Mac OS X Sorbet Leopard - Installation & Demo

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  • Опубликовано: 13 мар 2023
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    Today we're checking out Sorbet Leopard: an unofficial version of Mac OS X that aims to bring improved performance to G4 and G5-based Macs.
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  • @MichaelMJD
    @MichaelMJD  Год назад +15

    For those interested in the Shuriken mod that I mentioned: ruclips.net/video/QZX5Fmw51uo/видео.html

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 Год назад +16

    This is awesome. Who would have guessed that vintage computing would be this cool. Thanks for posting this.

    • @bradallen8909
      @bradallen8909 Год назад +2

      This is absolutely NOT "vintage" computing.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Год назад +190

    The MJD channel is as good as sorbet.

  • @megatronskneecap
    @megatronskneecap Год назад +146

    The G4 was such a cool but weird era of Apple (2002-2006). I really liked the clean white vibe Jony Ive was going for but the screen ratios were really really weird. So much so that I remember some websites used to actually redirect you to a Macbook-specific website just so it would work with screen ratios compared to PC monitors. Sorbet Leopard brought life back into an OG clamshell that was running Jaguar so props.

    • @hazridge
      @hazridge Год назад +23

      Wasn't 4:3 the industry standard at the time though?

    • @ImmortalChanger
      @ImmortalChanger Год назад +6

      @@hazridge I'm pretty sure it was, I have some laptops from that era, and even older, and they all seem to have a 4:3 aspect ratio (I haven't been able to verify every one of them though)

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap Год назад +11

      @@hazridge4:3 was for a while, but when LCD technology was main streamed by LG back in 1998 it instantly was switched to 16:9. Apple stuck with some weird 4:8 resolution for another couple of years.

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap Год назад +1

      @@hazridge Epson, LG and Casio helped mainstream LCD's and Espon were the first folks to introduce 16:9 - This was back when LG stood for Lucky Goldstar instead of Life's Good mind you.

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap Год назад +1

      @@comedicsketches Myspace and HP used to redirect you to media width specific websites for 4:3 Mac's.

  • @stevenpike7857
    @stevenpike7857 Год назад +4

    I really liked the Skeuomorphism style. Especially the notification bars w/ that blue and white barber shop pattern and the "gel" look.

  • @Match451
    @Match451 Год назад +64

    I'd love to see a video bench marking and comparing the performance of Sorbet Leopard to regular leopard, and how the different modifications like the new theme and disabling indexing or shadows affect performance.

    • @Reziac
      @Reziac Год назад

      I dunno, but it looks a lot slicker than 9.2 on my old G4. (Tho it got much better after I gave it a full GB of RAM ... off the shelf PC RAM.)

    • @HairyPixels
      @HairyPixels Год назад +1

      Wow this is the geekiest thing I've ever heard. Good work.

  • @ruffy45
    @ruffy45 Год назад +2

    I already knew about the project, but seeing Michael introducing me is incredibly interesting and satisfying.

  • @TheOriginalCollectorA1303
    @TheOriginalCollectorA1303 Год назад +23

    10.5.9 really does help out on PowerPC machines, I’m still using stock Leopard on my PowerBook and it works well. I’m sure though that it would be even faster with this! Also didn’t know that a project existed for Tiger as well. Tiger is already a pretty solid OS, so anything to improve on it will make it that much better!

  • @K9arcade
    @K9arcade Год назад +8

    I've never been into apple but I have been fascinated with the PPC stuff since I love 2000s tech and wondered about toying with the apple side of things. especially since it might be handy to have a machine available for random testing when I need. I'm always for things like this that improve performance on older machines :)

  • @davidmolin8944
    @davidmolin8944 Год назад +17

    Actually really cool video. Planning on getting some of the features for 10.5.8 but will probably not install the full os as I prefer the current ui over the high sierra one(also had a really bad time with high sierra with my old 2010 MacBook Pro)

  • @semidyne
    @semidyne Год назад +4

    love the mac os stuff, would love to see more!

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 Год назад +10

    I recently got a Snow Leopard disc for a 2009 mac. Still a very beautiful OS.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich Год назад +3

      Snow Leopard was Apple's Abbey Road. In my opinion they've been spinning their wheels since on the software front.

  • @Holdenwhite17
    @Holdenwhite17 Год назад +2

    I love all these videos. Keep it up!

  • @rickkarrer8370
    @rickkarrer8370 10 месяцев назад

    You're totally using my custom mock box art for the thumbnail. That's awesome, glad you liked it!

  • @TheNewArtSchool
    @TheNewArtSchool Год назад +1

    Great video! So many memories with my G5!

  • @NathanDarkson984
    @NathanDarkson984 Год назад +31

    As a Flash animator, I am upset that you called Adobe Flash Player "Filezilla" :((
    Jokes aside, I do get the confusion since both logos look the same far away. Other than that, it's amazing to know that there's still a community out there that holds on to the old Macs of yesterdecades.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Год назад +1

      Apple loves throwning older hardware users under the bus. Lol

  • @DJSekuHusky
    @DJSekuHusky Год назад

    Thanks for uploading this!
    Can't wait to try it on my 15" PowerBook G4 1.5GHz.

  • @ryderrepairs
    @ryderrepairs Год назад +4

    Sweet Vid Michael, i was actually just looking at sorbet for my 1.46 Ghz iBook :)

  • @barcigian
    @barcigian Год назад +6

    This G4 12" was my very first laptop ever. The only thing I regret the most was selling it to buy a Windows PC (I HAD to do that due to software limitations I had back in the day).... Nice to see that is people still keeping it alive, cuz was a great machine!

    • @rallokkcaz
      @rallokkcaz Год назад

      Same! Also nice profile picture!

  • @CubeAtlantic
    @CubeAtlantic Год назад

    That Mac OS looks so unique lookin' & beautiful honestly. ✅

  • @polrogi
    @polrogi Год назад

    This guy's voice is just so relaxing,, I love it.

  • @anidnmeno
    @anidnmeno Год назад +1

    NO WAY! I just installed Sorbet Lepoard on my powerbook G4 yesterday!

  • @mr_pretzel_48
    @mr_pretzel_48 Год назад +1

    i never thought that michael would do apple software overviews or demos

  • @wisehat_yt
    @wisehat_yt Год назад

    awesome vid as always :)

  • @xminexx
    @xminexx Год назад

    This is actually so good, I have on my mac mini (A1103 1.25) with 9.2.2 os x tiger and os x sorbet leopard ggs man continue the good content

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Год назад +1

      I have it on my 867mhz Power Mac G4 alongside macOS 9.2.2 and 10.4.11. I also have it on my 17” PowerBook G4 1.5ghz alongside Tiger and plan to put it on the 15” 1.25ghz model I just got.

  • @RetroGamerOG_
    @RetroGamerOG_ Год назад

    I saw the title and I was like “what is this?” Anyway it’s cool that you brought on a mac on here because it’s been a while cool video!

  • @zilog1
    @zilog1 Год назад

    I love how the ice cream scoop on the cover look slike the BSD demon logo. nice

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls Год назад +1

    Ooooo. My G4 eMac needs this

  • @lnsane999
    @lnsane999 Год назад +1

    what’s up michael, been a fan for a few years, love the videos great work!!

  • @jdryyz
    @jdryyz Год назад +4

    Sorbet looks really snappy for running on an iBook G4. Might really be nice on an old G5 I have. If I can only solve my power supply problem.

  • @tonybardalen
    @tonybardalen Год назад +3

    Let's go thrifting! No wait... wrong channel. The music made me doubt if I had opened a hidden tab somewhere. Nice vid! 😊 Cool that you can breathe some life into old Macs!

  • @djhpdell
    @djhpdell Год назад +1

    Go to love Michael’s video. Been following since the pandemic and I have learned more from what I know.

  • @alekspapiez2648
    @alekspapiez2648 Год назад

    Finally new episode 😭

  • @boogiehasfun
    @boogiehasfun Год назад +1

    Linode has sponsored you more than i can count. i guess they like you :D

  • @nathancool4908
    @nathancool4908 Год назад +1

    Hey Michael, could you you maybe do a video where you go trough all of your pc’s?

  • @PascalBrax
    @PascalBrax Год назад +6

    getting rid of the old Aqua theme was a sin.

    • @robertelliottsr4566
      @robertelliottsr4566 5 месяцев назад

      No doubt about that. Always have to change things.

  • @averigonzalez2157
    @averigonzalez2157 Год назад

    Love it!!!

  • @fishermanwastakin
    @fishermanwastakin Год назад +1

    I can’t believe he did a Mac video , am flabbergasted

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat Год назад

    I've got an old G4 Pro and G5 Pro stuck in a closet. This looks pretty neato. Thanks!

  • @AlexanderSiracusa
    @AlexanderSiracusa Год назад

    14:06 All I could think about were the huh duh six hundgos by ol' mate senny on the freakish ears on a stand while the background music played.

  • @Eeveewashere
    @Eeveewashere Год назад +2

    Now I'm wanting the Mac OS Grey Poupon special version.

    • @Margen67
      @Margen67 Год назад +1

      Eevee needs HUGS

    • @Eeveewashere
      @Eeveewashere Год назад +1

      ​@@Margen67 Thank you. My co-worker loves Pokemon Go. Best wishes to you.

  • @s6edge7
    @s6edge7 Год назад +2

    I got a EMAC laying around . I will try it

    • @s6edge7
      @s6edge7 Год назад +1

      Bruh why the bots trying to scam me

  • @jrdavis1992
    @jrdavis1992 7 месяцев назад

    I was today years old when I found out the following:
    When using a PC keyboard on a Mac,
    the WINDOWS button is Command, or as I call it, Clover (because the Command symbol on a Mac keyboard looks somewhat like a four-leaf clover,)
    the ALT key is the same as Option,
    and the Backspace key does the same as a Mac keyboard's 'delete' key.

  • @nikicze1220
    @nikicze1220 Год назад

    Love your video)))

  • @ipodsandmacs
    @ipodsandmacs Год назад +1

    9:03 I tested it with Sorbet Leopard and sometimes it works, so I'm guessing it's a bug with PPCStore.
    It also does the same with 10.5.8 Leopard too.

  • @geoCow
    @geoCow Год назад +2

    What about Safari? Has it been updated in Sorbet to support current websites?

  • @saturngd_
    @saturngd_ Год назад

    Babe wake up, Micheal MJD uploaded.

  • @danielktdoranie
    @danielktdoranie Год назад +20

    I would add, you really want to upgrade your hard disk to a solid state IDE drive… to get way better performance.
    However, upgrading the hard disk in an iBook G4 is PAINFULLY DIFFICULT! Easier on the PowerBook G4

    • @lvl90dru1d
      @lvl90dru1d Год назад

      yes it really is, i broke my g3 in process of removing hard drive

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Год назад

      Unfortunately the hard drive in my iBook G4 is dying. I’ll be buying an SSD for it to make sure I never have to open it again(or at least for a while) I already made a backup so it’ll be easy to upgrade.

    • @danielktdoranie
      @danielktdoranie Год назад

      @@EvilTurkeySlices good luck! Check out the iFixit guide and BE VERY CAREFUL at step 29. The connectors for the cables on the logic board are brittle and can literally pop right off. (It happened to me!) those connectors could be soldered down again and of course one could just solder the wires to the board but man what a PITA the entire operation is.
      My good friend owns an auto crash repair business, I gave him my other iBook to see what he could do with the scratches on the plastic… so now mine looks NEW but I need to put an SSD in it too.
      Pray for me bro :-)
      Oh, I will say you can FireWire and USB boot IIRC from the iBook and PowerBook G3/G4… might be easier to just image an external SSD with whatever OS (MorphOS, Leopard, Sorbet, Debian SID, whatever) and then book from that.

    • @Reziac
      @Reziac Год назад

      Horrible slow Quantum HDD came in my G4, you could practically hear every read-write like an MFM drive. Found an IDE SSD for it and what a difference. Probably any modern drive would help, really.

  • @kbhasi
    @kbhasi Год назад +1

    6:01 🤣🤣🤣
    You accidentally saying "High Leopard" reminds me of a photo someone made of "macOS High Mojave" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @fdolbec123
    @fdolbec123 Год назад

    I do remember that RAM Disk was a thing back in Mac OS 9!

  • @davidkshow
    @davidkshow Год назад +1

    I love Mac OS X! ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer Год назад +2

    Thank you, for sharing this. However, nobody on You Tube will do a slow step-by-step teaching session. About 9-months ago, I downloaded OS X Sorbet Leopard but cannot for the life of me figure out, how to get it installed. Also, where can, I go to learn about the other project updating Apple's OS X 10.4 Tiger for Power PC macs? Perhaps this modified operating system has a step-by-step tutorial (smile...smile).

  • @guitarkid660
    @guitarkid660 Год назад +1

    I like that sorbet like i like my MJD videos🍧

  • @baardbi
    @baardbi Год назад

    This is pretty cool. But I was hoping to see some web browsing. Has something been done to Safari in this version. Because without a functional browser that limits the OS sigificantly.

  • @MrAlvinjd
    @MrAlvinjd Год назад

    Masterpiece

  • @jeanpepin5869
    @jeanpepin5869 Год назад +1

    A modern OS should be object oriented enough that windows don't stack on top of each other and size automatically adjusts to content but in 1985 the Amiga Workbench did that, it still didn't give the news and the temperature but he could have done it.

  • @gaelotrosjuegos2017
    @gaelotrosjuegos2017 Год назад

    Lucky to be early!

  • @ThinkleaYT
    @ThinkleaYT Год назад

    Awesome

  • @semibiotic
    @semibiotic Год назад

    Judging on derived FreeBSD foundation logo on thumbnail it is MacOS with re-injected FreeBSD components ?

  • @MrBritrider
    @MrBritrider 20 дней назад

    Can I use Sorbet on my G5 1.8 power PC? Also, would I lose all my apps currently running on regular Leopard?

  • @computernerdinside
    @computernerdinside Год назад +1

    This would’ve been so awesome to know this existed an experience it on my eMac G4 that I have before it died due to a capacitor failure.
    On a sidenote, if anybody has a list of capacitors that I can order, I’d love to have the list and order them before I take it apart. I’d hate to take it apart, find and order all the capacitors, then lose pieces or forget how to put it back together while they ship. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

  • @mikeriv9229
    @mikeriv9229 Год назад +4

    I first played minecraft on a power mac G4, I feel like the standard edition should run. Granted it was beta 1.3 or whatever so much has changed. Might look into that

    • @lukeonuke
      @lukeonuke Год назад

      i an now intrested but how many fps did it have

    • @mikeriv9229
      @mikeriv9229 Год назад

      @@lukeonuke not a ton but definitely playable. Maybe 30ish on low settings

    • @lukeonuke
      @lukeonuke Год назад +1

      @@mikeriv9229 Amazing, thats 20 more than id expect, but still old minecraft could probably run on a toaster

  • @charlesstansell
    @charlesstansell Год назад

    Like Macbook

  • @Mbabbb399
    @Mbabbb399 7 месяцев назад

    Why does it change to dock that’s one of the most visually appealing parts of snow leopard and I wasn’t even really old enough to have a computer yet when all this was around

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Год назад +5

    When I heard that this is a modified version, I was quite cool with that!

  • @gusbecerra8116
    @gusbecerra8116 Год назад +1

    Can you web surf without any major issues?

  • @stepfatre
    @stepfatre Год назад

    Im waiting on dat tiger video im tryna c a good mac to buy for school n i want it to b able to run GarageBand and do all my schoolwork n shxt smooth

  • @kamakhyasrivastava5943
    @kamakhyasrivastava5943 Год назад

    MJD please help me i have a windows insider update but i already run 22H2 what do i do please tell me

  • @OM3N98
    @OM3N98 Год назад +1

    i wonder, what is with the certifcats and ssl is that also upgraded, or is it still a problem browsing content or connecting to services wich use actual encryption ? does anyone may know that ?

    • @geoCow
      @geoCow Год назад

      I need to know this too.

  • @tomdfrog
    @tomdfrog Год назад

    Makes me wish I had kept one of my old PPC machines. Hung onto some for a long time...but finally sold/gave them away. Time to troll CL.

  • @QuinceTart10
    @QuinceTart10 Год назад

    9:10 Actually, on my regular 10.5.8 Mac Mini, PPCStore also didn't want to download anything, so I don't think it has something to do with the Sorbet devs.

  • @Randomaccountgg.
    @Randomaccountgg. Год назад +2

    If I had a MacBook I would install this! :)

    • @andrupka8749
      @andrupka8749 Год назад +5

      It's for PowerPC so you would need a Powerbook or an iBook :)

    • @anidnmeno
      @anidnmeno Год назад +4

      gotta have a PPC Mac. MacBooks are Intel Get a G4

  • @pkf4124
    @pkf4124 Год назад

    My G5 has expressed an interest in having this installed. My G3 also asked. My G4 has other ideas.

  • @flybyw1re123
    @flybyw1re123 Год назад

    nice!

  • @echoless3484
    @echoless3484 Год назад +1

    VM Compatible?

  • @noraretrouciech
    @noraretrouciech Год назад

    It means that on G4 Cube I'll be able to run that?

  • @sgal5845
    @sgal5845 Год назад

    I got excited about this thinking I'd have a classic macOS *.iso for my 2010 MacBook, then I realized:
    it's a 2010. it needs 10.7 and newer.

  • @Mr3Chick
    @Mr3Chick Год назад

    can I use it on old macbook?

  • @rafiexperimental
    @rafiexperimental Год назад +2

    Can it browse youtube and all that? Leopard doesnt support newer browsers

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Год назад +2

      It uses leopard WebKit which uses a newer version of the safari engine. It will probably be too slow to watch RUclips at anything higher than 240p-360p unless you have a G5 with a good GPU.

  • @OleSteffensen89
    @OleSteffensen89 Год назад

    Hi Michael.
    A while back you installed leopard on an apple tv 1. I have one sitting waiting for a leopard install. But now I'm thinking sorbet would perhaps be a better option. If it at all works. Do you know if it would work or not?

    • @BeyondTech12
      @BeyondTech12 22 дня назад

      It won’t work because the Apple TV uses intel and sorbet leopard only supports power pc

  • @GooglePlayUSA567
    @GooglePlayUSA567 4 месяца назад

    Next: Mac OS X NT Lion Install & Overview

  • @smartnima
    @smartnima Год назад

    First comment, Big fan of your vids.

  • @stevejobs1955
    @stevejobs1955 Год назад +1

    I have a early 2006 Imac but it is on snow leapard. Worth doing this or not? Or is there a snow leapard version?

    • @egbront1506
      @egbront1506 Год назад +1

      This is for PPC machines only as they never got Snow Leopard.

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Год назад

      I have my 2006 iMac running lion, I had to upgrade the CPU, flash it as a 5,1 iMac, and modify the lion install to get it to work though. Once running it’s really nice to use though

    • @stevejobs1955
      @stevejobs1955 Год назад

      @@EvilTurkeySlices do you know a way to get better app support without upgrading it physically?

  • @andrewdupuis1151
    @andrewdupuis1151 Год назад

    does this work on 2011 mac pro

  • @obseletechannel
    @obseletechannel Год назад

    Next Michael MJD video: Installing macOS on a Desktop computer

  • @emmabentley7945
    @emmabentley7945 Год назад

    I run this on my 15 Powerbook G4 , 1.67ghz , 2gb ddr2

  • @Bolation
    @Bolation Год назад

    I'm not able to create a partition... :(

  • @Supersmg4fan
    @Supersmg4fan 7 месяцев назад

    Ok, leopard, snow leopard, sorbet leopard, what's missing? Spagetti leopard?

  • @homemadesuperstar796
    @homemadesuperstar796 6 месяцев назад

    Im installing this on my intel imac

    • @BeyondTech12
      @BeyondTech12 22 дня назад

      You can’t it’s only for powerpc you can use it if you use an emulator on your Intel Mac to emulate powerpc

  • @Techmej
    @Techmej Год назад +2

    It'd be really cool if someone made some sort of modded Ventura version that runs on PowerPC processors

    • @no-xu3eo
      @no-xu3eo Год назад

      should be a theme

  • @MondySpartan
    @MondySpartan Год назад

    Snow Leopard but with a modern coat of paint ;)

  • @gamepunk7963
    @gamepunk7963 Год назад

    Well today is my birthday!

  • @Bertie_Ahern
    @Bertie_Ahern Год назад +3

    I'm always desperate to downgrade my MacOS because every update is, as well all know, a downgrade that prevents programs from running and makes things harder to use. I hope they start doing this with all the older versions of MacOS.

  • @arthurmartinsgoncalves6468
    @arthurmartinsgoncalves6468 Год назад

    Feature this on your qna
    Can Windows Longhorn build 4008 run on the 5 dollar 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 98 PC? It can be booted on the current date

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery Год назад

    Hmm - I have a dual processor 1.25 GHz MDD G4 PowerMac with GB RAM plus a 12-in G4 PowerBook 1.5 GHz with 1.25 GB RAM. I reckon they'll be candidates for Sorbet Leopard.

  • @cursedfox4942
    @cursedfox4942 Год назад

    Why is apple using the free bsd logo but purple

  • @n3cr0z1989
    @n3cr0z1989 Год назад +1

    Can you actually use this os to work on 2023 like web browsing netflix etc, etc

    • @iannicolson
      @iannicolson Год назад

      TenFourFox (unsupported as of October 2021) could maybe get you onto some modern sites. You'd probably, at most, be able to read news, use email, and maybe shopping. Nothing graphics intensive though, certainly not RUclips or Netflix. The machine's CPU and GPU couldn't handle it.

    • @oldradios09
      @oldradios09 Год назад

      Tried RUclips on my PMG5…it’s a no go. I’ll just stay on The Old Net and Frog Finder. Some of the internet Archive I did get to work. This is just on plain Leopard tho. If it can’t do those things (RUclips all of Internet Archive)on this sorbet distro I wonder if it’s even worth installing?…

  • @Speakery17
    @Speakery17 Год назад

    “MATSHITA CD-RW CW-…” Thanks but I didn’t need to know

  • @wininit
    @wininit Год назад

    cool

  • @Thiesi
    @Thiesi Год назад

    1:54 - Oops!