. but the animation is why pat2 is amazing. even better than gits 95

    • @totorocatbus
      @totorocatbus 5 лет назад +1

      I see you're subscribed to CTH :)

    • @FortuneZer0
      @FortuneZer0 4 года назад +40

      I was just a peace time conscript but i absolutely agree. There is a deeper level in this movie most people cant quite resonate with. It is my favourite movie.

    • @mariuspoppFM
      @mariuspoppFM 4 года назад

      @@jb76489 He isn't

    • @militaristicsoldier856
      @militaristicsoldier856 4 года назад +7

      jb76489 okay kid

  • @FRODOGOOFBALL
    @FRODOGOOFBALL 4 года назад +155

    One of my favorite scenes in anime is in Patlabor 2 when a tank crew is watching civilians return to their homes, and in the end they are left alone in the snow. It's really the whole story of the cold war in a single image.

  • @Kagemusha08
    @Kagemusha08 5 лет назад +240

    Hugely underrated. In my opinion it edges Ghost in the Shell as Oshii's best work.

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад +4

      yes. i have been telling gits 95 fans that...at least animation wise.

    • @lilchinesekidchen
      @lilchinesekidchen 4 года назад +27

      TBH, ghost in the shell 2 was way better than the first. Oshii just has a habit of making amazing sequels that trump their first movie

    • @FauxtakuLounge
      @FauxtakuLounge 3 года назад

      It is possibly the best action anime out there.

    • @ohgodwhy9853
      @ohgodwhy9853 2 года назад +1

      agree.
      Oshii's personal best.

    • @ynraider
      @ynraider Год назад +2

      @@FauxtakuLounge Patlabour 1, War In The Pocket, Wings of Honneamise, Gunbuster("Ender's Game"-inspired?), Jin Roh: Wolf Brigade, Cannon Fodder(Memories anthology), GitS: SAC, and Cowboy Bebop Movie; also have insane military action sequences with brutal character context...
      PL2 is definitely Oshii's best work.

  • @simonlam33
    @simonlam33 2 года назад +157

    Movie released in 1996, and yet in 2022, the movie's political commentary still very relatable to current geo-political situation.

    • @ohgodwhy9853
      @ohgodwhy9853 2 года назад +5

      *93

    • @ynraider
      @ynraider Год назад

      Reminds me of 9/11 being an #InsideJob as well... and that was in 2001AD! Aerial attack on multiple Western Infrastructure/"War on Terror" and all...🤷🏿‍♂
      President Dick Cheney starting fake wars against CIA operatives from 1980s, specifically for US Military/Corporate/Civilain profit gains...
      #DystopiaNow

    • @rotritter
      @rotritter Год назад +4

      aged like wine indeed

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 10 месяцев назад +2

      Even more so in 2023, with Japan starting on what looks to be a significant re-armament program that will make them a regional military powerhouse if all goes as planned.

    • @kagami3665
      @kagami3665 4 месяца назад +4

      After the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, this movie feels more realistic; our peace is indeed built on bloodshed.

  • @ashmazyn
    @ashmazyn 5 лет назад +119

    The direction of this film is magnificent

  • @Jaqrkazi
    @Jaqrkazi 2 года назад +87

    Feels poetic watching this in 2021 with recent developments in Japan and the far east in general. It seems that, whether Japan wants to wake from the dream or not, reality is starting to force its way into the illusion in the form of the escalating situation in the south china sea.

  • @TheFufuway
    @TheFufuway 4 года назад +48

    I wish anime still looked this good today.

  • @WanderingMindSR
    @WanderingMindSR 4 года назад +107

    This is definitely some of the most damning commentary I have ever seen from anime as a whole. It's further compounded by the fact that a lot of works seem to shy away from this kind of political commentary. I studied Japanese history heavily during my university days and a lot of the film stuck out to me with what it was depicting and trying to convey. It's probably why despite being American, I was able to "get it". And I'd get more out of it on a second watch.

    • @Balladency95
      @Balladency95 3 года назад +2

      Thank for sharing that bit of thought. I also have that same sentiment, despite coming from the angle of localized social outcast.
      Honestly, sometimes I wonder if such contempt is justified, because in the end I'm just as powerless to make a difference. Feels a bit like a hypocrite who can only walk backwards in defiance...

  • @captainjosue
    @captainjosue 2 года назад +38

    The first Patlabor movie had echoes of Biblical prophecy while Patlabor 2 was shadowed under the historical context of the Japanese occupation and the questionable effectiveness of the UN. Absolutely brilliant work. I had to watch both movies multiple times to fully encapsulate the hidden messages within the movie. Some of the best anime of all time

  • @stephennootens916
    @stephennootens916 5 лет назад +312

    The Patlabor films often remind me of the Ghost in The Shell franchise (minus the live action movies) in the fact there is a lot heavy complex political action that on some level makes wish I was as smart as the characters in the anime. Maybe it's because I don't know the the government system as well as the one in my own country (America) which seems simple to me.

    • @totorocatbus
      @totorocatbus 5 лет назад +38

      Same director too!

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 5 лет назад +47

      Took a couple us government related classes, during highschool and collage currently. Long story short, they are just as fuck up, but on different issue. One big problem is in order to change the bad stuff, you need the people benefiting from the bad stuff vote to change the bad stuff (aka vote against themself), yea good luck on that.

    • @zeitgeistx5239
      @zeitgeistx5239 5 лет назад +15

      @@jintsuubest9331 too bad that they dont reach you that you dont live in a democracy. You live in a fake democracy where rural states gets 3 times the electoral votes per person that the most populous states. Good old America.

    • @desamster
      @desamster 5 лет назад +5

      I think it's more likely due to Mamoru Oshii's films being full of swollen, pretentious philosophical debate.

    • @DeathToJihad
      @DeathToJihad 5 лет назад +10

      Ghost in the Shell definitely has similar themes, and is kind of an anxious look at what might happen if the facade of false peace were to slip completely, and Japan couldn't even fall back on being a subordinate of the US.

  • @thecountofmontecristo2796
    @thecountofmontecristo2796 5 лет назад +142

    I heard that Shin Godzilla shows the issues of Japan's bureaucracy as well.

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 4 года назад +36

      It does, with painful accuracy

    • @MrBoygiles
      @MrBoygiles 4 года назад +38

      I believe it was made as a response to the Fukushima nuclear disaster, which was widely criticized for feet dragging and endless committees.

    • @guicho271828
      @guicho271828 2 года назад +3

      though it has some positive tone, with that cabinet resignation beam

    • @jmssun
      @jmssun 2 года назад +4

      Shin Godzilla is not a Kaiju film like people thought
      We need to see it as a Monster vs Monster film :
      An evolving monster in flesh form
      Vs
      an evolving monster of bureaucracy

    • @HonestObserver
      @HonestObserver 6 месяцев назад +3

      Interesting Akira, which also becomes a kaiju film, features a corrupt useless bureaucracy in charge of the city, and then a military coup. Lots of common themes

  • @martinlagrange8821
    @martinlagrange8821 5 лет назад +43

    Patlabor 2 is without doubt one of my favourite Anime films - and for all the reasons given. Its very grown up, and and my Japanese best friend tells me he struggles with some of the language used ! The deep seriousness of its theme is gives its tremendous stature even now. All three of the films are spectacular - and I heartily recommend WXIII-Wasted 13 (Patlabor 3) as one of the finest syntheses of detective story and SF-horror ever made in Anime (where SV2 are present only on the periphery, increasing the impact of the central story). Loved the analysis, and - I would point out - instantly understandable to yours truly !

  • @RioBrando_
    @RioBrando_ 5 лет назад +56

    Patlabor 2 is a work of art.

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад +2

      i found it better than gits 95 which states had a higher budget but looks cheaper..ie see background high rises.

  • @otastorian
    @otastorian 5 лет назад +122

    The Patlabor series is one of my all time favorites in all of media, and while I'll always hold the TV series as my favorite iteration, there's absolutely no denying that the pure artistry of Oshii's films blows it out of the water.
    This video definitely seemed different, so it makes to see MrNiesGuy was on editing here. I hope he comes back to do some more work with you in the future, because this came out fantastically. I've been hoping to see more focus on academia rather than pseudo-intellectualism and competent but mostly unresearched essays, and your channel was one that I could see paving the way for that. I look forward to seeing more stuff like this from you in the future!

  • @CBs-House
    @CBs-House 5 лет назад +68

    I watched this when I was young, maybe a few years after its release. I was just out of art school and I didn't learn or know anything politics whatsoever at university, but I liked Patlabor a lot. So of course I was excited to see a Patlabor movie but I didn't know at all what the heck I was watching. Thanks for explaining it, now that I'm actually middle aged and much smarter maybe I'll go back to it.

  • @Virginio_Carvalho
    @Virginio_Carvalho 4 года назад +19

    The Wyvern scene is one of most tense I have watch !!!!

    • @lazukk3735
      @lazukk3735 3 года назад +4

      That's one of the best fighter jet sceens in all of cinema

  • @Featinwe
    @Featinwe 5 лет назад +127

    I was kind-of shocked by the marshall law scenes - we had marshall law in my country (Poland) many years ago (before I was born), with similar scenes of tank on the streets, except it was't so nice for the people... this was also for a "phony peace" reasons... anyway, I wonder if Oshii was inspired by that. All in all around 10 years later he made a movie in Poland (Avalon). The scenes also heavily resembled those from Angel's Egg (which again was reminescent of Warsaw Uprising from WWII). Maybe i'm seeing too much :D great vid, it explained a lot!

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 4 года назад +2

      Jakub Badełek well that is an interesting take. i think you are right that must be an influence as well.

    • @cjmanson5692
      @cjmanson5692 5 месяцев назад

      > we had marshal law in my country (Poland) many years ago (before I was born), with similar scenes of tank on the streets, except it wasn't so nice for the people...
      Let me guess: The marshal law imposed by Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski against the people of Poland in an effort to crush the anti-communist Solidarity trade union, right?

  • @powerofberzerker9487
    @powerofberzerker9487 4 года назад +16

    Patlabor 2 is another Oshii's masterpiece I believe. The director is slowly becoming my all time fav one. I would recommend every movie that he directed, including the live-action features.

  • @finlaymiles9798
    @finlaymiles9798 5 лет назад +84

    what a way to start the new year!!!!

  • @85futureshock
    @85futureshock 3 месяца назад +3

    In an era were anime is afraid to grow up and where anything political would either be taboo or not considered commercial enough, the world needs a movie like Patlabor 2 more than ever.
    Sadly, it looks like we may never get a film like this again.

  • @charlestran7309
    @charlestran7309 5 лет назад +30

    They release this again in the cinemas because I would definitely go watch it. My favourite childhood Anime movie ever.

  • @RGordonHaase
    @RGordonHaase 3 года назад +5

    this is literally one of the best video essays I've ever seen on a piece of media, super well crafted and spoken, excellent sources and wonderful parallel visuals and edits. excellent work

  • @tacticalderpy2077
    @tacticalderpy2077 3 года назад +11

    I found this on DVD, in a dollar bin in 2018. Bought it on a whim. I thought it was fantastic. The story to the art to the sound.

  • @micheljavert5923
    @micheljavert5923 3 года назад +8

    A very very favorite movie of mine from so many years ago. It's the music and the visuals, I think. It is a quiet movie. Contemplative. There's a quote from it that has stuck with me for years: "It may be an immoral peace. Maybe an unjust peace. But an unjust peace is still better than a just war." I've always thought about about that line of thinking.

  • @DJDTHTRP
    @DJDTHTRP 4 года назад +8

    I always knew there was something special about it when I first watched it on Action Channel many years ago. The appreciation deepens so much when you understand all of the historical context. Fantastic job here.

  • @0002-g9m
    @0002-g9m 5 лет назад +284

    Peace can only exist because others are threatened with the alternative to peace. You can only reject violence because someone else carries out violence for you.

    • @elgerifico
      @elgerifico 5 лет назад +48

      Very well said. Heinlein also put it well:
      “Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and -- thoroughly immoral
      doctrine that violence never solves anything I would advise to conjure
      up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let
      them debate it. The ghost of Hitler would referee. Violence, naked
      force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor; and
      the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that
      forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and
      their freedoms.”
      Sadly, breeds like the author of this video, and traitors like Oshii, that would rather see Japan conquered and put under the yoke of a foreign power just to virtue signal, never get to experience the consequences of their idiocy because braver, better men spill blood to defend their right to be imbeciles.

    • @DP-fq7iy
      @DP-fq7iy 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks, I was going to post something similar.

    • @mariuspoppFM
      @mariuspoppFM 4 года назад +26

      The Heinlein quote is actually the point of the movie, moron

    • @deadby15
      @deadby15 4 года назад +12

      @@elgerifico The concept of nation state itself is a rather recent one, and I think it is quickly losing its significance in history.

    • @lilchinesekidchen
      @lilchinesekidchen 4 года назад +5

      adding to this, i would prefer a world where everyone is accountable to for their own violence instead of displacing it for other people to carry out for them, and then feeling beholden to the people who are violent for them.
      this is how police and army forces are created. how power is concentrated, and abused.
      there will always be violence in the world, I’d just prefer a world where we don’t professionalize it (through the creation of military and police careers)

  • @chrisbullock3504
    @chrisbullock3504 3 года назад +16

    This movie is probably my favorite piece of media ever made. its just such a deep, subtle thriller. and IMO the original dub is fantastic in both the writing and the VA's. This movie is relevant now more than ever.

    • @Jaytecx
      @Jaytecx 3 года назад +1

      That intro. Wow :-)

  • @aaaaaaaaaa97
    @aaaaaaaaaa97 2 года назад +23

    This movie still stays 100% relevant to today.

  • @Hyperion9700
    @Hyperion9700 Год назад +9

    Some of the scenes in this film outshine a lot of modern anime in terms of complexity and detail. It's a timeless masterpiece. If you don't like Mecha anime, this is the Mecha anime for you !

  • @davidgibson4901
    @davidgibson4901 4 года назад +2

    Patlabor 2 is one of my favorite animated films of all time, and this incredible video has added to my love for this movie by unlocking wonderful hidden depths. Very well done.

  • @oliverallen5324
    @oliverallen5324 5 лет назад +1

    this was really well done. I appreciate you citing sources beyond the film itself to give context to the critical elements of the story.
    Thank you.

  • @conchezness3744
    @conchezness3744 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for your brilliant analysis and breakdown of one of my favourite animes of all time. Not many appreciate the genius of this masterpiece in cinema

  • @zackbatcountry3361
    @zackbatcountry3361 3 года назад +10

    This is a rly well put together video ,it does an amazing job of deconstructing the movies themes interesting to see how a lot of these older anime were a warning of the future,our society , our reliance on technology and the loss of our our humanity

  • @ricardoalvesdeoliveira3761
    @ricardoalvesdeoliveira3761 4 года назад +2

    All these years and I didn't realise I couldn't fully grasp the depth of the movie. Now I have to rewatch it. Great video, thank you very much!

  • @maltejohnsson8578
    @maltejohnsson8578 4 года назад

    Thank you. This wss one of the best clips I have ever seen on RUclips. Awesome atmosphere, editing is great, cpmmentary puts the movie in a whole new perspective for me as a foreigner.

  • @Girthon1
    @Girthon1 5 лет назад +8

    A superb analysis of one of the true anime greats. Thank you!

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat 3 года назад +4

    Wow. This really deepened my understanding of the film, I knew about the premise and understood some of the commentary Oshii was trying to make (unjust peace versus just war is mentioned enough in the film that a clueless person like me can get it), but I feel like I get it more clearly now.

  • @Pichuscute
    @Pichuscute 5 лет назад +2

    Absolutely perfect video! Just watched this movie for the first time a few weeks ago and it's now easily one of my favorites. You absolutely nailed this video here.

  • @abhinandandutta2079
    @abhinandandutta2079 5 лет назад +1

    Patlabor 2 is one of my favorite movie. Thank you for covering this.

  • @Pewpewpew182
    @Pewpewpew182 4 года назад +16

    The scene with Goto discussing an "Unjust peace" is one of the most haunting scenes in all of cinema.
    Music, tone, presentation..... amazing.
    The 90s dub sold that whole film.

    • @shaesullivan
      @shaesullivan 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/r2sqdudEle4/видео.html

    • @inuyashason81
      @inuyashason81 Год назад +1

      One thing the defense force spook talked about to goto, the Hollywood chewing gum war, that is what I am trying to find out what he is talking about, there is cold war, civil wars, but Hollywood chewing gum war?

    • @juresaiyan
      @juresaiyan 10 месяцев назад +2

      I agree

  • @FurryWrecker911
    @FurryWrecker911 4 года назад +4

    Had to watch this movie twice to actually get it. I really wish there was more like this out there. Greatly enjoyed this.

  • @FolkAttorney67
    @FolkAttorney67 4 года назад

    By far the most amazing YT review I've come across and on one of my favorite animes. Great job sir!

  • @Hirogawa
    @Hirogawa 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this video. Patlabor is such an incredible series, and having someone break it down its movies, specially focusing on Oshii's superb insight, is incredible. I hope more people catch on this fantastic show because of your video.
    Once again, thank you very much.

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад

      yeah i asked a no of utube anime reviewers to do pat2 esp if they liked gits 95 but none did. but this reviewer didnt help me understand obvious message. by oshii.

  • @BeanyBabe420
    @BeanyBabe420 5 лет назад +4

    Great video that I think summarises a lot of this film's strongest aspects. This really is a fantastic film when viewed through the lens of post-WWII Japanese politics, that I think still holds value today.

  • @jasoncarroll7473
    @jasoncarroll7473 5 лет назад +5

    Just finished watching Patlabor 2 only an hour ago. This was perfect to show up in my suggestions. Excellent commentary on one of my favorite Anime films

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад

      did you think animation better than gits 95? and was it remastered?

  • @TheMightyPika
    @TheMightyPika 4 года назад +1

    My absolute favorite director. Thank you for this vid, it's fantastic.

  • @OneMoreMeme_INeedYou
    @OneMoreMeme_INeedYou 5 лет назад +1

    Patlabor is one of my favorite films, I’m glad you made such a comprehensive video on it!

  • @noiseworks
    @noiseworks 5 лет назад +3

    brilliant breakdown. the ambient music is a perfect match to the content. thanks!

  • @Zheesh7349
    @Zheesh7349 5 лет назад +22

    *Sigh* New entries on the "Plan to Watch" list, what a way to start the new year!On serious note, Thank you for showing this franchise! I didn't even know it existed probably because it was made in the "far past " of 1980's, but it really seems like a hidden gem. While I am here Happy New Year everyone!

    • @DrummerDucky
      @DrummerDucky 5 лет назад +1

      If you are ready to go back as far as the '30s, there are more than 200 movies made with the same creative intensity. It takes a while to find them out because most list are full of overbloated oscar-bait or underwritten "audience favorites".

    • @Zheesh7349
      @Zheesh7349 5 лет назад

      @@DrummerDucky Yeah i know there are countless gems hidden under the sands of time, but that is why it is always a welcome when our favorite youtubers talk about them :D

    • @DrummerDucky
      @DrummerDucky 5 лет назад

      @@Zheesh7349 Did you get the time to watch Patlabor 2 since then? I find that watching a movie every day is one of many ways to keep one's mind "exercised"!

    • @Zheesh7349
      @Zheesh7349 5 лет назад

      @@DrummerDucky Yeah I finally watched it. My expectations weren't low after this video, but it toppled them with ease. It is indeed a fantastic movie!

    • @DrummerDucky
      @DrummerDucky 5 лет назад

      Oshii's argument on "just war, unjust peace" is bit muddled (it's a recurring issue with his writings) but man. the art direction, the music, the character interactions (especially Gotoh) are so mesmerizing, I can't help but watch it again and again every year that goes by, much like the 1995 Ghost in the Shell, or the infamous Ninja Scroll.

  • @Smokedship
    @Smokedship 4 года назад +1

    God bless people like the presenter who appreciate the true depth and convey the actual message that such artists try and convey... Excellent job done!

  • @wt5833
    @wt5833 4 года назад +1

    I watched this because I recently became aware of the series, but have no easy viewing access. This analysis was thoroughly excellent. Few films of any genre are so deep yet nuanced. A casual ‘western’ watch would miss half the film. This and Jin Roh. Thank you for the education.

  • @macuma5533
    @macuma5533 5 лет назад +3

    That conversation they have in the boat never fails to give me goosebumps.

  • @IanPeon
    @IanPeon 2 года назад +4

    A truly beautiful movie, from the characters to the story to the animation, this is a finely crafted work of art. That said, it really demands a lot from it's audience, from knowledge of socio-economic world policies and history, to listening to acres of dialogue, albeit expertly written. When it ends you get the feeling you've seen deeply into what reality we're all living in, having peered directly at the most reflective mirror you've ever seen.

  • @ZombryaTheDark
    @ZombryaTheDark 5 лет назад +2

    I've been obsessed with this movie in soundtrack so much recently. So glad people still know this gem

  • @AkodoAkira1
    @AkodoAkira1 5 лет назад +1

    That was an excellent commentary and analysis of a truly great movie. Well done!

  • @lions1729
    @lions1729 4 года назад +6

    This film is a work of art - flawless art.

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. 5 лет назад +301

    War, war never changes.

    • @JohnUdeogu
      @JohnUdeogu 5 лет назад +3

      you're right, man

    • @jag3596
      @jag3596 5 лет назад +9

      6/10 Damn. You're active this new year. Anyway, old meme.

    • @trytobedied
      @trytobedied 5 лет назад +27

      War has changed.
      It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines.

    • @ononono7016
      @ononono7016 5 лет назад

      Kantai Collection

    • @ononono7016
      @ononono7016 5 лет назад +2

      Alone the WW1, WW2, and, of course, the Cold War truly show how much war itself has changed.
      There are also the Geneva Protocol that "bans" certain weapons. We literally try to make war morally humane.
      Even the use of soldiers varies: Child soldiers and bad planning(lots of unnecessary death) is frowned upon. Different weapon skills. Different ways to die. Globalisation is making the enemy more human...
      Terrorism.
      "War never changes" is a stupid way to see it. We are humans, we adapt.

  • @whatsagoodnickname9025
    @whatsagoodnickname9025 3 года назад

    Thank you for making this video, as it inspired me to watch Patlabor 2!
    It's now among my favourites.

  • @pul0y
    @pul0y 5 лет назад +1

    New Year celebrations just made me forget my recent internal introspection...now this video just reminded me of that. It's back to philosophizing mode for me.
    Great video.

  • @Jaytecx
    @Jaytecx 3 года назад +4

    This film still has the best opening introduction sequence I have seen in any motion picture.

  • @KENSHI_Anime
    @KENSHI_Anime 3 года назад +3

    Thank for your views on this amazing movie. Believe it or not, this movie made me a fan in 1995, which means it was out in Japan 2 years already! This was indeed the "golden era" of Anime in which people in the Anime industry like Mr. Oshii would make a movie like this....

  • @pilouuuu
    @pilouuuu 3 года назад +2

    This feels more relevant than ever in 2021.
    Great video!

  • @ciel0_091
    @ciel0_091 Год назад +2

    My gosh! What a wonderful job you did here. I actually sat down and payed attention to the whole video you just explained about Patlabor. It's unbelievable how people really have only one concept about Japan, but in reality it's more than just the view that gives us a certain attraction to a a place on this world. I highly agree on what you said here. 11:13
    There are many ways us as a society can be more involved in making peace rather than starting it or separating ourselves and not doing anything to prevent it.
    -Cielo V.

  • @caioveras7642
    @caioveras7642 3 года назад +5

    My favorite ost of all

    • @Jaytecx
      @Jaytecx 3 года назад +1

      Don’t you just love the main theme? :-)

    • @ohgodwhy9853
      @ohgodwhy9853 2 года назад +1

      It's this and MGS1 for me.
      So atmospheric

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 2 года назад +5

    Patlabor's sharp political commentary and it's ability to deliver it with surgical precision by using amazing cinematography is what makes it one of the best Real Robot franchises that can actually stand shoulder to shoulder with Gundam, it's both an amazing subversion and an evolution of the genre. It's also interesting how the point of the original Gundam was to remind Japanese society of the horrors of war because Tomino saw a rising jingoism and then almost 30 years later Patlabor is commenting on how the result of said jingoism was Japan becoming complicit in imperialist violence and being once again dependent on it. It's a kind of running dialouge within the Real Robot genre where 86 Eighty-Six and Gundam Hathaway are the latest entries.

    • @antonlongbow5122
      @antonlongbow5122 Год назад

      Glad you mentioned 86 Eighty Six. Wish it would get more recognition.

  • @Anyway99973
    @Anyway99973 5 лет назад

    keep those analysis coming we love them.great work.

  • @nowheredan27
    @nowheredan27 7 месяцев назад

    I have never subbed to a channel so fast in my life. Absolutely fantastic content.

  • @HZAres
    @HZAres 3 года назад +3

    somehow more than 20 years on, this is more relevant than ever

  • @user-pj8zl4ex8o
    @user-pj8zl4ex8o 3 года назад +9

    IT TOOK RUclips 2 YEARS TO RECOMMEND THIS TO ME! Google you have failed yet again at grasping my inclinations.

  • @romerobjuancarlos
    @romerobjuancarlos 3 года назад +2

    This film is beautiful, hauntingly so, and it is one I have watched countless times alongside GITS. When something is layered with meaning, intent and crafted with a very clear vision this is the end result: a piece that is often cited, discussed, and analyzed.
    A classic. Period.

  • @Niarro
    @Niarro 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, thank you! This comes just as I was thinking about rewatching the film, and I never had the context of the japanese political landscape. From what I remember of the movie, it explains so much.

  • @jjstarrprod
    @jjstarrprod 2 года назад +20

    Absolutely great breakdown of this hidden gem of an anime masterpiece.
    It's probably the most political movie anime has ever produced in its entire history. So political that I recall in an old interview with Oshii that he said Miyazaki (also a very political director, since he's been very active in the communist circle in Japan in the 60's and 70's and was one of its main organizers when it came to their public protests), actively berated him for Patlabor 2, saying that his movie is a big bunch of lie. When you have the most legendary anime director of Japan vehemently commenting on your movie, that's when you know you've made it ^^ !

  • @tomimn2233
    @tomimn2233 5 лет назад +20

    I remember myself as a kid walking into this movie thinking it was another one of those japanese giant mechs action movie and little else.
    ...
    took me about close to twenty years to finally understand what the hell this movie was about.

  • @nobom
    @nobom Год назад +1

    Mamoru Ishiis signature "eerie scenes" are mesmerizing. With the contrasting bright lights/dark shadows, the camera views, the strange background music, it's so unsettling and captivating. He makes even a parking lot look like art. I love it.

  • @ezraakhaled4513
    @ezraakhaled4513 5 лет назад

    i swear you make the good ones in this channel

  • @lamecasuelas2
    @lamecasuelas2 3 года назад +6

    I remember watching Patlabor as a kid and everytime an episode ended i was a little confunsed, i had the feeling that There was something deeper that i didn't fully understand.

  • @enemia93
    @enemia93 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for this very instructive and well documented analysis of a great film (my favorite film btw). Back when I watched it, I didn't have all the detail of the Japanese context in mind. So while this film acts first and foremost as a witness of its time and place, I really felt that it managed to have a(n expected?) broader scope. From today's standpoint, as you said, it still tells a lot about the fragility of our current peace against new kinds of threats, coming from the inside of our countries, here in the West. I mean I live in France and I watched it ~4 years ago, when terrorist attacks were really hot in the news
    Oshii's style of framing, pacing and visual storytelling works really well to tell this story of this illusory peace. Also I really like how it was already experimented in the Early Days OVAs and then pushed way further in this film

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад

      enemia: what khonda was saying is the animation is what made film amazing...

    • @enemia93
      @enemia93 5 лет назад

      @@ruhurtin4squrtin34 yeah actually Khonda and I already know each other, and we are both French speakers

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад

      enemia: was i somewhat right? i only took francais pour 3 ans.

    • @ruhurtin4squrtin34
      @ruhurtin4squrtin34 5 лет назад

      enemia: personally oshii's message is somewhat trite and simplistic. personally i found pat2 animation way better than gits 95...although i prefer gits manga and shirow's work.

  • @thesophistcatedotaku8091
    @thesophistcatedotaku8091 3 года назад +1

    This is one of my favorite films. I love the conversation between Goto and Irakawa. One of my favorite speeches.

  • @diegozimmerman8261
    @diegozimmerman8261 Год назад +1

    As fan of the Patlabor franchise I find your take on Patlabor 2 extraordinarily good. Execution of the video and the history behind P2 is professional. I found myself wanting a longer version as to learn more of what I had no CLUE of the significance of what the author was trying to tell me. Know that I have some Idea …….thank you!!!

  • @SoftyWalterGames
    @SoftyWalterGames 4 года назад +4

    The most underrated anime ever

  • @Pres.Shinra
    @Pres.Shinra 3 года назад +24

    When animes weren't all about students in highschool and fan service

    • @alfi-il7be
      @alfi-il7be 3 года назад +7

      mostly because japan have great source of story . they publish it in novel or manga. there are many other manga and novel that don't have anime .because the story is not about spirited boy have super power. patlabor is one of the franchise that lucky enough get anime

  • @shkeni
    @shkeni 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent video. It always delights me that Patlabor can be both something as heady as this, a wacky comedy or some of the best adult slice of life you can find. There's really little like it.

  • @ryanvandalinda12345
    @ryanvandalinda12345 5 лет назад +2

    What a fantastic video essay. Well done! I'll admit, upon initially watching "Patlabor 2," I did not pick-up on most of the social political commentaries that you've very articulately highlighted with this video essay. I'm going to have to re-watch the film now.

  • @rotritter
    @rotritter Год назад +3

    this film aged like wine

  • @Siptom369
    @Siptom369 3 года назад +6

    These older anime just look so gorgeous even by todays standards

  • @incyphe
    @incyphe 2 года назад +1

    great review. a timeless classic. There will never be another one like it. soundtrack also played a huge part in making this movie a whole.

  • @xpavpushka
    @xpavpushka 3 года назад +1

    Amazing artwork, amazing music, mature story. One of the best full-length anime.

  • @a.thompson5518
    @a.thompson5518 5 лет назад +4

    This was a interesting analysis on the film. I regarded as my all time favorite film because how genius the plot was, as it felt like Oshii took notes from Tom Clancy. Nice video.

  • @TrueSkullLeader
    @TrueSkullLeader 5 лет назад +3

    ... Holy shit. I´m never watching anime with the same eyes again. Really amazing video.

  • @50043211
    @50043211 4 года назад

    One of my favorite movies of all times because of the story and the questions it puts up.

  • @arkanoid77
    @arkanoid77 4 года назад +1

    I've seen Patlabor 2 at launch and it is between my most repeatedly seen movies. I never thought I fully understood it, but nevertheless it was OK that way. Because the best cyberpunk is full of inextricable political mistery. That way the fiction can really throw looming dreads at you so that atmosphere can expand. Your detailed historical commentary is mind-bending for me at this time. Thank you. Terrific and unexpected video.

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 5 лет назад +23

    _"Wars are poor chisels for carving out peaceful tomorrow"_

  • @TheRenegadeMonk
    @TheRenegadeMonk 3 года назад +4

    I'd forgotten how beautiful hand drawn Anime movies were.

  • @spencerchao9275
    @spencerchao9275 3 года назад

    This is the best analysis of P2 ever!!

  • @julien2983
    @julien2983 3 года назад

    Awesome video, Mamoru Oshii is my favorite anime director and this film is a big part of the reason why