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The Cruel Death of Mana

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  • Опубликовано: 21 апр 2020
  • the fall of mana... unless?
    Part one of this series: • The Birth of Secret of...
    I love Legend of Mana to death, I was probably too fair to Dawn of Mana, and I don't have time for wasteful DS titles, in summation. I wish Seiken Densetsu got treated like a flagship franchise, so Square would devote the resources necessary to carry it somewhere better. For now, it's kind of a fading B-tier series, if that, and the most memory the Western gaming collective-conscious can muster about it is the original. Didn't have to be like that.
    *Sword of Mana isn't addressed properly here. Originally I intended to do a "Rebirth of Mana" video showing off the remakes specifically, but like with Age of Empires I'd be stretching the audience real thin for no real reason. Maybe another day. Game's neat, though - looks great.
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Комментарии • 537

  • @thelonesage3146
    @thelonesage3146 4 года назад +313

    I wish they gave legend of mana some love man.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 4 года назад +23

      yeah Legend should've been in collection of mana. I would've bought in a heartbeat. I live for the defensive lunge, helpful for real life best skill ever from this game :) stops 4:46 coming on too strong lol but yeah a 2nd collection would be great, legend, dawn (10:46 I guess final fantasy crystal chronicles the crystal bearer spoiled with those punt controls), heroes, sword and children of mana.

    • @legefy
      @legefy 4 года назад +10

      Legend of Mana was a really weird game but I actually loved my time with it. I still couldn't explain why other than liking the art and music though.

    • @trymv1578
      @trymv1578 4 года назад +8

      They've already said Legend could be on the remaster list if Trials remake sells well.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 4 года назад +6

      @@trymv1578 lol hope they don't butcher it with names, censoring that racist rabbit or that horny guy, and a Simon's quest long day night transitions that was in trials lol

    • @Smokron
      @Smokron 4 года назад

      I'm gonna give a hot take but I think it's not a good game. It's pretty boring. I literally fell asleep while playing it. The story is pretty incoherent, the game is capital W Weird. Great graphics and music but just....dunno I think Trails of Mana on the SNES is peak Mana.

  • @TheLucidChiba
    @TheLucidChiba 4 года назад +32

    I fell in love with Legend of Mana the moment I saw the case in Blockbuster, still gives me feelings when I think about it.

    • @unclaimedusername6608
      @unclaimedusername6608 4 года назад

      Right? RIGHT?! I had the same first encounter and I've been longing for a game like it since.

  • @dearcrowns
    @dearcrowns 4 года назад +67

    If I'm not mistaken, the director of the SaGa games was also responsible for Legend, which probably explains why it ended up so different from its predecessors (i.e. open and a lot of complex systems).

    • @JameboHayabusa
      @JameboHayabusa 4 года назад +3

      That actually makes a lot of sense.

    • @tuvicious1156
      @tuvicious1156 4 года назад +7

      If I remember right, if you had Saga Frontier data on your memory card you would unlock a special boss in the bone fortress? It's been awhile.
      Same thing with FF7 and getting Chocobo egg early

    • @jameshoppe1417
      @jameshoppe1417 3 года назад

      Yeah Kawazu as I recall did have a hand in this game.

    • @megamike15
      @megamike15 3 месяца назад

      thats also why it's considered a spin off and not the 4th main game like dawn.

  • @Yenz30415
    @Yenz30415 4 года назад +122

    I have so much disdain for Square Enix, and having not played Mana before, this just adds to it. Like, the director of Dragon Quest was ready to quit because Square wouldn't let Yoko Taro make a new game, and that game became Nier: Automata, because they didn't see him as a cash cow basically. Even though the reason every single one of his games suffered was because they cut the games hard. Drakengard 1 was supposed to be on 2 discs, Nier was missing a plethora of content that got put into books, Drakengard 3 happened after Sqenix disolved Cavia and then gave Taro a new team that he didn't fully know and he just did whatever.
    The thing holding great games from Squenix back is Squenix. Nier got lucky, but you look at their "revival" of Legacy of Kain, and you see how much effort they really put into giving a damn about not Final Fantasy games.

    • @boredomkiller99
      @boredomkiller99 4 года назад +27

      Hell they arguable don't care enough about some final fantasy games.

    • @normalguycap
      @normalguycap 4 года назад +9

      I'm just adding that I don't think they even care much about FF as well. Terrible company. It defies sense they are still around.

    • @dudebroz
      @dudebroz 4 года назад +17

      To be fair Square Enix has also given chances to things like Bravely Default and Octopath Traveler, and has given a lot of love to The World Ends With You surprisingly enough, so I wouldn't say they don't give a damn about anything not Final Fantasy. Moreso they have their cash cow and then experiment seemingly at random on the side. Kind of reminds me of Cartoon Network now that I think about it.

    • @jonettheonly
      @jonettheonly 4 года назад +1

      So DQ director and Taro were friends?

    • @matthewdunaway7622
      @matthewdunaway7622 4 года назад +4

      ジョネーJonét the director he’s talking about is Yosuke Saito not Yuuji Hori (he’s the creator) and yeah Saito got sick of doing Dragon Quest so he threatened to quit if he didn’t get to work on something with Yoko Taro

  • @Alboreoh
    @Alboreoh 3 года назад +17

    Watching this again after the Legend of Mana Remaster announcement. It's my favorite PS1 game in general and I'm so excited. It's been a bummer seeing how it was largely received after the Direct.

  • @enamelpajamel8374
    @enamelpajamel8374 4 года назад +31

    Legend of mana is my favorite ps1 game of all time.

  • @Jonny_Jostar_
    @Jonny_Jostar_ 3 года назад +53

    I feel like the Nintendo direct announcement just shot this to the top of the algorithm

    • @lordzooq8987
      @lordzooq8987 3 года назад

      Wat was it?

    • @ThomasJeff1898
      @ThomasJeff1898 3 года назад +2

      @@lordzooq8987 He is referring to the fact a HD remaster of Legend of Mana got announced there. For those reading this reply, don't worry, it is multi-platform which means that the PS4 (and PS5 depending on backwards compatibility) and Steam/PC will get it as well.

    • @lordzooq8987
      @lordzooq8987 3 года назад +2

      @@ThomasJeff1898 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @milkncookie
      @milkncookie 3 года назад +1

      @@ThomasJeff1898 hi!

  • @KichiMiangra
    @KichiMiangra 4 года назад +22

    I frigging LOVE Legend of Mana and it's art direction and Character designs! It's one of my favorite game universes just for how unique settings and character designs and it's Music by Yoko Shimomura is breathtaking. If someone asked me "If your live was a game what is your hometown song?" I would always answer with either "Domina" Or "Places of Soul".
    Dawn was... kinda pretty but I found the levels hard to maneuver and it didn't really have a flow...Mostly from the "Do a level, get a cutscene" thing. I do remember wishing I could find a Dawn of Mana Manga that could string the plot better like Legend of Mana had.
    I feel like Children of Mana's BIGGEST flaw were that the dungeons where just.... super long and monotonous! ANd that's bad coming from me, a person who LOVES Dark Cloud! Who has maxed out their in game timer on Dark Cloud prolly 15 DIFFERENT TIMES! WHo has beaten the Demon Shaft Dungeon like 10 TIMES! There just wasn't much fun about the Dungeons of Children of Mana and about a teaspoon of story. I liked the Gem Grid as a level up system though! And the Artwork was lovely!
    Ooof Heroes of Mana.... Not gonna lie I skipped that one for 2 main reasons. 1.) I don't like 'Tactics' games like FFT and Fire Emblem. Not good at them. Don't have fun. And 2.) LITERALLY what KBash said in the video it looked like they were just copying FFT's artstyle! I did not likey, even Magical Starsign looked more like a Mana game than Heroes!
    In fairness I also loved Sword of Mana. Sure it was a remake and it was silly but it was a pretty one and I got to play the First mana game one way or another.
    I WAS SO DISAPOINTED WITH FRIENDS OF MANA AS IT WAS SET IN THE LEGEND OF UNIVERSE BUT... It was a Japan Exclusive Phone game... I didn't even OWN a cell phone when that game came out. I do remember WISHING that it would get a port like KH:ReCoded did to a handheld non-phone console but... never did.
    Mana used to be so distincted and unique. I would argue it was FUN. Even modern Final Fantasy games feel like they lost that element of High fantasy stupid fun. Had Mana just stayed on course I could have returned to the world of Racist Rabbits, Pirate Penguins, Minstrels being turned into Birds, Failing to hand out all the Leaflets... it was a fun world. But for some reason Square just ditched those fun imaginative stories for... What? A quick buck?

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +1

      Dawn of Mana was the first AND last game I ever pre-ordered. Also the first one I ever refunded. I didn't hold my breath for anything else after that.

    • @chillykomasan7971
      @chillykomasan7971 4 года назад +2

      Heroes of Mana is actually a DS RTS which is completely different from a Tactics game.

  • @joserobertoportilloescoto6510
    @joserobertoportilloescoto6510 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for remembering the mana series. The mana series specifically Legend of Mana is what got me into loving RPGs and is still to this day my favorite game. Playing a game, as a 12 years old kid, so many times and always with different outcomes helped me cope with bullying at school. Video games in general helped me through such a difficult phase of my childhood. And for that Legend of Mana still has a special place in my heart. I currently have a ps3, which is always plugged and ready to be used, I call it my mana console. I have it because I bought ps store version of Legend of Mana. I hope it is ported to current gen consoles and more with the trials of mana remake being so good.

  • @nattzero5315
    @nattzero5315 4 года назад +23

    I LOVE Legend of Mana, it's a game that can only be described by single word: Beautiful.

  • @AppericateGamer
    @AppericateGamer 3 года назад +10

    LEGEND OF MANA REMASTERED announced

  • @gansmith
    @gansmith 4 года назад +17

    Seeing how you tackle obscure JRPG series that deserve more love, it would be nice if you took a look a the Mana Khemia series. It was meant to be a spinoff of the Atelier series, but its MUCH more party focused than its moe parent series and much better than the parent series in my eyes. Really worth taking a quick look.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад

      Agreed. Also in the PSX era, Brave Fencer Musashi, and its spiritual successor, Threads of Fate (Dewprism)

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim 4 года назад

      Mana Khemia is not a spin off. There's a reason why it said project A9 in the start up. If Atelier Iris 3 Grand Phantasm was the 8th and Atelier Rorona is the 11th...where do you think 9&10 went?

  • @FarhanH1
    @FarhanH1 4 года назад +7

    I love Legend. One of my favourite games of all time and I’m so happy you gave it the justice and coverage it deserves. You’re so right when you say it’s absolutely a game that needs to be discovered and explored on its own ❤️

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад

      I've played it off and on for nearly 20 years and I still haven't seen everything. (mostly the insane card crafting thing)

  • @punkitt
    @punkitt 4 года назад +9

    KBash, that video title makes it sound like you're a wizard regaling me the story of how magic faded from our world.

  • @XelchanTheBrave
    @XelchanTheBrave 4 года назад +29

    If my backlog wasn't a thing, I'd totally play Legend of Mana after this review. It seems really good.

    • @daviddavidson6289
      @daviddavidson6289 4 года назад

      If he's talking about the PS1 mana game, it wasn't, it was pretty ass.

    • @JPG816
      @JPG816 4 года назад +6

      I think it depends on what kind of gamer you are. If you're looking to be challenged, you're going to be sorely disappointed. The mana series has a big problem with "I win" strategies. In Secret of Mana, it was magicking bosses to death. In this, it's the stunlocking of bosses. :/ It's still better than Secret of Mana's, especially if you choose not to stunlock-chain since it does take some timing and conscious effort to do, but yeah, this is not "Dark Souls" (sorry for that cliched reference, but I figure that's the best way to put it here).
      However, if you enjoy exploration, or enjoy games as an interactive experience, or enjoy a good story (series of stories? whatever), Legend of Mana is easily one of Square's finest. I would elaborate, but the graphics speak for themselves. The dialogue is charming AF. And it's gushing with love.
      The crafting mechanics are deep to the point of being somewhat bloaty - but it's not a bad bloat. Which is subjective, but let me just say that even if I was creating a horribly unnecessary nuking magical instrument, I still wanted to do it darn it! Just because I could! A FAQ on gamefaqs for any given mechanic is easily the size of a walkthrough for another game, ESPECIALLY blacksmithing which is ungodly complicated. I still don't 'get' it today, so arguably that's the bad bloat, but it's a minor problem.
      If I had to fix one thing with the game, I would make it so that the higher difficulty settings didn't feel like 'oh we just gave the enemies more HP and slightly more attack power' and made the enemies significantly more aggressive and quick.

    • @zaphero5518
      @zaphero5518 2 года назад

      @@JPG816 Oh turns out enemy aggressiveness was dropped in localization to the US, and the Remaster undid that. It has US stats (and stat typos) overall but the enemies will always be more aggressive than the original US release.

  • @reddeath1117
    @reddeath1117 4 года назад +4

    I love legend of Mana. It's the Mana game I grew up with and I absolutely loved it hearing you sing it's praises when not many do is truly a blessing.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад

      Same. Did you know the original composer took part in a jazz/flamenco remake of the game's soundtrack? It's called Promise, and you can get it on Amazon. ruclips.net/video/Jj5rvb8YD7Y/видео.html

  • @solidskullz5736
    @solidskullz5736 4 года назад +70

    Trials of mana looks promising, I can’t wait to get it

    • @TheDragonflyzero
      @TheDragonflyzero 4 года назад +19

      have you tried the demo? the combat is really fun in my opinion the voice acting is charmingly bad too

    • @silly5905
      @silly5905 4 года назад +2

      I've played through Duran's, Charlotte's and Hawkeye's stories on emulator and am so ready to play the other 3 in the remake.
      LET IT BE FRIDAY ALREADY

    • @boxxx903
      @boxxx903 4 года назад +2

      The demo is... Kinda bad...

    • @JCOdrjones
      @JCOdrjones 4 года назад +7

      @@boxxx903 no

    • @silly5905
      @silly5905 4 года назад +7

      I gotta agree somewhat, it doesn't feel bad but it certainly looks bad sometimes. Like some of the locations and animations really make it obvious that this was just a side project to Square Enix.

  • @sergio_trindade
    @sergio_trindade 4 года назад +19

    17:54 "*inhales* QUCAS?!" 😂😂😂

  • @jasonlaske3730
    @jasonlaske3730 4 года назад +1

    Best video to date. Hard to believe you packed so much info in a clean 22 minutes. It's great to see Mana covered, the good and the bad and what makes it stand out. Keep up the great work.

  • @TheAdventGamer
    @TheAdventGamer 4 года назад +20

    It's a shame Legend of Mana didn't do better, it's one of my personal favorites. After the Trials of Mana remake I kind of hope they show the same treatment to Legend of Mana as well though it might lose that painted aesthetic.

    • @jacobynoctis4825
      @jacobynoctis4825 3 года назад +2

      If they ever wanted to remake Legend of Mana, I would love for them to hire VanillaWare for the 2D art and animation

    • @TheAdventGamer
      @TheAdventGamer 3 года назад +2

      @@jacobynoctis4825 Oh, there's a thought. VanillaWare makes some beautiful 2D artwork.

    • @ErikaFurudo1337
      @ErikaFurudo1337 3 года назад +1

      I got some good news! Legend of Mana was confirmed

    • @TheAdventGamer
      @TheAdventGamer 3 года назад +1

      @@ErikaFurudo1337 I know, I saw the reveal. Super happy about it.

    • @jameshoppe1417
      @jameshoppe1417 3 года назад

      It got a remaster!

  • @EtnaBoy666
    @EtnaBoy666 4 года назад +12

    Well, with the remake of Trials to 3D, they are starting to understand that Mana isn't just a flash in the pan. I hope that enough people play the remake of Trials to hopefully get a remake of Legend of Mana(with simplified crafting) or a better remake of Dawn of Mana, then Square-Enix can hopefully get a fifth mainline entry for PS5. ;)

    • @francoisgagnonlemieux3135
      @francoisgagnonlemieux3135 4 года назад

      Crafting is amazing I love it and it is bot that hard. The problem is that it"s unexplained

    • @garuelx8627
      @garuelx8627 3 года назад

      I'm just amazed SE did more for Seiken Densetsu 3 than Crapcom ever did for Darkstalkers.

  • @CorneliousRR
    @CorneliousRR 4 года назад

    I JUST WANNA SAY, PART WAY THROUGH THE VIDEO YOU PRAISE GLOVES AND I FUCKING LOVE YOU, THAT GOT MY SUB AND BELL JINGLE JANGLE ON THE FUCKING SPOT!!!! LONG LIVE THE GLOVES!
    No but seriously, like me and friend did a playthrough of this game side-by-side through Discord about a week ago now and it was part of their childhood being the first Mana game they chewed through without it being like Secret of Mana where he was relegated to some side character for only battles and shit, this was the first one he sat down himself and learned to get good at and enjoyed, and having that experience with them was amazing, to see their wonder and experience it alongside them was phenomenal and basically left the whole thing with the new fact that it's probably my favorite, or at least 2nd favorite of the Mana series just for all the good it does right and having spent that time with my friend. This game is critically underrated and deserves praise.

  • @darinholm8795
    @darinholm8795 4 года назад +2

    Man, I gotta say I am really impressed with the steady increase in production value on this channel. You deserve way more subscribers man.

  • @Henryisacat
    @Henryisacat 3 года назад +1

    I love your takes, Kbash! And such a fun watch 😁

  • @RubescentDragon
    @RubescentDragon 4 года назад +10

    Legend of mana was my first mana, and I loved it so much as a child even if I couldn't get far, I wanted to own it so bad, and now I do I'm so happy.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад

      If you ever wanna play online with friends, you can pop your CD into your PC and find a PSX emulator, then use something like Parsec to remotely simulate couch coop with people. Works pretty well.

  • @maxjustice1542
    @maxjustice1542 3 года назад +3

    After finishing Secrets of Mana last year, I’m definitely going to give Legend of Mana a shot.
    Thanks Kbash

  • @chrisgee8441
    @chrisgee8441 4 года назад +5

    Legend of Mana was GOLD. Loved it then, love it now. Replayed it sooooo many times.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +1

      Ever tried playing it online with a friend? With an emulator and something like Parsec, it works pretty good.

  • @MegadeathAdams
    @MegadeathAdams 4 года назад +3

    Thanks a ton, man. Legend of Mana is my favorite game of all time and you managed to properly convey most of it's charm, flaws and finer points in only a few minutes. Kudos.

  • @ClayRoks
    @ClayRoks 3 года назад +2

    Kbash: legend is unknown and unloved
    Legends: and i took that personally

  • @killertrip10
    @killertrip10 4 года назад +26

    I'm surprised you didn't bring up the co-op in Legend of Mana that let's you play with your character from another save file.
    It's my favorite one. Thanks for not... Ehh, bashing on it.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +3

      Don't think it was from another save file, but rather with a NPC that you -can- turn on or off at a save point statue thing.

    • @durakeno5575
      @durakeno5575 4 года назад +3

      @@ablationer it's either. You can call up your character from another save file as a companion or one of those NPCs

  • @monica_ex_d7043
    @monica_ex_d7043 4 года назад +4

    Love Legend of Mana and still listen to the soundtrack to relax ❤️

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад

      If you love the soundtrack, you might wanna check out the remake album Promise that the original composer worked on. ruclips.net/video/Jj5rvb8YD7Y/видео.html

  • @Shiki0414
    @Shiki0414 3 года назад +3

    I love Dawn of Mana. Downer ending ftw and the art style, especially the character design, is so beautiful.

  • @PetiteKero
    @PetiteKero 7 месяцев назад +1

    The "No vision" statement at 20:07 didn't age very well. We get VISIONS OF MANA, manafugga! :D
    Nice review, loved the slam dunks.

  • @GrumpySylveon
    @GrumpySylveon Год назад +1

    I gave the remastered legend of mana a shot only because i saw how beautiful it is. I was not disappointed, and I really enjoyed just experimenting with all these systems and attacks and weapons. HELL, I had no idea you could do wresting moves on enemies! That’s crazy!

  • @braydenbowling2445
    @braydenbowling2445 4 года назад

    I really enjoyed this video kbash i can tell there was some serious effort in this video as always keep the videos coming

  • @MorgothGamingTrove
    @MorgothGamingTrove Год назад +1

    Just discovered your channel, and as someone who absolutely love the Seiken Densetsu IP, I will always be saddened by the fact that Dawn of Mana killed the series. Heroes cemented its death.
    But I will be forever glad that we got Seiken 2, Seiken 3, Legend and Sword.

  • @rashid2898
    @rashid2898 4 года назад +7

    no talk for Trials of mana remake :O that was good

  • @christianlopez707
    @christianlopez707 4 месяца назад +1

    20:07 I think Square enix heard you because Visions of Mana is now a thing.

  • @Dracobyte
    @Dracobyte 3 года назад +2

    A remaster of Legend of Mana is coming!

  • @leandrabarros3582
    @leandrabarros3582 4 года назад +1

    I meet the channel a wile ago and i love your videos! Thank you for a great content

  • @petwisk2012
    @petwisk2012 4 года назад +17

    Humble question: are You going to cover the western regected brother/fake sequel to secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore?

    • @squelchotron8259
      @squelchotron8259 4 года назад +7

      A massively underrated game.

    • @densetsuno6487
      @densetsuno6487 4 года назад +5

      Agreed. Reeeeeally loved that game, and an incredible soundtrack from none other than Jeremy Soule, the now-composer for the Elder Scrolls series. The fact he did it in his teens... what a monster.

  • @vsolyomi
    @vsolyomi 4 года назад +2

    Legend of Mana, Saga Frontier 2, Valkyrie Profile... miss those times. Beauty is dead for all I care.

    • @normalguycap
      @normalguycap 4 года назад

      It sucks. It's their fault for being money obsessed scumbags. It's our fault for constantly accepting the crap they shit out.

    • @Symphony85p
      @Symphony85p 4 года назад

      Cant say you picked the best examples but ok i get your point.

  • @chesterfieldthe3rd929
    @chesterfieldthe3rd929 4 года назад +2

    This games art should be in some hall of fame. It's incredibly done.

  • @JameboHayabusa
    @JameboHayabusa 4 года назад +24

    If Legend of Mana's painted backgrounds makes your balls wet, then you should check out SaGa Frontier 2. It's basically water painted art.

    • @KichiMiangra
      @KichiMiangra 4 года назад +2

      WHAT?!
      I actually had to go google that omg those are so lovely! I think I like LoM's setting better but those are some absolutely GORGEOUS backgrounds! Is the game itself any good Because I kinda want to hunt that game down JUST for being pretty!

    • @GELTONZ
      @GELTONZ 4 года назад

      @@KichiMiangra Honestly? Most people consider SaGa Frontier 2 to be pretty bad and one of the worst SaGa games BUT it has it's fans. Know what's better though? GAME IS CHEAP. You can find a copy of SaGa Frontier 2 for $20 or less no problem so if you have the guts to try it, you certainly can. I mostly remember it being incredibly confusing and odd which...I mean maybe there's something great hidden in there once you decipher the game. SaGa be like that.

    • @daviddavidson6289
      @daviddavidson6289 4 года назад

      I didn't give a fuck personally, lol. The SNES was pulling off some crazy shit back in the day so when they did that shit on the PS1, I was pretty whatever.

  • @TheBatmanMan1
    @TheBatmanMan1 17 дней назад

    Listening to your last lines thinking “Visions of Mana!! Let’s GOOOO!!!”

  • @AnotherBinjin
    @AnotherBinjin 4 года назад +3

    Legend of Mana is by far my favorite mana game. Also Golem programming helped me learn real programming when i was younger, as silly as that sounds.

  • @timmer919hep
    @timmer919hep 3 года назад +4

    I literally just watched this video last night and they announce a remaster of Legend of Mana for the switch today. Now I REALLY wanna try it.

  • @MCBVL7
    @MCBVL7 4 года назад +1

    Great video man, especially with you complimenting Legend of Mana. I feel that game doesn't get enough love.

  • @justsomejojo
    @justsomejojo Год назад +1

    Children of Mana was my introduction to the series and I actually have a lot of fond memories of it. I really liked all the enemy and character designs. That said, yeah, it definitely didn't make me go out of my way to check out the games that came before. The only other contemporary Mana game I had easy access to was Heroes and I didn't like RTS (still don't). The only other Mana experience I had, for years, was an emulated copy of Sword of Mana, which I really liked too. I'm glad they eventually came out with the Collection of Mana, because it enabled me to play the golden times of the series. The hunch that I'd like it based on what little I played before was right.
    I really hope we get more Mana games that capture the old spirit.

  • @e2rqey
    @e2rqey 4 года назад +2

    4:14 KBash *slithering* .... WATCH OUT *WATCH OUT!*

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan2864 4 года назад +9

    ok imma play Legend of Mana now

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +3

      You can also play online with a friend if you have an emulator and something like Parsec to simulate couch coop, it's pretty dope.

  • @betuna9487
    @betuna9487 Месяц назад

    It's been 4 years since you introduced me to Mana. Thanks mate

  • @yingyangfoxgirl1
    @yingyangfoxgirl1 4 года назад +1

    Legend of Mana was my first game ( never was allowed to play games until my dad went and bought me a ps1 with LoM) and I love it so much. I'm crossing my fingers for a remake after playing Trials.

  • @Magitek1112
    @Magitek1112 4 года назад +6

    No mention that Heroes of Mana is actually a prequel to Trials? (No, really. It's even where a lot of the localized names for Trials come from.)

  • @legendemi31
    @legendemi31 4 года назад +1

    Legend of Mana is my all time favorite game. I still play it to this day.

  • @MrSuckeragi
    @MrSuckeragi 4 года назад +1

    "Legend of Mana" I have played this game multiple times over several years. I have no idea what it was really about. but it was lovely

  • @tommytsunami420
    @tommytsunami420 4 года назад +1

    Bro "get dunked" part knocked me dead keeping it real lmfao

  • @hgc7000
    @hgc7000 Год назад +1

    Legend of Mana was the first Mana game I played, I borrowed it from a friend, and got about a 3rd of the way through initially. I finally went back to finish it about 4 years ago, and was just blown away by backgrounds. Younger me didn't enjoy the open design of game exploration, current me absolutely loves it. And that soundtrack! Yes indeed, wandering through towns and dungeons to hear the songs is a thing! It's cool to have a second player play NPCs, and I got my son to play along and beat the game with me, so it ended up being a more rewarding experience with multiple playthroughs.
    And yes, Nicolo is the absolute worst.

    • @betuna9487
      @betuna9487 9 дней назад

      You brought me to tears. I'll save this beautiful letter for subsequent father's days.

  • @Kelohmello
    @Kelohmello 4 года назад +6

    I'll never be able to shake the feeling of betrayal I was struck with when little kid me bought Dawn of Mana thinking it'd be an awesome JRPG only for it to not be one at all.
    Console JRPGs started to die off around then too. What a bad time.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +2

      Dawn was the first game I ever pre-ordered, and also the first game I ever refunded.

  • @blstar_
    @blstar_ 4 года назад +6

    6:39 just...not again

  • @dimamenetro
    @dimamenetro 4 года назад

    I LOVEE the short rap you did lol

  • @AngryCosmonaut
    @AngryCosmonaut 4 года назад +2

    One of my favorite things about Legend of Mana (besides the beautiful ost) is that your character doesnt feel like the protagonist, just a part of the world.

  • @irl_lizard7880
    @irl_lizard7880 Год назад

    It's interesting that you bring up Crystal Chronicles since the person who directed CC was a producer/designer for Legend of Mana, that is Akitoshi Kawazu the director of the SaGa series (one of my favorite series). His involvement is why LoM has caught my interest lol

  • @8REIS8
    @8REIS8 3 года назад +4

    I love the trials of mana remake. Sadly never arrive in my country.
    So i buy it from ebay

  • @VSpoodle
    @VSpoodle 4 года назад

    Thank you for making the video about Legend of Mana I kept waiting to see. It is what I would consider one of the best game experiences someone can have.

  • @TheBattleRabbit860
    @TheBattleRabbit860 6 дней назад

    I think this is the 3rd video from you about Mana I've seen/commented on? But rejoice! For a 5th main line entry arrives in 20 days (19 if you preordered deluxe edition.. which comes with legacy outfits for characters). I hope you do a video covering Visions, because I got high hopes for this one.

  • @ShadowWolfRising
    @ShadowWolfRising 3 года назад +1

    Remaster of Legend of Mana gives me hope, hope it does well.

  • @burlone4342
    @burlone4342 4 года назад +1

    At this point I'm kinda interested in the lore behind Zane the Impure, and Zane the pure.

  • @eclipsion6728
    @eclipsion6728 4 года назад +1

    I’d never tried the Mana series, but you’ve inspired me to try Legend. Thank you!

    • @enkidude
      @enkidude 4 года назад

      It's the best by a wide margin

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +1

      Don't get discouraged if you find yourself thinking "Now where the hell do I go? What do I do?" You're not supposed to follow a clear path, but rather explore and roam around, bumping into people and starting quests left and right. It's intended to be that way, don't overthink it, otherwise you'll have a bad time.

    • @fyrflyr2378
      @fyrflyr2378 4 года назад

      @@ablationer
      An object marker would've been fine though.

    • @Symphony85p
      @Symphony85p 4 года назад

      @@enkidude ahaha what are talking about ?? So much bullshit. Legend of mana is not even close to the quality of seiken densetsu 2 and 3 and the majority knows that. Legend of mana was not even real or good mana game it was ok very good graphics and ost but thats it.

    • @Symphony85p
      @Symphony85p 4 года назад

      Whatever you do dont ever start with legend of mana because that game is not even close to be on the same level as mana 2 and 3 im a big mana fan own them all and finished them multiple times.

  • @blackdragoncyrus
    @blackdragoncyrus 4 года назад +18

    KBash, play the Trails series.

    • @Gobsmac
      @Gobsmac 4 года назад +3

      After covering these I want to see him cover Ys first. Much less of a timesink too

    • @TheMapofYourHead
      @TheMapofYourHead 4 года назад

      Yeah, but cover Trails of Cold Steel. Everyone loves the Sky series, but I always liked Cold Steel for the way they continuously tell a pretty good, very interesting story and you see some fledgling class of idiots turn into literal wartime generals and shit. Pretty sweet.

    • @Next-xm2dh
      @Next-xm2dh 4 года назад

      @@TheMapofYourHead I Mean, If He's Going to Cover The Trails Series He Will Eventually Get to Coldsteel

  • @nate009gmail
    @nate009gmail 4 года назад +6

    my dude heres a jrpg series for you: shin megami tensei - nocturne / digital devil saga

  • @KeepReachingForTheStars
    @KeepReachingForTheStars 4 года назад

    Thank you for talking about Legend of Mana. Still one of my favorite video games even to this day: that game is so underrated. I could talk for hours about the combat system, crafting weapons/golems/magic spells, pets, fruits, story Arks with different characters, the beautiful music... but I won't do it (talk for hours) :')

  • @Nosh5
    @Nosh5 4 года назад +1

    This was my 1st entry in it. I loved it, i missed when squaresoft focused on more than just FF

  • @Ricekrispy10
    @Ricekrispy10 4 года назад +1

    Okay that birthing the sword part was hilarious

  • @najeerabbit
    @najeerabbit 4 года назад +7

    Sword and Legend of Mana were the best ones imo

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад

      Despite the relatively poor quality of the GBA soundchip, Sword had some bangers, surprisingly.

  • @Mykohori
    @Mykohori 4 года назад +3

    I must admit, Legend of Mana was the greatest game I've ever played as a child and I treasured it greatly. I was that one guy that had the perfect placement, did every single quests, filed up every single cactus entries, had the best weapons, instruments and pets. Each quest line stories had its own charms, and the music was fantastic. Until after I graduated from High School learning that every panels was hand drawn/painted, every single sprites, every artifact, made me treasure this game even more. I played this game with a friend from Highschool for over a year, we appreciated everything about it, and after graduation, we both became Art students but went separate ways. I'll never forget about this game, and has been hoping over the years that Legend of Mana gets a remake it deserves.
    Also, if you are a fan of the music, please get this album, you will never regret it. ruclips.net/video/Jj5rvb8YD7Y/видео.html

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +1

      I've been playing Legend off and on for the last 20 years, and I still haven't 100%'d it.

  • @crowbarcat8339
    @crowbarcat8339 4 года назад

    Your videos are really great i always find myself appreciating your videos and channel good work KBash :)

  • @vsolyomi
    @vsolyomi 4 года назад +1

    Mah beautiful Legend of Mana! Tens of hours farming and smithing glow crystals...

  • @xejogear1136
    @xejogear1136 4 года назад

    I fucking love Legend of Mana, and always almost cry, when i hear opening song.
    What a fucking masterpiece, man.

  • @smiller2323
    @smiller2323 3 года назад

    Bro you should be in video game marketing, half the time I watch your videos I end up buying the games you talk about

  • @HeeminGaminStation
    @HeeminGaminStation 4 года назад

    after rewatching this and the other mana video I love the parallel of them both "approaching a cliff" and then doing very different things.

  • @danielscott70x7
    @danielscott70x7 3 года назад

    “Hey look, there’s secret of mana. No no no, stop!!!!!”
    You have me dying here, man. Your humor is on point. Full stop.

  • @knorkstea606
    @knorkstea606 3 года назад +5

    Just saw the hd release for the switch
    Hype!!

  • @averystar16
    @averystar16 3 года назад +1

    After beating legend of mana. Its definitely one of the best Jrpgs and the best mana game

  • @a-listsupervillain7546
    @a-listsupervillain7546 4 года назад +1

    "The cruel death of mana"? I got a Trails of Mana commercial during this vid, ya dip.

  • @Maggerama
    @Maggerama 4 года назад +1

    Such a beautiful clusterfuck of a series.

  • @gamerwes75
    @gamerwes75 4 года назад +1

    I just watch the same ad 4x for this guy, you earned it

  • @averystar16
    @averystar16 4 года назад +1

    Just got legend on my Vita cause of this omg there's so MUCH! the quest, the art, the writing, the pets, it's all good. A remake of this would be really interesting

  • @sheercold26
    @sheercold26 4 года назад +2

    this...this actually hurt my feelings.
    i loved the Mana series as a kid :(

  • @khaosklub
    @khaosklub 3 года назад

    my favorite thing about the mana series is the multiplayer. I still remember first playing secret of mana, and getting a multi-tap for our SNES so I could play it 3 player with my siblings. An RPG game, that was 3 player on the SNES? amazing!
    That and the characters reminded me of chrono trigger. I pretty much thought the girl in secret of mana was princess nadia from chrono trigger back in the day.

  • @Sin606
    @Sin606 4 года назад

    Legend was one of the best PS1 games I've ever played. Thanks for talking great about it. You're awesome KBash.

  • @tiagocosmos
    @tiagocosmos 4 года назад +2

    I loved Legend of Mana.

  • @lynararosewater923
    @lynararosewater923 4 года назад +1

    My first Mana game was Sword of Mana and I loved it. Then when I wanted more I got Dawn and never even finished it. It was nothing like what I was looking for. Wish I knew about Legend of Mana back then. The series wasn't really advertised when I was a kid, Sword was the first game I heard of because one of my Game Informer magazines has a cool poster in it. Honestly the series might have been a lot more successful if it had a bigger marketing push. Square just didn't have faith in it.

    • @ablationer
      @ablationer 4 года назад +1

      Dawn of Mana was the first game I ever pre-ordered, and the last one. Legend is definitely worth a shot though, if you can get a hold of it.

    • @lynararosewater923
      @lynararosewater923 4 года назад +1

      @@ablationer Well it is on the Playstation Store for the Vita for $6. I think I'll check it out.

  • @jonettheonly
    @jonettheonly 4 года назад +1

    Until now I thought there were only 3 Mana games.

  • @rudidellama3718
    @rudidellama3718 4 года назад

    Man played so much when I was younger, finally did every quest a couple years ago. Wish the world backstory books were unlockable in one playthrough, everything start to make a lot more sense with you read that (not everything though). Gotta love the OST too, Nostalgic Song, Hometown Domina and Diddle´s Organ are some of the highlights for me

    • @rudidellama3718
      @rudidellama3718 4 года назад

      Notice that you didn't even mentioned the golen creation, gotta love the huge amount of mechanics

  • @inedibleduustloopz3911
    @inedibleduustloopz3911 3 года назад +3

    Legend of Mana announced for switch!

  • @regancasper7518
    @regancasper7518 4 года назад +1

    Legend of Mana is the best game I have ever played hands down. It is beautiful and it has an amazing soundtrack. I like that the storyline isn't linear, so you can kind of just do whatever you want. But I especially love the diversity. There are so many different races in LoM who have their own unique cultures. TBH the world building in LoM is incredible. So much thought went into every NPC and nearly every one of them is relevant to the game. I have been playing the Trials of Mana remake recently, and while I am enjoying it, it just doesn't compare. I don't know if the rest of the Mana games are like this but the lack of diversity and NPC development is disappointing to me since I am so used to the rich world of LoM.

  • @thatoneguy2523
    @thatoneguy2523 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Can you do the Ys series?

  • @jhsrt985
    @jhsrt985 4 года назад

    Dude I'm so glad you made this to bring attention to this game. It's in my top 5 all time rpgs along w grandia, star ocean, ff7 breath of fire 4 n tales series. It's 2nd best maybe the first. Just wish it was longer. That's the only thing more I could ask if it. The agoan for all the funny ass videos, can u do mega Man ZX. I heard they were awesome and hard so if love to see u review em and get crushed lol. See ya dude

  • @chillykomasan7971
    @chillykomasan7971 2 года назад

    If I thought of what will make the true Adventure time game that isn’t shovelware. It’s Legend of Mana anyway. The perfect fit to a complex puzzle.