@@royk.9347 That's right, I just get a little sun on my phone while traveling with the GPS on for an hour and it starts overheating, we are talking regular weather and just an hour of Google maps on a 2022 "flagship" smartphone... These devices are designed to radiate and dissipate heat, not to be radiated nor heated by anything external, anything inhibiting its ability to dissipate heat, such as being in direct sunlight, really messes up with smartphones, ANY smartphone.
There are already dashcam apps out there. I tested one a while ago and it works pretty well. Not as integrated as what was described here but it had most of the dedicated dashcam functions.
@@andrejgrbac3194 This was a few years ago so I don’t know if it’s still available but it’s called Autoboy from the Android App Store. It records video in a user selected time increments and stores them so they can be reviewed later. I just did a quick test with it on an older phone propped up against the windshield and dashboard. It worked okay. I ended up getting an actual dashcam because it’s not that conspicuous and you don’t have to keep mounting and dismounting and hiding it,
May Pixel 6 Pro overheats in about 30min and goes into night mode when using Google maps. It wouldn’t be able to handle being a dashcam, especially in an Australian summer!
Its really stupid that 99% of cars have 10 cameras but none of them do the most abvisous task! Wish is simply recording? It may increase the price of a car around 100$
Well, UV treatment and thermal management will be the next bullet point specs to market and implement. If not, lots of phones will breakdown or blow up in certain regions. It's still a great idea though. It's a good use of what we already have on hand and depending on the device, it would make for an infinitely better quality dash cam than is typically available where I live. Thumbs up from me 👍🏾
Everyone discussing about “Dogfood” builds and whatnot whilst I’m still stuck on the revelation that 9to5Google is a thing. I had no idea that existed but totally makes sense as the 9to5mac equivalent for all things pixel/android. Why am I only just hearing about it now
I'm sure that recording video, already a high heat producing activity for a phone, will be fine when it is sitting behind the windshield in the full sun. But, if you are interested in trying out this kind of thing, there are already Android and iOS apps available to turn a phone into a dashcam. Since you have to spend money on a mount anyway, getting a dedicated $100 dashcam is probably the better route.
A correction of the California law comment. In EVERY state the rear car in a read end accident is at fault. They have to keep an assured clear distance from the vehicles ahead. If a car in the rear is stopped, and a car backs up into them, the backing car would be at fault. The backing car owes the duty of care when backing. Now if both cars were moving there would be shared liability. In California they have pure comparative liability laws. This means that if the other driver is found to be 60% at fault, their insurance company only owes 60% of your damages. This is not an insurance company rule. Each company has to abide by the insurance laws of each state they do business in.
Three things. For this you will likely need a new phone holder, because most of them block the view ahead. Then, temperatures will be a problem, as they always are when the sun shines and you are using the GPS at the same time. Adding one background process to this will not help at all. Lastly, most dash cams have a 180 degree FOV while phones don't really go beyond 90 degrees.
Once Google phones get the dashcam feature - we won't be far from a commercial self-driving Google car. That's a lot of driving and road data they can collect from the devices for the AI to learn.
The iPhone example is definitely a software optimisation issue, it's possible to do high quality screen recording and other high performance audio workloads at the same time, albeit still generating a lot of heat and murdering the battery.
Hi guys I have a topic for you. Can you talk about using two languages on your phone? I'm using Android. I find myself in the situation where I want to use system language American English, and for everything else language, and settings for different country. I don't feel comfortable using English for tax, financial or medical information. Many apps have bad translation, and there's no way to change language unless you change system. Same goes with measurement system. In my country we use metric, but because I use American English, apps trying use imperial. And even when where is a choice to change it, something is mostly broken. Apps changing settings after update to match system etc.... language.
I've been working in the software business for 13 years and never heard the expression Dog Food. Pre-Alpha, Alpha, Beta and so on are the actual names most companies use. Dog Food sounds like something a single company made up for themselves joking and you guys catched up on it :P
wouldn't it be great if we can use back camera, front camera, and even the rear camera of the car as phone will be connected to Android auto, so technically it can take recording from that
am i the only one thinking this is a bad idea? smartphones are not designed to film continuously. they heat up easily (especially right under the windshield in the sun). also will be using up a lot of battery so it will need to be plugged in and charging continuously (which also makes a phone heat up). basically instant battery degradation. using ur phone for navigation all the time is already bad enough
I haven't used a phone mount in my car ever since I got a car with Apply Carplay. With the GPS on the infotainment screen itself, there's no need for a phone mounted on the windshield blocking visibility. So this feature isn't even for me. I just wish every car that had a front facing camera also used it for dashcam. Mine has a front camera, but it's only for collision warnings.
“Eating our own dog food” was a saying that was used in my tech company for a while now and I heard it came from Microsoft. It meant that we used our own software. There was no dog food builds though.
Agree even better if it would detected number plates of each car that entered the footage and stored a single high quality frame of it. 1080 or 720p 15fps is fine to get an idea of what happened only time you need the higher quality is to check plates - would solve this issue entirely.
I think dash cam on phones are actually silly. Like dash GPS systems they will quickly be replaced. Cars now have cameras all over. They need to come out with a way that uses those cameras to record.
The issue is Google listening in on car conversations. Just another way for them to sink their teeth in. Dashcams from the store use an SD card and don’t connect to the internet
Phones being a dash cam is too distracting I think. I think the better approach is to have the interior mirror double up as a dash cam which syncs to car play / auto.
You know how many last gen phones I have laying around that I could use as a dash cam? I upgrade my phone every year and a half, I have a Motorola edge plus collecting dust that could be used as a dash cam and navigation.
I don’t want this. But I desperately want to be able to run Openpilot on my iPhone without buying a Comma 3. It simply must have the necessary compute and cameras to run.
That fake news about at fault in California. Obviously. If you have a dash cam to prove someone back into you, then you're not a fault. The only other issue is when you don't have the camera and someone box into you is hard to disapprove. Even if it's just facing forward, a dash cam is great for showing that you're just minding your own business going forward and someone either change laning to you or hit you from the side, because it actually shows that you're just going forward in your own lane. The other issue with having your phone on the windshield as a dash cam is that it's not rated for the heat through the windshield. On top of adding heat from the recording that he threw the windshield is intense and the phone is not ready for that type of heat. Especially when you're driving an hour in the sun. Unless you're a baller and you get those heat reduction film over you windshield, then maybe that'll work
if you drive into the back of someone, it’s almost always your fault, regardless of any emergency situation happening in front of you. i don’t know how clear this is in the IS but it’s stated in law in the UK; you have to maintain stopping distance all the time, all the time. LA drivers in particular are atrocious at this.
Get ready for phones heating up fast with all that background processing.
The sun doesn’t help either
@@royk.9347 That's right, I just get a little sun on my phone while traveling with the GPS on for an hour and it starts overheating, we are talking regular weather and just an hour of Google maps on a 2022 "flagship" smartphone... These devices are designed to radiate and dissipate heat, not to be radiated nor heated by anything external, anything inhibiting its ability to dissipate heat, such as being in direct sunlight, really messes up with smartphones, ANY smartphone.
@@royk.9347 Yeah I was gonna say this 😂😂😂. I remember my pixel 3xl days it'll get super hot on very sunny days.
@@josevalenzuela142I have a pixel 6a with the same issue. The phone would shut off when it overheats.
And the pixels already heat up fast. It's fucking annoying
There are already dashcam apps out there. I tested one a while ago and it works pretty well. Not as integrated as what was described here but it had most of the dedicated dashcam functions.
@@KalebPrentice That's literally what he said
Which one?
@@andrejgrbac3194 This was a few years ago so I don’t know if it’s still available but it’s called Autoboy from the Android App Store. It records video in a user selected time increments and stores them so they can be reviewed later. I just did a quick test with it on an older phone propped up against the windshield and dashboard. It worked okay. I ended up getting an actual dashcam because it’s not that conspicuous and you don’t have to keep mounting and dismounting and hiding it,
Google will happily store all your driving footage on GCP servers free of charge, worth it just for the dataset for FSD
I’ve been doing this since I’ve had my Galaxy Note 4 way back when. Worked really well and the app was feature rich and very stable.
May Pixel 6 Pro overheats in about 30min and goes into night mode when using Google maps. It wouldn’t be able to handle being a dashcam, especially in an Australian summer!
Its really stupid that 99% of cars have 10 cameras but none of them do the most abvisous task! Wish is simply recording?
It may increase the price of a car around 100$
Well, UV treatment and thermal management will be the next bullet point specs to market and implement. If not, lots of phones will breakdown or blow up in certain regions. It's still a great idea though. It's a good use of what we already have on hand and depending on the device, it would make for an infinitely better quality dash cam than is typically available where I live. Thumbs up from me 👍🏾
Too bad it's only for the latest pixels(or at least newer model phones), this would be a great way to reuse old phones
Everyone discussing about “Dogfood” builds and whatnot whilst I’m still stuck on the revelation that 9to5Google is a thing.
I had no idea that existed but totally makes sense as the 9to5mac equivalent for all things pixel/android. Why am I only just hearing about it now
Are you super engrossed into Apple and nothing else? Serious question
Why is that surprising lol, I think most android users have come across it once or twice
Not really surprising
I am a developer and did not know what a dog food build was. This seems to be a not widely used term. Pre-Alpha is more commonly used i.m.o.
4:53 I have watched this so many times. It literally sounds like only 1 person said it. Exact tone and everything.
I'm sure that recording video, already a high heat producing activity for a phone, will be fine when it is sitting behind the windshield in the full sun. But, if you are interested in trying out this kind of thing, there are already Android and iOS apps available to turn a phone into a dashcam. Since you have to spend money on a mount anyway, getting a dedicated $100 dashcam is probably the better route.
MKBHD is so obviously an extreme intellect. Phenomenal
I love both drawing.
A correction of the California law comment. In EVERY state the rear car in a read end accident is at fault. They have to keep an assured clear distance from the vehicles ahead. If a car in the rear is stopped, and a car backs up into them, the backing car would be at fault. The backing car owes the duty of care when backing. Now if both cars were moving there would be shared liability. In California they have pure comparative liability laws. This means that if the other driver is found to be 60% at fault, their insurance company only owes 60% of your damages. This is not an insurance company rule. Each company has to abide by the insurance laws of each state they do business in.
Hands down, Marques won the 5 sec car drawing challenge.
Three things. For this you will likely need a new phone holder, because most of them block the view ahead. Then, temperatures will be a problem, as they always are when the sun shines and you are using the GPS at the same time. Adding one background process to this will not help at all. Lastly, most dash cams have a 180 degree FOV while phones don't really go beyond 90 degrees.
Depends on where you live, but under Tropic of Cancer, it'll definitely overheat the phone.
Once Google phones get the dashcam feature - we won't be far from a commercial self-driving Google car. That's a lot of driving and road data they can collect from the devices for the AI to learn.
will also help significantly with google maps data.
Free data collection was the first thing that came to mind
Could be dangerous promoting your phone being attached at head level. During a crash it’s a object with crazy acceleration.
I have to put a vent to directly blast my phone mounted in the glass, otherwise overheats within 8 minutes, how are they addressing this issue?
The iPhone example is definitely a software optimisation issue, it's possible to do high quality screen recording and other high performance audio workloads at the same time, albeit still generating a lot of heat and murdering the battery.
Hi guys I have a topic for you. Can you talk about using two languages on your phone? I'm using Android. I find myself in the situation where I want to use system language American English, and for everything else language, and settings for different country. I don't feel comfortable using English for tax, financial or medical information. Many apps have bad translation, and there's no way to change language unless you change system. Same goes with measurement system. In my country we use metric, but because I use American English, apps trying use imperial. And even when where is a choice to change it, something is mostly broken. Apps changing settings after update to match system etc.... language.
I've been working in the software business for 13 years and never heard the expression Dog Food.
Pre-Alpha, Alpha, Beta and so on are the actual names most companies use.
Dog Food sounds like something a single company made up for themselves joking and you guys catched up on it :P
If you use this regularly the battery churn will be nuts!
There's nothing like a Dog Food Build, Lol🤣
My dashcam gets scorching hot in the Florida heat. They are built with that in mind.
MKB getting better with drawing.Have a great day everyone ✌️
wouldn't it be great if we can use back camera, front camera, and even the rear camera of the car as phone will be connected to Android auto, so technically it can take recording from that
am i the only one thinking this is a bad idea?
smartphones are not designed to film continuously. they heat up easily (especially right under the windshield in the sun). also will be using up a lot of battery so it will need to be plugged in and charging continuously (which also makes a phone heat up). basically instant battery degradation. using ur phone for navigation all the time is already bad enough
My phone normally heats up just sitting on the dash playing music on a hot summers day. This sounds like a good idea, but I’m practice…?
11:28 bro that car looks like a dog🤣🤣, maybe the conversation tainted Marques' mind
Heat of the windshield with destroy the battery......potential bomb.
I haven't used a phone mount in my car ever since I got a car with Apply Carplay. With the GPS on the infotainment screen itself, there's no need for a phone mounted on the windshield blocking visibility. So this feature isn't even for me. I just wish every car that had a front facing camera also used it for dashcam. Mine has a front camera, but it's only for collision warnings.
Fish food > Dog food > Alpha > Beta > Stable
It comes from the saying “eating your own dog food”…
04:39 lol
“Eating our own dog food” was a saying that was used in my tech company for a while now and I heard it came from Microsoft. It meant that we used our own software. There was no dog food builds though.
I think 720p on the dashcam is a good number
For dashcam there are a dozen of apps. Also dashcam should be not configured beyong 1080p@15fps, makes no sense to record 4k@60fps
Agree even better if it would detected number plates of each car that entered the footage and stored a single high quality frame of it. 1080 or 720p 15fps is fine to get an idea of what happened only time you need the higher quality is to check plates - would solve this issue entirely.
Love your videos from Denver CO
I think dash cam on phones are actually silly. Like dash GPS systems they will quickly be replaced. Cars now have cameras all over. They need to come out with a way that uses those cameras to record.
What happens to android auto when being used as a dash cam?
The issue is Google listening in on car conversations. Just another way for them to sink their teeth in. Dashcams from the store use an SD card and don’t connect to the internet
camera app: am I a joke to you?
If you don’t hook it up to a power source, RIP battery.
I’ll buy one just for a dash cam
Never heard of a dogfood build, but have been dog-fooding my own and my teams' work for decades ...
Love the podcast! Entertaining!
Great use for an old phone!
Phones being a dash cam is too distracting I think. I think the better approach is to have the interior mirror double up as a dash cam which syncs to car play / auto.
I worked for BMW and we did use dogfooding
You have to eat your own dogfood before you give it out to your dog.
I feel like the dash cam feature isn't that useful for me because of where I mounted my phone.
You know how many last gen phones I have laying around that I could use as a dash cam? I upgrade my phone every year and a half, I have a Motorola edge plus collecting dust that could be used as a dash cam and navigation.
10:32 fin.
Because you can’t always have what you want.
Must fix the heating issues first
Too bad the pixel overheats so quickly. It's probably a problem.
David’s car won!
I don’t want this. But I desperately want to be able to run Openpilot on my iPhone without buying a Comma 3. It simply must have the necessary compute and cameras to run.
Dude got a Kinect 360 shirt lol
We can use a spare phone for this
… I don’t think describing the components of a thing is the same as what the thing is itself … nevertheless, great fun
the comment in the video about the person in the rear of a rear end crash being at fault 100% in California and is false
My phone records over 1GB per minute.
That fake news about at fault in California. Obviously. If you have a dash cam to prove someone back into you, then you're not a fault. The only other issue is when you don't have the camera and someone box into you is hard to disapprove. Even if it's just facing forward, a dash cam is great for showing that you're just minding your own business going forward and someone either change laning to you or hit you from the side, because it actually shows that you're just going forward in your own lane.
The other issue with having your phone on the windshield as a dash cam is that it's not rated for the heat through the windshield. On top of adding heat from the recording that he threw the windshield is intense and the phone is not ready for that type of heat. Especially when you're driving an hour in the sun. Unless you're a baller and you get those heat reduction film over you windshield, then maybe that'll work
I like Marques car.
cat food has more protein than dog food ;)
How on earth 3 megabytes per minute equals to 1.8 gigabytes per hour? It’s actually 180 megabytes per hour. 4:10
30 megabytes
MB who will win it all in the NHL and NBA?
Sounds like a Comma device
Please don’t exploit this someone… Earlier Pixels had unlimited photo and video backup on Google Photos… Ahm…
Toyota tundra has it
if you drive into the back of someone, it’s almost always your fault, regardless of any emergency situation happening in front of you. i don’t know how clear this is in the IS but it’s stated in law in the UK; you have to maintain stopping distance all the time, all the time. LA drivers in particular are atrocious at this.
Is not useful in today's phones, they would overheat easily.
How can you be so bad at math? :))
They should just record 4K time lapses or very low fps video to save space
Who tastes dog food?
9to5Google is everything Google. 9to5Mac is everything Apple. Love those Websites/Channels.
Dog food means a whole different thing on the streets of New York
more like dawg...lol