Nah, I'll judge before I hear you. You're a HERO. I did listen and you basically nailed as to why I won't buy an EV. Maybe in a few years their time will come but the EV's available now are basically the model T's of the new technology, they are still in early development. If and when they can sort all the problems I will be the first in line but that means it has to be affordable too.
@@Rexbilly9819 Sadly reality is vastly different than Ambitions, Aspirations and Dreams the Left has. If the EV was better than than the old tried and true Mechanical engine cars....People would Organically be rushing out to get rid of their problematic stinky noisy gas guzzeling cars.......BUT THEY ARE NOT! hummm wonder why.
@@ForagerTaxin Austria lots of people have EVs, all electricity comes from renewables, travel distances are way smaller than in the u.s., there is no motor tax and you can insure a 400hp ev for 40 euro a month. Insuring a gas car with such power would cost 700 euros a month. So, i think its fairly safe to say that we have in fact figured it out mostly. There are still very few evs that can be considered a good all-around car but battery tech is evolving rapidly.
@@werewalkinghere I define 'figured it out' as when there are as many charging stations as gas stations and charging takes the same amount of time as filling up. I've been in Europe the last 3 summers and I've had a rental car each time. Some of these engines are so fuel efficient, it makes the hassle of switching to the EV world less appealing. At home in California I drive a 2025 Toyota Camry, which is a hybrid, and I have been getting 53 miles per gallon (on hills and driving fast). It also has EV mode for short distances. It's really the best of both worlds. The convenience of gas but with excellent fuel economy and low emissions. I think Toyota's new hybrid tech is the cutting edge of non-idealistic forward-thinking. Thank you for your comment.
Good for you to try. I guess it depends on what area you live in. We have a Tesla Model 3 and a Model Y, and we normally home charge for a really cheap rate. For trips on the East Coast of the US, there are Superchargers everywhere. The only place that was a bit of a struggle was NYC because I had to go out of my way for the few days I was up there. I can't see myself going back to gas, although I still own an F150.
Its not like ICE don't depreciate a lot in the first three years. Confused how much you are driving. For most commuters EVs have plenty of range. Between the 80 and 20 % charging range a Tesla will get 200 miles.
There is no comparison, EV's depreciate faster than ICE cars. This is widely known. On a separate anecdotal note, I sold my Chevy Silverado for more money than I paid for it after 3 years of ownership. Now I'm in a 2025 Camry hybrid and it's the best of both worlds. The thought of returning to an EV makes me cringe.
@@ForagerTax The jury is out on that. New EVs costs have been decreasing as new ICEs costs have been increasing. That affects the resale market greatly. We need to see the effects when all the government subsidies are removed from EVs. That will be a better comparison of long term depreciation.
@DonaldMains, I drive about 10, 000 miles a year. What is the most financial \ cheapest way in my own personal vehicle to accomplish the same task. Let me help you out .....its NOT in an EV. An older Used car even at 10 mpg is still way more economical than any EV, new or used.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your VW ID. VW's EV's have had too many software issues, poor technical support, plus you have to charge on very unreliable charging networks while you're on the road. This is why Tesla still doesn't have any competition!
You might be right. Although, I often see the Tesla charging stations are full - plus cars waiting in queue. I still have a deposit on a cyber truck placed in 2019, so I may end up with a Tesla someday.
Did my homework, bought an Ioniq 5 (3rd year) so it's a proven platform. VW hasn't got it right yet, so I avoided that model. Like most EV drivers I am ecstatic, and can't imagine going back to burning stuff. This guy has a good reason to complain, but don't take his experience as average, because it isn't. Charging at home is fantastic! The savings in gas and maintenance too, but do your research! I know of Ford F-150 drivers who swear they will never convert, yet they seem okay with their company putting them behind the wheel of a lightning, which saves that company the a fore mentioned costs. They have come down to a price right near the ICE version, so it would be stupid not to consider them as a fleet buyer.
Congratulations on your car purchase. I remember when I was ecstatic and felt more evolved than the gas guzzlers. Now I cringe a the thought of an EV. Everyone's different and it may be a fit for you. I wish you the best!.
I don’t fault you for your choice. We’re still in the early years of EV development. With Ford now changing over to the Tesla style connector, hopefully some of the charging woes will get better. As far as cost, I commute 50miles round trip. My former ice car cost $60-70 per fill up since it required premium fuel. My EV cost me $35 per month. I do hope that you are happy with your new car. For if you’re not happy with a car the rest won’t matter. I hope enough is the issues will be resolved in the next 5-10 years that you may be encouraged to try an EV again. Safe travels.
EV is an old and outdated solution. ICE is high-tech. Why do you think Turkey, Vietnam and all kinds of no-name Chinese Brands are flooding the market with garbage EVs now. You've been brainwashed.
If you cannot afford a couple of vehicles, you cannot have an EV as your one and only car... Besides, you didnt get the real one... 96% of TESLA owners won't return to ICE vehicles for good... It happened that you are poor and also bought a crapy EV... sorry.
Few people have the luxury of owning a backup ICE car just because EVs are highly inconvenient. I made this video 16 month ago and in the meantime I have seen a huge trend in EV drivers returning to ICE, including Tesla owners. My aversion to EVs is not stemmed in financial scarcity. EVs may be for you, but I'm staying with ICE for good.
@@ForagerTaxvolkswagen evs suck afaik. And deprecation of all EVs is indeed much quicker, here in Austria companies are allowed to “depreciate” them at 30% per year. Still, I think it really matters where you live and where you drive. For me personally, switching from a 20 year old diesel bmw to a 3 year old tesla might actually make sense financially, since there is no motor tax and insurance would be dirt cheap - and even the most reliable bmw engine is not very cheap to maintain. But, I don’t have a home charger, and I’m already filling up my diesel car with HVO which means I’ve already reduced my co2 emissions very significantly. I personally don’t need to drive every day and an EV would actually be quite convenient but I’d have to keep the same ev for at least five years for it to make financial sense, and probably even more for it to result in co2 savings. Still, when someone is buying a new ICE, they commit to 3-4x lifetime co2 emissions in the States, and 8-10x co2 emissions here in Austria where all electricity comes from renewals. It would have been nice if you mentioned that tradeoff for your convenience in the video, otherwise it sounds like oil mafia propaganda.
@@werewalkinghere haha, not meant to be propaganda. I drove past a (non-tesla) charging station at Walmart yesterday and it was completely full with a wait. And it's not like a gas station where people will be there for 5-10 minutes. The thought of playing that game again gives me anxiety. So this video was more about practicality and convenience. That said, I don't know if renewables are sufficient to foster EV and phase out ICEs en-masse. I think nuclear power is needed to create electricity to meet such a high demand. In California there is a push to phase out EV, but we are also told to moderate electricity consumption during the summer. We get emergency text alerts and even occasional outages due to demand exceeding supply. The phase out will not work unless something radically changes.
Welcome back.
It's only temporary, pal.
I have a 2019 tesla model 3 performance awd long range and sold it for a toyota rav4 hybrid im so happy
Funny you say that, I picked up a '25 Camry and get 50+ MPG. I couldn't be happier. Welcome back to convenience and peace of mind.
This is the way!
Tell the feds to LEAVE my ICE alone!!!!
Nah, I'll judge before I hear you.
You're a HERO.
I did listen and you basically nailed as to why I won't buy an EV.
Maybe in a few years their time will come but the EV's available now are basically the model T's of the new technology, they are still in early development.
If and when they can sort all the problems I will be the first in line but that means it has to be affordable too.
Haha. Your assessment is 100% accurate.
The model T was better than the horse and likewise electric cars are better than mechanical cars.
@@Rexbilly9819 Sadly reality is vastly different than Ambitions, Aspirations and Dreams the Left has. If the EV was better than than the old tried and true Mechanical engine cars....People would Organically be rushing out to get rid of their problematic stinky noisy gas guzzeling cars.......BUT THEY ARE NOT! hummm wonder why.
This is the US 9 hr flight from Europe.Europe is different over 400 million people and a totally different infrastructure.
And even Europe is unrealistic about EV. It's highly impractical in its current state. Nowhere has it figured out yet.
@@ForagerTaxin Austria lots of people have EVs, all electricity comes from renewables, travel distances are way smaller than in the u.s., there is no motor tax and you can insure a 400hp ev for 40 euro a month. Insuring a gas car with such power would cost 700 euros a month. So, i think its fairly safe to say that we have in fact figured it out mostly. There are still very few evs that can be considered a good all-around car but battery tech is evolving rapidly.
@@werewalkinghere I define 'figured it out' as when there are as many charging stations as gas stations and charging takes the same amount of time as filling up. I've been in Europe the last 3 summers and I've had a rental car each time. Some of these engines are so fuel efficient, it makes the hassle of switching to the EV world less appealing. At home in California I drive a 2025 Toyota Camry, which is a hybrid, and I have been getting 53 miles per gallon (on hills and driving fast). It also has EV mode for short distances. It's really the best of both worlds. The convenience of gas but with excellent fuel economy and low emissions. I think Toyota's new hybrid tech is the cutting edge of non-idealistic forward-thinking. Thank you for your comment.
EVs and environment in one sentence 🤣🤣🤣
Good for you to try. I guess it depends on what area you live in. We have a Tesla Model 3 and a Model Y, and we normally home charge for a really cheap rate. For trips on the East Coast of the US, there are Superchargers everywhere. The only place that was a bit of a struggle was NYC because I had to go out of my way for the few days I was up there. I can't see myself going back to gas, although I still own an F150.
P.lug-in is the way to go currently if you love EVs
Its not like ICE don't depreciate a lot in the first three years. Confused how much you are driving. For most commuters EVs have plenty of range. Between the 80 and 20 % charging range a Tesla will get 200 miles.
There is no comparison, EV's depreciate faster than ICE cars. This is widely known. On a separate anecdotal note, I sold my Chevy Silverado for more money than I paid for it after 3 years of ownership. Now I'm in a 2025 Camry hybrid and it's the best of both worlds. The thought of returning to an EV makes me cringe.
@@ForagerTax The jury is out on that. New EVs costs have been decreasing as new ICEs costs have been increasing. That affects the resale market greatly. We need to see the effects when all the government subsidies are removed from EVs. That will be a better comparison of long term depreciation.
@DonaldMains, I drive about 10, 000 miles a year. What is the most financial \ cheapest way in my own personal vehicle to accomplish the same task. Let me help you out .....its NOT in an EV. An older Used car even at 10 mpg is still way more economical than any EV, new or used.
@@ImLivinSD No need to help me out. I understand. it doesn't make sense for you. For others it might work out. it's that simple.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your VW ID. VW's EV's have had too many software issues, poor technical support, plus you have to charge on very unreliable charging networks while you're on the road. This is why Tesla still doesn't have any competition!
You might be right. Although, I often see the Tesla charging stations are full - plus cars waiting in queue. I still have a deposit on a cyber truck placed in 2019, so I may end up with a Tesla someday.
Did my homework, bought an Ioniq 5 (3rd year) so it's a proven platform. VW hasn't got it right yet, so I avoided that model. Like most EV drivers I am ecstatic, and can't imagine going back to burning stuff. This guy has a good reason to complain, but don't take his experience as average, because it isn't. Charging at home is fantastic! The savings in gas and maintenance too, but do your research! I know of Ford F-150 drivers who swear they will never convert, yet they seem okay with their company putting them behind the wheel of a lightning, which saves that company the a fore mentioned costs. They have come down to a price right near the ICE version, so it would be stupid not to consider them as a fleet buyer.
Congratulations on your car purchase. I remember when I was ecstatic and felt more evolved than the gas guzzlers. Now I cringe a the thought of an EV. Everyone's different and it may be a fit for you. I wish you the best!.
Hope you've been enjoying that EV you bought ... xD
@@jurycould4275 Absolutely. My next car will definitely be an EV also.
@@Trashed20659 Sure you are ;) Already thinking about your next car? What car are you thinking about consuming next?
I don’t fault you for your choice. We’re still in the early years of EV development. With Ford now changing over to the Tesla style connector, hopefully some of the charging woes will get better. As far as cost, I commute 50miles round trip. My former ice car cost $60-70 per fill up since it required premium fuel. My EV cost me $35 per month. I do hope that you are happy with your new car. For if you’re not happy with a car the rest won’t matter. I hope enough is the issues will be resolved in the next 5-10 years that you may be encouraged to try an EV again. Safe travels.
EV is an old and outdated solution. ICE is high-tech. Why do you think Turkey, Vietnam and all kinds of no-name Chinese Brands are flooding the market with garbage EVs now. You've been brainwashed.
I like my gas vehicle...will never buy an EV just a bunch of garbage...I rather Walk.
I like my electric vehicle...will never buy another mechanical piston vehicle just a bunch of garbage....I rather Walk.
If you cannot afford a couple of vehicles, you cannot have an EV as your one and only car... Besides, you didnt get the real one... 96% of TESLA owners won't return to ICE vehicles for good... It happened that you are poor and also bought a crapy EV... sorry.
Few people have the luxury of owning a backup ICE car just because EVs are highly inconvenient. I made this video 16 month ago and in the meantime I have seen a huge trend in EV drivers returning to ICE, including Tesla owners. My aversion to EVs is not stemmed in financial scarcity. EVs may be for you, but I'm staying with ICE for good.
You are so right Tesla is only for the rich because the depreciation is thrue the roof and it is good they can afford it 😂
@@bernardhulsbos5908 haha, you called it. Fastest way to lose money besides a casino.
@@ForagerTaxvolkswagen evs suck afaik. And deprecation of all EVs is indeed much quicker, here in Austria companies are allowed to “depreciate” them at 30% per year. Still, I think it really matters where you live and where you drive. For me personally, switching from a 20 year old diesel bmw to a 3 year old tesla might actually make sense financially, since there is no motor tax and insurance would be dirt cheap - and even the most reliable bmw engine is not very cheap to maintain. But, I don’t have a home charger, and I’m already filling up my diesel car with HVO which means I’ve already reduced my co2 emissions very significantly. I personally don’t need to drive every day and an EV would actually be quite convenient but I’d have to keep the same ev for at least five years for it to make financial sense, and probably even more for it to result in co2 savings. Still, when someone is buying a new ICE, they commit to 3-4x lifetime co2 emissions in the States, and 8-10x co2 emissions here in Austria where all electricity comes from renewals. It would have been nice if you mentioned that tradeoff for your convenience in the video, otherwise it sounds like oil mafia propaganda.
@@werewalkinghere haha, not meant to be propaganda. I drove past a (non-tesla) charging station at Walmart yesterday and it was completely full with a wait. And it's not like a gas station where people will be there for 5-10 minutes. The thought of playing that game again gives me anxiety. So this video was more about practicality and convenience. That said, I don't know if renewables are sufficient to foster EV and phase out ICEs en-masse. I think nuclear power is needed to create electricity to meet such a high demand. In California there is a push to phase out EV, but we are also told to moderate electricity consumption during the summer. We get emergency text alerts and even occasional outages due to demand exceeding supply. The phase out will not work unless something radically changes.
Ew no wonder you didn’t like the EV.
The Volkswagens suck.
Next time, try a Tesla
The inconvenience of charging was the problem, not the brand.
@ understandable if you can’t charge at home/work