Niall Ferguson in seminar at UATX: Cold War II
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
- Founding Trustee and professor Niall Ferguson gives a seminar on the ideological, geopolitical, and technological challenges free societies face today. Session recorded at UATX Live on the University of Austin campus in February 2024.
As a working-class lad from Newcastle UK these lectures are gold dust. What I'd give to be in that room learning with Niall. Thank you so much for sharing 👍
buy a book he's written. i'm sick of the bed feeder formats of facebook and RUclips
😂 you sure it is gold dust not shit crumbs? He is a propaganda figure
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@beezas - Top lad from Newcastle, don't you mean?
I don't understand these comments. Obviously his books are better at getting into the detail, but he's great at explaining complex things orally too. I'm also from a working-class background. I didn't know that I didn't know this stuff growing up and going to university and doing maths didn't help me realise that.
Propaganda is a cheap shot. Niall helps me make sense of the world. In disagreement and derision (I'm thinking Noam Chomskey) he's respectful. I've got a LOT of time for that.
This sort of belittling and effectively calling someone you don't know on RUclips a shill is not convincing anyone.
This is what universities are supposed to be like. 👍
I dream of studying geopolitics, law and philosophy, this is as close as I'll get. Thank you!!!!
I have to go searching for the author of the term "Mutually Assured Economic Destruction" very soon as it appears to be a phrase worth considering these days.
Sincerely humbled by your comment.
This is the second seminar I've watched from UATX and I'm struck by the fact that in both seminars people, both teacher and student, weren't afraid to say 'I don't know'! This is the essence of the pursuit of truth, acknowledging ignorance, but striving to discover factual truth in order to banish ignorance. Long live UATX!
Excellent topic coverage and academic approach by Niall, but I would emphasise the impressive contributions by these students as well! I look forward to following the university and its alumni’s progress.
Ferguson is brilliant. Great to see him find such bright, engaged students
I wish I was young enough to participate in such an amazing institution. But this gives me some hope for the future of the West. Thank you all!!
Very cool to share a tutorial like this! You don’t have see this online. Great for people who aren’t familiar with university settings and classes.
Very fortunate to have a top history professor who believes in truth and has convictions and principles share a tutorial of smart thinking people discussing very important issues and topics. This is education!
What a delight to be able to listen in on this discussion. I applaud the students for being willing to engage in the discussion, as it was being filmed. I hope to see more of these classes in the future. Such a lovely change to be able to hear ideas being presented and discussed.
What a delightful and thought-provoking seminar!
As an old man who was there during the cold war, having studied the history of the Soviet Union in the 1960's and continuing to love history, I must say that I just had a feast. What a marvelous discussion and example of good teaching this provides!
This is the top 5 highest value per minute video on RUclips. Wow!
Such lucky students
Everyone here is a lucky student
Bravo Professor Ferguson and your emerging critical thinkers! Thank you for inviting in the world!
this was a fabulous, thought provoking discussion. thank you.
It’s refreshing to see an actual history class, focusing on real and consequential items. The sad part comes when you realize they had to start an University from scratch to provide this once widely available opportunity. I get a survivor, catacomb-Christian era kind of vibe.
Niall's brilliance was expected.
The Students ' brilliance was refreshing as all.
This was truly an excellent discussion. Thank you for sharing.
Wonderful discussion! Thank you for sharing this.
Great discussion
Fantastic discussion. I hope for many more like it.
Amazing seminar, I wish my university experience had a session like this. A great example of excellence in education!
Well, well, well ...a group tutorial in which everyone is encouraged to participate without fear or favour, conducted by a tutor who teaches facts.
It reminds me of tutorials that i participated in over 50 years ago. Amongst my peers were Conservatives, Liberals, Socialists, and a Maoist.
We debated passionately but civily and remained friends. No one was "cancelled."
I wish Niall Ferguson and his fellows well. An admirable venture.
Please keep posting these discussions
What a great exchange between students and teacher.
I was in the USSR for 1 month in 1967 and 2 weeks in eastern Europe. I visited the USSR 4 times over the years. On the last trip, in 1973, Leningrad looked very much worse than in 1967. That was a mere 5 years.
Wow! Step aside Harvard and Stanford?
1:26:00 a fantastic point, and another great example of American exceptionalism
how cool to be in the 1st class at UA
Have to say those students seem very smart
Because they are engaged?
This is the best advertisement for the UATX project. More please. As for the central question, the culture in the west has been enervated by postmodernism. It has lost the will to fight. This will become evident when we slump over Taiwan. See UK and Suez for the cliff notes.
What a lovely way of teaching
Very well done led discussion!
This is the way!
1:42:15
"I think one could conceivably make the argument that I was wrong."
Model of humility.
A very fascinating lecture and discussions!
What every student wishes their classes were like.
Interesting that the students write notes in notebooks and not laptops.
It's one of UATX's stated policies that students shouldn't enter lectures with laptops or smartphones, so as not to record and publish lecturer's or student's comments, thus encouraging open discussion.
The problem to me is: during the Cold War, we had Communism universally perceived as an existential threat. It had taken half of Europe, China and was working its way into "post-colonial" countries across the world. Because of this major threat, the Left (every bit as rabid at heart as they are now) couldn't go as far as they wanted to domestically, because the vast majority of people in the West were obviously "anti-Communist". After the end of the Cold War, and the supposed end to the communist threat...there's no end to the extremes that the Left feel they can now fly off to, and the results show in our societies. Nobody's afraid of being checked for being "Red" or investigated under some McCarthy-esque hunt for "traitors" - being a traitor and denigrating Western cultures, peoples, ethics and history are all cool in today's society! Throw in unfettered immigration, legal and illegal, from non Judeo-Christian countries and cultures and you have a recipe for eventual cultural collapse and national downfall.
These students are so fortunate. And I am impressed by there focus and dialogue. More of this! This is the true Professor/Student dialogue we should be broadcasting to the country/world. Not the ideologically possessed shouting of radical morons.
This reminds me of seminars at Stanford in the late 60's & early 70's.
Kudos for touching on the greatest intelligence failure of modern history that no one, especially the intelligence community, anticipated the collapse of the Soviet Union . This would imply a structural intellectual rejection of this possibility which was at variance with reality which has not subsequently been widely discussed / analyzed . How we in retrospect collectively ignored the obvious is a subject ripe for analyses in order to avoid future repetition. Expansion of this topic with regards to potential structural blind spots in in US - China attitudes that might lead to such intelligence failures would be prescient.
Nice discussion. Quite a few mature students it seems too!
I can't define it. But having lived through one, it feels like we are in one. And the enemy seems faceless.
George Orwell's '1984' should be the first read, but the second book to read is 'Brave New World' by Audius Huxley.
Wow.. what a class.
Because America has two oceans and friendly countries as neighbors, its enemies have to get creative in direct action (Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Covid, TikTok) as well as use its ideals against it. Freedom of movement and freedom of speech, free markets of both products and ideas provide cover for bad actors to smuggle in ways to undermine American ideals.
It appears that the teacher is teaching and the students are learning and everyone is thinking...
Are you sure this is at a University???
in the 60's & 70's my classes at Stanford WERE like this
This is quite stunning. What a seminar! How do I enrol?
Do you count the German vs. British rivalry 1900 - 1914 as Cold War 0 ?
Absolutely fantastic for me !!!
(I do think it's nice being able to sit in on some of these discussions. Thank you.)
No. You and others are incorrect in my view. The Cold War was uniquely almost all-encompassing on nearly all fronts. To claim whatever this is, is clearly just another is to trivelize that era.
The USA's relationship with China is high economic competition in the same global system by many of the same means, and firm secondary motivations to either hold territorial political entities in place or have them altered, but just in the South-China Sea, not globally.
Even just this is all secondary.
Foe the USA the domestic front not only is, but must be the main front in the actual conflict important to the USA. Even more important to the USA even if China hypothetically dominated the South-China Sea. I say that with substantial understanding of what that would mean globally, economically, and geo-politically, in all it's negatives.
The main conflict and struggle for the USA is The Cold Civil War.
In every way domestic matters matter more to the USA overall then global affairs and competition. Unlike during THE Cold War, the emerging balancing act will increasingly be to firmly place global affairs after domestic priorities and struggle.
Accept this reality.
It's about the USA surviving and possibly coming to better know what it really is the legacy of and what it can yet truly be, VS seeking to reinforce the outwardly Liberal, universalist, materialist, agnostic espousing, post-national technology seeking Global World Order thats increasingly been around since WWII, and thrown into absurd arrogant hyperdrive following the end of The Cold War.
Which do you think more people, whether they really know it to various different and comparative degrees or not, genuinely feel more concern for?
Neal of all the books I have read pity of war is the ultimate 65000 flower of British youngsters in the battle of Somme unpardonable
Which one of Orwells letters were discussed in the beginning?
“You and the Atom Bomb”
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Where America is located determines close to all of human history. The US is a unique case. In all human history. But NOT because of the Constitution. Rather, because of a GEOGRAPHICAL position that differs fundamentally from the same for ANY other country. The size and geographical position of the US makes it a completely different KIND of power to ALL other powers.
Balls Lincoln and grant solved the problem that is why America is great
One thought of mine: if the atomic bomb created a semi-peaceful status quo were both sides feared that if used then the other side will use it as well then what will happen if both sides change that argument slightly and think that the other will never use their bomb (because of the fear of retaliation).
Couldnt this actually lead to an INCREASE in conflicts? I mean, we see this in the Ukraine-Russian war were many EU politicians argue: "No problem, we can escalate, Putin will never use his atomic weapons"
Greetings from Germany
Did they announce they were starting Cold War 1?
And no one blew a whistle to signal the end.
They are all sitting so close together
We’re going through a very Orwellian reality in Brazil.
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+ EUSSR
one detail that they missed was that the US maintains a nuclear first strike policy
Mr Ferguson can calm himself down as much as he likes that this war will be cold, and that (non-)reactive strategy of NATO will be enough, but without the readiness of making the war hot from NATO, you will get exactly that - the hot and maybe nuclear war.
We did not have a Lincoln and Grant
Perfidious Albion
Some never had to lick the black boot. Ferguson does not cause much focus, he is content to permit rambles. Guileless students.
China recently changed the child policy to 3, if I recall correctly.
I am surely missing something or am conditioned by tiktok to expect arguments, but was there much direct disagreement among the group here? Love the discussion and the points made, but not sure that the boundaries were revealed (at least to my coddled brain) between differing views. Well done for being open, sharing and agreeing to be filmed for this seminar.
they were just in denial of reality and patting each other on the back and sucking each other off.
I don’t know how many people in that classroom have been to China, if much of discussion is about China. Just like what professor experienced in East Germany.
Idk but not sure it matters that much - one can learn a massive amount about a place without ever living there or spending much time there. If that’s what you’re getting at anyway, maybe not. Niall said that he’s been there and had conversations with people in leadership positions so there is that.
Niall is a court liar for Kissinger and the Rothschilds. How can you trust a thing he says? @@WideAwakeHuman
@@WideAwakeHuman Niall Ferguson hasn't been to China in the last 10years, he was bitter about China, because he was sucking up to the Chinese, but Chinese did not saw value in him, and did not renew his contract in Beijing.
The containment should be this unscrupulous hegemonic power.
I don't think the Roman Empire degeneration vs the American degeneration analogy works. These are completely different geopolitical blocks.
The British Empire arbitrarily divided
As the French always said
I believe that China is the best example of a Totaltarian state that the world currently has. Unfortunately, I see the western world (including the USA) slipping into Totalitarianism and many parts of the western economies are actively pursuing this for economic reasons. It seems to me that Totaltarianism borrows from both capitalism and communism and creates the conditions for perpetual cold war around the world. However, if the world does slip into Totaltarianism it will be very homogenous world with few alternative systems upon which we can rely to compete and provide incentive for change...a very bleak future indeed and a recipy for stagnation. I believe that the democratic government system is at the apex of ruling government and has ideals worth fighting for. This is why we have an obligation to educate ourselves and discredit the woke theology that seems to be dragging us down that path.
We would have had a broken country
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Taiwan is not a Chinese nation. To That discussant who speaks at 1:08.
divine central authority unity with substantive human rights choice for international law overcome political government separation from God tell each person what to do
1:43:29 in what sense do "the Brits tolerate a much worse cancer rate"?
America is not a nation state but an empire with multi-national people. China is not a nation state but a nation empire.
Using War to frame the current global order and international relations as well as that in the near future, is actually itself a kind of conpiracy or more tactically decribed a strategic preparation from US to solve its own internal deadlock both ideaologically, monetarily and economically. Niall, one of the famous histrical writer who is also my favorite scholar, unfortunately, either dictated or out of the ambition to be the most influential liberal imperialist, emerged to be a academic proxy of the Anglo-Saxen regime.
Ps Poland is another country that uses its constitution from even earlier time!
Neal these guys don't understand We die
So everyone is getting out his crystal ball😂
He is good actor. He acts like a professor, but empty talk no content and no use at all.
Please enlighten us …
@@paulmaggs3212 his information about China is about 15years old, he hasn't been to China in the last 10years. He was a guest lecturer in Beijing, he wrote a book sucking up to the Chinese, but the Chinese did not renew his contract because they saw no value in his academic work. He was quite bitter about the experience.
China is now ahead of America in solar, battery, wind turbine, EV, telecommunications, global trading, infrastructure, biotech, public healthcare, public safety, public transportation, just to name a few. Also China filed more patents at WIPO than America 5years in a row, and out of world's top10 patent producers, four are Chinese company and only two are America.
Not cold war 11 but hot war 111
I think I need an answer to why UATX has ALREADY cancelled a lecturer based on viewpoint.
Interesting, please... Who have they cancelled? And for what reason?
The Chairman resigned - Marietta - after being told by the Dean that they have to get all events pre-approved for content and what not after some student protested.
Anyone that calls out Fauci's bioweapons program. @@MrStumpmeister
I'm actually not surprised. Everything in this session was highly ideological
@@OrwellsHousecat what does that mean?
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Chinese dude is the first to leave for a pee and snack.
Us grant
Orwell was kind of right and kind of wrong. Totalitarianism doesn't necessarily look like the Stalinism he feared. Read Augusto Del Noce for a better understanding of what happened in the West. Truth is, the Cold War was really 1984 (USSR) vs. Brave New World (America).
Thanks for the reference - I hadn't heard of that one.
1. Sheldon Wolin wrote about Inverted Totalitarianism, in reference to USA. Presumably he'd also include the same for the Empire's vassals. He's trapped in a left/right polarised view though, so when reading him I was struck by how reversed the roles are to reality - perhaps that's the only way to get published though.
2. Several accounts have claimed that Eric wrote 1984 not about USSR but about USA, and how puppeteers such as James Burnham, Walter Lippmann etc were managing the regime & peasants.
Why should I care whst you think?
Don't watch then
1:30:36 people immigrate to the US not because they love the US but coz of economic reasons. Alot is missing in these talks though on how the US/anglosaxxon countries still have a stronghold on internal growth of many countries.
A lot of Theorizing but where is the BEEF? N. Ferguson's first book THE PITY OF WAR was a revelation, but his other books were disappointing.
Hmmm . . . very few young women, don't you think?
Like india
The exoteric cold war was the surface political cold war between competing political eastern and western ideologies and economic systems. Mere Kabuki theatre to keep eyes focused on it and away from anything else, all appearance surface programmed actors on the world stage.
The esoteric cold war that was the real one is the stalemate between the owner (even their avatars in flesh remain unnamed) class of the general human "farm", namely the pro-human pro-natal transhumanist alien to human hybrid deep state ushering in the ideal "Kingdom of heaven" and "brotherhood of man" ideal leveraging the breakaway civilisation reverse engineered tech gained since original contact in the 1950s to help mankind become a multi planetary species and the anti-human anti-natal transhumanist alien to human hybrid deep state who want a continuation of the feudal system it once had through the taskmaster blueblood regal system of control since Sumeria who want to keep humanity bound here.
The hot phase in the exoteric cold war would be the use of nuclear weapons forever changing the surface of the earth and that of human civilisation.
The hot phase of the esoteric cold war would be the deployment of a mass neural wipe on all animal farm humans and an instant death command which would completely reset everything back to first phase matrix entrance Australopithecus afarensis phase 2.7mya. None would be able to stop it and it would be instant and none would be able to know any different since it would be a direct world mass neuro-wipe of any transference of consciousness in these upgraded ape vessels. The sim would completely shutdown and then restart from its original entry point of projection of consciousness potential again and redo the entire 2.7mya "again".
The stalemate continue even if it was partially weakened by probing Operation Highjump missions but there is a general consensus it seems from the UFOlogy literature coming out since 2012 that the "draco reptilians" who want transhuman mass nano-tech enslavement into their serf technofeudal farms have basically "won" and their vision is coming to pass now and nothing is going to stop it. What happened during Covid-19 kind of showed how much control they can now leverage at a moments notice combined with a standing army of billions of nano-tech implanted ready to neuromodulate (undetectable mind control) by stealth DEW systems to drive the desired zeitgeist and the mandatory vaccination orders under "national health security" legislation is now inevitable when the next round of squeezing comes for any remaining nationalists/conservatives with the combined political base the "Beast" has now acquired ready to use.
J6 was a psyop mind game to provoke the nationalists in their existential struggle into overextending thereby falling into the prepared rage bait trap that will set the foundation for the argument to clamp down on them under national security risks which is happening now. They are cornered now and being primed for their final defeat, the Beast system is merely toying with them keeping them alive for its own curiosity, it could crush them all out at any moment with the sheer level of its hard political and military domestic power but opts for the long game, iteration by iteration.
Bio-Tyranny is the future now. Its over for the surface world. The NWO won. Techno-feudal bio-slavery is now in play with injected patented mRNA genetic code in bodies which do not have prior patents to their genetic coding as to what is owned by them in their assumed sovereign bio-rights as a full constitutional being. By virtue of the fact the owners of the patents of the injected mRNA gene code can now claim ownership over its code and any copyright reproductions happening automatically, any person with injected patented nano-tech generated mRNA just completed a Faustian pact to "save their lives". Alongside this any genetic hereditary descendants can ALSO be claimed down the bloodline in the future thus ushering in a legally binding provable form of bio-slavery.
Project L.U.C.I.D real life version went live Dec 2020. You all had 12+ years of warnings but you all just ignored it as "conspiracy theories" and dismissed them without looking at the legal substance of the extent of what can now be used in times of emergencies of state to fully justify a totalitarian genetic hierarchy.
Discern accordingly.
Who are you and what are your sources?
That would telling and far far too easy and would be easily self-evident if you had also done the equivalent 15-20k hrs of research over the 12 years + and 100's of deliberately cognitively dissonant simulated thought experiments across what is available in the secular world and the religious con-spirituality world epistemic landscape.
Then look at all knowledge theory formulation processes known to man and all of of its themes, concepts ,ideas and memeplexes both subjectively and objectively rationally and irrationally and "figure it out yourself".
Really really delve into the tiniest scraps of themes/contexts/relevance of all conspiracy theory literature since 1940's and ask enough questions... because you don't have the luxury of it all being neatly bow tied by the "scientific community" or peer reviewed to determine the seriousness or danger of it all.
Convergent interests follow in exploiting inherent perverse incentive structures in built within human societal control systems, its just predatory "human nature" and thus conspiracies are par for the course when needs must and survival has to come first and other human domesticated normative morality concerns cattle stock concerns are trivial.
Therefore in such a limited sensory environment and information topology one must parse the most optimum worldview which has the least consequential effect for being wrong in all possible realities and wager accordingly and ensure you have the covered as many "hidden negatives" that could be in play outside of any empirical scientific peer reviewed investigative framework in any motivational pathing understanding why not to be entirely rational or irrational in any navigation attempt in this partial oblivion state.
All of the necessary themes and ideas and warning signs are in the above post for you to search up for yourself, you have until the mandatory vaccination orders go live and the mass arrests begin circa next pandemic outbreak then its lights out no more internet and the "re-education" will begin once in the camps. Chop Chop before the head chop.
The squeeze is building and about to hit another rung on the noose, the frog in the frying pan is about to pass the next double digit milestone temperature, can you "feel" it yet? :)
If you took any mRNA patented gene vaccine then the original comment is "not for your eyes", since you would be tagged, bagged and ready to be cooked by nuclear fire to serve up as a tasty loosh filled burnt offering to the owners of this "farm".
The same therefore with all the other billions of cattle stock humans who do not truly "Think" and parse and sim decision tree pathing potentials and consequential leveraged risk or really explore anything pertaining to the maintenance of actual "sovereignty" spherically in the "game of all sets of games".
My prison birth name roughly etymologically translates as "Bright shining, infamous, martyr witness, usurper/uprooter". My birth name confers my nominative deterministic epistemic impulse.
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My most recent insight that came last night after posting this comment and contemplating it further, was that the owners of the mRNA patented gene code, the "real" owners, do not legally now have to confer the same "life" (consciousness, worldview, likes and dislikes, motivations etc or even "brain data") as the host bodies had prior to their voluntary Faustian pact, nor do they need to justify that to other technofeudal lords who own the mRNA patented gene code which confers legal ownership of bio-machine human cattle stock.
This is because legally their lives were "saved" and since that life is now under ownership of those whom the host bodies gave it up too and in return gained a "new life" in such a way that can be proven now in overt legal bio-courts on the surface world.
This sets up a precedence never before in history that could not be done using older DNA technology, to then bring in a full genetic totalitarian hierarchical technofeudal serfdom system supporting the end game wider climate emergency based system being planned now but is not workable in the old world order of the international liberal world order in which 85% reduction in living standards in the west and carbon production output individually is able to be achieved and identified as the next highest value to uphold.
After all " you will own nothing and be happy" however one cannot be happy emotionally at a reduced living standard for themselves or their loved ones since it goes against the natural human selfish desire impulse to grow and expand and gain, only through advanced application of direct neuromodulation leveraging advances in brain/blood barrier override systems in nano-technology can this be achieved via stealth methods.
Therefore only the uninjected/unchipped i.e. those without patented mRNA gene coding voluntary injected into them would have any claim to their biological sovereign self-rights since they did not transfer them voluntarily.
Since we all be "disappeared" following failed "re-education" and exponential reduction of social deterministic value reaching to zero then in the negative preventing us from participating in any future fully digital economic centralised system, it won't be long until there won't be any "unclaimed" person on the surface world which is why the NWO already won.
It has simply far too much force power projection multipliers across the world and has the numbers in the billions, zeitgeist control of all of the moral manipulation arguments and the ideal conditions of maintaining the maximised positive vaccine psychology tied to the masses "slice of the pie of life" and direct egoic skin in the game bio-assets like children's "futures" tied to this "system" that it was never going to be stopped only partially disrupted.
The parents will the ones calling for us to be "disappeared" and vote in the majority to have us be punished for ever being " threat" to the national health security of the "system" they hope their children will grow up and continue their own legacy.
Every parent is breakable, every parent attached to their children's "future" has a biological impulse to confer and protect and preserve their egoic legacy and where enough pressure is applied in leverage then they all break sooner or later rather than suffer bio-loss on Socratic principle. @@danimal2659
If you want to listen to a geopolitical analyst who has a great track record on his predictions, unlike Neil, listen to Peter Zeihan.
Nice humble brag at 47 mins.
No body can loose men
I listened to the first half of the discussion and it was very apparent to me of the political leanings of the Prof. Ferguson. The Univ of Austin was supposed to be apolitical where students could study without being subjected to the liberal influences that pervade most universities (or so it's claimed by Prof Ferguson). What I heard in the hour that I listened was discussion about how George Orwell was wrong about certain things and about how Clinton and Obama were wrong about China. Of course, he had nothing but praise for Henry Kissinger who was a war criminal by all accounts. I guess that I'm not surprised by what I heard. I'm sure that the majority of students (white males) that attend the Univ of Austin have a Republican bias and feel quite at home.
touché