Kindergarten Teacher Murdered After Bailing Her Killer Out of Jail

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  Месяц назад +79

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    • @splinterbyrd
      @splinterbyrd Месяц назад +3

      Can't see a link to Cathryn's charities in the description

    • @stevolopez
      @stevolopez Месяц назад

      Why do chicks go for convicts?

  • @bamboozled9120
    @bamboozled9120 Месяц назад +3623

    When the bail bondsman says you shouldnt do it , DONT , he knows more than you do .

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +114

      He really knew his job. I wonder who trained him.

    • @nhlanhlanzimande4001
      @nhlanhlanzimande4001 Месяц назад +42

      You are absolutely 💯
      Right

    • @zaq1337
      @zaq1337 Месяц назад +17

      SMH

    • @scottinnh88
      @scottinnh88 Месяц назад +42

      This guy reminds me of Wade Wilson.

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils Месяц назад +91

      I dated a girl who's parole officer made her tell me she was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder..and she did...but did I take the warning..not at all...why would I..I thought she was just being honest on her own volition so couldn' be THAT bad. Wrong.

  • @teddyruxspin8480
    @teddyruxspin8480 Месяц назад +2909

    Any guy that wants you to put your house up for bail is a snake

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +26

      What kind of snake is he? An anaconda? A python? A boa constrictor?

    • @JohnjOcampo
      @JohnjOcampo Месяц назад +2

      @@MrJuvefrank devil type snake.

    • @utubewillyman
      @utubewillyman Месяц назад +164

      ​@@MrJuvefrankthe kind of snake who is confused by metaphors.

    • @teddyruxspin8480
      @teddyruxspin8480 Месяц назад +10

      @@MrJuvefrank all three

    • @stephaniesaslut12616
      @stephaniesaslut12616 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@utubewillyman hahahaha 😂😂😂😂

  • @alannaflaherty3793
    @alannaflaherty3793 Месяц назад +1950

    She literally paid $20,000 to be killed tragic!

    • @Anna-ww4pv
      @Anna-ww4pv Месяц назад +163

      She was delusional. Nothing about him says, I’m a man in love with this woman.

    • @levithewonderdog335
      @levithewonderdog335 Месяц назад +50

      ​@Anna-ww4pv agree. .she's 44 he's 32 absolutely delusional

    • @clash4421
      @clash4421 Месяц назад +90

      @@levithewonderdog335 That's only 12 years difference. That wasn't the problem... The problem was he had addiction and anger issues....and a whole lot of other issues.

    • @davidwright873
      @davidwright873 Месяц назад +63

      @@levithewonderdog335 she was single and lonely...that plays a huge role...

    • @hhealy7199
      @hhealy7199 Месяц назад +43

      He is a psychopath. Don't forget the assaults at the university. Very dangerous guy.

  • @pauladouglass9456
    @pauladouglass9456 Месяц назад +261

    He held his own sister and her kid at gunpoint. The bail bondsman told her several times don’t do it. How big of a sign and how many big signs did Catherine need?

    • @blackeagle4913
      @blackeagle4913 Месяц назад +13

      @@pauladouglass9456 Desperation and low self esteem!

    • @splinterbyrd
      @splinterbyrd Месяц назад +16

      @@blackeagle4913 I believe she was 44 and he 27; she probably couldn't believe her luck pulling a ruggedly handsome young guy like that, and with the mindset of a schoolteacher thought she could straighten him out. She's not the first to make such a mistake and won't be the last.

    • @RGh-r6l
      @RGh-r6l Месяц назад +1

      Wait. Is the weaker , lesser unprofessional talking. Upgrade when they go low. Refund it’s gas money for cars you don’t have In the area

    • @Harleyanne774
      @Harleyanne774 17 дней назад +2

      @@splinterbyrd I made that mistake. My life was miserable. Now I’m free finally

    • @splinterbyrd
      @splinterbyrd 17 дней назад +1

      @@Harleyanne774 PS And although sometimes it's difficult, don't look back

  • @amandalowery377
    @amandalowery377 Месяц назад +484

    If a bail bondsman is telling u that it’s a bad idea LISTEN TO THEM because a bail bondsman will never say that because they want your money!!! So if they are saying that then it’s a really bad idea

    • @carlcounts1
      @carlcounts1 Месяц назад

      women LOVE toxic men. Toxic men are like a drug women can't resist

    • @jeanettejohnson7315
      @jeanettejohnson7315 Месяц назад +23

      Exactly.And if his own family who has known him all his life had nothing to do with him. Why would she think she could rehabilitate him in the short time that she had known him??

    • @carlcounts1
      @carlcounts1 Месяц назад +11

      @@amandalowery377 the more a woman is warned about a man the more she’s attracted to him

    • @sunnie231138
      @sunnie231138 Месяц назад +7

      @@carlcounts1 Not all of us.

    • @carlcounts1
      @carlcounts1 Месяц назад

      @@sunnie231138 no all but a majority of women are attracted to toxic men

  • @EffSharp
    @EffSharp Месяц назад +4990

    Ladies: if you need to save something, get a dog.

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +61

      My uncle's dog couldn't be saved. She wasn't a born killer, she was taught those things by people, so my uncle had her put down before she could get her first victim.

    • @carlosnumbertwo
      @carlosnumbertwo Месяц назад +41

      @@EffSharp I second this!

    • @shamiramfatima5550
      @shamiramfatima5550 Месяц назад +32

      You are probably right , some animals have more common sense than some kind of Monsters like this ignorant Charlie.

    • @nicolef2496
      @nicolef2496 Месяц назад +60

      Sounds like she already had.... this situation is really sad. At least she didn't have kids, bc it could have been worse...

    • @MiQi-0208
      @MiQi-0208 Месяц назад +29

      Pit bull it is.

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars Месяц назад +1990

    Ladies, please! When someone shows you who they are please, please 🙏🏻 believe them the very first time !😢

  • @Cucumberflavoredmustard
    @Cucumberflavoredmustard Месяц назад +1442

    Ladies: you can't fix criminals.
    Guys: you can't save her.
    Even the bail bondsman tried to talk her down.

    • @AngelRaeeee
      @AngelRaeeee Месяц назад +48

      Yes! That is RARE! My goodness. But she probably thinking “nobody knows him like I do” smh 😢

    • @YayaTourney
      @YayaTourney Месяц назад +49

      @@AngelRaeeee She was sexually attracted to him that's all. People always try to intellectualise women's behaviours.

    • @Sc-dd6hb
      @Sc-dd6hb Месяц назад +21

      @@YayaTourneyyou didn’t watch the video? She was trying to HELP him, even got him counselling.

    • @jimmyzhao2673
      @jimmyzhao2673 Месяц назад +25

      _Some_ women really go for the bad-boy type.

    • @Cucumberflavoredmustard
      @Cucumberflavoredmustard Месяц назад +8

      @@jimmyzhao2673 Bad boy, and worse boy.

  • @msknucb1762
    @msknucb1762 Месяц назад +471

    I wouldn't put my house up even for my own son ... NOPE!!! Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

    • @user-eu3op7or6v
      @user-eu3op7or6v Месяц назад +14

      Exactly

    • @ATXviIIIe
      @ATXviIIIe Месяц назад +8

      Right on

    • @1965..
      @1965.. Месяц назад +7

      Facts

    • @2004mojo
      @2004mojo Месяц назад +11

      Even a relationship or friendship of 20 or more years wouldn't budge me to put my house up as collateral for ANYBODY! This is beyond helping someone. She had personal issues & needed professional help. And absolutely no self worth. Why would she think this man would go along with her rules 100%?? She was living in the clouds. The last thing she should have been doing was teaching children.

    • @Cbd_7ohm
      @Cbd_7ohm Месяц назад +1

      But mamma

  • @BunBun2626
    @BunBun2626 Месяц назад +402

    So many women believe they are the exception, trust no one is .... monsters will be monsters.

    • @TheSpiritualjrny
      @TheSpiritualjrny Месяц назад +7

      This!

    • @1JoyPeace
      @1JoyPeace Месяц назад +4

      Exactly!!

    • @dahliainez7384
      @dahliainez7384 Месяц назад +2

      Nah most women like this are desperate to "keep" a man. She needed that "in a relationship" status more than anything

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Месяц назад

      It's same as woman who fail in love with a man who is on the feminine side 😂😂😂😂 and believe by marrying him she will turn him around to stop being 🌈🌈🌈🌈

    • @Firecracker876
      @Firecracker876 Месяц назад +3

      Facts. The mindset of I’m not like other girls I’m special has gotten a lot of women killed and abused

  • @Katarina-ds5mj
    @Katarina-ds5mj Месяц назад +1292

    She might as well have bailed out the devil himself. He murdered her as soon as she got him out of jail.

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +45

      I thought she had bailed out the devil himself.

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +31

      Yeah what a scary situation

    • @jameshall915
      @jameshall915 Месяц назад

      kind of like were taught to hate german soldiers in ww2 but our veterans are ''heros''

    • @lemaa4820
      @lemaa4820 Месяц назад +24

      Very scary and crazy! I wanna know why he killed her though!?

    • @Moofie-rc5dd
      @Moofie-rc5dd Месяц назад +2

      lol

  • @carolvfl8355
    @carolvfl8355 Месяц назад +735

    Wow, he wasted no time eliminating her as soon as she got him out of jail. 😢

    • @adi7031
      @adi7031 Месяц назад +58

      But he was trying to get out of jail. Only to do the worse and end up back where he didn't wanna be. Something tells me his brain is not well developed. Not thinking of consequences or past immediate gratification.

    • @seemoretoys5944
      @seemoretoys5944 Месяц назад +51

      @@adi7031 He wanted his drugs at all costs. Sad really.

    • @bobzelley5100
      @bobzelley5100 Месяц назад +2

      Failed to include the hippocratic code in her list of rules . That should have been the first rule , without survival, there is no reason for other rules

    • @leslieschott754
      @leslieschott754 Месяц назад +1

      AND, getting back on his drugs!

  • @solitarymystic4672
    @solitarymystic4672 Месяц назад +582

    She treated him as one of her misbehaving kindergartners

    • @user-se5ef5pl3o
      @user-se5ef5pl3o Месяц назад +21

      Because she never had kids of her own.

    • @JessP-ut9gl
      @JessP-ut9gl Месяц назад +25

      @@user-se5ef5pl3oThis comment make zero sense.

    • @stephaniesaslut12616
      @stephaniesaslut12616 Месяц назад +6

      Ugh that's heartbreaking to think about. Sad but true

    • @peacelove7437
      @peacelove7437 Месяц назад +8

      @@user-se5ef5pl3o
      And? I never had kids and I’m 49. My boyfriend is 33 & I’d never treat him like a child, he’s a man. He takes me out and pays for dinner. I know what you mean though, I don’t like it when men are emasculated.

    • @bertkilborne6464
      @bertkilborne6464 Месяц назад +1

      Dicey

  • @mariadavis8745
    @mariadavis8745 Месяц назад +607

    Who puts up their house for someone having only known them for one month?

    • @tonyjones1560
      @tonyjones1560 Месяц назад +36

      IKR? My *father* wouldn’t have put his house for any of us. I was 30 years old when he passed, I’m the youngest and the only time growing up when he wasn’t around, he was in Vietnam.

    • @bancymunene2960
      @bancymunene2960 Месяц назад +50

      I wouldnt put up my house for anyone , it doesnt matter who you are or how long i have known you

    • @LinkRocks
      @LinkRocks Месяц назад +76

      Sadly some people are so desperate for love they lose their sense of reality and make terrible choices.

    • @ash.1254
      @ash.1254 Месяц назад +8

      @@LinkRocks perfectly said

    • @ЗВЕРОБОЙ-л6к
      @ЗВЕРОБОЙ-л6к Месяц назад

      @@tonyjones1560 My condolences

  • @constancewashington9019
    @constancewashington9019 Месяц назад +146

    She sounds like she is desperate to have a boyfriend. He sounds very immature on the phone asking her to get him out of jail.

    • @tonysnow2224
      @tonysnow2224 Месяц назад

      This lady not a genuine nice person she just a chick that wanted to date above her looks level and she paid the price, she wouldn’t have did that for a man on her looks level..she is no different than a unattractive dude that be tricking on women…

  • @Nat524Ricci
    @Nat524Ricci Месяц назад +690

    So she bails him out, after telling him all the bond rules, and he decides he wants out but doesn’t want to be with her or adhere to any of these rules so he kills her? What an absolute psychopath

    • @DarkSharkDomilian
      @DarkSharkDomilian Месяц назад +16

      @@Anna-ww4pv huh?

    • @coletroutman1060
      @coletroutman1060 Месяц назад +4

      @@Anna-ww4pvwhat you yapping about

    • @saveThe90s88
      @saveThe90s88 Месяц назад +1

      Don't you mean obey?

    • @KB_Nicole
      @KB_Nicole Месяц назад +13

      @@saveThe90s88adhere is used appropriately here.

    • @bradenharris8718
      @bradenharris8718 Месяц назад +5

      @@saveThe90s88 I doubt he means “obey” since adhere is also being used correctly here.

  • @jetttheninjette3927
    @jetttheninjette3927 Месяц назад +620

    All the red flags were screaming at her. She was truly desperate and that’s really sad. He was a total loser in every sense of the word!!!

    • @RONJAE212003
      @RONJAE212003 Месяц назад +27

      Right. So guess she found her answer. Are you dangerous?

    • @MPPG663
      @MPPG663 Месяц назад +30

      I would feel like a complete failure if I raised a girl to become such a naive and desperate woman 😢.

    • @calrey
      @calrey Месяц назад

      ​​@@MPPG663just don't have kids. Because victim blaming only fueled these boys that became 'men' to continue being criminals.

    • @RabidDisposition
      @RabidDisposition Месяц назад +36

      And yet this is the kind of guy women are getting knocked up by, then they act surprised when the bum doesn't want to be a father.

    • @stopmikeandjim3196
      @stopmikeandjim3196 Месяц назад +27

      She thought he was hot, and that was all that mattered

  • @SuperTruthful
    @SuperTruthful Месяц назад +1109

    Always be leery of a person who's family wants nothing to-do with them.

    • @carriefawcett9990
      @carriefawcett9990 Месяц назад +15

      *wary

    • @milanimorales2645
      @milanimorales2645 Месяц назад +100

      In this case yes. Sometimes the family are the toxic ones.

    • @MissAlissaxX
      @MissAlissaxX Месяц назад +96

      ​@carriefawcett9990 leery is a word, and is correctly used in this context. You're trying to correct something that doesn't need correction. So I'm curious, what do you think you accomplished? Lol

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils Месяц назад +11

      @@MissAlissaxX S/he accomplished informing me its wary and not weary.

    • @jonathanmorris8362
      @jonathanmorris8362 Месяц назад +2

      @@milanimorales2645 caught in 4K bruh.

  • @df5781
    @df5781 Месяц назад +95

    He doesn’t even sound like he’s interested in doing better over the phone. Sounds like he just wants to get out by any means

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +2

      That guy must be one of the biggest liars in his community.

    • @delawarehistory1675
      @delawarehistory1675 Месяц назад +4

      Yep, and it sounds like she wants a project to try to fix. Bad combo.

  • @Scott_From_Canada
    @Scott_From_Canada Месяц назад +123

    When going over his rules with him, she spoke to him like he was one of her students. If you have to talk and treat your spouse like a child, that’s a huge red flag.

    • @lubabe9969
      @lubabe9969 Месяц назад

      I think that was who she was, she wanted so badly to help him have a normal happy life, monsters like him have to be in control always, I’m sure he looked for a reason to start a fight so he could kill her.
      Her next time round will be a happy peaceful loving life, her kind soul deserves that.

    • @Pizza-gb1ch
      @Pizza-gb1ch Месяц назад +6

      That was a red flag about her, not him.

    • @HeyPattiana
      @HeyPattiana Месяц назад +7

      @@Scott_From_Canada I thought the same. It was a red flag about the dynamics of the relationship - a kindergarten teacher and a high school dropout. He sounded like a little boy talking to her "ask me, tell me".

    • @marieslabbert6009
      @marieslabbert6009 Месяц назад +3

      They cannot help it. My sister and my sister in law are both teachers. They talk to everybody like that - infuriating.

    • @R.Lebeaux44
      @R.Lebeaux44 Месяц назад +4

      @@Scott_From_Canada If you have to talk to your spouse through bars, that's a red flag.

  • @StormieAllen-d6b
    @StormieAllen-d6b Месяц назад +676

    “I don’t think you’re that dangerous!! …Are you that dangerous?” ….. silence he didn’t answer that question.. but she found out the answer 😢

  • @nicholasschoonbeck6866
    @nicholasschoonbeck6866 Месяц назад +464

    He sounded high as she gave him the rules. And the fact that he begged her to come get him, & he promised to slick his hair back & put deodorant on, as if that's a reward, tells me everything.

    • @lvaz1248
      @lvaz1248 Месяц назад +74

      Yes he sounded so weird. Slurring and everything.

    • @missstirring6063
      @missstirring6063 Месяц назад +4

      😂😂😂😢😢😢

    • @SherrieMonica
      @SherrieMonica Месяц назад +8

      ​@@missstirring6063 Not really that funny

    • @rbnzo25
      @rbnzo25 Месяц назад +27

      The deodorant thing was so weird

    • @judithgannon5642
      @judithgannon5642 Месяц назад +20

      He didn't sound charming or smooth

  • @sampsonroofing7377
    @sampsonroofing7377 Месяц назад +440

    Like the scorpion who stung the frog just after the frog had helped him get across the stream. Why? "Because that's what I do!" replied the scorpion.

    • @elperroloco1988
      @elperroloco1988 Месяц назад +19

      This is spot on!

    • @desertweasel6965
      @desertweasel6965 Месяц назад +8

      I've heard the classic story of the woman who saved the snake and got bit, but a FROG and a Scorpion? Did you make that up?😂😂

    • @meesamagill1193
      @meesamagill1193 Месяц назад +54

      ​@@desertweasel6965 no, its a well known fable

    • @captainrachel
      @captainrachel Месяц назад +5

      @@desertweasel6965 When I heard it told, it was a hippo and a scorpion.

    • @EMMANUELIWUOHA.
      @EMMANUELIWUOHA. Месяц назад +2

      Hahaha

  • @MsGoldenSmiles
    @MsGoldenSmiles Месяц назад +33

    She just sounded so cute and giddy and innocent when she was talking to him over the phone in jail. Just blindly in love and so full of hope and positivity. The way she called HIS problems OUR problems. She was probably the best thing that could have ever happened to him and he murdered her as soon as he got it. Pure evil.

  • @NeonElixr
    @NeonElixr Месяц назад +27

    They weren’t even dating that long and saying “I love you” to each other. That’s a red flag right there.

  • @davidrenton
    @davidrenton Месяц назад +658

    the worse thing and you understand why , but this type of guy is not going to tolerate going to work, giving his wage to her, getting lunch money, being treated like her pupils
    He used her for what he could get, that's it

    • @Nat524Ricci
      @Nat524Ricci Месяц назад +21

      Exactly right

    • @robinyouman4275
      @robinyouman4275 Месяц назад +9

      Yep, so sad 💔

    • @FiladelfiaNow
      @FiladelfiaNow Месяц назад

      Mrs Frankenstein was plotting to create a resentful creature

    • @blossom1290
      @blossom1290 Месяц назад +16

      And its so sad that she couldnt make a better decision now, because shes not here anymore

    • @LJS01
      @LJS01 Месяц назад +3

      It sounded like she was doing the same thing

  • @Eclipse503
    @Eclipse503 Месяц назад +522

    This guy is a demon. This is someone who should be locked up for life.

    • @joakos1122
      @joakos1122 Месяц назад

      Just watch another wide eyed woman bail him out again, Ted bundy probably got proposed to more than any man in history 😅

    • @Moofie-rc5dd
      @Moofie-rc5dd Месяц назад +1

      always a chance for rehab

    • @desertweasel6965
      @desertweasel6965 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@Moofie-rc5ddhe's just misunderstood and needs counseling.

    • @ApplePie..
      @ApplePie.. Месяц назад

      🤣​@@Moofie-rc5dd

    • @ApplePie..
      @ApplePie.. Месяц назад +10

      ​@@desertweasel6965 I don't know who is more naive, you or Cathryn.

  • @laurai2599
    @laurai2599 Месяц назад +873

    She was so co-dependent. She only knew him a month. Very sad.

    • @blackcherry6877
      @blackcherry6877 Месяц назад +107

      She wasdesperate

    • @shamiramfatima5550
      @shamiramfatima5550 Месяц назад +48

      @@blackcherry6877 She most beautiful kindhearted soul.

    • @mandykitson7039
      @mandykitson7039 Месяц назад +34

      @@blackcherry6877wow judging much ? u know nothing about her she seemed to have a happy life and was loved

    • @Lyndanet
      @Lyndanet Месяц назад +26

      @@blackcherry6877he was he couldn’t even handle a gentle person being kind to him

    • @shanecharles4589
      @shanecharles4589 Месяц назад +59

      @@shamiramfatima5550 and desperate... you are acting like all 3 can't be true at the same time.

  • @quinnhen2325
    @quinnhen2325 Месяц назад +51

    He sounds like a sullen teen on the phone instead of a freaking grown man. Disgusting.

    • @splinterbyrd
      @splinterbyrd 22 дня назад

      @@quinnhen2325 Agreed, phoning Mommy to come and rescue him

  • @realreviews.2026
    @realreviews.2026 Месяц назад +84

    That woman was so desperate. " i don't care what people think about us i love you" desperate to be with a criminal. There are so many men outside the jail. She paid bail risking her life and house!

    • @stealthshopper2092
      @stealthshopper2092 Месяц назад

      lets be real, she was desperate to be with a guy who had a body like a career criminal. She could have gotten men around her age. The heart wants what it wants.

  • @j.m.edwards1183
    @j.m.edwards1183 Месяц назад +603

    She was talking to this man, like he was one of her kindergarten students. While she was giving him her 6 directives, he was thinking there are actually 7, I am going to kill you when I get out of jail. This is so sad. She seemed like a very naive nice person. My condolences to her family and friends.

    • @uncleho1945
      @uncleho1945 Месяц назад

      zero survival instinct, gene pool purged itself

    • @Silent_Ghoul
      @Silent_Ghoul Месяц назад +82

      Even listening to his responces you could tell he was rolling his eyes. She did not listen to his tone, just his words. I feel so sad for her and her family, she was too naive.

    • @josephmarzullo
      @josephmarzullo Месяц назад +1

      He probably didn’t plan on killing her. He only wanted to get out and use her

    • @thomson872
      @thomson872 Месяц назад

      ​@@Silent_Ghoul Naive and arrogant...

    • @bayjustin3885
      @bayjustin3885 Месяц назад +12

      That’s what happens when ur a kindergarten teacher …
      Around kids all the time 😢

  • @sofialovesbubblegum
    @sofialovesbubblegum Месяц назад +81

    That phone call was literally the most cringe thing ever. She is literally speaking to him like a child “ok?” “Ok?” Lady this is a criminal not a toddler. Rest in peace so horribly tragic ❤

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад +8

      Her rules are ridiculous

    • @Brooklynlife1000
      @Brooklynlife1000 Месяц назад +2

      @@Lenny77199 She was ridiculous and lost her life because of it. She helped a violent offender.

  • @lilbitsleepy2574
    @lilbitsleepy2574 Месяц назад +341

    No way that this man child was going to abide by her rules and guidelines. It was in his voice when she first went through them, and in his every immature action that had him locked up and seeking her to fix his problems. It’s just sad that she believed that she could fix him when he wasn’t interested in fixing himself.

    • @dontbelongherefromanother
      @dontbelongherefromanother Месяц назад +16

      No, she couldn't fix him

    • @ryshellso526
      @ryshellso526 Месяц назад +19

      Maybe she should have tried fixing herself before others...

    • @ROBINstrawBERRYwine
      @ROBINstrawBERRYwine Месяц назад +3

      @lilbitsleepy….I totally 100% agree hearing it in his voice 😡

    • @Merrellina
      @Merrellina Месяц назад +2

      “Aight” uh huh”

    • @judithgannon5642
      @judithgannon5642 Месяц назад +3

      I agree about his voice when she read the rules

  • @captainrachel
    @captainrachel Месяц назад +29

    The phone conversation (at 12:30) between her and this guy was absolutely pathetic. She was hoping to buy herself a younger, handsome, 6'4, loving (and emotionally indebted) boyfriend/husband for $20K, thinking that a list of "rules" could reverse a lifetime of criminal behavior and drug addiction.

  • @Welcometomyworld4754
    @Welcometomyworld4754 Месяц назад +197

    Actually, California is not the "sunshine state" that nickname actually belongs to florida. California is the "golden state."

    • @Asiansxsymbol
      @Asiansxsymbol Месяц назад +3

      Because Cali had a lot of gold during the Gold Rush era?

    • @jackswanson8326
      @jackswanson8326 Месяц назад +1

      “The Golden State”, actually.

    • @Welcometomyworld4754
      @Welcometomyworld4754 Месяц назад +2

      @@jackswanson8326 INCORRECT. IT IS THE "golden state"

    • @shane99ca
      @shane99ca Месяц назад +7

      WAS the golden state. It's no longer the paradise it once was; people are leaving in droves. But that won't make them happier, because the problem with California is the current generation of Californians.
      People seem to forget that THEY are the ones who choose their own governments, making THEM ultimately responsible if the administration turns out to be a dud. So by changing states, they simply spread the real problem to other states-themselves.

    • @You.Tube.Sucks.
      @You.Tube.Sucks. Месяц назад

      Wildfire state 😥

  • @Dysontime
    @Dysontime Месяц назад +560

    Ladies you can’t change a man, RIP sad situation

    • @user-q7e4nbd5mjki8frj
      @user-q7e4nbd5mjki8frj Месяц назад +46

      And vice versa...

    • @Dysontime
      @Dysontime Месяц назад +1

      @@user-q7e4nbd5mjki8frj 💯

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered Месяц назад +13

      Why even try to change an L, again?

    • @uncleho1945
      @uncleho1945 Месяц назад

      Yeah men are the problem and not women making the worst decisions possible.

    • @blossom1290
      @blossom1290 Месяц назад +23

      ​@@user-q7e4nbd5mjki8frj theres no vice versa like that, men dont really try to fix or change a women, they leave most of the time🤷‍♀️

  • @ladyhotep5189
    @ladyhotep5189 Месяц назад +501

    "Im going to slick my hair back with some gel and put on some deodorant " wtf was he talking about on that phone call?

    • @yvonneedwards9407
      @yvonneedwards9407 Месяц назад +97

      He was crazed out on drugs and she saw his antics of those of her kindergarten children. Darn unfortunate as she possibly lived a sheltered life unaware of the evils of the word. OMG!!

    • @ipuke_glitter
      @ipuke_glitter Месяц назад +78

      I assumed that he was just joking around to her about getting dolled up in jail for her when he gets out or maybe it's a conversation she had about his appearance before and he is manipulating her into getting him out because he will look how she wants or think she wants.

    • @nicolef2496
      @nicolef2496 Месяц назад +32

      Very romantic sweet talk... he's probably still drunk and wants to be bailed out..😂

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d Месяц назад +22

      Personal grooming.

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +2

      Hahahaha 🤣😂😂😂😂

  • @vusmasuku5261
    @vusmasuku5261 Месяц назад +362

    It is not easy to find happiness in ourselves, and it is not possible to find it elsewhere....

    • @luigimario4458
      @luigimario4458 Месяц назад +10

      From whom is this quote? It's a great quote! 💯

    • @conradholt23
      @conradholt23 Месяц назад +4

      Well, that's a bummer!

    • @scallopohare9431
      @scallopohare9431 Месяц назад +9

      Hmm. Gonna chew on that a while. Very interesting comment.

    • @ls-l1518
      @ls-l1518 Месяц назад +4

      That is the truth, and very well put.

    • @iamwonderfool1426
      @iamwonderfool1426 Месяц назад +14

      Once you find happiness within yourself, the ordinary suddenly becomes extraordinary. You'll realize that happiness was there all along-it's merely a reflection of your inner perception projecting outward.

  • @yvonnes7599
    @yvonnes7599 Месяц назад +17

    She didn't even want him shopping without her, she thought she was getting someone she could control.

  • @KaiiLani
    @KaiiLani Месяц назад +14

    Poor girl, she seemed so optimistic on the phone. My heart goes out to her family and friends.

    • @shellyd7339
      @shellyd7339 15 дней назад +1

      OMG, not poor girl . . . . FOOLISH girl, IDIOTIC girl, NAIVE girl, yes, but not "poor girl". The writing was soooo on the wall. Even the way he sounded on that recorded call from jail when she was giving him the "6 requirements to be bailed out", he sounded like he was completely out of it. She made her bed and very sadly paid the ultimate price. Not that she asked for that, it is very sad, but this was never going to turn into the fairy tale that she was obviously thinking it would.

  • @dat868
    @dat868 Месяц назад +377

    She was so desperate for love that she ignored the many red flags and paid with her life.

    • @1realtruthrightnow742
      @1realtruthrightnow742 Месяц назад +33

      Sadly, most people are like this and it's getting worse.

    • @SomeTheorist9090
      @SomeTheorist9090 Месяц назад +17

      Isn't that every woman that enters a heterosexual relationship... to some degree...

    • @1realtruthrightnow742
      @1realtruthrightnow742 Месяц назад +8

      @@SomeTheorist9090 and man

    • @francesrose18
      @francesrose18 Месяц назад +21

      ​@@1realtruthrightnow742that's not true. Many people don't allow their desperation to override their common sense.
      She was smart n cute.. but she chose a loser, naively thought she could school him out of his bad behaviour. If his police captain father couldn't do it AND gave up trying.. she had mud for brains; thinking she could save him. 😱🤯😱🤯

    • @adi7031
      @adi7031 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@SomeTheorist9090no!

  • @vegas9440
    @vegas9440 Месяц назад +109

    People will say anything when they’re are in jail

    • @OctPSfever
      @OctPSfever Месяц назад +1

      Oh yea. Even dogs will do anything to out of the cage. Did she ever believe this jerk would abide in her 6 rules? Obviously she did

  • @kellycuckoo3143
    @kellycuckoo3143 Месяц назад +254

    Ladies take heed, this is beyond chilling.

    • @TheMary0831
      @TheMary0831 Месяц назад +8

      I wouldn't do what she did in a million years

    • @kellycuckoo3143
      @kellycuckoo3143 Месяц назад +5

      @@TheMary0831 I know that’s right.

    • @lemaa4820
      @lemaa4820 Месяц назад +10

      I can't imagine what she was thinking while being stabbed!! Talk about betrayal!! Yikes!

    • @TheMary0831
      @TheMary0831 Месяц назад +3

      @@lemaa4820 This woman knew how dangerous he was, but she had the hubris to believe he'd never turn it on her. Reminds me of Frankenstein and his monster...

    • @neige4221
      @neige4221 Месяц назад

      No, in that story he knew what his creation was possible of. Sadly this woman didn’t.

  • @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911
    @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911 Месяц назад +178

    Handsome? He looks kind of crazy.

    • @chrissykersey1309
      @chrissykersey1309 Месяц назад +15

      Well he is kinda crazy so that tracks

    • @Darkstar-j5i
      @Darkstar-j5i Месяц назад

      Wade Wison has a following of women who have put $90,000 in the bank for him & put money on his kiosk for prison spending. Desperate Women!

    • @pureforce469
      @pureforce469 Месяц назад +13

      when he cleans up and puts on the charm women are attracted to that bad boy charisma

    • @EugeneLatterman
      @EugeneLatterman Месяц назад +10

      Women tend to go for the bad boy. For some reason it infatuates them

    • @aeromedical6776
      @aeromedical6776 Месяц назад +5

      @@EugeneLatterman- Bad boys don’t hold women accountable. Next question.

  • @paddypaddy2834
    @paddypaddy2834 Месяц назад +44

    As a single woman in her 40s, I sadly feel what she might have been feeling. It’s a lonely place to be and a woman’s self-esteem and self-value are so low at this stage, it’s easy to fall prey to users and abusers (and apparently even killers). It’s a tragedy because she was successful and pretty. She could have found someone worthy of her had she only realized she deserved better.

    • @marccuomo2295
      @marccuomo2295 Месяц назад +2

      Women are objects…..

    • @SunTingWong
      @SunTingWong Месяц назад

      Yup… Woman are always the victims, it’s literally never ever their responsibility for anything.

    • @zammmerjammer
      @zammmerjammer Месяц назад

      Yo, I'm a single woman in my 40s. I even have a bunch of cats.
      My life is pretty rad. The last thing I need is some greasy overgrown boy messing up my life. I'm sure I was much more desperate for male attention in my teens and 20s. I'd have to meet somebody pretty *amazing* to be willing to make a big shift in my life nowadays.

    • @kallel6588
      @kallel6588 Месяц назад

      Are you hot?

    • @Veracityseeker7
      @Veracityseeker7 26 дней назад

      ​@@marccuomo2295No.

  • @lindajohanson9131
    @lindajohanson9131 Месяц назад +283

    She either had a Savior complex or was incredibly desperatly emotionally needy or both.

    • @pip5391
      @pip5391 Месяц назад +10

      Tell us how you really feel. The woman was murdered. Why not refrain from harshly evaluating her personality.

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад +61

      @@pip5391her choices had consequences. It is what it is.

    • @jadekost3335
      @jadekost3335 Месяц назад +32

      Safe to say both. She "knew" him for a month... It is horribly sad she did not listen to those around her warning her to stay away.

    • @pip5391
      @pip5391 Месяц назад +3

      @@Lenny77199 thanks for stating the obvious. And thanks for not degrading her personality. After all, we’ve all made a few poor/bad choices. And we incur consequences. Such is life. It is what, it is.

    • @pip5391
      @pip5391 Месяц назад +2

      @@jadekost3335 hindsight is always 20/20, or it should be. The world is certainly bursting with sage advisors. Contrary to what we may think, helping others does not always guarantee a horrible outcome. Let’s be compassionate in offering up our evaluations. Particularly, when the one we are evaluating has been murdered.

  • @jonathanvalle6582
    @jonathanvalle6582 Месяц назад +156

    Sad my ex wife is similarly codependent, the first friend or man to show her the slightest attention and she opens up her door, tries to bring strange men around my children no matter how many times I send her links to news stories. Now I have to take custody to prevent anything happening to my kids. The world is a dark place!

    • @nowirehangers2815
      @nowirehangers2815 Месяц назад

      Do it Jonathon
      Some women are just so pathetic

    • @bovinebeautymoo2884
      @bovinebeautymoo2884 Месяц назад +31

      I really HOPE you get FULL Custody!

    • @karenconcepcion
      @karenconcepcion Месяц назад +8

      💔🙏🏽💙

    • @unite4peace88
      @unite4peace88 Месяц назад +3

      Ego, has been proven to be the most dominant impulse within man. No stopping it. Logic has no chance w/ some.

    • @mariamacias4435
      @mariamacias4435 Месяц назад +2

      If she is codependent why are you not with her. That does not make sense to me.

  • @bethanybergeson4192
    @bethanybergeson4192 Месяц назад +354

    I think she may have had low self esteem.

    • @sallywilliams5444
      @sallywilliams5444 Месяц назад +39

      That's for sure. Poor woman.

    • @thatgui88
      @thatgui88 Месяц назад +23

      Makes sense she was getting older and that's what generally happens around that age.
      Bruh

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d Месяц назад +30

      And even LOWER standards!!!

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d Месяц назад +5

      @@thatgui88 She never had to deal with those VICIOUS 2nd graders!!!

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +5

      Yes my thoughts too

  • @blightedgrounds
    @blightedgrounds Месяц назад +113

    Scary that so many of the people teaching our children don't even have basic common sense.

    • @Darkstar-j5i
      @Darkstar-j5i Месяц назад +2

      Sounds like Donald Trump's "The Snake". The women takes him in during the storm; At the end he bites & kills her.

    • @paulabrown6840
      @paulabrown6840 Месяц назад +2

      That’s not fair! If you’re so fearful..homeschool.

    • @blightedgrounds
      @blightedgrounds Месяц назад +11

      @@paulabrown6840 You sound like a teacher who doesn't have basic common sense.

    • @JaneDoe-ng3zm
      @JaneDoe-ng3zm Месяц назад

      ​@@paulabrown6840no regrets I homeschooled my 2kids

    • @susanleblevec6613
      @susanleblevec6613 Месяц назад +1

      Home schooling is the way to go.

  • @eddielouisemoran5881
    @eddielouisemoran5881 Месяц назад +44

    As an addict myself, this poor girl had no idea what she was in for. This man was a career crimimal. He had plans to kill her before he left jail. He is probably a psychopath.

  • @claira8601
    @claira8601 Месяц назад +167

    She believed she could control him, probably because she believed he wanted to live a healthy life. Her naivety led her to her death. It's shocking. RIP.

    • @itsinesantonio
      @itsinesantonio Месяц назад +6

      Exactly!

    • @adi7031
      @adi7031 Месяц назад +3

      Don't believe she was naive.

    • @claira8601
      @claira8601 Месяц назад +8

      @@adi7031 Anyone who takes in a convict after know him for a month is naive. That's dangerous.

    • @stoneneils
      @stoneneils Месяц назад

      @@claira8601 Half the guys I know are convicts...most not violent crimes...typically business related..corporate fraud is a big one...morally correct if you ask me lol.

    • @adi7031
      @adi7031 Месяц назад +3

      @claira8601 that's why I say she wasn't naive. She knew who he was. She just didn't think he'd k** her. But that was always a possibility.

  • @Jayna7010
    @Jayna7010 Месяц назад +454

    All this for someone you knew for a month? The desperation is real

    • @shirajai
      @shirajai Месяц назад +33

      Very insensitive.

    • @brightballoon
      @brightballoon Месяц назад +23

      @@shirajai I agree. This isn't the latest gossip....this is absolute tragedy. No flaws of hers need to pointed out as tho she did anything to deserve what happened. Just learn from the things you notice, but saying something like that is out of place considering what happened. I hope her soul is resting in peace.

    • @Jayna7010
      @Jayna7010 Месяц назад +80

      It’s not insensitive, I feel terrible for the poor girl but she was desperate. She knew this guy a month and threw all common sense and inhibitions out of the window.

    • @JohnjOcampo
      @JohnjOcampo Месяц назад +18

      @@brightballoonso don’t speak the truth in order to not offend your insecure and fragile feelings?

    • @G274Me
      @G274Me Месяц назад +24

      She probably had emotional co decency issues and thought she could fix him. Unfortunately too many woman like this and they wonder why their hearts continue to get broke. Cost this woman more

  • @nicolef2496
    @nicolef2496 Месяц назад +101

    He seems mentally ill to be paranoid in the car with his sister and maybe self medicating with alcohol. She had no idea how dangerous this person was. He really WAS that dangerous.

    • @jadekost3335
      @jadekost3335 Месяц назад +20

      The paranoia was more likely substance-induced than true mental illness.

    • @Anna-ww4pv
      @Anna-ww4pv Месяц назад +6

      He’s a drug addict and she needed someone to save.

    • @rachelpride2311
      @rachelpride2311 Месяц назад +5

      Yes drug induced paranoia

    • @erickiyoshiphillips2323
      @erickiyoshiphillips2323 Месяц назад +2

      Usually meth or crack will cause that

    • @nadiastar6264
      @nadiastar6264 Месяц назад

      Everyone on hard-core drugs is dangerous. They are unpredictable.

  • @djohny-ne3gg
    @djohny-ne3gg Месяц назад +106

    the more I listen to this the more I'm angry at her for bailing this criminal out because of it many people were hurt, not just her.

  • @dirtydingus5465
    @dirtydingus5465 Месяц назад +65

    PEOPLE.32 years retired LEO. There are literal MONSTERS that lurk amongst us. They are evereywhere! Always have been. Just more of them now! And growing! They want to prey on your kindness. I hate to be so cynical but after what I have seen in my life, I cannot help it! Please think before helping people. Whether it be food, a few dollars, or more detailed. You may do it 1000 times..but it only takes once, and you will find that monster! Trust me!

    • @nancy3735
      @nancy3735 Месяц назад +13

      Thank you for 32 years of service. You made it!!

    • @rickskellig4652
      @rickskellig4652 Месяц назад

      Totally agree and a lot of those monsters you speak of are cops. What's the worst thing you saw a fellow officer do to someone?

  • @EmesiS
    @EmesiS Месяц назад +131

    It's crazy what people do for love, and how most confuse lust for true love.

    • @loyaldogpublishingllc915
      @loyaldogpublishingllc915 Месяц назад +7

      This!!! Yes! Yes! They are similar and It takes a self aware person to know the difference

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se
      @MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se Месяц назад +2

      Not love, lust, keep it real

    • @Anna-ww4pv
      @Anna-ww4pv Месяц назад +2

      Delusional.

    • @dante6985
      @dante6985 Месяц назад

      That's basically what happened here, I think. She loved sleeping with him. End of story.

    • @mindfuqq
      @mindfuqq 8 дней назад

      lol she knew him a month , thats not love. She loved the fact he was in trouble because then he needs her which she thought brings them closer. she tried to control him as well....

  • @tiffanyrickett1296
    @tiffanyrickett1296 Месяц назад +81

    Saying her name over and over like that is a form of manipulation to create a false sense of closeness.

    • @karlhans6678
      @karlhans6678 Месяц назад +7

      tiffany tiffany tiffany

    • @FeezFBaby
      @FeezFBaby Месяц назад +5

      @@karlhans6678🤣🤣🤣

    • @iwasbrithen6294
      @iwasbrithen6294 Месяц назад +3

      They do it in Starbucks 😭

    • @kallel6588
      @kallel6588 Месяц назад

      I see you uabe experience with this

  • @cme9
    @cme9 Месяц назад +58

    Unfortunately women trying to save horrendous men from themselves and ending up hurt and or dead is not an uncommon story.

    • @superstringsbro
      @superstringsbro 22 дня назад

      Did you see the story where a woman forgave and became friends with the guy who killed her mother by writing him letters in prison? When he got out she let him live with her only to kill her too.

  • @Gh0stInTheMachines81
    @Gh0stInTheMachines81 Месяц назад +48

    These women are teaching peoples' kids.

  • @IsaacCline-ru7ls
    @IsaacCline-ru7ls Месяц назад +70

    Meanwhile, Wade Wilson in Florida is getting hundreds of love letters a day by women just like this

  • @JudgeDredd_
    @JudgeDredd_ Месяц назад +226

    She’s been working with kindergarteners for too long unfortunately. The real world caught up to her.

    • @dontbelongherefromanother
      @dontbelongherefromanother Месяц назад +20

      Kindergarteners are so easy to work with compared to middle and high schoolers. They listen

    • @jonosterman2878
      @jonosterman2878 Месяц назад +13

      @@dontbelongherefromanother that’s exactly what they’re saying. She was used to sweet innocent children, not teenage and adult monsters.

    • @GrimReaper1971
      @GrimReaper1971 Месяц назад +5

      @@jonosterman2878 she's a 44 year old grown woman...smh

    • @The_Real_Mier
      @The_Real_Mier Месяц назад +2

      @@dontbelongherefromanother They’re easy to babysit.
      But…
      To actually ‘work’ with them, meaning:
      To educate and teach them, to improve their mental, emotional and physical developmental abilities and to help them with anything else they might need help with…
      …plus, most importantly: to mentor and guide them in accordance with the appropriate psychological established norms….
      …the REAL SKILLS that are needed / implemented to CORRECTLY execute the job of a kindergarten teacher…
      …is by no means ‘easy’….!!
      It is quite demanding and requires a specific high level education!
      To refer to the job of a kindergarten teacher as being ‘easy’ is actually very diminishing… and deserves a lot more respect!
      And NO: I am NOT a kindergarten teacher and I don’t even KNOW any of them personally.
      I DO have a long term professional background in Education and Educational Development…. 😃

    • @dontbelongherefromanother
      @dontbelongherefromanother Месяц назад +4

      @@The_Real_Mier by no means was I diminishing the skills and knowledge of a Kindergarten teacher, but using a comparison/contrast of working with 5 year olds to that of middle and high schoolers. Being a Kindergarten teacher is indeed, a noble status

  • @mirabella2154
    @mirabella2154 Месяц назад +169

    You can't save a man.

    • @Ann-sj4pt
      @Ann-sj4pt Месяц назад +5

      Men like him needs to look after himself,the pos.

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +9

      @@Ann-sj4pt I'm glad to hear it. People say dudes like him are extremely self-centered, dishonest, manipulating, and irresponsible.

    • @Cucumberflavoredmustard
      @Cucumberflavoredmustard Месяц назад +13

      You can't save anyone.

    • @GrimReaper1971
      @GrimReaper1971 Месяц назад +5

      you can't save a woman either

    • @TanyaDolan
      @TanyaDolan Месяц назад +1

      "You can't save a man that doesn't want to be saved".

  • @charliepiland3285
    @charliepiland3285 Месяц назад +44

    Whoa, so her stupidity led not only to her own demise, but the brutalization & terrorization of innocent college girls, too? Damn, that’s shameful…

  • @theurinal
    @theurinal Месяц назад +45

    I guarantee you that had she survived the ordeal, she would still have feelings for him.

  • @American.Patriot1220
    @American.Patriot1220 Месяц назад +22

    She had only known this man for one month and put up $20k of money she didn’t have to bail this dude out of jail. Red flags all over this one. 🚩

  • @icare4you123
    @icare4you123 Месяц назад +114

    Poor naive woman. All the signs were there. She just chose not to see them. I could tell by the way he was responding to her "6 conditions" that he had no intentions of doing the right thing. Never bail someone out of jail.

    • @adi7031
      @adi7031 Месяц назад +7

      She wasn't naive. She choosing not to see yeah that but she was trying to build herself a hubby. Make him all that she wanted in a future. She knew exactly what the situation was.

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад

      @@adi7031exactly

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад +3

      @@adi7031she paid for what she bought.
      Zero sympathy

    • @Cucumberflavoredmustard
      @Cucumberflavoredmustard Месяц назад +8

      Plus, when the court sets a high bail (especially in a crime where no one was physically harmed), maybe take the hint. They don't want him out there, neither should anyone else.

  • @Sallie_M
    @Sallie_M Месяц назад +141

    I guess some people just are not born with discretion. I could tell he was lying a mile away on those jail phone calls. Poor Catherine.

    • @obimalope8154
      @obimalope8154 Месяц назад +12

      Discernment not discretion

    • @Sallie_M
      @Sallie_M Месяц назад +4

      @@obimalope8154 no. Discretion is absolutely what I meant. Stop speaking for me.

    • @tiptipzz
      @tiptipzz Месяц назад +2

      What gave it away? 🙄

    • @peacelove7437
      @peacelove7437 Месяц назад +1

      @@obimalope8154
      Both words would make sense either way.

    • @obimalope8154
      @obimalope8154 Месяц назад

      @@Sallie_M pupe down, no one is speaking for you 😅

  • @jean55547
    @jean55547 Месяц назад +259

    She couldn't see that one CRAZY eyeball !!! 😳👀😂

  • @LostSoulsmusic22
    @LostSoulsmusic22 Месяц назад +19

    She thought she could put him on some kind of intense probationary program, receive his paychecks, drug test him, make him go to AA and counsiling, etc, etc.. no wonder this extremely dangerous man killed you

  • @ΦΡΑΝΣΟΥΑΖΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΙΔΟΥ

    He DOESN'T want to be rehabilitated

  • @Florida_Woman
    @Florida_Woman Месяц назад +24

    Whoa… this is crazy. Why?!?! Why would you ever put yourself in this position for basically a stranger.

  • @DonnaDeeTube
    @DonnaDeeTube Месяц назад +176

    she was treating him like a child, it was so creepy.

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +14

      That dude lied to her to get her to bail him out. He didn't care about rules, laws, truth, etc.

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад +19

      @@MrJuvefrankrules?? She orchestrated her own downfall

    • @twinturbo3461
      @twinturbo3461 Месяц назад +6

      @@MrJuvefrank Master sociopath.

    • @JaneDoe-ng3zm
      @JaneDoe-ng3zm Месяц назад +1

      She looks a lot older than him

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад

      @@Lenny77199 She made a big mistake trusting a punkie.

  • @legalcoffee5315
    @legalcoffee5315 Месяц назад +30

    He sounds completely out of it when she tells him what the terms of her bailing him out are.

  • @andrewdulaney1463
    @andrewdulaney1463 Месяц назад +28

    Take note, ladies. If a bail bond tries to tell you no, then listen.

  • @elainebmack
    @elainebmack Месяц назад +14

    In the phone call, she sounds like she's talking to a 10-year-old. He sounds like one too.

  • @annfinnegan2791
    @annfinnegan2791 Месяц назад +122

    She was so naive poor woman

    • @Anna-ww4pv
      @Anna-ww4pv Месяц назад +2

      Dysfunctional and controlling.

  • @notsorryyouretriggered
    @notsorryyouretriggered Месяц назад +396

    Imagine putting your home up as collateral for a felonious waiter. 😂 Catherine was insane

    • @TannilleBrown
      @TannilleBrown Месяц назад +93

      Especially considering she only knew him for a month

    • @peztopher7297
      @peztopher7297 Месяц назад +19

      'Mysterious romancer' scam, essentially.

    • @sneakyviewing4391
      @sneakyviewing4391 Месяц назад +7

      Yo Idk what you're talking about but everyone insane out here!

    • @luigimario4458
      @luigimario4458 Месяц назад +20

      Isn't the laughing emoji misplaced? Shouldn't it be the crying one?

    • @tjohnson7811
      @tjohnson7811 Месяц назад +16

      @@luigimario4458no, shouldn’t be. The emoji is correct.

  • @rachelsill79
    @rachelsill79 Месяц назад +37

    For a teacher, she wasn't very bright.

    • @andrewjosephdotson1359
      @andrewjosephdotson1359 Месяц назад +5

      Teachers don't have to be smart.

    • @a.maddox7250
      @a.maddox7250 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@andrewjosephdotson1359 Kindergarten teachers especially

    • @SunTingWong
      @SunTingWong Месяц назад +2

      @@andrewjosephdotson1359That explains everything

    • @Alwaysbeclosing1774
      @Alwaysbeclosing1774 Месяц назад +1

      She found out the hard way. Stay away from the hornets nest.

  • @doopil
    @doopil Месяц назад +14

    When he first called her asking her to bail him out she didn't have to explain herself in terms of her finances and whether she had collateral or not. All she needed to say was i cant help you, so long, Oh and don't contact me anymore. But she didn't do that and now she is dead.

  • @AC-le1jt
    @AC-le1jt Месяц назад +43

    She was talking to him like he was a child. Another case of misplaced empathy. Women need to accept reality and put their safety and wellbeing first. Such a vicious attack. RIP Cathryn. Wow. He injured cops like that and lived?

  • @11plus3
    @11plus3 Месяц назад +20

    Knows him a month and bails him out. The recording of her and him with her setting the rules he sounds about as interested in her as a hole in his head. How sad that someone is so desperate - she doesn’t care if anybody likes him or not! So darn sad.

  • @ryanponder679
    @ryanponder679 Месяц назад +15

    I bet when she was giving him the 6 rules to abide by when she gets him out, that's when he decided he was going to kill her.

  • @MichElle-zc9tu
    @MichElle-zc9tu Месяц назад +249

    not just 12 years younger than her but felonies, drugs, tattoo punk and she went after than monster? 😞 ladies wake up.

    • @loyaldogpublishingllc915
      @loyaldogpublishingllc915 Месяц назад +17

      12 years younger is not uncommon , after that yes!

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад

      @@loyaldogpublishingllc915yes it is and they never stay

    • @utubewillyman
      @utubewillyman Месяц назад

      They are excited by the bad boys. But if you ask them what they want in a man, they'll answer "a nice guy." They lack self-awareness and honesty.

    • @jameshall915
      @jameshall915 Месяц назад +7

      @@loyaldogpublishingllc915 ''12 years younger is not uncommon'' YUP!!
      when the woman's 12 years younger it is common, not an way older women with a man 12 years younger. women like that are creepy and weird AF.

    • @missstirring6063
      @missstirring6063 Месяц назад +9

      Felonies and drugs are the only thing wrong here

  • @stopmikeandjim3196
    @stopmikeandjim3196 Месяц назад +25

    She thought he was hot, and that's all that mattered

    • @kallel6588
      @kallel6588 Месяц назад

      And now she is cold 🥶 🤣

  • @trueloveingod2691
    @trueloveingod2691 Месяц назад +25

    Stories like this are so troubling. She was such a wonderful woman. RIP. She didn’t understand the nature of his inner demons. Love can’t save everybody, some are evil, don’t want to be saved.

    • @unite4peace88
      @unite4peace88 Месяц назад +3

      I'll bet $10 there was a decent, kind, single Dad trying to get to know her better. and being pushed away.

  • @Skatejock21
    @Skatejock21 Месяц назад +120

    She's so naive. While she didn't deserve to be killed, she still made a choice and bailed him out of jail. She made a choice and it came with a consequence.

    • @carriefawcett9990
      @carriefawcett9990 Месяц назад +2

      That's pretty insensitive 😢 poor lady. Even if what you're saying is true, wouldn't it be nicer to keep that opinion to yourself? If she was my relative I'd find comments like yours highly upsetting. I'm sure they already know she made a mistake without people rubbing their noses in it. Let's be kind.

    • @machfront
      @machfront Месяц назад +10

      @@carriefawcett9990Tragically, it’s not at all insensitive. It’s a very sad and harsh truth which the commenter admitted.

    • @josmclove4426
      @josmclove4426 Месяц назад +9

      ​@carriefawcett9990 you sound exactly like the type that would've posted bail for this killer monster

    • @Anna-ww4pv
      @Anna-ww4pv Месяц назад +4

      @@carriefawcett9990. Oh wow you are just like her. Don’t treat men like 5 year olds. Grow up. The woman allowed herself to be manipulated because, she thought she could save him.

    • @lovelylady7097
      @lovelylady7097 Месяц назад +1

      She was talking to him like she was his caseworker. If you listen to the call she definitely sounded like a caseworker and not a girlfriend!!

  • @LadyAngela678
    @LadyAngela678 Месяц назад +19

    Wow, he murdered her the same dang day she bailed him out.

  • @EndTheWokeMindVirus
    @EndTheWokeMindVirus Месяц назад +8

    The most shocking thing is... someone this unpredictably dangerous... could be let out on bail at all...

  • @jj-tv3cd
    @jj-tv3cd Месяц назад +27

    My condolences to her dog and family.

    • @clash4421
      @clash4421 Месяц назад +7

      Love that you included her dog. So sweet! Yes, condolences to her dog, her family, her friends and her students.

  • @sorenadix6411
    @sorenadix6411 Месяц назад +31

    "Make you lunch..."?! If she wanted a child, she could've adopted.

  • @elizabethmckelvie5418
    @elizabethmckelvie5418 Месяц назад +32

    Dear oh dear…how seriously naive of this woman….hes a serial liar, with no intention of following any of her plans…big red flags, and alarm bells ringing

    • @Brooklynlife1000
      @Brooklynlife1000 Месяц назад +4

      They weren't plans, it was her list of rules like he was a child and no woman beater is going to follow that. She thought she had herself a young man who will sleep with her and follow her rules. She was unrealistic and had weird control issues. She was definitely out of her league on this one. I have no respect for any woman who bails out a violent offender like this.

  • @kellijanssen1171
    @kellijanssen1171 Месяц назад +24

    She should have really listened when she was giving him the list of things he had to do. I could tell he was just saying ok to appease her.

  • @PalmBeachFlorida24
    @PalmBeachFlorida24 Месяц назад +50

    Unfortunately, Kathryn was delusional.

  • @Free2Me
    @Free2Me Месяц назад +16

    Sad. She turned into his parent. It was never going to work.

  • @jamesdyer9765
    @jamesdyer9765 Месяц назад +11

    My girlfriend of 8 years ran a background check on me before we started dating.i applauded her for it when I found out.nothing to hide,nothing to fear.

  • @virginia2949
    @virginia2949 Месяц назад +115

    How could a well educated woman be so clueless?

    • @MrJuvefrank
      @MrJuvefrank Месяц назад +7

      Maybe she copied every answer she gave in school.

    • @duancoviero9759
      @duancoviero9759 Месяц назад +62

      Education doesn't give life skills. She was likely very lonely and that plus physical attraction she decided to just throw all concerns and caution to the side to secure a relationship with this guy. Women do stuff like this all the time though.

    • @elleswiger9329
      @elleswiger9329 Месяц назад +56

      Some of the dumbest people I've met are educated to be educators.

    • @RogerLewis-ey2tt
      @RogerLewis-ey2tt Месяц назад

      Like a romance novel
      :-/. ​@@duancoviero9759

    • @RisseG03352
      @RisseG03352 Месяц назад +21

      Most of her interactions were with Kindergartners

  • @StinglikeaBea
    @StinglikeaBea Месяц назад +123

    Omg!! What is wrong with these women?!! This reminds me of these women who follow Wade Wilson

    • @snooopydooo
      @snooopydooo Месяц назад +23

      They need someone to save when they could really be saving themselves

    • @samezidrovibes
      @samezidrovibes Месяц назад +20

      What is wrong with these m3n??

    • @tjhookit
      @tjhookit Месяц назад +9

      @@samezidrovibes Apparently nothing..........they get money, love letters, and promises from thousands of women. If you don't believe me ask Chris Watts, Scott Peterson or Wade Wilson.

    • @Lenny77199
      @Lenny77199 Месяц назад +5

      @@samezidrovibeswomen that support them

    • @TanyaDolan
      @TanyaDolan Месяц назад +1

      Who's Wade Wilson?

  • @evelynwells-rk1ed
    @evelynwells-rk1ed Месяц назад +96

    This poor lady, I've quit dating years ago!!

    • @Jerseyboondocks
      @Jerseyboondocks Месяц назад +17

      Me too since 2015

    • @MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se
      @MonkeyDLuffy-gd6se Месяц назад +10

      probably smart if those are the guys you choose

    • @barbieburton1665
      @barbieburton1665 Месяц назад +4

      Me too. I don’t have time to be a man’s mama or door mat. I am content staying single. I have my kids, grandchildren and a great grandchild. I have a full life. I have supported myself for decades.

  • @Jack-kj1zu
    @Jack-kj1zu Месяц назад +16

    I've never understood why some women feel the need and want to fix grown men. Getting into a relationship where the person isn't self-sufficient is a recipe for disaster. You should build a life together not fix the other persons problems

    • @meredith2803
      @meredith2803 Месяц назад

      Well said, I’ve even had female friends wanting me to sort their messes out for them…no thank you. If you’re an adult you have to sort yourself out. Don’t mind helping others but there has to be limits.

    • @SunTingWong
      @SunTingWong Месяц назад

      They don’t want to fix anything…
      Women like her have control issues, they want someone to control..