Brunson is one of the most humble and admirable superstars in the NBA. (Yeah, I said it, superstar.) Not only does he lay his body on the line taking all those charges every night, but he also just laid his wallet on the line as well for the betterment of the team.
@@Catdaddy836nothing admirable by allowing billionaires to feed you a bunch of BS and you fall for it and take less than what you are worth. He's embarrassing
Brunson is one of a kind. No one is following in his footsteps (except guys in NY). Its hard to match his desire for winning and love for this franchise...We waited 20 yrs for this!!!!
@@user-bi1tn8kl3r Obviously, you aren't a Ws fan. KD helped the Ws a lot with his contracts. Guy went short term + took discounts. 2017 was 25M vs 34.5M max AND it was only a 2 year deal. I'll never slander KD. He was a good Warrior even though it was short term.
KD took less to go to the dubs. Lebron, Dwade & Bosh all took less to team up, Duncan took less consistently. And you had Melo dude. So let's calm down on the Brunson hype. All he did was lead you to the 2nd round.
Yea that’s the reverse case for play another year and get the bag. Isaiah probably lost $120m+. Then there’s Demarcus Cousins who probably lost $200m. Nothing wrong with getting the bag in front of you and playing a long game for an extension in two seasons and extending for another $350m.
It’s more than that. He wants to win a ring, so he’s figured out a way to give the Knicks flexibility to go after players that can help them win. If the Knicks can win a title, Jalen becomes a legend. The endorsements off that one championship will set him up for life.
@@damarioholland4895what are you talking about? 😂 that’s cam Payne market. When sixers had him he got paid less. And they didn’t even bring him back when a backup PG was a need. Granted I would’ve took him over Lowry but Payne didn’t have teams knocking at his door. Where is the precedent
Brunson and his circle of advisers are a different breed. Today’s athletes are money first focused, not team first. The Knicks should benefit moving forward as money destroys the competition!!! 👏🏽👏👏🏼👏🏾
Also we cant overstate what having a stable family has done for this young man. From his parent definitely being in a great economic situation despite Jalens success and their values of working hard. Obviously as well raising him in a two parent household, sending him to college and Villanova at that which is an academic centered institution first and foremost and where he stayed until graduation. That all plays a huge part in this. It gives him that sense of security that money can't buy. Those things are the immeasurables that have also led him to this situation!
Refreshing to see someone who hasn't bought the materialist mantra of the media for the past seventy years. Brunson will now be able to play with his buddies and homies and enjoy and have fun with his run towards a title. Brunson has his priorities correct. Totally opposite of what American media has been drumming into our psyches. Nice to see.
it's a tension between 'win at all costs' vs. 'get your bag.' it can't be both. steph & jokic got the uber-max & their teams can't keep their rosters stocked; tatum & brown will be there in a year; brunson went the other way.
@@greenwavefitness7545 Brunson figured he can live on 159$ million just fine and wants to have a good time with his friends and enjoy making a run for the title. So tired of the vapid materialism in the US where somehow the media have decided that if you don't try to screw everyone out of every nickel you can 7x24 there's something wrong with you. When the reality is there is something seriously wrong with you if you do.
Brunson is still betting on himself while securing another bag. If he leads the Knicks to a championship, he'll be an NBA immortal in NY. That's literally priceless 💯
Playing it safe. If he tore his ACL in thibbs system (highly likely some sort of injury) next season, Knicks can pay him nothing. Taking 4 year max right now is actually smart thing. Clowns who say just based off Derrick rose, also look at luol Deng and joakim Noah. Thibbs ran Noah In the ground and Knicks gave him that huge contract when he was all washed up. Luol Deng nearly died with that spinal tap thing.
Or 😂 instead of the worst case scenario with more personnel he can share the workload and prolong his career. Rose was really in Chicago as a one man scoring machine with a bunch of defensive players. Brunson has Randle, Mikal, and Donte who can all create. Hell even McBride can pop off for 17-20 in a pinch. Plus Brunson is more of a ground game scorer than a highlight reel Derrick Rose game. Knicks biggest issue was losing iHart who helped create from the high post or elbow. Other than that the offense is more shared.
no way. It's one thing to take a cut when you're "the guy" on a major market franchise. I can't imagine a young star in Orlando, or Portland taking a cut to make the team better. Brunson's move makes sense becasue he's in a market where the promo/marketing deals he could land could be more than that contract.
Knicks fkd up not making Hartenstein a priority. They done so good, up until that. I know it was hard, but I'd done everything I could have to moved Robinson. I think he would have resigned for much less to stay. At least 24 mil a year. Not having his tenacity at C, to set screens and pass while also being the most mobile big man in the league. Hartenstein is incredibly underrated and you can't put a value on players like him. I'd rather my Pacers signed him for 43 mil a year over Pascal. That's how much I like Hartenstein. OKC will be an absolute nightmare once Chet bulks up a bit. They honestly need one more creative good shooter.. But they also added Caruso and he's my favorite Combo/defensive guard in the league. They will be an absolute nightmare having that mobile interior big man D who can guard the perimeter and having Caruso/Dort on the outside with Jalen Williams and Shai.. OKC just became my favorite team in basketball.
Brunson is a true leader and team guy. LeBron always saying "I need help" or "I just want to win" then takes the absolute max amount of money he could. Brunson is hopefully setting a precedent for the future.
Crazy to think players get max contacts signing them after they have acl/achilles injuries in the spring knowing they’ll rehab in year 1 of that contract
people keep saying “if he doesn’t win a ring, that paycut is gonna look stupid”. those same people do not understand how contracts work. 1. health isn’t guaranteed.. if brunson (god forbid) has a career altering injury, he would not have received anything. 2. the money he “could’ve got” was never his. you’re never supposed to count money that is not in your possession. he didn’t “lose” $113 million because he never had it to begin with. Let that man make his own decisions. he is the one who is in the NBA making millions.. not us
Brunson is a small guard and traditionally they haven't lasted very well. He's got the bag and now can focus on winning A chip. And it's still possible that come next contract. He'll make it all up anyway
@@clutch7548 yep. But that's elite company. I hope he has another 10 years but alot of players including bigs like Boogie didn't take the bag and then missed out
Lol the whole paycut narrative is a little wild. IT could have signed a huge contract too, but you got to make it through that season. Brunson pulls an ACL next year and all of a sudden he never gets a 156 mill contract offer again
Agreed and he "only" loses 37 million if everything goes great and he gets a huge new deal in 3 years. He locked up life changing money without the slight risk of an IT situation. IT was crazy and brutal I think I remember there were at least rumors he had a 100 mil or close to it offer from Boston but didn't take it. Then ended up on league minimums after that....
No one realizes how good the Naji Marshall signing was for the Mavs. They lost some leak out athleticism. But they gained a stronger defender in the half court and a more well rounded offensive player. His man defense is pretty solid and his I.Q all around is pretty good. I feel his consistency will only raise a bit also being that he's playing with Luka and Kyrie. Getting him will also allow a solid player who can play either the SF in his natural position, or SG when they need even more defense to play for Klay.. Then we gotta mention Klay too, because alone I don't really care as much for that signing. But when you look at everyone, Klay is very important. Because for one it wasn't much to add one of the most prolific scorers the game had seen.. and also you're getting a guy who has already came back down to earth. Who isn't going to cause problems if he has to sit. The Mavs will be even better and this has to be the quickest turn around. And by far the best execution of FA, the Draft and trades, after one of the biggest fumbles in history. I said even after they only had gotten Kyrie and Lively to not sleep on the Mavs.. and I was right. They've been coming out swingin ever since.
At the beginning of trade talks for Markkanen, I heard Wiggins might be traded to another team to get more/better draft picks for the Jazz in addition to players and other picks. That was early on though. Haven't heard anything about that lately.
Short answer, no. Brunson is a unique MVP caliber player. As others mentioned, this deal sets him up for life and avoids a potential Isaiah Thomas situation. For most supermax type players there is little risk of losing the bag, even if they do get a serious injury. For 6 foot second round picks, one serious leg injury could take all those max deals right off the table. Not saying nobody will ever do it, but it was a unique situation. It is not going to be the norm for millionaire hoopers to go out of their way to save billionaires a few bucks. It is still a union, after all. Most players see it as their duty to get the most money for their services.
As a Blazer fan, I have a much bigger appetite to seem them lose for a couple more years than see them resign Ayton and Simons and top out as nothing more than a 2nd exit at best. I would definitely be in favor of a Simons for Cole Anthony and Anthony Black trade. Black is a decent prospect and Cole allows them to potentially pivot away from Scoot if his ceiling isn’t as high as initially thought. Can’t wait to see Grant, Ayton and Simons sit out the last 20 games with “injuries”…
I believe it will help if the Knicks have a lot more success this year. I'd like to think it would set a precedence for some. Especially older Superstars. But unfortunately we all know greed is very strong amongst people and tomorrow is never promised. So it would most definitely have to be guy's who are confident in their ability to resign for more money in the future. It will also have to be guy's who have already had at least one max of 4 to 5 year's prior, or close to it. I doubt any great up and coming Star player would take a pay cut in their first contract. We all know many "Stars" who should because of money made already, or simply because they aren't worth that much.. Do you actually care about winning and the franchises future, or does the money itself mean that much to you?? That will have to be what both player's and organizations ask themselves in the future. Much more so than in previous year's. You make the wrong "Star" signings now in this era and your team is screwed.. Like my Pacers done with the crappy Pascal contract.. smdh... They have an owner who most likely not want to pay the tax ever.. so why pretend like you want to get better.. Pascal was not the guy and a panic trade. Had they waited, they'd gotten OG anyways. Or could have gotten Hartenstein and a couple of guy's like a Naji Marshall and a De'Anthony Melton. Then added Terrance Shannon Jr., JaKobe Walter and Jaylen Wells. They'd been much better off... I'd then took a gamble and traded Nembhard for Caruso.. Or at least someone. They'd had a very bright future had they made those moves..
No, it doesn't. A superstar would be able to set this precedent, not Jalen, this is just a savvy move by an above average starting guard and a smart front office.
He’s gonna have to have a mighty fast to lose money. I can’t recall too many guards that have fallen off a cliff at 31 outside of maybe Isaiah Thomas and his more to do with playing on an injury making it worse.
I'm just starting the podcast but will already answer the question. Absolutely not. He (Brunson) may not be the only one who takes a pay cut but there's no way in heck this sets a precedent and becomes a standard.
Coming from a life long Trailblazers fan of 47 years, our 3 guards Simons Sharpe and Scoot never learned the nuances of playing winning basketball. Scoot can’t shoot Simons is an undersized 2 playing point and Sharpe has talent but sub par IQ. Yikes!!
Absolutely not... most players care more about money than winning. Michael Jordan took pay cuts his entire career, that did not set a precedent back then, LBJ took pay cuts for his super teams, JB doing this won't set one now. Just shows he cares more about winning right now. The money will come
@@ouli4586 The extension adds another $150m on top of this season and the past two. He’s probably closer to $225m in salary from the Knicks. Not including any brand endorsements. His great grandkids would have to be on Jamarcus Russell level of mismanagement to blow all that money.
The warriors have to trade wiggins slalary wise now for lauri cause they signed guys post klay...with klay and now after signing 2 new guys they can't trade for lauri without matching salary cause they are a first apron team...they had a few days post klay where they could of kept wiggins traded 3 young guys and 2 future picks maybe 4 young guys 1 pick 2 young guys 3 picks and a swap or another 2nd for lauri and still keep wiggins so they could become a first apron team but then they don't get 2 of the 3 of buddy kyle and melton...and even 1 of them puts them close to the 2nd apron then with no depth...they coulf get 2 maybe if they went past the 2nd apron and someone took a little less
you are way off base. the knicks are in a 7 game series with indiana down 3 starters the entire series 4 if you count the injuries during it. how in the hell do they have a real shot to win 4 games vs t he celtics?
@@colinedelman6392 yeah, i did. i understand that they did what they did without haliburton. they also didn't have porzingis. pacers blew two winnable games. celtics chilled, like they usually do and let go of games in head scratching manner for large swathes of time. they do the same thing in the finals. 4-1. that's more the celtics losing it than the pacers winning it. regardless of if you agree/disagree with that assessment, it's 4-0. i think it's major copium if you think celtics don't have a higher notch than what they showed that series. and you are incredibly biased if you think the knicks don't have a chance, at least over the pacers. they are 1 game/3 starters down from making the same progress. josh hart is a backup playing 40m+ while injured towards the tail end of that series. that's how short handed they were. this year they literally have 3 all-defensive caliber players.
@@nanaapple8100 lmaoooo, the Knicks are ok. That’s it. They’re not even getting 15 points close off of Boston, no depth and no offense to speak of. You clearly don’t understand how much better the young pacers will be next season. Going from 10 to 12 deep also. I see only Boston and Orlando as threats. And with your centers being Mitch 6 games a year and who else? We gone have fun. Indy owned Milwaukee and New York in the regular season and playoffs. Gone be the same next year.
@@colinedelman6392 no depth or offense. their depth is what played those playoffs series in the first place. have you heard of these things called i n j u r i e s? meaning they're not playing their best players. they're playing off their others guys who happen to be backups, who were also injured. i keep repeating it because it seems you refuse to acknowledge that that wasn't even their regular team construction. this as opposed to indiana and orlando who were nearly fully healthy. if you're trying to say they have no depth at specifically the 5 pos. you are right, but that's not what you're conveying. there's also midseason trades? which make way more sense than getting a center preseason in a dwindling market? they were #2 in off. rating in the playoffs only to indiana. what are you on about with the offense? i think indiana is a great team, but you're "clearly" overestimating them compared to the competition. good series, and even considering the leaps that young guys make, it's not 7 games we're talking when health is a little closer. that's just distillable fact. regardless, keep that same energy please. draftkings opening win totals: celtics: 57.5 -- philly/knicks: 51.5 -- orlando/pacers 47.5/45.5 GL
It’s always funny to me how NBA media deeply cares about precedents for pay cuts that players maybe shouldn’t have to take, but they also, generally, lean very hard towards “tax billionaires out of existence” but then sympathize with people making 100million+ to play bball. Maybe Lowe specifically doesn’t, but the industry does.
A bad analogy the warriors already won without KD the cap spiked and yes they had space because currys 44mil deal where they were more than willing to trade him for bogut because of his ankle issues his value was nothing then like it became.
I support players getting paid as much as they can but nba will pay %50 to the players so it's better for roll players there will be more money to them, if brunson wins he will more than make up in other revenues. That's a risk worth taking.
Brunson may be marketable in NYC or Philly, but he isn't $170M marketable. He's not getting that kinda of loot in endorsements. Should've taken the money. Dolan got the team snookered, no other players around the league is giving a team discount hahaha
where are you even coming up with that number? he's losing $37m over the next 3 years or about $12.3m per year. the last year is a player option which he'll obviously decline. the idea is to get him to the 10 year mark and he can sign a salary as a % of the max. the cap is raising 8-10% per year. possibly more because the new TV deal is kicking in next year. that means that hypothetically if he's playing at this same level in 2-3 years he can sign another extension worth 35% of the max. it could be a proper 4-5 years which would recoup a large chunk of whatever he's taking a pay cut signing for now. and all that is not counting whatever the hell else he has access to for being a G in new york. unless you're a financial advisor to some really rich people, it really doesn't make sense to count player's money for them. to him he is taking the money, but also betting on himself and helping the team get as good as it can be.
He literally took the maximum amount of money he could sign for this year. While unlikely an IT situation could happen with a bad injury. He locked up generational money.
Are the owners taking pay cuts. No. Are they cutting ticket costs. No. Are they giving away free basketball games without some form of cable, internet or the combination of both. Once a week at best and twice on xmas. So No. Did they take less money to keep a 30year bball fans staple 'Inside the NBA' . NO. So why should the players take less.
If he didn’t take a pay cut then one of his 3 best friends won’t be able to get paid from the Knicks……..I thought that was obvious. That’s the reason why the Knicks overpaid for Bridges.
They would have paid him, but that’s the union’s cap rules. That’s all part of union labor contract negotiations. If there was no cap Brunson would get a baseball contract. 10 years 400 million 😅😂
the way everyone is talking about Lauri Markannen this year is how they talked about Robert Covington before he went to the rockets that one year. He's not that good.
This paycut salary its a little bit overhyped, because no nba player gets over 60M000000/year ! In 2 years ! And jaylen gets in his 1st year 62 or more Come on ! Its only because of fame nothing else !
How some other fans dumb enough to come at the knicks for something your star players and role players wont do. He getting mad endorsement and is top 3 PG right now. Money will come either way. Sorry you mad knicks getting better instead of worse 😂😂😂
Toronto Raptors should NEVER be grouped in with those teams. The Raptors has a clear future & it is clear what they are doing. They are building around Scottie with a good young core. Both IQ, RJ & Yak are good player. Gradey will be better next season. The bench is starting to take shape with a mix of vets, young players & intriguing rookies Masai just drafted.
@@uthamanjExcuse me? Raptors had a year filled with changes & injuries. Trades with OG, then Siakam, then trades at TD, injuries to key players Scottie & Yak thereafter resulting in the team purposely tanking. This is the 1st full yr of the team rebuild who actually has a solid core+ veterans not typical of rebuilding tms. Orlando, Spurs & Detroit has had 5 yrs minimum of rebuilds. Raptors imo is in a much better position than Spurs, Houston, etc. You will see it this season. Fans of other tms are just hoping to see us down but I assure you as long as Masai is at the helm of this franchise I ain't have nothing to worry about. We had a 7 straight yrs of playoffs since is arrival in 2013 & outside of last season & the Tampa tank has never had a losing season since he got here.
Does anyone who isn’t working for a team or covering teams actually care about all this first apron second apron talk??? Like I really don’t effing care and I find all of this talk confusing and boring. I’m starting to just start to tune out. I get talking about what teams are able to do based on these factors, but I really think podcasts host should consider the entertainment value of getting into the weeds of these talks. This is ultimately a basketball entertainment product and all this apron talk is killing my interest..
Brunson taking a pay cut won’t set a precedent, it will serve as a lesson. Ain’t nobody in BOS taking a pay cut. And you still can’t beat em. In 5 years, nobody will care about that pay cut. Ask Scottie Pippen what his pay cut got him 😂
@@clutch7548 Realistically, this is could Brunson’s last contract. Guys his size don’t play past 35. At best he has one more contract at a very reduced role. James Dolan is worth over $2B and he can work until the day he dies. He ain’t taking a pay cut. Brunson is giving up millions that he will never be able to make back for an organization that makes money whether the Knicks win or lose. It’s dumb AF no matter how you look at it.
Boston will have to trade 1 of their guys after next season or they will be paying the largest luxury tax bill in the history of the nba. Probably while they are trying to sell the team now 🤣
That math is bs because the owners can overspend the cap etc so they can actually spend more money than the amount allocated so both role player and star can get paid it just costs the owners a lot.
@clutch7548 yes they can.. They pay the same luxury tax as golden state did but in the second apron it limits trades and after 2 years your pick goes to the end of the round but if you already have the team set up that should not matter.
If we start the season with Wiggins on the roster, we're screwed. The flashes of 2022 Wiggins over the past two seasons is not enough to convince me that guy still exists. He looks absolutely crushed by life and, in my opinion, is a massive liability because of it. It almost doesn't make a difference what else happens this offseason if we have to rely on Wiggins' 45% motor.
Knicks needs is Bench Dog's like the Starters so if they want a Chip or get close to a Chip get Bench Help Every Team that Won a Chip had Dog's on the Benches ask the last 5 Championship Team's 😂😂😂
@@euraniajimenezjimenez7550 bruh McBride avg 11/2/2 off the bench on 43/37/86 shooting splits in the postseason. You completing ignoring or omitting his numbers for whatever reasons. He can go off for 20 in a post season game and give the Knicks great perimeter defense. You probably never heard of him or never watched him.
Dude I've been watching Knicks games before you was Born I know who they got and what they Never going to do and that's Win a Title Fact's ok NBA Fan of the Crying Knicks in Since 1973 last title 😂😂😂.
@@euraniajimenezjimenez7550 bruh you def not a Knicks fan quitting before the season even begins. Celtics ain’t even got KP until December at the earliest or January. There’s no telling what condition he’s in by the playoffs. Then to completely omit McBride. Ok.
Did anyone on the Celtics take a pay cut???? If the Celtics could build their team without having their star player give up $100m, why couldn't the New York Knicks?? Jalen Brunson is a joke.
Knicks have Divencenzo off the bench, Josh Hart off the bench & cheap McBride off the bench. Deeper than Boston Use your tiny brain. Hes keeping those guys on the team
Horford Hauser Kornet are free agents after next season no one on the third string makes any real money or plays they just signed Tillman after trading for him and Hauser is on an incredible contract since last year Kornet is under paid and the Tatum max starts in 2025 same for White...Brown just finally got a full max this season...Kp is only signed 2 more years at a fine amount for a starter who can get 20 and 9 any game...you clearly don't get that they also just signed Jrue this year so his big deal starts next season....Pritchard is a little under paid too right now....
@@razkable They have built a championship team without anyone taking a pay cut. I’m not sure what point you’re making. Knicks could have done the same, without a gift from Jalen Brunson.
I honestly pray the FO wouldn't do that to him, Jalen deserves the best he's a class act raised the right way, smart, and tough as nails gotta love this squad!
@@clutch7548 that's what I mean and Thibs has known him his entire life and the rest of the connections he has in the organization it just seems like they SHOULD do the right thing if Dolan doesn't my lifelong fandom will be bruised ngl
@@clutch7548 that's a solid point fam I totally forgot about the Klay deal honestly he's tough though I see the Knicks doing the same with Jalen even if eventually injuried due to his playing through previous injuries like injury restitution lol
Just because you are eligible for a super max doesn’t mean you’re deserving of one. This idea that Franz Wagner or OG Anonuby deserve 220 million is absolutely ridiculous
I love how this podcast actually talks about different teams it’s so refreshing
Brunson is one of the most humble and admirable superstars in the NBA. (Yeah, I said it, superstar.) Not only does he lay his body on the line taking all those charges every night, but he also just laid his wallet on the line as well for the betterment of the team.
It worked for Brady!
hes gonna look stupid when the knicks dont win and start "rebuilding" with him still on the roster
@@Catdaddy836They always trick these young guys into taking discounts.
@@Catdaddy836nothing admirable by allowing billionaires to feed you a bunch of BS and you fall for it and take less than what you are worth. He's embarrassing
@@RUTHLESSambition5 100% facts here
Brunson is one of a kind. No one is following in his footsteps (except guys in NY). Its hard to match his desire for winning and love for this franchise...We waited 20 yrs for this!!!!
KD gave up way more money. Have to do percent and not net numbers due to cap increases.
Tim Duncan as well.
If they win a chip yes
@@HKim0072when did kd take less
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@@user-bi1tn8kl3r Obviously, you aren't a Ws fan. KD helped the Ws a lot with his contracts. Guy went short term + took discounts. 2017 was 25M vs 34.5M max AND it was only a 2 year deal.
I'll never slander KD. He was a good Warrior even though it was short term.
KD took less to go to the dubs. Lebron, Dwade & Bosh all took less to team up, Duncan took less consistently. And you had Melo dude. So let's calm down on the Brunson hype. All he did was lead you to the 2nd round.
You can’t blame him. He wants his guaranteed money to protect himself. Look at Isiaih Thomas . He got injured and never got paid .
Facts
Yea that’s the reverse case for play another year and get the bag. Isaiah probably lost $120m+. Then there’s Demarcus Cousins who probably lost $200m. Nothing wrong with getting the bag in front of you and playing a long game for an extension in two seasons and extending for another $350m.
Yup he gets security against an injury in next 12 months and sets himself up to sign the 80M per year deal in 2028 to make up virtually all the money.
It’s more than that. He wants to win a ring, so he’s figured out a way to give the Knicks flexibility to go after players that can help them win.
If the Knicks can win a title, Jalen becomes a legend. The endorsements off that one championship will set him up for life.
Brunson will gain money elsewhere. He can market whatever brand he has here, if they can stay healthy this team has a real legitimate shot
Will definitely not set a precedent
Unless owners collude, couldn't have said it better myself
Just got cam Payne on a one year it's already setting a precedent.... my team gave AD 73 million next couple years 😢
@@damarioholland4895what are you talking about? 😂 that’s cam Payne market. When sixers had him he got paid less. And they didn’t even bring him back when a backup PG was a need. Granted I would’ve took him over Lowry but Payne didn’t have teams knocking at his door. Where is the precedent
Brunson and his circle of advisers are a different breed. Today’s athletes are money first focused, not team first. The Knicks should benefit moving forward as money destroys the competition!!! 👏🏽👏👏🏼👏🏾
Also we cant overstate what having a stable family has done for this young man. From his parent definitely being in a great economic situation despite Jalens success and their values of working hard. Obviously as well raising him in a two parent household, sending him to college and Villanova at that which is an academic centered institution first and foremost and where he stayed until graduation. That all plays a huge part in this. It gives him that sense of security that money can't buy. Those things are the immeasurables that have also led him to this situation!
Thibs "you guys start you guys finish" 😂
All that 🧀 given back and no chip would be tough 😮
We don't talk about Bruno homie
It’s either your stupid or greedy
Brunson just got paid, bruh. He good. Everything's not about trying to get every dollar
@@edwarddavis9343 sthu bruh
As a limited shooter Julius put a better TS% than the #2 option on the championship Celtics
Yeah how does he do in the playoffs
@@pimpnamedslickback7780 similarly to Jayson Tatum
Refreshing to see someone who hasn't bought the materialist mantra of the media for the past seventy years.
Brunson will now be able to play with his buddies and homies and enjoy and have fun with his run towards a title.
Brunson has his priorities correct. Totally opposite of what American media has been drumming into our psyches. Nice to see.
it's a tension between 'win at all costs' vs. 'get your bag.' it can't be both. steph & jokic got the uber-max & their teams can't keep their rosters stocked; tatum & brown will be there in a year; brunson went the other way.
@@greenwavefitness7545 Brunson figured he can live on 159$ million just fine and wants to have a good time with his friends and enjoy making a run for the title. So tired of the vapid materialism in the US where somehow the media have decided that if you don't try to screw everyone out of every nickel you can 7x24 there's something wrong with you. When the reality is there is something seriously wrong with you if you do.
First time listener, A lot of great content. Earned a sub
"Knicks on Celtics heels like a pair of fresh church socks" 😂
Ok big perk ok!!!
Masterclass of a pod Zach and Kp , helped me crush my commute to start the day!! Preciate yall!
Brunson is still betting on himself while securing another bag. If he leads the Knicks to a championship, he'll be an NBA immortal in NY. That's literally priceless 💯
Silly!
@@1YogaboyHes sitting on over 200 mil in career guaranteed money. Hes doing fine. And only 27
Playing it safe. If he tore his ACL in thibbs system (highly likely some sort of injury) next season, Knicks can pay him nothing. Taking 4 year max right now is actually smart thing. Clowns who say just based off Derrick rose, also look at luol Deng and joakim Noah. Thibbs ran Noah In the ground and Knicks gave him that huge contract when he was all washed up. Luol Deng nearly died with that spinal tap thing.
Or 😂 instead of the worst case scenario with more personnel he can share the workload and prolong his career. Rose was really in Chicago as a one man scoring machine with a bunch of defensive players. Brunson has Randle, Mikal, and Donte who can all create. Hell even McBride can pop off for 17-20 in a pinch. Plus Brunson is more of a ground game scorer than a highlight reel Derrick Rose game. Knicks biggest issue was losing iHart who helped create from the high post or elbow. Other than that the offense is more shared.
Brunson is the exception and it will stay that way. Most people gonna have their priorities straight as far as finances.
Malik Monk took a paycut before bunson and this was monks first big bag. there will be more and more who take a pay cut but not most.
Lmao then they will sacrifice players… Its a fact the cap is way more restricted now. Look up the Aprons.
2010 lebron and wade set the precedent...kd followed...now brunson
no way. It's one thing to take a cut when you're "the guy" on a major market franchise. I can't imagine a young star in Orlando, or Portland taking a cut to make the team better. Brunson's move makes sense becasue he's in a market where the promo/marketing deals he could land could be more than that contract.
Knicks fkd up not making Hartenstein a priority. They done so good, up until that. I know it was hard, but I'd done everything I could have to moved Robinson. I think he would have resigned for much less to stay. At least 24 mil a year. Not having his tenacity at C, to set screens and pass while also being the most mobile big man in the league. Hartenstein is incredibly underrated and you can't put a value on players like him. I'd rather my Pacers signed him for 43 mil a year over Pascal. That's how much I like Hartenstein. OKC will be an absolute nightmare once Chet bulks up a bit. They honestly need one more creative good shooter.. But they also added Caruso and he's my favorite Combo/defensive guard in the league. They will be an absolute nightmare having that mobile interior big man D who can guard the perimeter and having Caruso/Dort on the outside with Jalen Williams and Shai.. OKC just became my favorite team in basketball.
Brunson is a true leader and team guy. LeBron always saying "I need help" or "I just want to win" then takes the absolute max amount of money he could. Brunson is hopefully setting a precedent for the future.
Mentioning bron without reason lmao
Crazy to think players get max contacts signing them after they have acl/achilles injuries in the spring knowing they’ll rehab in year 1 of that contract
IT and cousins are examples it doesn't happen everytime though...
people keep saying “if he doesn’t win a ring, that paycut is gonna look stupid”.
those same people do not understand how contracts work.
1. health isn’t guaranteed.. if brunson (god forbid) has a career altering injury, he would not have received anything.
2. the money he “could’ve got” was never his. you’re never supposed to count money that is not in your possession. he didn’t “lose” $113 million because he never had it to begin with.
Let that man make his own decisions. he is the one who is in the NBA making millions.. not us
Brunson is a small guard and traditionally they haven't lasted very well. He's got the bag and now can focus on winning A chip. And it's still possible that come next contract. He'll make it all up anyway
Hes 6’2 without shoes. Nash, Curry, Andre Miller. Long careers
@@clutch7548 yep. But that's elite company. I hope he has another 10 years but alot of players including bigs like Boogie didn't take the bag and then missed out
Lol the whole paycut narrative is a little wild.
IT could have signed a huge contract too, but you got to make it through that season. Brunson pulls an ACL next year and all of a sudden he never gets a 156 mill contract offer again
Agreed and he "only" loses 37 million if everything goes great and he gets a huge new deal in 3 years.
He locked up life changing money without the slight risk of an IT situation.
IT was crazy and brutal I think I remember there were at least rumors he had a 100 mil or close to it offer from Boston but didn't take it. Then ended up on league minimums after that....
No one realizes how good the Naji Marshall signing was for the Mavs. They lost some leak out athleticism. But they gained a stronger defender in the half court and a more well rounded offensive player. His man defense is pretty solid and his I.Q all around is pretty good. I feel his consistency will only raise a bit also being that he's playing with Luka and Kyrie. Getting him will also allow a solid player who can play either the SF in his natural position, or SG when they need even more defense to play for Klay.. Then we gotta mention Klay too, because alone I don't really care as much for that signing. But when you look at everyone, Klay is very important. Because for one it wasn't much to add one of the most prolific scorers the game had seen.. and also you're getting a guy who has already came back down to earth. Who isn't going to cause problems if he has to sit. The Mavs will be even better and this has to be the quickest turn around. And by far the best execution of FA, the Draft and trades, after one of the biggest fumbles in history. I said even after they only had gotten Kyrie and Lively to not sleep on the Mavs.. and I was right. They've been coming out swingin ever since.
At the beginning of trade talks for Markkanen, I heard Wiggins might be traded to another team to get more/better draft picks for the Jazz in addition to players and other picks. That was early on though. Haven't heard anything about that lately.
LMAO Lowe has no conscience, he just talks and talks and talks while the guest just sits there.
$$$ structure in the league doesn't make sense and it's not sustainable
Short answer, no. Brunson is a unique MVP caliber player. As others mentioned, this deal sets him up for life and avoids a potential Isaiah Thomas situation. For most supermax type players there is little risk of losing the bag, even if they do get a serious injury. For 6 foot second round picks, one serious leg injury could take all those max deals right off the table.
Not saying nobody will ever do it, but it was a unique situation. It is not going to be the norm for millionaire hoopers to go out of their way to save billionaires a few bucks. It is still a union, after all. Most players see it as their duty to get the most money for their services.
Spurs should've never traded Dillingham
As a Blazer fan, I have a much bigger appetite to seem them lose for a couple more years than see them resign Ayton and Simons and top out as nothing more than a 2nd exit at best.
I would definitely be in favor of a Simons for Cole Anthony and Anthony Black trade. Black is a decent prospect and Cole allows them to potentially pivot away from Scoot if his ceiling isn’t as high as initially thought.
Can’t wait to see Grant, Ayton and Simons sit out the last 20 games with “injuries”…
I’m sure Nikes contract with Jalen is not too shabby
153M still a lot of money but after taxes in NYC it’s like 100m lol
Everyone wants to credit Lebron for taking less. Dude took 2 MILLION less, wow what a discount. Brunson is goated forever in Gotham.
With this deal, Brunson is also betting on them winning a chip and getting massive sponsorship deals from that (because he'd likely be FMVP).
started out with Malik taking a cut, then bunson, i think more players will start taking paycuts but not all.
Draymond wasnt a max player he was close but thats why he didnt get the max
The type of bond Brunson is building with this fanbase will make him a billionaire despite the nba contracts. This is "that" guy for NYC.
What if all the Nova Knicks do this so that can play together for the rest of their careers. work is a lot more fun with people you like
Mikal bridges can score he gonna fit good on Knicks
Dirk did it first
Bro, too young to get pay cut 😢
3 years under Thibs 🤷🏽
I believe it will help if the Knicks have a lot more success this year. I'd like to think it would set a precedence for some. Especially older Superstars. But unfortunately we all know greed is very strong amongst people and tomorrow is never promised. So it would most definitely have to be guy's who are confident in their ability to resign for more money in the future. It will also have to be guy's who have already had at least one max of 4 to 5 year's prior, or close to it. I doubt any great up and coming Star player would take a pay cut in their first contract. We all know many "Stars" who should because of money made already, or simply because they aren't worth that much.. Do you actually care about winning and the franchises future, or does the money itself mean that much to you?? That will have to be what both player's and organizations ask themselves in the future. Much more so than in previous year's. You make the wrong "Star" signings now in this era and your team is screwed.. Like my Pacers done with the crappy Pascal contract.. smdh... They have an owner who most likely not want to pay the tax ever.. so why pretend like you want to get better.. Pascal was not the guy and a panic trade. Had they waited, they'd gotten OG anyways. Or could have gotten Hartenstein and a couple of guy's like a Naji Marshall and a De'Anthony Melton. Then added Terrance Shannon Jr., JaKobe Walter and Jaylen Wells. They'd been much better off... I'd then took a gamble and traded Nembhard for Caruso.. Or at least someone. They'd had a very bright future had they made those moves..
No, it doesn't. A superstar would be able to set this precedent, not Jalen, this is just a savvy move by an above average starting guard and a smart front office.
I think Bridges does the same for the power of friendship but don’t think it will set any precedent at all for the league.
What if he isnt that good anymore? He's a small guard and historically they recede quick
He’s gonna have to have a mighty fast to lose money. I can’t recall too many guards that have fallen off a cliff at 31 outside of maybe Isaiah Thomas and his more to do with playing on an injury making it worse.
Curry is only half an inch taller & lasted fine. Brunson doesnt rely on athleticism. Footwork, strength & skill
He will never win a ring with NY so get your 💰 young fella 💪
He's eligible for a super max in 2 seasons 😂 $300M+
It won’t be a precedent. Tom Brady took less money for years and never stopped all these QBs and even average ones from getting big pay days.
The funniest NBA podcast intro and logo 😂
I'm just starting the podcast but will already answer the question. Absolutely not. He (Brunson) may not be the only one who takes a pay cut but there's no way in heck this sets a precedent and becomes a standard.
Blazers haven't tried to be good in well over 5 years, crazy. i thought only the sixers "process"
Pistons are the new Process
Playing for thibs I don’t blame him
Brunson averaged 35 minutes per game. Not top 20 in the league. Josh Hart 33 mins
Coming from a life long Trailblazers fan of 47 years, our 3 guards Simons Sharpe and Scoot never learned the nuances of playing winning basketball. Scoot can’t shoot Simons is an undersized 2 playing point and Sharpe has talent but sub par IQ. Yikes!!
Absolutely not... most players care more about money than winning. Michael Jordan took pay cuts his entire career, that did not set a precedent back then, LBJ took pay cuts for his super teams, JB doing this won't set one now. Just shows he cares more about winning right now. The money will come
Brunson said screw my great grand kids!
LOL!! Grandkids could be complete jerks.
You think he’s gunna spend all 150 million by that time. lol!
@@ouli4586 The extension adds another $150m on top of this season and the past two. He’s probably closer to $225m in salary from the Knicks. Not including any brand endorsements. His great grandkids would have to be on Jamarcus Russell level of mismanagement to blow all that money.
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Not too smart
money is stronger. no one else will do that
The warriors have to trade wiggins slalary wise now for lauri cause they signed guys post klay...with klay and now after signing 2 new guys they can't trade for lauri without matching salary cause they are a first apron team...they had a few days post klay where they could of kept wiggins traded 3 young guys and 2 future picks maybe 4 young guys 1 pick 2 young guys 3 picks and a swap or another 2nd for lauri and still keep wiggins so they could become a first apron team but then they don't get 2 of the 3 of buddy kyle and melton...and even 1 of them puts them close to the 2nd apron then with no depth...they coulf get 2 maybe if they went past the 2nd apron and someone took a little less
I have Orlando as the only defensive juggernaut beating Boston. Indy is the only team I think have a real shot also.
you are way off base. the knicks are in a 7 game series with indiana down 3 starters the entire series 4 if you count the injuries during it. how in the hell do they have a real shot to win 4 games vs t he celtics?
@@nanaapple8100 you clearly didn’t watch the Pacers vs Celtics. Clearly didn’t.
@@colinedelman6392 yeah, i did. i understand that they did what they did without haliburton. they also didn't have porzingis. pacers blew two winnable games. celtics chilled, like they usually do and let go of games in head scratching manner for large swathes of time. they do the same thing in the finals. 4-1.
that's more the celtics losing it than the pacers winning it. regardless of if you agree/disagree with that assessment, it's 4-0. i think it's major copium if you think celtics don't have a higher notch than what they showed that series.
and you are incredibly biased if you think the knicks don't have a chance, at least over the pacers. they are 1 game/3 starters down from making the same progress. josh hart is a backup playing 40m+ while injured towards the tail end of that series. that's how short handed they were.
this year they literally have 3 all-defensive caliber players.
@@nanaapple8100 lmaoooo, the Knicks are ok. That’s it. They’re not even getting 15 points close off of Boston, no depth and no offense to speak of.
You clearly don’t understand how much better the young pacers will be next season. Going from 10 to 12 deep also.
I see only Boston and Orlando as threats. And with your centers being Mitch 6 games a year and who else? We gone have fun.
Indy owned Milwaukee and New York in the regular season and playoffs. Gone be the same next year.
@@colinedelman6392
no depth or offense. their depth is what played those playoffs series in the first place. have you heard of these things called i n j u r i e s? meaning they're not playing their best players. they're playing off their others guys who happen to be backups, who were also injured. i keep repeating it because it seems you refuse to acknowledge that that wasn't even their regular team construction.
this as opposed to indiana and orlando who were nearly fully healthy.
if you're trying to say they have no depth at specifically the 5 pos. you are right, but that's not what you're conveying. there's also midseason trades? which make way more sense than getting a center preseason in a dwindling market?
they were #2 in off. rating in the playoffs only to indiana. what are you on about with the offense?
i think indiana is a great team, but you're "clearly" overestimating them compared to the competition. good series, and even considering the leaps that young guys make, it's not 7 games we're talking when health is a little closer. that's just distillable fact. regardless, keep that same energy please.
draftkings opening win totals:
celtics: 57.5 --
philly/knicks: 51.5 --
orlando/pacers 47.5/45.5
GL
It’s always funny to me how NBA media deeply cares about precedents for pay cuts that players maybe shouldn’t have to take,
but they also, generally, lean very hard towards “tax billionaires out of existence” but then sympathize with people making 100million+ to play bball. Maybe Lowe specifically doesn’t, but the industry does.
Brunson > dame
A bad analogy the warriors already won without KD the cap spiked and yes they had space because currys 44mil deal where they were more than willing to trade him for bogut because of his ankle issues his value was nothing then like it became.
I support players getting paid as much as they can but nba will pay %50 to the players so it's better for roll players there will be more money to them, if brunson wins he will more than make up in other revenues. That's a risk worth taking.
Brunson may be marketable in NYC or Philly, but he isn't $170M marketable. He's not getting that kinda of loot in endorsements. Should've taken the money. Dolan got the team snookered, no other players around the league is giving a team discount hahaha
where are you even coming up with that number? he's losing $37m over the next 3 years or about $12.3m per year. the last year is a player option which he'll obviously decline.
the idea is to get him to the 10 year mark and he can sign a salary as a % of the max. the cap is raising 8-10% per year. possibly more because the new TV deal is kicking in next year.
that means that hypothetically if he's playing at this same level in 2-3 years he can sign another extension worth 35% of the max. it could be a proper 4-5 years which would recoup a large chunk of whatever he's taking a pay cut signing for now.
and all that is not counting whatever the hell else he has access to for being a G in new york. unless you're a financial advisor to some really rich people, it really doesn't make sense to count player's money for them. to him he is taking the money, but also betting on himself and helping the team get as good as it can be.
He literally took the maximum amount of money he could sign for this year. While unlikely an IT situation could happen with a bad injury.
He locked up generational money.
Rah…K Pelt movin a bit greedy with the b2b pods 😅
It only works if the Knicks win a title eventually
Ummmm, Tim Duncan anyone!?
Are the owners taking pay cuts. No. Are they cutting ticket costs. No. Are they giving away free basketball games without some form of cable, internet or the combination of both. Once a week at best and twice on xmas. So No. Did they take less money to keep a 30year bball fans staple 'Inside the NBA' . NO. So why should the players take less.
Yea in Charlotte Utah and Detroit giving away shid my team 2nd apron they definitely not giving us nothing back😮
If he didn’t take a pay cut then one of his 3 best friends won’t be able to get paid from the Knicks……..I thought that was obvious. That’s the reason why the Knicks overpaid for Bridges.
The real beneficiary's will be the fans. They can keep their talent on the team instead of losing them.
They would have paid him, but that’s the union’s cap rules. That’s all part of union labor contract negotiations. If there was no cap Brunson would get a baseball contract. 10 years 400 million 😅😂
the way everyone is talking about Lauri Markannen this year is how they talked about Robert Covington before he went to the rockets that one year. He's not that good.
Markannen has been an ALLSTAR you casual
This paycut salary its a little bit overhyped, because no nba player gets over 60M000000/year ! In 2 years ! And jaylen gets in his 1st year 62 or more Come on ! Its only because of fame nothing else !
Kevin Pelton is a Raptors hater
From what? Not waiting another year?
Never give up your worth
Ya keep talking about the knicks for views we don't want ya opinion Lowe we don't want nothing from espn
Hornets need to practice 3 times a day they players got to much free time 😂😂
Brunson played himself but all he need is 1 championship & he will get all that & way more so hey bet on yourself
Get the big reward
How some other fans dumb enough to come at the knicks for something your star players and role players wont do. He getting mad endorsement and is top 3 PG right now. Money will come either way. Sorry you mad knicks getting better instead of worse 😂😂😂
Brunson is overhyped as everything in NYC. his salary is very ok, he is not super star
Will Brunson Be The New President?
Time to move on from mitchell robinson every season he out for the rest of the season 😂 get zubac or something im tired of him on my clippers 😂😂
Toronto Raptors should NEVER be grouped in with those teams. The Raptors has a clear future & it is clear what they are doing. They are building around Scottie with a good young core. Both IQ, RJ & Yak are good player. Gradey will be better next season. The bench is starting to take shape with a mix of vets, young players & intriguing rookies Masai just drafted.
The Raptors are NOT that much better, if at all, than those other teams.
@@uthamanjExcuse me? Raptors had a year filled with changes & injuries. Trades with OG, then Siakam, then trades at TD, injuries to key players Scottie & Yak thereafter resulting in the team purposely tanking. This is the 1st full yr of the team rebuild who actually has a solid core+ veterans not typical of rebuilding tms. Orlando, Spurs & Detroit has had 5 yrs minimum of rebuilds. Raptors imo is in a much better position than Spurs, Houston, etc. You will see it this season. Fans of other tms are just hoping to see us down but I assure you as long as Masai is at the helm of this franchise I ain't have nothing to worry about. We had a 7 straight yrs of playoffs since is arrival in 2013 & outside of last season & the Tampa tank has never had a losing season since he got here.
Who would not want less responsibility of losing to the celtics maybe they tank for cooper flag
Knicks acting like the won it already
Does anyone who isn’t working for a team or covering teams actually care about all this first apron second apron talk??? Like I really don’t effing care and I find all of this talk confusing and boring. I’m starting to just start to tune out.
I get talking about what teams are able to do based on these factors, but I really think podcasts host should consider the entertainment value of getting into the weeds of these talks. This is ultimately a basketball entertainment product and all this apron talk is killing my interest..
depends on the podcast. lowe, windy etc the hoop nerds are always gonna be in the weeds thats their lane
Nope
Brunson taking a pay cut won’t set a precedent, it will serve as a lesson.
Ain’t nobody in BOS taking a pay cut. And you still can’t beat em.
In 5 years, nobody will care about that pay cut.
Ask Scottie Pippen what his pay cut got him 😂
Comparing Scotties weak contract to Brunson having made over 200 million in his career already
@@clutch7548 Realistically, this is could Brunson’s last contract. Guys his size don’t play past 35. At best he has one more contract at a very reduced role.
James Dolan is worth over $2B and he can work until the day he dies. He ain’t taking a pay cut.
Brunson is giving up millions that he will never be able to make back for an organization that makes money whether the Knicks win or lose.
It’s dumb AF no matter how you look at it.
Boston will have to trade 1 of their guys after next season or they will be paying the largest luxury tax bill in the history of the nba. Probably while they are trying to sell the team now 🤣
Nope!!
That math is bs because the owners can overspend the cap etc so they can actually spend more money than the amount allocated so both role player and star can get paid it just costs the owners a lot.
Wrong, in the past that was true but not now. The cap is way different. NY cant just pay luxury tax to keep people
@clutch7548 yes they can.. They pay the same luxury tax as golden state did but in the second apron it limits trades and after 2 years your pick goes to the end of the round but if you already have the team set up that should not matter.
If we start the season with Wiggins on the roster, we're screwed. The flashes of 2022 Wiggins over the past two seasons is not enough to convince me that guy still exists. He looks absolutely crushed by life and, in my opinion, is a massive liability because of it. It almost doesn't make a difference what else happens this offseason if we have to rely on Wiggins' 45% motor.
You need a wing doe without lauri...
The nets and wizards need to be there not the hawks or raptors ...the hornets pistons blazers are garbage teams who can't stay healthy...
The Hornets have 3 Allstar caliber players yet they're trash......casual
Knicks needs is Bench Dog's like the Starters so if they want a Chip or get close to a Chip get Bench Help Every Team that Won a Chip had Dog's on the Benches ask the last 5 Championship Team's 😂😂😂
Bruh they lost Brunson, Randle, and OG I think and beat the Cavs with basically their bench. Josh Hart 19 rebounds.
PG brunson SG Bridges SF AnunobyPF Randle C Robinson bench Divecenzo,Hart needs more Dog's from the bench to battle Celtics Dog's from the Bench
@@euraniajimenezjimenez7550 bruh McBride avg 11/2/2 off the bench on 43/37/86 shooting splits in the postseason. You completing ignoring or omitting his numbers for whatever reasons. He can go off for 20 in a post season game and give the Knicks great perimeter defense. You probably never heard of him or never watched him.
Dude I've been watching Knicks games before you was Born I know who they got and what they Never going to do and that's Win a Title Fact's ok NBA Fan of the Crying Knicks in Since 1973 last title 😂😂😂.
@@euraniajimenezjimenez7550 bruh you def not a Knicks fan quitting before the season even begins. Celtics ain’t even got KP until December at the earliest or January. There’s no telling what condition he’s in by the playoffs. Then to completely omit McBride. Ok.
Did anyone on the Celtics take a pay cut???? If the Celtics could build their team without having their star player give up $100m, why couldn't the New York Knicks?? Jalen Brunson is a joke.
Knicks have Divencenzo off the bench, Josh Hart off the bench & cheap McBride off the bench. Deeper than Boston
Use your tiny brain. Hes keeping those guys on the team
Horford Hauser Kornet are free agents after next season no one on the third string makes any real money or plays they just signed Tillman after trading for him and Hauser is on an incredible contract since last year Kornet is under paid and the Tatum max starts in 2025 same for White...Brown just finally got a full max this season...Kp is only signed 2 more years at a fine amount for a starter who can get 20 and 9 any game...you clearly don't get that they also just signed Jrue this year so his big deal starts next season....Pritchard is a little under paid too right now....
@@razkable They have built a championship team without anyone taking a pay cut. I’m not sure what point you’re making. Knicks could have done the same, without a gift from Jalen Brunson.
No. The Knicks will screw him over in the end
I honestly pray the FO wouldn't do that to him, Jalen deserves the best he's a class act raised the right way, smart, and tough as nails gotta love this squad!
Leon Rose first client was Rick Brunson.
@@clutch7548 that's what I mean and Thibs has known him his entire life and the rest of the connections he has in the organization it just seems like they SHOULD do the right thing if Dolan doesn't my lifelong fandom will be bruised ngl
@@Julian-sl4wethe ONLY doubt is if he ever gets injured. Klay Thompson got the max after his injuries. Out of loyalty. In that case im not sure
@@clutch7548 that's a solid point fam I totally forgot about the Klay deal honestly he's tough though I see the Knicks doing the same with Jalen even if eventually injuried due to his playing through previous injuries like injury restitution lol
Just because you are eligible for a super max doesn’t mean you’re deserving of one. This idea that Franz Wagner or OG Anonuby deserve 220 million is absolutely ridiculous
He wants to bring a chip to New York....you New Yorkers better respect that man, hes trying to help yall!!
Hell no