The correlation you made between the halter and the d bit was an Aha moment for me! Thank you for the detailed explanation. In my early twenties I had the opportunity to work some young Arabians that had been donated to our church summer camp to sell. I rode them behind the trail riders with a rope tied to each side of the halter along with a bridle with the halter rope being the main rein in my hands for turning and stopping. It was a great learning experience for me!
Thanks for explaining. Good information. I like the fact that your D-ring snaffle bit has two different types of metal. The horses I ride (none of them are mine) wear eggbutt snaffle bits that have a mouth piece of stainless steel only
I use a D ring snaffle the same as the one you show. I had wondered about how I was going to progress from that, or whether like very many people in the UK to just stay in the snaffle. My horse has had around 60 rides ,so still quite green .But I will heed your advice ,because once a horse learns to carry himself properly he is going to enjoy being ridden and hopefully not suffer lameness .
I ordered the D ring snaffe using you link because I like the bushing/o-ring at the pivot points on either side of the bit but the one I received from Hilason did not have the bushing/o-rings. Nice bit just not exactly as you described. Thank you for all sharing everything you do! Love your videos
I'm sorry it wasn't like I described. They must have changed how they are making it because that is where I ordered the one I have. I'll have to do some research and change my link. Thanks for letting me know.
Question about snaffle bits. I always here that snaffle bits are for training young horses and like you said, for around 90 days or so. But, I see many riders using snaffles bits for the entire horses life. Why, if they are only for training and an experienced horse should be on a leverage bit. Now, the horses I am seeing are well seasoned trained horses.
That is the big disconnect between clinicians and trainers. Thousands of people go ride and watch clinics all over the country every year. All of these clinicians are telling these people to ride in a snaffle bit. They tell them that because most of them have terrible hands and green horses. Very few of those people ever further their or their horse's training past that point so they stay stuck there. Now if you go watch a trainer that competes in something thst requires advanced horse training they all get their horses out of a snaffle around that 90 day mark. When you are watching other videos or at live expos ask yourself, is this training for the rider or the horse. Clinicians train riders, trainers train horses.
Thank You Tim for sharing the info about these 2 bits. Tim do you ever use a curb bit like most Team Roper cowboys do? God Bless and Long Live Cowboys and Horsemen.
Curious how much you adjust your riding style in your hands when going from a snaffle which I’m sure you’re riding with two hands, to a curb (designed for one handed riding)?
Initially when switching to a leverage bit I still ride 2 handed and even later with a finished horse I will school 2 handed when necessary. Pressure is always as little as possible, as much as necessary, that never changes. I have several hundred videos posted, tell me if you see any difference in riding style with the 2 bits.
In had great results with a correction bit before different horse. This mares conformation or not of mouth seems to dislike leverage bits more have tried the lifter with ring in middle but really am confused. She response immediately at poll with leg contact but gets high headed to avoid bit when asked to trot i keep going back to snaffle because its easy for me. Maybe I just need to stick with it longer. I consider myself having good hands with good release of pressure.
She sounds very poll resistant. Just like a softening the corners of the mouth, I bet yours needs a lot of softening in the poll. You say she responds at the poll with leg contact, does her poll go right back up when you soften the leg contact?
Very soft laterally moves off of leg very easy. I have worked on building muscles in hind, stifle etc she lifts back good backs off of seat and spur but I am stalled at this point in moving to leverage so you are probably right poll resistant . I dont like to hold her in leg contact thats when i loose her.@@timandersonhorsetraining
The correlation you made between the halter and the d bit was an Aha moment for me! Thank you for the detailed explanation. In my early twenties I had the opportunity to work some young Arabians that had been donated to our church summer camp to sell. I rode them behind the trail riders with a rope tied to each side of the halter along with a bridle with the halter rope being the main rein in my hands for turning and stopping. It was a great learning experience for me!
Good morning guys, Ty Tim for video.😀
Thanks for explaining. Good information. I like the fact that your D-ring snaffle bit has two different types of metal. The horses I ride (none of them are mine) wear eggbutt snaffle bits that have a mouth piece of stainless steel only
I use a D ring snaffle the same as the one you show. I had wondered about how I was going to progress from that, or whether like very many people in the UK to just stay in the snaffle. My horse has had around 60 rides ,so still quite green .But I will heed your advice ,because once a horse learns to carry himself properly he is going to enjoy being ridden and hopefully not suffer lameness .
I ordered the D ring snaffe using you link because I like the bushing/o-ring at the pivot points on either side of the bit but the one I received from Hilason did not have the bushing/o-rings. Nice bit just not exactly as you described. Thank you for all sharing everything you do! Love your videos
I'm sorry it wasn't like I described. They must have changed how they are making it because that is where I ordered the one I have. I'll have to do some research and change my link. Thanks for letting me know.
great content, really helpful
Question about snaffle bits. I always here that snaffle bits are for training young horses and like you said, for around 90 days or so. But, I see many riders using snaffles bits for the entire horses life. Why, if they are only for training and an experienced horse should be on a leverage bit. Now, the horses I am seeing are well seasoned trained horses.
That is the big disconnect between clinicians and trainers. Thousands of people go ride and watch clinics all over the country every year. All of these clinicians are telling these people to ride in a snaffle bit. They tell them that because most of them have terrible hands and green horses. Very few of those people ever further their or their horse's training past that point so they stay stuck there. Now if you go watch a trainer that competes in something thst requires advanced horse training they all get their horses out of a snaffle around that 90 day mark. When you are watching other videos or at live expos ask yourself, is this training for the rider or the horse. Clinicians train riders, trainers train horses.
Thank You Tim for sharing the info about these 2 bits. Tim do you ever use a curb bit like most Team Roper cowboys do? God Bless and Long Live Cowboys and Horsemen.
I use several curb bits but the rules for the classes I show in are much stricter than the bit rules for team ropers.
Very informative.
I wonder, why are French Link snaffles prohibited in some classes?
Because French link bits are not part of a typical western bit progression.
Curious how much you adjust your riding style in your hands when going from a snaffle which I’m sure you’re riding with two hands, to a curb (designed for one handed riding)?
Initially when switching to a leverage bit I still ride 2 handed and even later with a finished horse I will school 2 handed when necessary. Pressure is always as little as possible, as much as necessary, that never changes. I have several hundred videos posted, tell me if you see any difference in riding style with the 2 bits.
@@timandersonhorsetraining I’ve probably watched them all and I have never noticed a major change. Thus why I asked. Thanks.
In had great results with a correction bit before different horse. This mares conformation or not of mouth seems to dislike leverage bits more have tried the lifter with ring in middle but really am confused. She response immediately at poll with leg contact but gets high headed to avoid bit when asked to trot i keep going back to snaffle because its easy for me. Maybe I just need to stick with it longer. I consider myself having good hands with good release of pressure.
She sounds very poll resistant. Just like a softening the corners of the mouth, I bet yours needs a lot of softening in the poll. You say she responds at the poll with leg contact, does her poll go right back up when you soften the leg contact?
Very soft laterally moves off of leg very easy. I have worked on building muscles in hind, stifle etc she lifts back good backs off of seat and spur but I am stalled at this point in moving to leverage so you are probably right poll resistant . I dont like to hold her in leg contact thats when i loose her.@@timandersonhorsetraining
she use to drop head like the mare you are working with
@@traceybumpus1007 used to but not anymore?
No I did fix that @@timandersonhorsetraining
Do you have your own horses
The only one that is mine is Mac, the rest are here in training.
@@timandersonhorsetraining so you don't show him is it a girl or a boy
@@jillianschneider7935 he has been in training, just started showing him. 5 year old gelding
@@timandersonhorsetraining how you show him when you training the other horses
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