No that is not true. He was a big part in developing Allen, go ask Allen himself. Just because he is a BAD HC doesn't mean he was a bad OC. Joe Schein might also not be a great GM...
So wrong. He didn't MAKE Allen, but he developed Allen. Allen was indisputably the least accurate QB during 2018 and 2019, a QB with so much physical talent who needed to be groomed by the right offensive coach. Daboll enhanced him over a 4 year period. Go back and watch, unless you just want to spew lazy takes instead of factual observations.
@ you can predict a bust on a QB specially first round picks but you can’t say the same for a extremely talented WR/CB wherever he end up he’ll be catching passes or intercepting them.
Why is Rich, or anyone else, convinced that Brian Daboll is worthy of having a job? He's done nothing. Josh Allen is gonna be MVP this year without him while he chased his QB out of town. He's achieved nothing. His teams have quit on him and his defensive coordinator quit in a huff because he hated working with him. Why would anyone employ this guy?
Wait. He chased Jones out of town? It wasn't the fan base that was fed up with with paying a barely mediocre QB a top five cap hit? Jones gets credit for that Minnesota win, but Daboll gets none for that season with that terrible QB and that roster?😂😂🙄
Some people simply aren't meant to be HC. Period. They are great coordinators but just don't have it to oversee the entire thing instead of only one particular side of the ball. Right now Brian looks to be exactly that: a great ccordinator but just not HC material. After 48 games he has a paltry winning percentage of .365! What else do you need to know?
@@vernonbandy2597 - No, the fan base doesn't make personnel decisions. And Daboll gets tons of credit. So much so that he's still the coach despite running this situation into the ground.
@@masterofallgoons Well, I am since he really helped develop Josh Allen and we had some great seasons with him calling plays and some parts of his offense still exist today allthough tweaked by Joe Brady. But I am not convinced Joe Schoen is a decent GM and that the pairing Schoen/Daboll was such a great idea in the first place. If Daboll were a decent HC he would have brought in a competent OC and let him call plays while he runs the entire team - which good HC's do.
I’ve yet to see someone ranting that Schoen and Daboll have to go suggest who exactly the Giants are going to hire to replace them and how likely is it that that candidate or those candidates want the job?
It’s funny, I have some international friends that started watching the NFL in the last decade. They ONLY know my Giants as the biggest joke of the league. They missed all four of the Super Bowls, and me telling them about those wins means nothing to them. They say stuff like “well, that team WAS playing the Giants”
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You can tell Giants fans get their QB information from tv. None of them actually watch college football or can give 5 QB’s that might be great pro’s other than the top two. None of them have even done the combine yet. Neither of the top two have played any competition or a great defense.
Nobody's trying to "force" a Sanders to NYG narrative. As it stands now, either the Raiders or the Giants will have the #1 overall pick and (also as of now) most assume that will be Sanders, since both teams desperately need a QB.
If the Giants are competent at all (we all know they are not) they clean house and trade their pick. They are a dumpster fire with no OL outside of Andrew Thomas and bringing in a new QB will not fix any of their problems, they need to completely rebuilt the team first.
I'm done with the overturn every 3 years. Give these guy a chance to truly start over, although I'm not sure there is a franchse QB in this draft. If anything, do what Gettleman did not the year he took Jones: trade down. Also, go out and get a vet QB on 1-2 yr deal to keep the seat warm in 2025. I mean, I've grown used to losing, so why not another season?
Let us continue to blame Daniel Jones. If the rookie QB struggles next year, Daniel Jones will be blamed. The Big 2 saying bye-bye to the pro-bowl players and/or captains shall never be blamed for the terrible roster.
They already made a blunder giving Daniel jones that contract . If they weren’t sold on him, don’t give him the contract. If the GM wanted him and Daboll didn’t, then that just shows dysfunction and lack of sync between the HC and GM. Do the giants have any confidence they’ll pick the right QB?
Daboll gets way too much credit for Josh Allen because Josh Allen is still Josh Allen without Brian Daboll. And part of the Giants problem is Daboll's dog 💩 play calling.
NY draft Travis Hunter!! The Giants are not a QB away from winning and they can get a serviceable QB later in the draft. This line isn't protecting any QB in the immediate future.
Giants fans have been spoiled, honestly. They whine and cry like the Giants didnt win one superbowl in 4 consecutive decades. 2020s arent even half over, plenty of time to keep that streak.
What I want to know is how John Mara will be able to justify keeping schoen and daboll especially after schoen has let this team's best players walk for nothing and passing on a qb in last year's draft. Joe schoen is incompetent and an arrogant moron. All you have to do is watch the hard knocks episodes from the off season to come to this conclusion. FIRE THEM ALL MR MARA AND NOW
No one can save this team as long as John Mara owns it. If I were Sanders or Ward, I would refuse to play for this team. Mara is the worst owner in the NFL because he refuses to get his own family out of the draft process. And Joe Schoen has been a disaster as GM. How do you gut a team of all of its talent while getting in further salary cap hell?
Travis Hunter, the number 6 receiver THIS YEAR? And not even in the top 100 receivers all time? And yes, he is a decent DB, playing an uninspired schedule. And as a DB, 8th in passes defended, 18th in interceptions. He is a very good player, but not a magnificent talent on either side of the ball. Jeanty also has a mediocre schedule, but he is the #1 rusher this year, and the #4 single season runner of all time. And it is probable that if Deion Sanders is not the coach, we hear very little about Hunter. I do hear that he is projected to go in the top 5 of the draft, but I have doubts that he will be all that in the NFL. Will revisit in a year, and will either crow or eat crow on this post.
In 2022, it was Gentleman's players, Wink dialing up the D, Barkley's running and Kafka calling the plays. Since that time, it's a dumpster fire. They could've drafted a QB and the players they did draft, the track record is not good. Daboll's mishandled the staff and it's terrible. 2022 record (9-7-1 and 4-7-1 Conf) beat a terrible Viking team and smoked by Eagles in Playoffs 2023 record (6-11 and 5-7 Conf) - no post season. Forced Wink out and let #26 leave 2024 record (2-12, 0-8 at home and 0-5 Conf) - eliminated from post season on Thanksgiving
I’ve yet to see someone ranting that Schoen and Daboll have to go suggest who exactly the Giants are going to hire to replace them and how likely is it that that candidate or those candidates want the job?
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Daboll gotta go. He is no qb whisperer. He did not make Allen. Allen boosted Daboll's reputation.
No that is not true.
He was a big part in developing Allen, go ask Allen himself.
Just because he is a BAD HC doesn't mean he was a bad OC.
Joe Schein might also not be a great GM...
💯 agree
So wrong. He didn't MAKE Allen, but he developed Allen. Allen was indisputably the least accurate QB during 2018 and 2019, a QB with so much physical talent who needed to be groomed by the right offensive coach. Daboll enhanced him over a 4 year period. Go back and watch, unless you just want to spew lazy takes instead of factual observations.
@@pnwguy00 let's fire Daboll, so he can go back to the OC role and have success. He's has a terrible record as a HC and that's a fact.
Fire Everyone.
Joe Schoen is going to unleash his inner Dave Gettleman and draft Ashton Jeanty at Number 2.
lolololol
LMAO. I think you are right.
I feel this in my soul
If he stays I go
No he’s not. But he just might. LoL.
Cam ward seems the best choice no Deion baggage
Actress Kate Mara Knows better Football Knowledge then any one in that office.Fact,watch her interviews.
worst record in giants history!
The Giants were never going to beat the Ravens but this was a bit embarrassing none the less
If I’m the giants i bypass shedeur and draft hunter. Stay away from the sanders
Hunter is gonna be a bust too.
@ you can predict a bust on a QB specially first round picks but you can’t say the same for a extremely talented WR/CB wherever he end up he’ll be catching passes or intercepting them.
Why is Rich, or anyone else, convinced that Brian Daboll is worthy of having a job? He's done nothing. Josh Allen is gonna be MVP this year without him while he chased his QB out of town. He's achieved nothing. His teams have quit on him and his defensive coordinator quit in a huff because he hated working with him. Why would anyone employ this guy?
Wait. He chased Jones out of town? It wasn't the fan base that was fed up with with paying a barely mediocre QB a top five cap hit? Jones gets credit for that Minnesota win, but Daboll gets none for that season with that terrible QB and that roster?😂😂🙄
Some people simply aren't meant to be HC.
Period.
They are great coordinators but just don't have it to oversee the entire thing instead of only one particular side of the ball.
Right now Brian looks to be exactly that: a great ccordinator but just not HC material.
After 48 games he has a paltry winning percentage of .365!
What else do you need to know?
@@vernonbandy2597 - No, the fan base doesn't make personnel decisions. And Daboll gets tons of credit. So much so that he's still the coach despite running this situation into the ground.
@@Lovemate5571 I'm not convinced he's a great coordinator either. He's certainly not a great or even decent play caller.
@@masterofallgoons Well, I am since he really helped develop Josh Allen and we had some great seasons with him calling plays
and some parts of his offense still exist today allthough tweaked by Joe Brady.
But I am not convinced Joe Schoen is a decent GM and that the pairing Schoen/Daboll was such a great idea in the first place.
If Daboll were a decent HC he would have brought in a competent OC and let him call plays while he runs the entire team - which good HC's do.
I’ve yet to see someone ranting that Schoen and Daboll have to go suggest who exactly the Giants are going to hire to replace them and how likely is it that that candidate or those candidates want the job?
It’s funny, I have some international friends that started watching the NFL in the last decade. They ONLY know my Giants as the biggest joke of the league. They missed all four of the Super Bowls, and me telling them about those wins means nothing to them. They say stuff like “well, that team WAS playing the Giants”
I hope you’re right, Rich. Panic firings never work. Two years to build a winner starting with the draft.
Does hanging on to the wrong guy just so as to appear like you're not panicking ever work?
They started drafting in 2022 and have had 3 draft classes, so look at the lack of talent on the team and expect more of that.
1:24 "MetLife can't quit Tim Boyle". That sums up things in NY, right now.
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Get a DC & trade Thibs & Burns for draft picks.
You can tell Giants fans get their QB information from tv. None of them actually watch college football or can give 5 QB’s that might be great pro’s other than the top two. None of them have even done the combine yet. Neither of the top two have played any competition or a great defense.
Giants should demote Daboll to OC, hire Belichick to coach, and Saleh for DC.
😂😂😂 From your comment it's clearly evident that you're a "casual" football fan.
Belichick is already HC at UNC.
Crazy that gettleman is better than Schoen
Many of the players from the 2022 team were his players!
Why does it seem like everyone but Shedeur, Deion, and the Raiders are trying desperately to force this Sanders to the Giants narrative?
Cam is going to ny.. either way saucy qb coach is going to be in NY
Nobody's trying to "force" a Sanders to NYG narrative. As it stands now, either the Raiders or the Giants will have the #1 overall pick and (also as of now) most assume that will be Sanders, since both teams desperately need a QB.
What were u expecting with the roster on the field yesterday?
If the Giants are competent at all (we all know they are not) they clean house and trade their pick. They are a dumpster fire with no OL outside of Andrew Thomas and bringing in a new QB will not fix any of their problems, they need to completely rebuilt the team first.
Clean house bring in
Deon and Shaduer
I'm done with the overturn every 3 years. Give these guy a chance to truly start over, although I'm not sure there is a franchse QB in this draft. If anything, do what Gettleman did not the year he took Jones: trade down. Also, go out and get a vet QB on 1-2 yr deal to keep the seat warm in 2025. I mean, I've grown used to losing, so why not another season?
Let us continue to blame Daniel Jones. If the rookie QB struggles next year, Daniel Jones will be blamed. The Big 2 saying bye-bye to the pro-bowl players and/or captains shall never be blamed for the terrible roster.
Giants could have had Lamar Jackson, but chose Daniel Jones 😂
So could everyone else in the league that needed a QB to be fair
@ but this is a Giants RUclips thread
They already made a blunder giving Daniel jones that contract . If they weren’t sold on him, don’t give him the contract. If the GM wanted him and Daboll didn’t, then that just shows dysfunction and lack of sync between the HC and GM. Do the giants have any confidence they’ll pick the right QB?
What a nightmare... the incompetent Joey the Genius blowing another draft.
Daboll gets way too much credit for Josh Allen because Josh Allen is still Josh Allen without Brian Daboll. And part of the Giants problem is Daboll's dog 💩 play calling.
NY draft Travis Hunter!! The Giants are not a QB away from winning and they can get a serviceable QB later in the draft. This line isn't protecting any QB in the immediate future.
Giants fans have been spoiled, honestly. They whine and cry like the Giants didnt win one superbowl in 4 consecutive decades. 2020s arent even half over, plenty of time to keep that streak.
Yes but too many abysmal years in between. That makes a difference
They’ve been losers since the Super Bowl. At least be competitive. They’re downright awful.
What I want to know is how John Mara will be able to justify keeping schoen and daboll especially after schoen has let this team's best players walk for nothing and passing on a qb in last year's draft. Joe schoen is incompetent and an arrogant moron. All you have to do is watch the hard knocks episodes from the off season to come to this conclusion. FIRE THEM ALL MR MARA AND NOW
I cannot stand Richs schtick.
Shadeur to Nabers is gonna be iconic
Sanders kid will be a bust.
Yep, he will be injured critical by end of year 2
No one can save this team as long as John Mara owns it.
If I were Sanders or Ward, I would refuse to play for this team.
Mara is the worst owner in the NFL because he refuses to get his own family out of the draft process.
And Joe Schoen has been a disaster as GM. How do you gut a team of all of its talent while getting in further salary cap hell?
Well prime said he would pull a eli behind scenes.. I do hope cam got some1 to speak for them
Great first Schoen and Daboll screw up Daniel Jones now they get to screw up the career of another kid
Travis Hunter, the number 6 receiver THIS YEAR? And not even in the top 100 receivers all time? And yes, he is a decent DB, playing an uninspired schedule. And as a DB, 8th in passes defended, 18th in interceptions. He is a very good player, but not a magnificent talent on either side of the ball. Jeanty also has a mediocre schedule, but he is the #1 rusher this year, and the #4 single season runner of all time. And it is probable that if Deion Sanders is not the coach, we hear very little about Hunter. I do hear that he is projected to go in the top 5 of the draft, but I have doubts that he will be all that in the NFL. Will revisit in a year, and will either crow or eat crow on this post.
Travis Hunter isn't even Desmond Howard and Howard was a bust. Hunter is more like a Peter Warrick.
Daboll and Schoen suck and deserve to get canned.
Everyone should get fired. No one should be safe. This is the worst I've seen this team. They're straight garbage.
Hey hey ho ho GM Joe has got to go.
ravens are pretenders, not going to the ball. sorry.
In 2022, it was Gentleman's players, Wink dialing up the D, Barkley's running and Kafka calling the plays. Since that time, it's a dumpster fire. They could've drafted a QB and the players they did draft, the track record is not good. Daboll's mishandled the staff and it's terrible.
2022 record (9-7-1 and 4-7-1 Conf) beat a terrible Viking team and smoked by Eagles in Playoffs
2023 record (6-11 and 5-7 Conf) - no post season. Forced Wink out and let #26 leave
2024 record (2-12, 0-8 at home and 0-5 Conf) - eliminated from post season on Thanksgiving
I’ve yet to see someone ranting that Schoen and Daboll have to go suggest who exactly the Giants are going to hire to replace them and how likely is it that that candidate or those candidates want the job?