I’m glad you noticed Mr A kept going to massive watts then dropping. When i saw it in your first video i was so confused as to how and why someone would ride like that. It seems like they tried to pass you but kept stopping. Great breakdown!
This was a great video. Really cool to see a deep dive on this. I think you got the strategy just right. I did this today, and I wish I'd seen this video before. It would have helped. The lesson is watch more Gerben.
Great advice Gerben, did my run this morning and smashed it. Surprised I did almost all the things you advised 😄 My graph was a sea of red and orange. Blow my old FTP away. It's going to make workouts a touch harder now 😂 Worried now I'll get bumped to Cat B if I keep these efforts up 😧
Great vid, will use your tips for my next attempt. Did my first attempt literally 2hrs ago, thought I way dying from just after the flat section to the top…. Hurt locker 😅
Pushing at the end is probably best to complete the climb as quickly as possible, but if using it as a test I'd argue keeping a steady wattage throughout is more relevant. I managed 290W for about 14:30 (similar weight to you) coming off a 2 weeks sick break ; I'll aim for 300 next time.
Just tried this route yesterday and it was comfortable on the first climb (able to hold 3.3 w/kg) then soon as I hit the flat section lactate kicked in and made my legs suffer thereby dropping my ftp down to 252
@@RideWithGerben that’s the thing though I was holding it lower Z5 high Z4…once hit the flat (kickr climb was on full) resistance was instantly reduced and I used it to recover slightly. So would you recommend turning off climbing resistance?
I also tried to save a bit for the end but then I thought - does a 10% drop in power have a bigger impact on a 13% grade than an 8% grade? Would I have been better putting out more power on the flatter bits?
Yeah. Zwift magic. It takes a formula to your power to get a guesstimation of your FTP. I've read it is based on performances of thousands of Zwifters.
Like Gerben said, it's an estimation of your FTP based on thousands of data points. The calculation falls on a power curve, so for example, if your climb takes 20 minutes your FTP figure will be around 95% of you avg power, if the climb only takes 12 minutes, it might be around 85% of the avg power for the climb (not exact figure, just for example). Gerben took 13 minutes and his estimated FTP was around 87% of his avg power.
@@jakobjas4212interesting. My FTP score of 202 was only 10 less than my average for the climb, so like you say about 95%. Yeah, I'm not very fast. But getting faster, slowly 😂
Top tips from a top climber, who is a top rider and most importantly, a top all round bloke! Kudos to you, Gerben! 💪 🚲 👊
Thx Simon! Hope it helps. :D
I’m glad you noticed Mr A kept going to massive watts then dropping. When i saw it in your first video i was so confused as to how and why someone would ride like that. It seems like they tried to pass you but kept stopping. Great breakdown!
Yes! That guy was microbursting and cheating at the same time. Crazy.
This is great timing and helpful advice. They just scheduled the Grade for next week’s Hill Climb iTT series!
They did? Nice! Thank you for watching!
This was a great video. Really cool to see a deep dive on this. I think you got the strategy just right.
I did this today, and I wish I'd seen this video before. It would have helped. The lesson is watch more Gerben.
Sometimes I accidentally get it right! LOL! Thx Lee!
Great advice Gerben, did my run this morning and smashed it.
Surprised I did almost all the things you advised 😄 My graph was a sea of red and orange. Blow my old FTP away.
It's going to make workouts a touch harder now 😂
Worried now I'll get bumped to Cat B if I keep these efforts up 😧
Congratulations! Ride this well and you are A cat in no time 🤣
Great vid, will use your tips for my next attempt. Did my first attempt literally 2hrs ago, thought I way dying from just after the flat section to the top…. Hurt locker 😅
Yes! The real pain is the second half of the climb!
@@RideWithGerben I should have watched your vid first 😜
I actually enjoy this climb, and have done it twice in the last couple weeks. It's not so bad, only 300m.
I don’t enjoy it that much, mostly due to the flat bit that kills the rhythm. But I will be back on this one soon 😄
Pushing at the end is probably best to complete the climb as quickly as possible, but if using it as a test I'd argue keeping a steady wattage throughout is more relevant.
I managed 290W for about 14:30 (similar weight to you) coming off a 2 weeks sick break ; I'll aim for 300 next time.
Yes. Steady power is the best. The flat bit at 1.3k makes it difficult though. So I negative splitted it.
Enjoy the coffee and keep up the good work :)
Many thanks man!!! ☕️☕️☕️☕️
Thanks for sharing
Anytime Jeffrey. Thx for watching!
Just tried this route yesterday and it was comfortable on the first climb (able to hold 3.3 w/kg) then soon as I hit the flat section lactate kicked in and made my legs suffer thereby dropping my ftp down to 252
Yes. Pace it somewhat slower in the first half. Second half is wayyy steeper. And the surface is snow/ice, so you go slower to enhance the suffering 😅
@@RideWithGerben that’s the thing though I was holding it lower Z5 high Z4…once hit the flat (kickr climb was on full) resistance was instantly reduced and I used it to recover slightly.
So would you recommend turning off climbing resistance?
@@RideWithGerben the way I saw was 2 x 10-12 min blocks
@@BAKPDLPaul No. Gear down a little on the flat bit, try to keep power the same as on the climb.
@@RideWithGerben I was down to gear 4 couldn’t go any lower (leave some gears for recovery) 😂
Thank you 👍
You are welcome 🙏
I also tried to save a bit for the end but then I thought - does a 10% drop in power have a bigger impact on a 13% grade than an 8% grade? Would I have been better putting out more power on the flatter bits?
On a light bike like this one I am in camp more power on the steep bits to profit more from the low weight.
How do you think this compares with Alpes du zwift for everesting purposes?
This has the potential to be better. It’s steeper.
Did you adjust your trainer difficulty or did you have it at 100%?
100% hence the grinding 🤣
I didn't get it what is the difference between your average power of 325W and your grade 286W? Anyway, thanks for explanation 🙂
Yeah. Zwift magic. It takes a formula to your power to get a guesstimation of your FTP. I've read it is based on performances of thousands of Zwifters.
Like Gerben said, it's an estimation of your FTP based on thousands of data points. The calculation falls on a power curve, so for example, if your climb takes 20 minutes your FTP figure will be around 95% of you avg power, if the climb only takes 12 minutes, it might be around 85% of the avg power for the climb (not exact figure, just for example). Gerben took 13 minutes and his estimated FTP was around 87% of his avg power.
@@jakobjas4212interesting. My FTP score of 202 was only 10 less than my average for the climb, so like you say about 95%. Yeah, I'm not very fast. But getting faster, slowly 😂
What is your weight?
72/73 kilograms
@@RideWithGerben Thank nice ride
did you stand at any point?
Yes I did. Most of it in the second half.