The card is healthy in a vacuum where everyone has access to it but that just isn’t the reality and not enough content creators are willing to speak about that because they themselves have access to the card so it’s not an issue that affects them
This ! ^ i also told this in my friend group. Should’ve been a super with the qcr possibility for people who want to pay more for the bling. Would have been an expensive super but accessibility would go up
I’m pretty sure you missed all of the times content creators address the matter of cost and prices. Even when we do have access to certain cards. But think about it, many competitive players are gonna invest into expensive cards cause they want to play competitively, have that edge and are going to actually attend multiple events as well. Invest into a card if you know it’s gonna be worth it. If not, you can still proxy for casual matches or play on Duelingbook. Card design of Charmies is healthy imo. And that’s what the video is about, nothing more.
@shadowrabbitygo most content creators don’t talk about it aside from a brief “the only unfair part about x is the price but that’s a different discussion” followed by them never addressing the issue again. I’m not demonizing anyone who chooses to buy the card(s) - if you have the money and want/need to buy them then more power to you. I’m just saying that for the vast majority of people playing it creates a frustrating dynamic where you have to pass the “are you poor” check to play the game
@@ascalone3894 which I completely understand and dislike about the matter but what frustrates me is trying to have an interesting discussion about card design and people seeing only the price. I’ve talked a lot about those issues and potential solutions in my videos about the game dying out.
They might be healthy if they were commons. Realistically they could be healthy on the metagame at the highest level, but they're going to end up causing a lot of players to leave the game due to the price.
@@ItSpooling_ crossout forces you to run the same cards, which i feel can be harsh on deck space and makes decks generic. I think we are in a state where multiple called-bys wouldn't be too OP.
I disagree mostly from the standpoint that any format where all decks are “required” to play X card or are at a severe disadvantage not good for the game.
I agree that are necessary for the game also dominance impulse as well I feel only a handful of decks can utilize them...... Good insight and thank you for being honest alot of tubers say the same stuff without context... Fire video Cheers....
I don’t think the Dominus cards should’ve had those restrictions because now the decks that can play them will be at an advantage, for example snake eyes and tenpai are already strong and now stronger because of impulse
I agree that theyre overall pretty fair/balanced cards, and definitely help going second whether that be slowing down turn 0, or giving you a chance to have enough cards to deal with an oppressive ass end board. And in all honesty i think playing around one or the other is manageable, i start to struggle when they open one of each...i guess i think its a little over the top that you can activate two of them in a turn anyway lol but the pros by far outweigh that single complaint.
I think we’ll get a FIRE Mulcharmy in Alliance Insight, and it will draw a card each time your opponent adds a card from the Deck to their hand. I think that will be the last one though.
I highly doubt it because it doesn't cover a Special Summon location, the only location that it's missing is from the S/T zone to the Monster Zone. You basically killed Droll with your custom card lol
@chimeratcg07 oh ya, I keep forgetting about the S/T and Pendulum Zones, the latter of which being a once in a blue moon situation but still needing to be included.
I completely disagree with the second point. In oder for these cards to be healthy, there needs to be less direct outs. How can it check the things it is supposed to check if they can just jam in an enough number of outs? That's the mini game we do not want. What we need are NOT outs like dumb cards like Called By but more viable plan B plays. IP pass. Rabbit pass. 2 specials for 2 interruptions and the like. Decks that can't live with with making moderate boards but only want to make FTK boards should be punished. That's the whole idea.
Well they fix nothing, the entire situation is just draw the out. They are just another out that if you don't draw them well suck for you. All the maxx c minigame is just a toxic mechanic of the ocg game that we don't need. We needed deck to be less explosive and endboard more easy to break with your deck engine not solutions to to problems that shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Me talking about why the card is healthy from the perspective of game design has nothing to do with the price of the card. Charmies are in fact healthy for Yu-Gi-Oh!. Yes, they cost a lot of money. But the design of the cards would be good even if the price was $5.
@@Lmaocario yup I’d actually love for u to say something or make a point cause this reply makes 0 sense lmao, I feel like it’s literally impossible to discuss this topic with people unfortunately and ur comment and reply just prove it
@@shadowrabbitygo Wtf? Bro i was talking about the title. That sentence is the title. The title says its healthy for yugioh not for the game design and no its not healthy for the whole of yugioh because its basicaly just: "Hey, you can play a more balanced game but you have to spend 400$ more no matter what deck you wanna play." And thats not good game design its just scamming the fans. Btw good how you didnt even seem to understand my point because it would be insanely great if that card would cost 5$ because that would make a balanced game achievable for everyone
@@Lmaocario yup it would be great but my title is worded that way for a reason, it’s a title for a yt video lmao, the fact you’re actually nitpicking is cringe when clearly it’s just a title and I do talk about game design, what would be a better title lol . Game design has nothing to do with the price when u can literally jump on rated with 3 Charmies in main and experience a more balanced game. Like .. what? Yugioh is Yugioh. You don’t have to buy cards to play the game or discuss how healthy it is. It’s a completely different topic, which I do go into in some of my other videos, along with ideas for how it could be improved but people seem to forget u can play this game just for what it is. Cause I definitely don’t encourage u to buy Charmies for a locals experience twice a month. But u can still partake in a discussion about the health of the game and game design.
Imo the Mulcharmies aint even that opressive. Out of 10 games, they have won maybe 2 according to my experience. I also believe these are pure Side Deck cards. Playing them in Main aint worth it. Everyone is prepared for them, some decks dont even care about them. You can use these slots better in your Main Deck
Same. In the majority of games i've played, fuwaross was rarely a deciding factor. If anything, generic boardbreakers and 1 card combos have been a bigger issue for me.
@@realpatriot1769 By now, Im not even sure anymore if theyre good side deck cards. You only benefit from them if you draw into further handtraps. But since everyone can counter these cards or play around anyway, you mostly end up with less cards in hand and your opponment can still play while you have no handtraps or board breakers. There are so many good cards you could play instad that would help you right away, I really struggle with the Mulcharmies... but not the way I thought I would :P
I think if everyone at every locals was playing competitive and all had access to mulcharmys I would be more likely to agree. Unfortunately not everyone is capable of affording, let alone playing Diabellstar lore turbo (snake-eye azamina) or any other pick of fiendsmith splashed meta contender. While I think Mulcharmys are more balanced than Maxx "C" but a more balanced Maxx "C" still doesn't seem healthy for the game to me, especially when there's people who can't afford it and/or have to get extremely lucky with packs. (the constant powercreeping every couple sets isn't healthy either, but that is a completely different can of worms) For example, as a Trickstar player, I actually have an advantage against both Purulia and Fuwalos on paper to the point if my opponent uses both I could possibly deck them out trying to reincarnation lock provided I don't just burn them out before they start their turn (this heavily relies on the new support) but that just on paper. In other words: theoretical provided everything goes right. The thing is, it never happens like that in any tournament. It's also not healthy for the game when you have locals so severely dominated by competitve players that what few more casual players at that locals can't even hope to do anything and eventually just give up on the game. I've reached that point and now the only way I even interact with the game is Edison format or videos on it, provided I interact at all, and I'm someone who somehow got into the game and stuck with it when Block Adamancipator existed. My first locals experience was getting overkilled by the likes of Scrap Orcust, Block Adamancipator, and Dino Bishbaalkin ftk. That last one continued to play and BM after I said "I scooped" several times. What was I playing? 3 Ice Barrier Structures and whatever handtraps and other staples I could scrounge from packs. The fact I sat through that somehow but only now am deciding to give up on the game is telling. Tl;Dr: in theory mulcharmys are healthy, but not in practice. Not with all the factors in play.
My one and only needed reason is "they are good going 2nd only ht". Sadly yugioh has not become more accessibile for... well those not willing to spend 1 or 200 dollars a month on average.
Then u go against Tenpai and u end on a half ass board then they OTK u on turn 2, i personally dont think they're not healthy for the game cuz it makes u play poorly and end on basically nothing cuz u dont want them to draw then get killed on the following turn regardless of what deck ur up against. This is just my opinion and im free to speak my mind but i do respect ur thoughts and reasons for why u think they're healthy, keep up the great work Nya❤️💯
Any generic card that gives free draw pwr for no cost isnt healthy for a format. It may be a more balanced version of Maxx C, but any version of Maxx C is toxic to the modern game. Watered down or no.
So “cant’t use if you control cards” is not watered down enough? How would the card then even see play? It has to actually do something. Cause how do you suggest the game gets slowed down then?
He completely missed your points and maybe didn't event watch the video. I completely agree with you and I was waiting for someone to have the "courage" to tell these ideas @@shadowrabbitygo
That’s super cringe. Yes, I make money with my job. You wouldn’t even comment on that if I worked in a random “normal” job. Everyone who chooses to spend on YuGiOh! does so cause they want to play competitively. Which is fine. But YuGiOh! as a *game* not the competitive meta game doesn’t cost much if u want to either play with friends, play retro formats or grind Master Duel. And me even having to explain that to you is silly. The card design on Charmies is good. That’s what the point of this video is, in case you missed it. That has nothing to do with how much they cost. Zero. It’s just sad you’re incapable of having a decent human conversation about a topic because it incidentally includes money.
@@ilgattoyuumi sorry, I know you’re trying to be funny and mean but it’s not working. You’re just further proving u’re a cringer who can’t hold a discussion.
1. Cards as a counter play doesn't mean the card is an issue. Lavalval Chain, Beatrice, Shock Master, VFD, I can go on would be fine with that logic 2. If Konami would design their game correctly they wouldn't have to make a card like Mulcharmy. 3. Lingering effect have been shown to be extremely oppressive and players don't want them. Droll, Shifter, VFD, and more have been called to get banned. Your main point made the whole video full of bs because that logic there wouldn't be a banlist
If its so healthy for the game why cant every player access it. By making it overly expensive it just prices out so many players and further widens the gap between those who are willing to drop $450+ on 3 cards and those who arent. My locals shrunk from average 30 ppl per week to 10 ever since the card came out. Nobody wants to play against it
I don't know, sometimes feel they healthy sometimes feel they not, sometimes feel they crab and sometimes overpowered, But in either cases yes they a lot weaker than max c I think, because of the first point you make
Yeah i agree. People are overreacting to them. They are all significantly weaker than maxx C and only work going second. I think having called by at 2 or 3 would make it less of problem, in addition to other outs like ash blossom.
The card is healthy in a vacuum where everyone has access to it but that just isn’t the reality and not enough content creators are willing to speak about that because they themselves have access to the card so it’s not an issue that affects them
This ! ^ i also told this in my friend group. Should’ve been a super with the qcr possibility for people who want to pay more for the bling. Would have been an expensive super but accessibility would go up
I’m pretty sure you missed all of the times content creators address the matter of cost and prices. Even when we do have access to certain cards. But think about it, many competitive players are gonna invest into expensive cards cause they want to play competitively, have that edge and are going to actually attend multiple events as well. Invest into a card if you know it’s gonna be worth it. If not, you can still proxy for casual matches or play on Duelingbook. Card design of Charmies is healthy imo. And that’s what the video is about, nothing more.
@shadowrabbitygo most content creators don’t talk about it aside from a brief “the only unfair part about x is the price but that’s a different discussion” followed by them never addressing the issue again. I’m not demonizing anyone who chooses to buy the card(s) - if you have the money and want/need to buy them then more power to you. I’m just saying that for the vast majority of people playing it creates a frustrating dynamic where you have to pass the “are you poor” check to play the game
@@ascalone3894 which I completely understand and dislike about the matter but what frustrates me is trying to have an interesting discussion about card design and people seeing only the price. I’ve talked a lot about those issues and potential solutions in my videos about the game dying out.
@ I mean what can I say, hard to have a discussion about card design when half the playerbase can’t partake in the discussion in the first place 🤷🏾♂️
I think they're a net good designwise. I just wish cards like these were more financially accessible.
They might be healthy if they were commons. Realistically they could be healthy on the metagame at the highest level, but they're going to end up causing a lot of players to leave the game due to the price.
ShadowRabbitYGO is my favorite yugioh anime.
Get called by the grave at 2 and make mulcharmies easier/cheaper to get and we are talking a good state of the game
Draw 1 every search would be extremely broken... call by the grave needs to be at 2 ASAP
Called by is fine at 1, we have 3 crossout
@@ItSpooling_ crossout forces you to run the same cards, which i feel can be harsh on deck space and makes decks generic.
I think we are in a state where multiple called-bys wouldn't be too OP.
I disagree mostly from the standpoint that any format where all decks are “required” to play X card or are at a severe disadvantage not good for the game.
I agree that are necessary for the game also dominance impulse as well I feel only a handful of decks can utilize them...... Good insight and thank you for being honest alot of tubers say the same stuff without context... Fire video Cheers....
I don’t think the Dominus cards should’ve had those restrictions because now the decks that can play them will be at an advantage, for example snake eyes and tenpai are already strong and now stronger because of impulse
I agree that theyre overall pretty fair/balanced cards, and definitely help going second whether that be slowing down turn 0, or giving you a chance to have enough cards to deal with an oppressive ass end board. And in all honesty i think playing around one or the other is manageable, i start to struggle when they open one of each...i guess i think its a little over the top that you can activate two of them in a turn anyway lol but the pros by far outweigh that single complaint.
I think we’ll get a FIRE Mulcharmy in Alliance Insight, and it will draw a card each time your opponent adds a card from the Deck to their hand. I think that will be the last one though.
I highly doubt it because it doesn't cover a Special Summon location, the only location that it's missing is from the S/T zone to the Monster Zone. You basically killed Droll with your custom card lol
@chimeratcg07 oh ya, I keep forgetting about the S/T and Pendulum Zones, the latter of which being a once in a blue moon situation but still needing to be included.
@@elcalich33sehead Snake Eyes, Crystal Beast, Exodia summons from the S/T Zone.
@@chimeratcg07 and Odd-Eyes Meteorburst Dragon and Supreme King Dragon Lightwurm Summon from the Pend Zone.
I completely disagree with the second point. In oder for these cards to be healthy, there needs to be less direct outs.
How can it check the things it is supposed to check if they can just jam in an enough number of outs? That's the mini game we do not want.
What we need are NOT outs like dumb cards like Called By but more viable plan B plays. IP pass. Rabbit pass. 2 specials for 2 interruptions and the like. Decks that can't live with with making moderate boards but only want to make FTK boards should be punished. That's the whole idea.
Well they fix nothing, the entire situation is just draw the out.
They are just another out that if you don't draw them well suck for you.
All the maxx c minigame is just a toxic mechanic of the ocg game that we don't need.
We needed deck to be less explosive and endboard more easy to break with your deck engine not solutions to to problems that shouldn't have been there in the first place.
We need hand traps that activate field spells from the deck
I see the title and i do exactly know: everything youre going to say is irelevant as long as this card makes your deck 400$ more expensive
Me talking about why the card is healthy from the perspective of game design has nothing to do with the price of the card. Charmies are in fact healthy for Yu-Gi-Oh!. Yes, they cost a lot of money. But the design of the cards would be good even if the price was $5.
@@shadowrabbitygo "5 Main Reasons Why Mulcharmy Cards Are Healthy For Yu-Gi-Oh!" Do I have to say anything more?
@@Lmaocario yup I’d actually love for u to say something or make a point cause this reply makes 0 sense lmao, I feel like it’s literally impossible to discuss this topic with people unfortunately and ur comment and reply just prove it
@@shadowrabbitygo Wtf? Bro i was talking about the title. That sentence is the title. The title says its healthy for yugioh not for the game design and no its not healthy for the whole of yugioh because its basicaly just: "Hey, you can play a more balanced game but you have to spend 400$ more no matter what deck you wanna play." And thats not good game design its just scamming the fans. Btw good how you didnt even seem to understand my point because it would be insanely great if that card would cost 5$ because that would make a balanced game achievable for everyone
@@Lmaocario yup it would be great but my title is worded that way for a reason, it’s a title for a yt video lmao, the fact you’re actually nitpicking is cringe when clearly it’s just a title and I do talk about game design, what would be a better title lol . Game design has nothing to do with the price when u can literally jump on rated with 3 Charmies in main and experience a more balanced game. Like .. what? Yugioh is Yugioh. You don’t have to buy cards to play the game or discuss how healthy it is. It’s a completely different topic, which I do go into in some of my other videos, along with ideas for how it could be improved but people seem to forget u can play this game just for what it is. Cause I definitely don’t encourage u to buy Charmies for a locals experience twice a month. But u can still partake in a discussion about the health of the game and game design.
They are not healthy for the game. They are a band aid liked the other hand traps for a game so broken that it is barely playable
Shitties takes ever that all the bad players regurgitate
Imo the Mulcharmies aint even that opressive. Out of 10 games, they have won maybe 2 according to my experience. I also believe these are pure Side Deck cards. Playing them in Main aint worth it. Everyone is prepared for them, some decks dont even care about them. You can use these slots better in your Main Deck
Hm I’d still main Fuwa
Same. In the majority of games i've played, fuwaross was rarely a deciding factor.
If anything, generic boardbreakers and 1 card combos have been a bigger issue for me.
@@realpatriot1769 By now, Im not even sure anymore if theyre good side deck cards. You only benefit from them if you draw into further handtraps.
But since everyone can counter these cards or play around anyway, you mostly end up with less cards in hand and your opponment can still play while you have no handtraps or board breakers.
There are so many good cards you could play instad that would help you right away, I really struggle with the Mulcharmies... but not the way I thought I would :P
I think if everyone at every locals was playing competitive and all had access to mulcharmys I would be more likely to agree.
Unfortunately not everyone is capable of affording, let alone playing Diabellstar lore turbo (snake-eye azamina) or any other pick of fiendsmith splashed meta contender.
While I think Mulcharmys are more balanced than Maxx "C" but a more balanced Maxx "C" still doesn't seem healthy for the game to me, especially when there's people who can't afford it and/or have to get extremely lucky with packs. (the constant powercreeping every couple sets isn't healthy either, but that is a completely different can of worms)
For example, as a Trickstar player, I actually have an advantage against both Purulia and Fuwalos on paper to the point if my opponent uses both I could possibly deck them out trying to reincarnation lock provided I don't just burn them out before they start their turn (this heavily relies on the new support) but that just on paper. In other words: theoretical provided everything goes right. The thing is, it never happens like that in any tournament.
It's also not healthy for the game when you have locals so severely dominated by competitve players that what few more casual players at that locals can't even hope to do anything and eventually just give up on the game. I've reached that point and now the only way I even interact with the game is Edison format or videos on it, provided I interact at all, and I'm someone who somehow got into the game and stuck with it when Block Adamancipator existed. My first locals experience was getting overkilled by the likes of Scrap Orcust, Block Adamancipator, and Dino Bishbaalkin ftk. That last one continued to play and BM after I said "I scooped" several times. What was I playing? 3 Ice Barrier Structures and whatever handtraps and other staples I could scrounge from packs. The fact I sat through that somehow but only now am deciding to give up on the game is telling.
Tl;Dr: in theory mulcharmys are healthy, but not in practice. Not with all the factors in play.
My one and only needed reason is "they are good going 2nd only ht". Sadly yugioh has not become more accessibile for... well those not willing to spend 1 or 200 dollars a month on average.
Wait so are you cosplay OCG Lacrima or TCG Lacrima?
Valid points
Then u go against Tenpai and u end on a half ass board then they OTK u on turn 2, i personally dont think they're not healthy for the game cuz it makes u play poorly and end on basically nothing cuz u dont want them to draw then get killed on the following turn regardless of what deck ur up against. This is just my opinion and im free to speak my mind but i do respect ur thoughts and reasons for why u think they're healthy, keep up the great work Nya❤️💯
Any generic card that gives free draw pwr for no cost isnt healthy for a format. It may be a more balanced version of Maxx C, but any version of Maxx C is toxic to the modern game. Watered down or no.
So “cant’t use if you control cards” is not watered down enough? How would the card then even see play? It has to actually do something. Cause how do you suggest the game gets slowed down then?
He completely missed your points and maybe didn't event watch the video. I completely agree with you and I was waiting for someone to have the "courage" to tell these ideas @@shadowrabbitygo
What the heck happened at remote duel ycs lol
Superhealthy to slend a mortgage.
she also did another dumb comment like that, something like "yugioh isn't expensive!! only fans in bio"
That’s super cringe. Yes, I make money with my job. You wouldn’t even comment on that if I worked in a random “normal” job. Everyone who chooses to spend on YuGiOh! does so cause they want to play competitively. Which is fine. But YuGiOh! as a *game* not the competitive meta game doesn’t cost much if u want to either play with friends, play retro formats or grind Master Duel. And me even having to explain that to you is silly. The card design on Charmies is good. That’s what the point of this video is, in case you missed it. That has nothing to do with how much they cost. Zero. It’s just sad you’re incapable of having a decent human conversation about a topic because it incidentally includes money.
@shadowrabbitygo what level of sub is "pathetic answer"? 1 or 2?
@@ilgattoyuumi sorry, I know you’re trying to be funny and mean but it’s not working. You’re just further proving u’re a cringer who can’t hold a discussion.
@shadowrabbitygo yeah yeah im so unfunny that you had to block my comments 🤣
Buffoon
1. Cards as a counter play doesn't mean the card is an issue. Lavalval Chain, Beatrice, Shock Master, VFD, I can go on would be fine with that logic
2. If Konami would design their game correctly they wouldn't have to make a card like Mulcharmy.
3. Lingering effect have been shown to be extremely oppressive and players don't want them. Droll, Shifter, VFD, and more have been called to get banned.
Your main point made the whole video full of bs because that logic there wouldn't be a banlist
Cry more
Unban Maxx C
Great points
If its so healthy for the game why cant every player access it. By making it overly expensive it just prices out so many players and further widens the gap between those who are willing to drop $450+ on 3 cards and those who arent. My locals shrunk from average 30 ppl per week to 10 ever since the card came out. Nobody wants to play against it
U missed the point
I don't know, sometimes feel they healthy sometimes feel they not, sometimes feel they crab and sometimes overpowered,
But in either cases yes they a lot weaker than max c I think, because of the first point you make
Yeah i agree. People are overreacting to them. They are all significantly weaker than maxx C and only work going second.
I think having called by at 2 or 3 would make it less of problem, in addition to other outs like ash blossom.