chopin, but it's horowitz:
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- pianist: Vladimir Horowitz
piece: Chopin: Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4
original video: • Horowitz plays CHOPIN ...
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pianist: Vladimir Horowitz
piece: Chopin: Mazurka in A minor, Op. 17 No. 4
original video: ruclips.net/video/JfNSE_cwVcA/видео.html
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if Horowitz were to shh me, I stay shhed.
Ahahahhahaha
I would consider forgetting human language.
I usually love more rhythmic “clean” playing like say sokolov, Schiff, Lewis etc. but Horowitz is one artist that I think really makes a more sentimental style with lots of rubato sounds super convincing and awesome 👏
Sokolov is by no means "rhythmic clean" playing
@@theunknown617 I’d disagree! Of course he uses rubato, I’m not saying that any of the pianists that I mentioned aren’t capable of being flexible with tempo or that they play mechanically; however, I think it’s plain if you hear sokolov’s recording of this piece that it is less variable in tempo than this recording by Horowitz - that is why I would say Sokolov’s playing is more ‘rhythmic’.
Then just as a bonus I think his playing is super clean - see, for example his interpretations of Rameau or compare his recordings of Rach 3 to Horowitz’s. That being said, I don’t think that ‘cleanliness’ is as relevant to this piece because it’s not so technically demanding from a virtuosic perspective, but nevertheless ‘clean’ is a word I would associate with Sokolov’s playing from a general standpoint.
@@aaaabb1666 there are two types of mazurkas/waltzes in Chopin music. Those that are meant to feel like dancing and the ones for the soul. Rhythmically, both most feel danceable. Otherwise, you aren’t playing them correctly. Constructing an adequate musical idea in those isn’t easy, but if the performer achieves it, then it’s a simple matter of taste which performer you like the most.
@@aaaabb1666 sokolov Rach 3 blows compared to Horowitz. There’s nobody worth listening to besides him, giseking is interesting but there is tons of amazing details to be discovered on all of Horowitz Rach 3s. Too much music too little time to be listening to sokolov for that piece. Horowitz has a 1943 version that’s the best but bad quality audio
@@theunknown617 true 😅
I GOT TO PLAY HIS PIANO! It was on display at my local music store on a little tour and I had the opportunity to play it!
omg how was it?
@jamesbigfan300 super light action. almost a bit too light in my opinion, but it was still amazing to get the opportunity to play it.
There is so much tenderness in his way of playing it
He is so great at balancing voices, I love his recording of Scriabin's 5th and etudes, he controls and brings out inner lines like no one else. For all his power, I really appreciate is slow pieces, especially in Scriabin. I can play alot of the slow preludes and was shocked that some Horowitz was playing slower than me.
You can hear the breathing of the music, blowing the candle flame into twisted shapes. It's so delicate, painfully deEEEEEElicate.....it almost hurts.
Damn didn't know Horowitz was gangsta...man just shushed us before his concert...
Martha Argerich said, "in the Mazurkas, Horowitz has no equal." This short excerpt is a good demonstration of why she's right.
one of my favorite recordings, and itll be a long time until we get another one like it
That’s the thing… we won’t.
even if he isnt, the music he produced is eternal
Some of the most magical piano music I’ve heard
Listen to chasse neige (v. Lisitsa recording only!), chopin prelude 28 2, chopin prelude 28 15 (katsaris recording only!), ravel le gibet (pogorelich recording only!), schubert erlkonig (trifonov recording only!)
This 60 second clip changed my entire opinion of this piece. If that's not a testament to Horowitz's musical insight, idk what else is.
I used to think this piece should be played slow, steady, and somberly. Without words, Horowitz explained that it is a mazurka after all. I can hear the violinists, and the bass.. and the Polish dancers. This is a Mazurka.
0:32 🤩
magic...
Horowitz is always the GOAT
ehh
he has a jazz pianist’s touch in this. reminds me of chick corea
It's actually the opposite, this is the classical touch. Jazz pianists often talk about that one of the things that classical has over jazz is that the pianists touch is much more dynamic, even in difficult passages. This is because classical is more technique focused while jazz is more focused on improvisation, but some pianists have come close to combining the two like Bill Evans for example.
@@specialperson335 he has a classically trained jazz pianist's touch
This is insane
He keeps the mazurka in it.
Wonderful!
A Chopin/Horowitz piece
Is it just me or is the note half notes higher?
Easiest example to notice would be right hand at 0:13. It sounds like E-F-E-D instead of D-E-D-D.
yes
D-E-D-C
The entire video is a semitone up.
Wrists up boy! 🤣
Così si suonano le mazurche di Chopin
Noice
hes playing it like a cabaret joke song
Well it is a dance
@@philip6579 Its a little deeper then a cabaret joke song dont you think
@@ethansaltmere It doesn’t really sound like one, most joke songs aren’t in minor and don’t modulate down. He’s just playing it like a person who’s alive and has energy!
@@philip6579 I think its deeper then this
@@ethansaltmere Fair enough! The way you hear a piece the first time is often the way you always want to hear it.
Sounds like Jazz or a related genre. Is this really a chopin piece??
it is
Yes of course it is.
You might feel it like that because that’s how Chopin must sound, improvised and free. It helps a lot that the piece is a mazurka which is a Polish dance. Horowitz was an expert on doing this
this is considered one of his more depressing compositions, what part of this is jazz?
@@tkrpiano Jazz doesn't always convey happiness either. They meant the harmony and scales.
It's almost a semi-tone high, maybe change the speed of the video to get it right
in the original documentary, this is the tempo he plays it at (with correct tuning, of course!) and changing the speed to get the tuning right would (imho) ruin the video
I really love how he plays this piece, but what I do not like (and I could say the same about lots of his other performances) is that he does not do the dynamics as notated, sometimes he just flat out inverts them.
I almost feel like the particular moments his rubato highlights would actually make the original dynamics seem a bit jarring. In some ways, his own dynamics fit what he's trying to do better. I know there's the debate about how far interpretations should go, but in my mind, if it's effective and serves to support the music you're trying to make, it's valid. Even if it means recomposing what was originally written.
What is the difference between a photo and its negative? Do they not both convey exactly the same information?
Chopin stated there are many ways to play his pieces.
@@abb5643 Yes, I guess it's about the line for everyone. I wrote this comment 2 months ago, and I have heard many performances of pieces I haven't heard before. Let's just say I don't 100% agree with what I said anymore (on this performance only).
@@m0ment219 screw notation, are you in 'music school'?
As always, a lot of people who don’t understand a damn performance of classical music in real, having heard that Horowitz is playing, will enthusiastically admire such a performance.
I would like to see their true opinion if they were welcomed to listen to such a performance and were not told who is playing or, for example, they were told that a conservatory student plays ;)
Dimwit: Hmm today I will listen to this recording because I like it *clueless*
Midwit: OH YOU ABSOLUTE FOOL! YOU ARE STUPID FOR LIKING THIS RECORDING!1!!!
Topwit: Hmm today I will listen to this recording because I like it
Lame comment.
he plays very good, but I think B4 key is out of tune
you're out of tune
not a normal piano imo
Its not far from the truth. Horowitz had special setting for the keys, way more sensitive than us comon mortals lol
@@Spartakus68 Horowtiz's Steinway Model D was not a MAGIC, DIFFERENT Steinway Model D. It was just very well-regulated for good dynamic range and fast repetition, and with the hammers voiced to a certain "nasalness" that Franz Mohr said Horowitz liked. There was some discussion about this in a piano technical group some months ago, and a very experienced piano technician commented that he had had opportunity to play Horowitz's Steinway D not long after the pianist's death. What I've written here is the essence of what he reported. There is in fact no way to make a Steinway D magically different and better - just good regulation to get the best out of it. Which of course Steinway would always be eager to do, to satisfy one of their most powerful customer/advocates. Horowtiz was only ever seen playing non-Steinway pianos, twice, and briefly. The clips are on RUclips. From his Moscow trip you can see him playing Tchaikovsky's piano, and Scriabin's piano, a Becker and a Bechstein respectively. He still sounds like Horowitz!
I hear Ooga booga pianoing