Tankathon isn't wrong it's just assuming if both teams lose out the remaining games Raiders get the #1 pick, now if the season ended today yes the Giants would have the #1 pick excluding the last remaining games
Tankathon does it the right way. For strength of schedule it factors in the records of ALL the teams on an individual team's schedule, for the entire season. There is still time for the Giants to overtake the Raiders in the SoS tiebreaker, but at this point it appears that the Raiders will win the tiebreaker and get the #1 overall pick, if both teams loose out.
When they say Shedeur is not a Trevor Lawrence coming out of college is so dumb!! It doesn't matter what people say about the QB coming out its about what he does in the NFL. Why does it matter what people say about him when we have more then enough proof that QBs that are called elite become bust and vice versa. Zach Wilson, Sam Darnald just got good, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb is struggling, Lamar Jackson was past on and drafted at the end of the 1st round. So when these radio guy say this class isn't the class they sound like fans off the street aren't they suppose to be smarter??
I try to vision the AFC West and I think Cam ward gives the raiders the biggest advantage going against the AFC West! Raiders and Giants should be happy to have either one QB!
@@abefroman4715 if that happens I'll come back to this and proclaim you smarter than every single draft analyst. lol. None of them think anybody from this class is a special talent. I saw a QB ranking that combined this years and last years class. Shaduer, who they had the top ranked QB in the 2025 class, went 5th behind Caleb, Jayden, Maye and Nix.
Travis Hunter is the best player! He's a day one guy. Fire Schoen because he's going to be desperate, pick a QB and spend the cap to save his job. They can't let him do anymore damage.
I hate this talk about can’t miss quarterbacks. We’ve seen time after time that’s a BS media phrase. QBs are evaluated incorrectly most of the time. Not including the ones that fail because they play for terrible organizations.
Giants and Raiders both need qbs. It doesn't matter what they need. Qbs grow with the team with new additions. Cam and sheduer can fit anywhere. They workout like pro athletes already.
Drafting a QB like Ward, Sanders is setting yourself up for selecting another QB in three years. Start acquiring talented players (i.e. Travis Hunter) or compile draft assets by trading down. Go get a veteran stop gap QB who comes with a cap friendly hit and build a team that is a QB away.
Been saying that over and over. You could put prime John Elway back there and he will get pummeled. We're not one player away. Set up a team where any QB coming in down the road is set up for success.
Completely wrong take. The draft is a dart throw. Sanders and Ward are just as likely to become a franchise QB as anyone coming next year or the year after
@@jasperfloyd3416 You certainly didn't understand the point I made, clearly. It wasn't an indictment on Ward, Sanders (though I don't like either QB), but the realization that the team needs to draft BPA before it concerns itself with a QB.
As a Giants fan the 2nd overall pick isnt worth jack if schoen is picking it. This franchise needs a clean page. If they wanna take Cam (which most of us would love!) then so be it, but if a new gm says fck this lets trade back take bpa and stack picks in addition to a decent bridge qb, that wouldnt be as bad as well! But again it all comes down to who’s making the call. GOD HEAR OUR PRAYERS AND DO NOT LET JOE BE IN THAT DRAFT ROOM!
and totally agree with boomer having the second pick would be WAYYY better! This fanbase will explode on who to pick we had enough. If its Cam thats second ir Shedeur it’ll be okay we got this guy but not that we had a choice tbh…
@6hazar but no one wins without a qb so we're not gonna see a huge difference in the team. If we take Travis hunter our defense get better and with a bridge qb get what 6 or 7 wins if that. I don't think you take a qb unless they love the guy. If not we improve enough to not get a top qb next year, But I see both sides
I do not want Sanders!!! Deon can be problematic in my view as Deon demands the limelight and he will Critique the coaching all day long about how his son is being coached. The Giants DO NOT NEED That!!! I want Cam as the Giants Q.B.
Perfect scenario...Giants get the first overall pick. They trade Jalin Hyatt to the Patriots (or whomever has the third overall pick) and also give them this year's second round pick and next year's first round pick for the 3rd overall pick. Why do this? You draft Travis Hunter #1 overall and then select the QB that is left w/ the 3rd pick (Ward or Sanders). The Giants roster isn't as bad as it appears, and this is the time to take a risk. They could add needed depth through the draft and free agency with a healthy amount of cap room. This gives you two years to evaluate the new QB and if necessary, you could use the 2027 first round pick to get a QB (Arch Manning).
Someone will always want to trade up for a QB no matter how bad the class is. Giants have 0 viable QBs on their roster so I think they have to take one.
The GIANTS will mess this up and win another game. This isn’t a great draft to get the top pick in. Shedur Sanders and Cam Ward are good, but they are not like other prospects in the past.
@ agreed. Mahomes, Stroud, Josh Allen, Lama Jackson and many others were not viewed as being elite. And those guys are elite. I like Shedur and Cam a lot. The GIANTS are a really bad team. It is not fair to expect Shedur or Cam to lift this franchise. That’s what I was getting at.
Tankathon isn't wrong it's just assuming if both teams lose out the remaining games Raiders get the #1 pick, now if the season ended today yes the Giants would have the #1 pick excluding the last remaining games
What does that have to do with strength of schedule?
Tankathon does it the right way. For strength of schedule it factors in the records of ALL the teams on an individual team's schedule, for the entire season. There is still time for the Giants to overtake the Raiders in the SoS tiebreaker, but at this point it appears that the Raiders will win the tiebreaker and get the #1 overall pick, if both teams loose out.
@jimsullivan3219 if you actually listen to the entire video, or even half, they said this.
BRUH....the season doesn't end today.
When they say Shedeur is not a Trevor Lawrence coming out of college is so dumb!! It doesn't matter what people say about the QB coming out its about what he does in the NFL. Why does it matter what people say about him when we have more then enough proof that QBs that are called elite become bust and vice versa. Zach Wilson, Sam Darnald just got good, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb is struggling, Lamar Jackson was past on and drafted at the end of the 1st round. So when these radio guy say this class isn't the class they sound like fans off the street aren't they suppose to be smarter??
I try to vision the AFC West and I think Cam ward gives the raiders the biggest advantage going against the AFC West! Raiders and Giants should be happy to have either one QB!
Of all the years to tank for the #1 pick they happen to do it in the one with the most mid QB class. lol
I’ll bet Sanders and Ward end up better than last yrs class
@@abefroman4715 if that happens I'll come back to this and proclaim you smarter than every single draft analyst. lol. None of them think anybody from this class is a special talent. I saw a QB ranking that combined this years and last years class. Shaduer, who they had the top ranked QB in the 2025 class, went 5th behind Caleb, Jayden, Maye and Nix.
@@brandondillman5841That's not bad company though
The top 2 QBs aren't mid, everyone below them definitely 100% mid
Ward is the best QB in the last two draft classes and will be better than any QB coming out next year.
Travis Hunter is the best player! He's a day one guy. Fire Schoen because he's going to be desperate, pick a QB and spend the cap to save his job. They can't let him do anymore damage.
This is a horrible QB draft, absolutely no reason to draft a QB other than Klubnik or King if they come out. They are mid 1st rd picks
The Giants will get Shedeur
But I thought the Giants were racist?? "They'll never draft a black QB."
I hate this talk about can’t miss quarterbacks. We’ve seen time after time that’s a BS media phrase. QBs are evaluated incorrectly most of the time. Not including the ones that fail because they play for terrible organizations.
Giants and Raiders both need qbs. It doesn't matter what they need. Qbs grow with the team with new additions. Cam and sheduer can fit anywhere. They workout like pro athletes already.
Whether Giants #1 or #2, I’m rooting for Shedeur.
Kind of like Bledsoe vs mirer draft
Drafting a QB like Ward, Sanders is setting yourself up for selecting another QB in three years. Start acquiring talented players (i.e. Travis Hunter) or compile draft assets by trading down. Go get a veteran stop gap QB who comes with a cap friendly hit and build a team that is a QB away.
Been saying that over and over. You could put prime John Elway back there and he will get pummeled. We're not one player away. Set up a team where any QB coming in down the road is set up for success.
Completely wrong take. The draft is a dart throw. Sanders and Ward are just as likely to become a franchise QB as anyone coming next year or the year after
@@jasperfloyd3416 You certainly didn't understand the point I made, clearly. It wasn't an indictment on Ward, Sanders (though I don't like either QB), but the realization that the team needs to draft BPA before it concerns itself with a QB.
I don’t get why ppl hype sanders so much and don’t have nowhere the same energy for cam ward cam is much better
As a Giants fan the 2nd overall pick isnt worth jack if schoen is picking it. This franchise needs a clean page. If they wanna take Cam (which most of us would love!) then so be it, but if a new gm says fck this lets trade back take bpa and stack picks in addition to a decent bridge qb, that wouldnt be as bad as well! But again it all comes down to who’s making the call. GOD HEAR OUR PRAYERS AND DO NOT LET JOE BE IN THAT DRAFT ROOM!
and totally agree with boomer having the second pick would be WAYYY better! This fanbase will explode on who to pick we had enough. If its Cam thats second ir Shedeur it’ll be okay we got this guy but not that we had a choice tbh…
I think whoever is picking it people are gonna complain. Some would say bpa others qb.
@@peterkaufman5624 trueee but if they pick the qb we at least can be sure that they didn’t do it just to save their ass…
@6hazar but no one wins without a qb so we're not gonna see a huge difference in the team. If we take Travis hunter our defense get better and with a bridge qb get what 6 or 7 wins if that. I don't think you take a qb unless they love the guy. If not we improve enough to not get a top qb next year, But I see both sides
Cam Ward, I like him better than Sanders, Giants need to build the team around his strengths but I dont trust coaching staff
Cam ward arm is much better Sanders has pea shooter .
Cam Ward is the guy!
yup, the for the Raiders
Guys do you know why Shedur is going to the Raiders? Tom Brady! Tom Brady was mentoring him since he was in HS.
Shedeur wants to be a Giant
And so does Cam
Ok Dieon...😂
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I do not want Sanders!!!
Deon can be problematic in my view as Deon demands the limelight and he will Critique the coaching all day long about how his son is being coached.
The Giants DO NOT NEED That!!!
I want Cam as the Giants Q.B.
@@toddmarble6217doesn’t matter what you want. It’s just football.
It’s all about FIT
How many azz QBs have been drafted 1 or 2. It’s a shit ton. Like a small insurance business worth of good QBs.
Travis hunter is that guy. Giants are not a QB away from doing anything. Build a team a new QB can benefit from.
Couldn’t agree more!!I will not be happy if we draft one of these qbs over Travis
Yeah the Commanders and Bengals were not a QB away, they should've taken non-QBs instead of Daniels and Burrow respectively. LOL.
@ I hear you, it worked out for them. However, neither Cam or Shooter are Burrows or Daniels in comparison.
Wait for Arch Madness
Perfect scenario...Giants get the first overall pick. They trade Jalin Hyatt to the Patriots (or whomever has the third overall pick) and also give them this year's second round pick and next year's first round pick for the 3rd overall pick. Why do this? You draft Travis Hunter #1 overall and then select the QB that is left w/ the 3rd pick (Ward or Sanders). The Giants roster isn't as bad as it appears, and this is the time to take a risk. They could add needed depth through the draft and free agency with a healthy amount of cap room. This gives you two years to evaluate the new QB and if necessary, you could use the 2027 first round pick to get a QB (Arch Manning).
This is the draft you trade back in, but no one will want to trade up tho
Someone will always want to trade up for a QB no matter how bad the class is. Giants have 0 viable QBs on their roster so I think they have to take one.
Why not wait on drafting a QB , build your team, and wait for Manning. How can you let another team draft Manning
He’s not a special talent. Stop it
Giants fans are doomed until Mara stops making ANY football decisions
These guys are acting giants is too good for shedeur is hilarious 😂😂
There's video out there with Daddy Deion and Antonio Pierce. Daddy telling AP that he wants his boy with the Raiders.
Meanwhile Mark Davis is already making plans to have Pierce fired for Deion.
that was year-old video.... Shedeur is going to NY
Trade back and get picks. This team stinks and we need a lot more than just drafting a quarterback
The GIANTS will mess this up and win another game.
This isn’t a great draft to get the top pick in. Shedur Sanders and Cam Ward are good, but they are not like other prospects in the past.
People say that every year about prospects and vi versa. We will never know
@ agreed. Mahomes, Stroud, Josh Allen, Lama Jackson and many others were not viewed as being elite. And those guys are elite.
I like Shedur and Cam a lot. The GIANTS are a really bad team. It is not fair to expect Shedur or Cam to lift this franchise. That’s what I was getting at.
@TommyRibs i feel we need some energy in the room with the giants. If we keep going like this, they good players we do have will be gone
@@antoinewhite6697 we need hope, we need a QB that can spin the ball and inspire the guys around him.
Booomer is being idiotic you know damn well both teams are losing out
Shadeur Sanders isn't Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning? This is the first time I'm hearing it. You're telling me for the first time...
neither one of those QB was who they turned out to be when they got drafted
The Giants are so bad, they will get Daniel Jones back as their QB
Mike Borgonzi, Mike Vrabel, Cam Ward. GIANTS 2025
Cam Ward is the guy!!! His arm talent is elite!!
Best choice for NYG
Shedeur is the best QB between the two
None of these guys is worth tanking for, in fact, NO ONE IS WORTH TANKING FOR!!!!!
speak for yourself whiteboy