I have 10 of the flame king 1 lb bottles, and I have their refill kit. Super easy and fast. Takes around 45 seconds to fill the bottle. Couldn’t be happier with the flame king bottles, and their refill kit. Totally worth the money.
Thanks for the scientific approach and the safety tips. Creative stand for the 20 lbs tank but if the kit is $30, my time is worth more than that. I'll buy the kit.
you should use the flame king refill kit with the flame king tanks it will give you more accurate fill keeping both tanks straight up and down. 20 lb being upside down.
What you really want is the 3 ft flexible refill hose with a shutoff valve. The flexibility of the hose makes it easy to get the 1lb bottle upright when filling and the shutoff valve controls the flow precisely. It makes this job easy peezy.
Excellent videoI have slot of these 1lb bottles. I used the fuel, then soda blasted the bottle, then I put 4 coats of etching primer then powder coated them with green enamel paint the printed a hazmat label for the bottle. I also bought brass caps to screw on each one. I did start buying Flame king refillable propane bottles. I only use bottles I have bought. Been I will not use a bottle I'm not 100% sure how it was treated. I test for leaks on every bottle. I have 22 bottles now. More then a year's worth of propane if used 2 times a day. 1 bottle will last on a stove about a month. If you use an oven the only last a few days, many times only a few hours. I have 2 20 pounders I use to refill them. I use 1 I get it refilled. Very cost effective. Even if propane go higher in price, I will still be able to pay for more. I don't throw $$ away. To hard to come by today as it was say 30 yrs ago.
Good video. Bulging tank was improperly filled (overfilled) and liquid expansion caused bulging. Any tank can get beat up like your example including flame kings. If you fill these properly - no more than 29.5-30 oz TOTAL weight using a scale) Chilling works great. Do not vent using OP valve only vent by using adaptor through main vent and store using brass caps. Finally just go get a new one after several fillings. Never had any issues. One comment the flame king relief tube has a length that corresponds to a vertical tank not one at 45 deg like you stand. Not sure how that affects the liquid level at vent time but it’s definitely not designed to a length for a 45° bottle
Hey you tell'em! Yah you DA how could you forget to do your research on the Flame King bottle.. Shaking my head and say DA. By the way the the first word of that abbreviation stands for "dumb". Hey you can figure out the last one.. I'm sorry I shouldn't be hating on you but I just couldn't help myself, nice video have a wonderful great day.
Never mind I took my apology back I just realized your video was almost 30 minutes to show how to fill a bottle. Hay over achiever you overdid it by 20 minutes. what a DS..
Great informative video. I’m just currently having trouble finding the bottles. Hopefully, this will change soon. I will likely refill my current bottles for home use.
Thanks for the useful information. It might make your job a little easier if you get an allen key with a screw driver type handle to operate the vent valve during filling. They are also available with ball ends that makes them less picky about angle when inserting into an allen set screw. Then you can do the final tightening with the conventional bent key when you have the bottle off of the tank adapter.
I have about 12 plus Coleman propane bottles that were given to me, and I’m pretty sure they are old, I’m having a lot of trouble using them with a brand new torch head. I’m not sure if the torch head is junk or something is wrong with the bottles, also the bottles feel full and heavy! Also I want to buy this product for myself, thanks for the review!
The safety part is actually the most important part of the video for people who never did propane filling training. 1. If using non refillable bottles, first check for any damages, wear, and tear. If in doubt, throw it away. 2. A way for the air pressure to escape is critical. Otherwise, injury and/or explosion may occur. 3. It is worth the extra expense to invest in a face shield and rubber glove due to the very cold temperature of the propane, which may harm your skin and eyes.
I got my recharge peace made from a hose and the two screw on fittings have been crimped on . I had no idea to bleed the air pressure out . Great video thanks for the info . I always wondered how would any one know if you refilled the small tanks? Propane is propane right ? One would have to get caught actually doing it ! I do it so I don’t have to buy the ones for running a hand held torch . They stay in the garage and I just use them around the house . I’ve got tanks from the 70’s that look as good now as they did back then . But I don’t take them in a vehicle any were . Just carried around the house for heating and soldering purposes! Thanks
I am planning to switch over to Flame King bottles. What I don't know is whether or not I can use standard refill adapters to refill the Flame King bottle. Does anyone have that info?
That's an awkward method for filling the tanks. A 90 degree adapter is the way to go so that way both the feed bottle and the empty bottle are both vertical. I'm buying the Flame King kit to make life easier.
Excellent video! I really learned a lot. QUESTION: Will the "rental shop" fill up the refillable 1 lb bottles if I don't want to do it? Thanks for your help.
Mine wouldn't do it ..get a 20 lb tank and the kit ... If you are an avid outdoors person the money you save will cover it ... I have a buddy heater for my garage where I train and in the winter it is darn cold out there got these after my disposable tanks kicked as I would use two of those after several days faster if I crank the heater to max vs leaving it in low... Point is these are worth it and their refill kit is also worth the investment and you don't have to worry about the cheap adapter losing it's cap and spraying your freshly filled tanks propane everywhere as I seen reviews from people about that occurring so yeah no thanks... Once you do all this a few times you won't bat an eye at it
I have a couple small, green, one pound disposable bottles. I would like to do the reverse procedure (empting the green bottles into an empty, standard 14 LB tank). These small, green bottles have some rust on them and I want to discard them after they have been emptied (no safety lectures please). Can this reverse procedure be done?
I have a Mr. Buddy heater that takes two, one pound cylinders. I just bought two large tank adapters and use it with 20 pound tanks. Voila! No more one pound tanks.
Yes, but you can't bring the barbecue tanks indoors safely, so that means you have to use them on the first floor only. You have to run a hose out the cracked window. It might be nice to bring a 1-pounder up onto the upper floor to run it in a bedroom. I still crack the window.
Why don't you refill it correctly? They sell 90 degree fill adapters for $14. The bottles have a dip tube and will fill to the correct level every time when filled vertically.
Doing it for years without a problem and without liquid propane spewing out everywhere. I honestly see no benefit using this. I have crossed just about every state line with refilled bottles and never had a problem. FYI never mess with the scharder valve.
Dude, both cylinders need to be vertical. You can buy just the flame king refill valve for 29 bucks. With tanks at a 45 degree angle you will never get all the liquid from 20 lb tank and never fill the little tank to 80 percent.
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1. Use different gloves. Your gloves would have your hands burned if in contact with liquid. Should an event happen, you want to be able to flick your gloves off. Look into rubber chemical gloves. 2. There should be no air in the tank...at all. Liquid propane/propane vapors. 3. Companies apply the plastic sleeve as it has all of the needed information that has been approved by their legal teams. Many companies, such as mine, require them to be removed with a decal put in place. Again, the decala have all the required information. 4. Look into the all too many accidents caused by these. Not worth the liability, in my opinion. Example : Everett, Washington propane death ruclips.net/video/g2_GhyAw3vM/видео.html
I got told today that Australia doesn't allow such refillable canisters? Does anyone know different? Maybe they think it's a good idea to fill the landfills of Australia with single-use gas canisters? Pretty pathetic
From what I've heard, California is drafting legislation to ban the disposables. So that's interesting. One or the other may be banned just depending on where you are.
Dude, get a wrench and tight the adaptor on the tank first. Then hand screw on the tank to the adaptor! Right there is where I stopped paying attention to your video. You should know basics!
One mistake you're making is that you haven't got a base that's earthed properly. Whatever you said in your LPG should not be insulatorable. Do not give the incorrect instructions on something that's highly dangerous. That igniter for the propane torch is useless after a few rounds trying to heat the cold beads it gets destroyed you need it back a proper more expensive attachment or otherwise just use a hand igniter but you need to heat it from the top order that fills up with soot and doesn't work after a while or gets destroyed.
I gave you a thumbs down because you’re doing everything wrong and anybody thinking that the disposable bottles are hazardous waste they’re not there they are steel they came from the ground
That's with the refilling apparatus and stand... Can't find a single refillable bottle very readily online. FlameKing must have cornered the market somehow...
@@matthewspry4217 You nailed it. If they wanted to scare you away from refilling, I would think that they would actually give you an example the 1lb bottle causing the problem. Probably another example of lobbyist owning congress.
@@matthewspry4217 and? There is a huge risk with this. The tanks are thinner and designed for single use... It's not just a tactic to take your hard earned money. For fucks sake.... You're the type that would last all but 3 days if we just removed all the safety labels off of everything.
Your video is more informative than the other's I watched. Thank you so much!
I agree, excellent presentation.
I have 10 of the flame king 1 lb bottles, and I have their refill kit. Super easy and fast. Takes around 45 seconds to fill the bottle. Couldn’t be happier with the flame king bottles, and their refill kit. Totally worth the money.
Very informative and detailed instructional video. Thanks.
Thanks for the scientific approach and the safety tips.
Creative stand for the 20 lbs tank but if the kit is $30, my time is worth more than that. I'll buy the kit.
you should use the flame king refill kit with the flame king tanks it will give you more accurate fill keeping both tanks straight up and down. 20 lb being upside down.
keeps them vertical and the refill device should have a valve for safety.
What you really want is the 3 ft flexible refill hose with a shutoff valve. The flexibility of the hose makes it easy to get the 1lb bottle upright when filling and the shutoff valve controls the flow precisely. It makes this job easy peezy.
There's lots of waist that way, that's why it's short.
@@keithh.2624 You're right. I dumped the hose and got a $10 angle adapter with shutoff valve. Work's much better.
First the hose is not that flexible and yet the propane in the hose is more waiste than just the adapter.
Lot simpler if you just by the kit
Excellent videoI have slot of these 1lb bottles. I used the fuel, then soda blasted the bottle, then I put 4 coats of etching primer then powder coated them with green enamel paint the printed a hazmat label for the bottle. I also bought brass caps to screw on each one.
I did start buying Flame king refillable propane bottles.
I only use bottles I have bought. Been I will not use a bottle I'm not 100% sure how it was treated. I test for leaks on every bottle.
I have 22 bottles now.
More then a year's worth of propane if used 2 times a day. 1 bottle will last on a stove about a month. If you use an oven the only last a few days, many times only a few hours. I have 2 20 pounders I use to refill them. I use 1 I get it refilled. Very cost effective. Even if propane go higher in price, I will still be able to pay for more. I don't throw $$ away. To hard to come by today as it was say 30 yrs ago.
Superb video. I certainly learned a money saving technique today. Chris, all the best and Happy Halloween!!
Good video. Bulging tank was improperly filled (overfilled) and liquid expansion caused bulging. Any tank can get beat up like your example including flame kings. If you fill these properly - no more than 29.5-30 oz TOTAL weight using a scale) Chilling works great. Do not vent using OP valve only vent by using adaptor through main vent and store using brass caps. Finally just go get a new one after several fillings. Never had any issues.
One comment the flame king relief tube has a length that corresponds to a vertical tank not one at 45 deg like you stand. Not sure how that affects the liquid level at vent time but it’s definitely not designed to a length for a 45° bottle
Hey you tell'em!
Yah you DA how could you forget to do your research on the Flame King bottle.. Shaking my head and say DA. By the way the the first word of that abbreviation stands for "dumb". Hey you can figure out the last one.. I'm sorry I shouldn't be hating on you but I just couldn't help myself, nice video have a wonderful great day.
Never mind I took my apology back I just realized your video was almost 30 minutes to show how to fill a bottle. Hay over achiever you overdid it by 20 minutes. what a DS..
Actually, left-hand threads have been a standard thread for flammable gasses for many years.
Great informative video. I’m just currently having trouble finding the bottles. Hopefully, this will change soon. I will likely refill my current bottles for home use.
If these are dot39 tanks don't even risk it
Thanks for the useful information. It might make your job a little easier if you get an allen key with a screw driver type handle to operate the vent valve during filling. They are also available with ball ends that makes them less picky about angle when inserting into an allen set screw. Then you can do the final tightening with the conventional bent key when you have the bottle off of the tank adapter.
I was thinking along the same. The faster you react once the propane comes out, the less waste. Regular Allen key doesn't cut it.
Please check and see if flame king bottle hold more than exactly 1 lb when filled.
They are designed to let you know when they are 80% full. It has a bleed valve.
I love your video. This one is very informative. Thank you for the details.
I have about 12 plus Coleman propane bottles that were given to me, and I’m pretty sure they are old, I’m having a lot of trouble using them with a brand new torch head. I’m not sure if the torch head is junk or something is wrong with the bottles, also the bottles feel full and heavy! Also I want to buy this product for myself, thanks for the review!
Great info and details. Safely and informative
The safety part is actually the most important part of the video for people who never did propane filling training.
1. If using non refillable bottles, first check for any damages, wear, and tear. If in doubt, throw it away.
2. A way for the air pressure to escape is critical. Otherwise, injury and/or explosion may occur.
3. It is worth the extra expense to invest in a face shield and rubber glove due to the very cold temperature of the propane, which may harm your skin and eyes.
I got my recharge peace made from a hose and the two screw on fittings have been crimped on . I had no idea to bleed the air pressure out . Great video thanks for the info . I always wondered how would any one know if you refilled the small tanks? Propane is propane right ? One would have to get caught actually doing it ! I do it so I don’t have to buy the ones for running a hand held torch . They stay in the garage and I just use them around the house . I’ve got tanks from the 70’s that look as good now as they did back then . But I don’t take them in a vehicle any were . Just carried around the house for heating and soldering purposes! Thanks
Great video, I always feel bad about disposing of the non-refillable tanks.
Hi Keith, yeah me too. These bottles have been working great for me. I have probably saved 15 bottles so far.
Nobody will know that you refilled the bottles, unless you tell them lol
Great video, one of the most detailed I’ve seen. Next do one where you power wash your fence, lol
Excellent video, very informative.
Very intelligent analysis of propane bottle refilling but a less than elegant solution to accomplish the task...
I am planning to switch over to Flame King bottles. What I don't know is whether or not I can use standard refill adapters to refill the Flame King bottle. Does anyone have that info?
Suggestion, I know inwould loose the Allen key, so I would tape to the key to the bottom.
That's an awkward method for filling the tanks. A 90 degree adapter is the way to go so that way both the feed bottle and the empty bottle are both vertical. I'm buying the Flame King kit to make life easier.
Thanks for your video buddy . So you dont really need the thank filler from them you can use the cheaper brand . Is that right .
Thank you for the video.
Nice job!
Can you please COMPARE THE NEW
" FUEL KEGG " REFILLABLE With The " FLAME KING " REFILLABLE ..Thank You 👍
Excellent video! I really learned a lot. QUESTION: Will the "rental shop" fill up the refillable 1 lb bottles if I don't want to do it? Thanks for your help.
They don't want to be bothered, not worth their time
Mine wouldn't do it ..get a 20 lb tank and the kit ... If you are an avid outdoors person the money you save will cover it ... I have a buddy heater for my garage where I train and in the winter it is darn cold out there got these after my disposable tanks kicked as I would use two of those after several days faster if I crank the heater to max vs leaving it in low...
Point is these are worth it and their refill kit is also worth the investment and you don't have to worry about the cheap adapter losing it's cap and spraying your freshly filled tanks propane everywhere as I seen reviews from people about that occurring so yeah no thanks... Once you do all this a few times you won't bat an eye at it
Thank you. That was a helpful.
2 or 3 in a trip?? that's one night per buddy heater 🤯 yes these flame king bottles are WELL worth the money I have 7
Great video!!!
I have a couple small, green, one pound disposable bottles. I would like to do the reverse procedure (empting the green bottles into an empty, standard 14 LB tank). These small, green bottles have some rust on them and I want to discard them after they have been emptied (no safety lectures please). Can this reverse procedure be done?
The bulged one may have been overfilled, or filled with a propane/butane mixture with more propane and higher vapor pressure than the original.
Don't understand how someone could tell if a cylinder has been re=filled.
I have a Mr. Buddy heater that takes two, one pound cylinders. I just bought two large tank adapters and use it with 20 pound tanks. Voila! No more one pound tanks.
Yes, but you can't bring the barbecue tanks indoors safely, so that means you have to use them on the first floor only. You have to run a hose out the cracked window.
It might be nice to bring a 1-pounder up onto the upper floor to run it in a bedroom. I still crack the window.
@@s13rr4buf3 I use it indoors all the time. Test your fittings. Mine have never leaked yet.
If they’re labeled refillable wouldn’t a company that refills grill tanks fill them as well?
Why don't you refill it correctly? They sell 90 degree fill adapters for $14. The bottles have a dip tube and will fill to the correct level every time when filled vertically.
how long do these bottles last? Great video thanks for doing this fo us.
About 3 1/2 hrs on average. 😊
This seems more of a push ad for Flame King!
Refillable are $50 on Amazon for the refill kit and $85 plus tax for just 4 refillable canisters/tanks.
Good info. Please edit 29 min. down to about 6-8 min. The excessive repetitive chatter is annoying. A link to the refills would be nice.
I've been watching these videos solely for the purpose of getting the name of that damn valve.
Yeah, that nervous chatter is downright annoying.
Give me some of them I also have the hose goes from the big propane tanks to the appliance
Dont let the goverment run your life.
Ahhhhhh ummm. Ahhhhhh. Ummmmmm. Gasp gasp gasp. Dude!
Doing it for years without a problem and without liquid propane spewing out everywhere. I honestly see no benefit using this. I have crossed just about every state line with refilled bottles and never had a problem. FYI never mess with the scharder valve.
Dude, both cylinders need to be vertical. You can buy just the flame king refill valve for 29 bucks. With tanks at a 45 degree angle you will never get all the liquid from 20 lb tank and never fill the little tank to 80 percent.
do u know how dangerous this is
Yes, there is an epidemic of exploding refilled 1 pound propane bottles. Really? You can buy these little guys? Where might you find them now?
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1. Use different gloves. Your gloves would have your hands burned if in contact with liquid. Should an event happen, you want to be able to flick your gloves off. Look into rubber chemical gloves.
2. There should be no air in the tank...at all. Liquid propane/propane vapors.
3. Companies apply the plastic sleeve as it has all of the needed information that has been approved by their legal teams.
Many companies, such as mine, require them to be removed with a decal put in place. Again, the decala have all the required information.
4. Look into the all too many accidents caused by these. Not worth the liability, in my opinion.
Example : Everett, Washington propane death
ruclips.net/video/g2_GhyAw3vM/видео.html
I got told today that Australia doesn't allow such refillable canisters? Does anyone know different? Maybe they think it's a good idea to fill the landfills of Australia with single-use gas canisters? Pretty pathetic
And Canada doesn't allow any of this stuff.
From what I've heard, California is drafting legislation to ban the disposables.
So that's interesting. One or the other may be banned just depending on where you are.
You should use pounds instead of metrics !
Dude, get a wrench and tight the adaptor on the tank first. Then hand screw on the tank to the adaptor! Right there is where I stopped paying attention to your video. You should know basics!
20% of the air space must be maintained over the propane liquid. I don't think that his wooden stand makes that possible.
You are doing this wrong. You need to get the filler valve from Flame King. The refillable tank needs to be upright.
So I'm gonna just keep buying the new 5 dollars bottles of fuel.
I "gasp" can "gasp" tell "gasp" you "gasp" all "gasp" you "gasp" need "gasp" to "gasp" know!
Information is accurate, but the video is too long and too wordy. Thanks for the effort...
One mistake you're making is that you haven't got a base that's earthed properly. Whatever you said in your LPG should not be insulatorable. Do not give the incorrect instructions on something that's highly dangerous.
That igniter for the propane torch is useless after a few rounds trying to heat the cold beads it gets destroyed you need it back a proper more expensive attachment or otherwise just use a hand igniter but you need to heat it from the top order that fills up with soot and doesn't work after a while or gets destroyed.
With that much info you just created a nuclear bomb wow what’s next
Stop taking speed before doing a video and slow down so we are not hearing all the gasping for air!
I gave you a thumbs down because you’re doing everything wrong and anybody thinking that the disposable bottles are hazardous waste they’re not there they are steel they came from the ground
$15 !! Those bottles are $55 each in 2022 !!!
waste money
That's with the refilling apparatus and stand... Can't find a single refillable bottle very readily online. FlameKing must have cornered the market somehow...
They are $34 for a two pack now on Amazon
A must watch RUclips video: Stop! Never refill 1 lb propane bottles.
Yes it was the 20lb with the adaptor that was leaking not the 1lb that caused the fire 🔥 🤣🤣🤣
@@matthewspry4217 You nailed it. If they wanted to scare you away from refilling, I would think that they would actually give you an example the 1lb bottle causing the problem. Probably another example of lobbyist owning congress.
@@matthewspry4217 and? There is a huge risk with this. The tanks are thinner and designed for single use... It's not just a tactic to take your hard earned money. For fucks sake.... You're the type that would last all but 3 days if we just removed all the safety labels off of everything.
Good info, but long winded. Could of said all that in much less time, but hey it’s your video! Lol