Once Rhanaerya secured the north you know she was going to win. No queen or king has ever lost a war with the north as their Allie’s. Though Rhanaerya grief stricken and angry is what cost her life in the end. She stopped being strategic and just starting relying on brute force
Cregan stark has been in one scene in the show so far. And he is already a bad ass. All he needed to do was go to the edge of the wall and tell Jace even dragons are scared to go past.
Cregan Stark was carrying the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' on his back unlike Ned Starks who carried it on his waist. Jon snow also carried his Valyrian steel sword 'longclaw' on his back in the books.
Cregan Stark and Jon snow both were too short for their Valyrian steel swords 'Ice' and 'Longclaw' respectively. So they tied it to their back unlike Ned Stark who tied the the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' to his waist because he was a man of big stature. People don't realise that both Ice and Longclaw are very big swords compared to others. Although Ice is bigger.
@@5inisterftw I think the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' is bigger than the sword 'Dawn. Also Dawn is not a Valyrian steel sword. In "A Song of Ice and Fire," Dawn is a unique and ancient sword belonging to House Dayne. It is forged from a meteorite and has a pale, milkglass-like appearance, unlike the dark, rippled appearance typical of Valyrian steel. While it possesses legendary qualities and is exceptionally sharp and strong, it is distinct from Valyrian steel swords in both its material and appearance. The wielder of Dawn is given the title "Sword of the Morning," signifying its special status within House Dayne.
@@shariqmalik99 did he carry ice around on his waist? i feel like that would be a waste of effort as you would have a big ass sword swinging around you whenever you turned also would have to remove it to sit down and whatnot, not to mention fighting in close quarters trying to draw that thing from your waist, this is just personal thought tho as i dont remember it specifically saying how he carries it in the books i could be wrong tho its been about 7 years since i last read.
Jace is the one introducing the Idea to give Vermithor and unclaimed dragon to Dragon seed. Who betrayed Rhaenyra and made the end of the Dragon.... And Black too. Jace is weak and Dumb and his a bastard.
I always feels like Stark and Targaryen's are intertwined from the very beginning, long before Aegon i conquered Westeros. 8000 Years before, BRANDON "THE BUILDER" STARK build 700 ft tall of ice wall w/ help of giants and forest of the children. To protect humanity from white walkers. Then 12 yrs before the doome of Valyria Aenar Targaryen father of Daeny Targaryen THE DREAMER moved his family to Westeros in Dragonstone. Fastforward... Aegon i Targaryen conquered and unify six kindoms (later 7) as he foreseen the longnight. So when Stark and Targaryen meet they somehow connect each other as they understood their ancestors main common cause, common ground and main enemy. Jon's Snow Stark Targaryen's parentage was no coinidence. It was meant to be from the very beginning. He's THE PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED. Just sucks that they brought him back to life only to exile him. He should've been sitting on the iron throne w/ Daeny as his wife and continue the TARGARYEN DYNASTY...
targaeryen dickrider be like: targaeryens had their time and westeros was done with their bullshit with aerys. daenerys is delusional to think her brother rhaegar was a good SANE man much less her father
Yes, “Jon Snow” is Aegon Targaryen that King Viserys talked about to his daughter. I hope Martin will write another ending than D&D presented on screen because I feel like Daenerys becoming a selfish brat is not consistent with the character he is building in the books. She was capable of compromises in the books. She married a man she didn’t love to rule in the Eastern cities. Why wouldn’t she be able to marry Jon Snow/ Aegon then - a man whom she is in love with if that could also make her Queen of the 7 kingdom, and rule by his side? Why throwing a massive tantrum and burning a whole city, killing millions of people, going mad like her father and deciding the become a conquering dictator? It doesn’t make sense… Dany is empathetic, altruistic, she loves her people. She has always put duty first. She even locked her dragons away to protect people! And now, she’s Hitler. That’s nonsense.
No dead dany because GRRM is a savage but she gives birth to Jon’s son and Jon takes out night king or Jamie Lannister stalemates but still kills night king with valeryin steel arm sword
i like cregan stark in the show but i wish he looked a bit older. in the books they specifically say that despite cregan being 23 he looked and acted older
Yes it would've been a great episode. Something they would've done in the earlier game of thrones seasons where they didn't rush what would be key character interactions or bonds built between those characters. HotD had so much potential and it's fallen short imo. It gives me GoT season 7/8 vibes (Definitely better than GoT S8) with how rushed it seems to me in some episodes. Yes I know they're flying around everywhere on dragon back lol but some characters are one place and then another in the space of half an episode like in season 7/8 GoT. I miss the character developments etc when two characters would just be travelling on horse back and it could last a few episodes or the whole season. The Hound and Arya for example, Jamie and Brienne all the other adventures characters were on. Yeah I know they don't wanna make as many seasons as GoT and the focus is story of the war and who's going to win/lose but I think having episodes like this would make the show closer to the level of earlier GoT. HotD it seems it's just small council meetings about what they should or shouldn't do, flying around asking for loyalty and oaths, being told yes or no, fairly sudden fight scenes that didn't have much prep or planning actually shown to us on screen from either side. Daemon being Daemon And that's the cycle haha. I love Daemon so that's all good haha. If only they could listen to all our opinions and let us help hahaha but hey remember opinions are like assholes everyone's got one 😂
@@jamesdumelow7942 it's honestly quite a fair take 😆 the show hotd focuses more story-driven imo, which i also wished it was more character-driven (welp, the door isnt closed yet, i do hope they'll explore these individual figures & interactions in later episodes or seasons)
@@michaelcorleone1298 bro I was talking to this original commenter not you. People in this comment section are trying to force this idea anytime in "history" when two dudes were friends, it must have meant they were actually gay and historians just "cover it up" or whatever nonsense progressives believe now
Exactly, so much thing to explore but they decided to make a stupid link with GoT and ruined the whole lore with "aegon's prophecy" that doesnt make sense
I like to think the hour of the wolf comes more from stark being mad that not only his queen was dead but his newly made friend in Jace was dead as well.
Can someone please.......please tell me a order to read all the books. All around the Game of thrones universe.(Including house of Targaryen...and knight of seven kingdoms etc)
The starks would have gotten a dragon. And perhaps like that we'd see other houses getting dragons. Could this have been a worse outcome down the line though? We saw what happened when the hightowers got dragons 😬
Really bummed they didn't make jace and cregans bastard sister a thing..... If the show did 10 episodes it would have added a lot more depth to jaces character. That connection honestly is vital to how the show ends
That's tragedy is like LOSING YOUR bestie when you sworn to each other 😭 one day both wanna become families between their two children. Jace would've made best allies between Starks.
😂Bro this 200 years before the game of thrones Spoiler * * * * * * * * * * * Jacaeryes died in battle and pack of ice and fire is not complete. But last cregen stark will march south in support for blacks but at the time rhaenyra and all other leaders of black will die including daemon. So cregen stark fight in the name of their son aegon 3. Some theory says in the books Arya and jon will complete the pack of ice and fire not sure.
The question is not entirely on topic, but if Jace would become a ruler after Rhanaerya it would mean establishement of Velaryon dynasty and the end of Targaryen?
The show keeps cutting all these great scenes for what? People sitting around saying they dont know what to do or hallucinating in a castle? It is disappointing how much they are wasting the second season of HOTD on irrelevant things vs stuff like this.
Nah… woke is BS. It’s just bigoted people trying to justify hating on minority’s. The Only bad woke stuff is big corpo shows trying to go that way and appease more people. HBO is yet to reach that yet and Besides game of thrones has always been hit or miss. Personally HotD is a huge hit. Season 1 was amazing and so far season 2 is great and a good sign of GoT since DnD messed it up…
Once Rhanaerya secured the north you know she was going to win. No queen or king has ever lost a war with the north as their Allie’s. Though Rhanaerya grief stricken and angry is what cost her life in the end. She stopped being strategic and just starting relying on brute force
She wasn’t strategic from the very start
In the Book she didn't win tho
Except war of 5 kings
@@shashankdwivedi5694they were winning until the red weeding(Exchse me English is not my first languages)
She doesn’t win though
The Starks (and the entire North in general) are simply built different. If you can get them on your side, you can't lose.
Straight facts.
@@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye is because of their honors are tight, although they lose it somehow in GOT they manage to take it back. I miss Leanna Mormont
The Lannister’s send their regards
@@camakaze1330liking the lannisters during the war of the 5 kings is such odd behavior
@@ultraspeedy4911 where did I say I liked them
Cregan stark has been in one scene in the show so far.
And he is already a bad ass. All he needed to do was go to the edge of the wall and tell Jace even dragons are scared to go past.
Can’t wait for the ‘Hour of the Wolf’ scene!
Cregan Stark was bad ass in the books as well, every Lord shut his mouth when Cregan enter the hall.
Cregan Stark was carrying the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' on his back unlike Ned Starks who carried it on his waist. Jon snow also carried his Valyrian steel sword 'longclaw' on his back in the books.
Cregan Stark and Jon snow both were too short for their Valyrian steel swords 'Ice' and 'Longclaw' respectively. So they tied it to their back unlike Ned Stark who tied the the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' to his waist because he was a man of big stature. People don't realise that both Ice and Longclaw are very big swords compared to others. Although Ice is bigger.
He also used it to fight like a normal sword. Old man of the North is no joke.
@@shariqmalik99let’s not forget about Ser Author Daynes legendary sword “Dawn” thing was freakin huge
@@5inisterftw I think the Valyrian steel sword 'Ice' is bigger than the sword 'Dawn. Also Dawn is not a Valyrian steel sword. In "A Song of Ice and Fire," Dawn is a unique and ancient sword belonging to House Dayne. It is forged from a meteorite and has a pale, milkglass-like appearance, unlike the dark, rippled appearance typical of Valyrian steel. While it possesses legendary qualities and is exceptionally sharp and strong, it is distinct from Valyrian steel swords in both its material and appearance. The wielder of Dawn is given the title "Sword of the Morning," signifying its special status within House Dayne.
@@shariqmalik99 did he carry ice around on his waist? i feel like that would be a waste of effort as you would have a big ass sword swinging around you whenever you turned also would have to remove it to sit down and whatnot, not to mention fighting in close quarters trying to draw that thing from your waist, this is just personal thought tho as i dont remember it specifically saying how he carries it in the books i could be wrong tho its been about 7 years since i last read.
Jace saved the Blacks war effort. With strength, honor, possibly an incling of Aegons's dream. And a true "break bones" mentality. ❤
Or with one hell of a blowjob.
*looks at the brokeback wall vibes going on*
🤔
Yeah, definitely the BJ...
Jace is the one introducing the Idea to give Vermithor and unclaimed dragon to Dragon seed. Who betrayed Rhaenyra and made the end of the Dragon.... And Black too. Jace is weak and Dumb and his a bastard.
Pact of Ice and Fire😎
In the long run ice and fire still find it's way back in game of thrones (In the song of ice and fire story)
I always feels like Stark and Targaryen's are intertwined from the very beginning, long before Aegon i conquered Westeros. 8000 Years before, BRANDON "THE BUILDER" STARK build 700 ft tall of ice wall w/ help of giants and forest of the children. To protect humanity from white walkers. Then 12 yrs before the doome of Valyria Aenar Targaryen father of Daeny Targaryen THE DREAMER moved his family to Westeros in Dragonstone. Fastforward... Aegon i Targaryen conquered and unify six kindoms (later 7) as he foreseen the longnight. So when Stark and Targaryen meet they somehow connect each other as they understood their ancestors main common cause, common ground and main enemy. Jon's Snow Stark Targaryen's parentage was no coinidence. It was meant to be from the very beginning. He's THE PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED. Just sucks that they brought him back to life only to exile him. He should've been sitting on the iron throne w/ Daeny as his wife and continue the TARGARYEN DYNASTY...
targaeryen dickrider be like:
targaeryens had their time and westeros was done with their bullshit with aerys. daenerys is delusional to think her brother rhaegar was a good SANE man much less her father
Daenerys targaryen was too prod too give her throne to Jon snow. She became very selfish unlike jon snow who bent the knee for their people
Yes, “Jon Snow” is Aegon Targaryen that King Viserys talked about to his daughter.
I hope Martin will write another ending than D&D presented on screen because I feel like Daenerys becoming a selfish brat is not consistent with the character he is building in the books. She was capable of compromises in the books. She married a man she didn’t love to rule in the Eastern cities. Why wouldn’t she be able to marry Jon Snow/ Aegon then - a man whom she is in love with if that could also make her Queen of the 7 kingdom, and rule by his side?
Why throwing a massive tantrum and burning a whole city, killing millions of people, going mad like her father and deciding the become a conquering dictator? It doesn’t make sense… Dany is empathetic, altruistic, she loves her people. She has always put duty first. She even locked her dragons away to protect people! And now, she’s Hitler. That’s nonsense.
Dany was sterile after the birth of her dragons
No dead dany because GRRM is a savage but she gives birth to Jon’s son and Jon takes out night king or Jamie Lannister stalemates but still kills night king with valeryin steel arm sword
"Juhkaris" "Kr33gan"
AI slop
Better then the 5 min conversation in a tv series 😂
Dog I loved their scene together. Just felt right. And when cregan says "death" oof 😭
Can he just talk about who good of a negotiator Jace was he over things that didn’t yet have
J A K A Y E R U S!
I stopped the video at Ja-Karys. ✋️ 😂
i like cregan stark in the show but i wish he looked a bit older. in the books they specifically say that despite cregan being 23 he looked and acted older
Rhaenyra said they are around the same age but Cregan is a Lord and grew up more quickly
@randycrawford1132 i guess depends on how they want to go with thr timeline because they took away stuff from the books
Jaecaerys should be the same age as daeron the fourth son of viserys and alicent.
@@randycrawford1132 north air
Maturity is what it is not the looks.😊
Imo they should have dedicated a whole episode to this story arc. The writers fumbled the opportunity of what could have been a fantastic episode.
Yes it would've been a great episode. Something they would've done in the earlier game of thrones seasons where they didn't rush what would be key character interactions or bonds built between those characters. HotD had so much potential and it's fallen short imo. It gives me GoT season 7/8 vibes (Definitely better than GoT S8) with how rushed it seems to me in some episodes. Yes I know they're flying around everywhere on dragon back lol but some characters are one place and then another in the space of half an episode like in season 7/8 GoT. I miss the character developments etc when two characters would just be travelling on horse back and it could last a few episodes or the whole season. The Hound and Arya for example, Jamie and Brienne all the other adventures characters were on. Yeah I know they don't wanna make as many seasons as GoT and the focus is story of the war and who's going to win/lose but I think having episodes like this would make the show closer to the level of earlier GoT. HotD it seems it's just small council meetings about what they should or shouldn't do, flying around asking for loyalty and oaths, being told yes or no, fairly sudden fight scenes that didn't have much prep or planning actually shown to us on screen from either side. Daemon being Daemon And that's the cycle haha. I love Daemon so that's all good haha.
If only they could listen to all our opinions and let us help hahaha but hey remember opinions are like assholes everyone's got one 😂
Sorry that was an essay yapping more than I need to haha
@@jamesdumelow7942 it's honestly quite a fair take 😆
the show hotd focuses more story-driven imo, which i also wished it was more character-driven (welp, the door isnt closed yet, i do hope they'll explore these individual figures & interactions in later episodes or seasons)
Historians will say they were roommates
Oh my god they were roommates
Y'all are so obsessed with forcing homosexuality on everything
@@TheSpaniard dude it was a vine back in the day lol look it up 😂 I ain’t the one big dawg
@@michaelcorleone1298 bro I was talking to this original commenter not you. People in this comment section are trying to force this idea anytime in "history" when two dudes were friends, it must have meant they were actually gay and historians just "cover it up" or whatever nonsense progressives believe now
@@TheSpaniard dude, usually I'd agree with you but on this one, even my mind went there.
Serious "Brokeback wall" vibes going on there.
Jace and Cregan bromance of ice and fire
More Cregan Stark! More Cregan Stark!!
Wish we could have seen more of the north in HOTD S2 E1
I wish we saw more of their interaction and then coexistence
The starts are the best ❤
Cregan is a real one
Can't wait to see the winter wolves
That's kinda 💅💅💅
They butchered this on the show
Among many other things.
The casting you mean?
They haven’t shown everything yet
@@banan_9672 the whole situation
Exactly, so much thing to explore but they decided to make a stupid link with GoT and ruined the whole lore with "aegon's prophecy" that doesnt make sense
I like to think the hour of the wolf comes more from stark being mad that not only his queen was dead but his newly made friend in Jace was dead as well.
I love how people say the blacks didn’t win but if it was up to ole boy Cregan none of the greens bloodlines would have continued😭
Was I the only who thought the actor had a really, really cool voice?
Could you make a separate video for HOD title credits?
Gotcha
Stay tuned and thanks for the suggestion!!
If only Lucerys had the presence of mind to make an offer of some sort to the Baratheons
Hell yeah was watching game of thrones before my family got hooked onto it lol 😂 😂😂😂😂😂now I’m about the house of dragon
Then they proceed to walk really slow until the war is over
Just wait until HBO turns this into a gay relationship between the two 💀💀
shame they didn't show any of this in the show. i want more depth for the other houses, all we see are little glimpses, make it more grand!
Can someone please.......please tell me a order to read all the books. All around the Game of thrones universe.(Including house of Targaryen...and knight of seven kingdoms etc)
One of Aegon 3 daughters could have married the stark to honour the pact of ice and fire
Cassie do u mind sharing the brand and name of that black nylon bag with pearl detailing strap? Thank u
The starks would have gotten a dragon. And perhaps like that we'd see other houses getting dragons. Could this have been a worse outcome down the line though? We saw what happened when the hightowers got dragons 😬
If Cregan came early, Rhaenyra would've won the war. 😢
Really bummed they didn't make jace and cregans bastard sister a thing..... If the show did 10 episodes it would have added a lot more depth to jaces character. That connection honestly is vital to how the show ends
It was the hour of the wolf that finally gave the crown to the blacks.
Petition to get (if fit and gets to that age) Brendan Fraser for Cregan.
That's tragedy is like LOSING YOUR bestie when you sworn to each other 😭 one day both wanna become families between their two children.
Jace would've made best allies between Starks.
He would of been a good king shame really what happened to him
If that’s true then the starks carry Targaryen blood in them since Rickon was the father of Ned
😂Bro this 200 years before the game of thrones
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Jacaeryes died in battle and pack of ice and fire is not complete. But last cregen stark will march south in support for blacks but at the time rhaenyra and all other leaders of black will die including daemon. So cregen stark fight in the name of their son aegon 3. Some theory says in the books Arya and jon will complete the pack of ice and fire not sure.
HBO completely dropped the ball.
This could have a been entire episode.
"A people which has a woman as a leader will never prosper
Rhaeneras oldest son is actually Cristin Cole’s son. Not Harwin strong
Who is Creegan? It's Cregan.
The question is not entirely on topic, but if Jace would become a ruler after Rhanaerya it would mean establishement of Velaryon dynasty and the end of Targaryen?
Yes bro we know we watched the 1st episode
His name is Strong lol.
The show keeps cutting all these great scenes for what? People sitting around saying they dont know what to do or hallucinating in a castle? It is disappointing how much they are wasting the second season of HOTD on irrelevant things vs stuff like this.
I think cregan stark looks like George Washington
WoW
Its Jacaerys... Not Jakaerys! 😂
Cregan stark gives absolutely no fucks in the books.
Jace also enjoyed a tumble with a winter rose. Shouldve just stayed in the north tbh.
Sound like lovers to me
Y'all are so obsessed with forcing homosexuality on everything aren't you
@@TheSpaniard that's crazy people for you
Always forcing shid down your throat just like they get done
In the tv show they both will be gay watch out folks. Juicy season coming our way! It’s going to one for the books!
Yum I want a pact with Craegan too
Pact with a bastard 😂😂😂😂😂.
Still a fucking targaryen blood!
@@MyKaty24 They are Targaryen from Wish
😮😢😢😢
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jeckaerys
Jacaerys was HIM.
They were lovers.
Strong alliance😊
So ur saying they had time to drink hunt and train together? While the war was starting?
JAKERES
I bet the tv series will turn them gay
You cant have someone as brother but also lover
Ja-Kay-eris smh
what episode is this?
Season 2 - episode 2
Wait!! So the starks do have Targaryen blood??
nope, this never happened bc jace died before ever having a daughter thus, the pact wasn’t able to be honored
only john snow
@@lolnty7408 oh ok thank you
@@cerinia gotcha thanks
Strong
How are people supposed to believe this guys some kind of game of thrones expert when he mispronounces every name.. guess it could be AI voiceover too
And people wonder why european dominated the globe, we built different, well were built different 😅
Jacerys targaryan
Blacks lost against greens. It was northern forces led by starks who crowned son of Rhaneyra after some dumbwit poisoned Aegon-the true king.
Isn't Jace already berthold to his stepsister Baela?
Yes, he made a pact to betrothe his future daughter with Cregan Starks son.
Bromance
Please start pronouncing his name correctly. It’s not K, it’s S sound.
Jake strong, not jake valeryn.
yeah the Targaryen's didn't fulfill their side of the pact.....
* couldn't *
@@lydiabrady9000 ....couldn't or wouldn't?
Couldn't @@zoluhwa3508
@@zoluhwa3508Jace dies before he's able to have a kid.......
@@zoluhwa3508 Jace couldn't cause he died before he even got married.
I'ma call it here. They both went woke and ....
Nah… woke is BS. It’s just bigoted people trying to justify hating on minority’s. The Only bad woke stuff is big corpo shows trying to go that way and appease more people. HBO is yet to reach that yet and Besides game of thrones has always been hit or miss. Personally HotD is a huge hit. Season 1 was amazing and so far season 2 is great and a good sign of GoT since DnD messed it up…
Woke wtf is woke and did they go woke ?
This show IS woke. Why do you think the sea snake & his family are black on the show?Theyre white in the books.
@@a.m928they went woke when they race swapped characters
Please can you pronounce the name correctly? No offence I dont want to sound rude but it does not sound right.
they literally pronounce the names in the show you youtube/tik tok people have seriously got to do a lil research before you make shit like this
That whole seen was bad acting. Whoever played Creegan Stark should never return. Could barely make it through the scene tbh.
Wait!? Isn't that grooming?
Why are people making this gay
Who is Je-Ke-eris?
Copying @daathrones content
Gay
and even seal the oath with marriage.🫣