How To: Get a Full Bucket of Dirt In A Wheel Loader
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Here is a quick how to video for a beginner on how to get a full bucket of dirt in a wheel loader. The same basic principals apply with skidsteers and track loaders as well. I am in a Cat 918M wheel loader. Like what you see? Check out The Dirt Ninja on Facebook here: / thedirtninja Be sure to hit the subscribe button to see new videos every week!
this was a random video i found but its awesome to see a completely different side of someone's job and doing it efficiently
This kind of video could really take your channel to new heights, it's so much more engaging than just watching you work! Thanks for the extra effort in putting something like this together.
+Jonathan H Thanks for watching! Check out my channel for a ton more How To videos just like this one!
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Jonathan H fill your bucket.
Hey, Thanks.... Just started learning and nice to have a few pointers, you have one of the better videos on RUclips.
I'm loader operator in Saudi Arabia im belongs from Pakistan l wants jobs
Jamel plenty jobs in Pakistan please stay there
You got the first part right
When you lift the boom as you entire the pile you are tipping the bucket down while continuing to drive into the pile
Then transition to curling bucket back
Full buckets every time with no bucking Bronco
I do it differently. I drive into the pile and boom up with my bucket level before i meet resistance, never spinning any tire (unless its wet) and keep booming up driving into it (which will drive the materiel into the corner and back of the bucket and then last 1/4 of the movement i curl up and slam a bunch up to heap my full bucket. then ride around on the front wheels. I find it takes awhile to learn to keep the bucket level for most people, any new operators just keep at it. any chance you get try to grade and level areas - don't rely on auto level.. you'll get to the point where you don't even look at the bucket or try to figure out what points look level (good way to dig holes un intentionally) you should just be able to feel what the bucket is doing.. if you're on hard materiel open a window and you can hear wether you are cutting or skating or dragging
+samvt Thanks for saying how you do it! All good points! Thanks for watching
+Dirt Ninja Think you could give that a try and include it in your vids? It would be interesting to see in comparison with what you've shown already. Or, maybe not. :-)
+Dirt Ninja i've used a skidsteer for a garage project and for basically just moving logs but the one thing i saw is when we moved some dirt with it i wasn't getting a full bucket of dirt
that video is for beginners only.
Another tip is to keep working different spots of the pile. I take one scoop from the middle then come in from either side of the first scoop. That narrow windrow the spills out from either side of the bucket is easier to penetrate and get a full load than constantly hitting the same spot
+hammerdwn20 Great point thank you for sharing!
73DiamondReo that’s what I told my wife is easy to penetrate and get a full load
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Backdrag the pile before you try taking a scoop out of it. It let's you load up what you had backdragged off of the pile with the larger pile acting as a backdrop to push the smaller pile of material against. Even backdragging smaller piles with the flat bottom side of your bucket can be a big help. This will give you some compaction in your pile if it's lose and also make the material load easier.
Always get your bucket down to the ground after you dump your material. Never keep your bucket high in the air, ESPECIALLY if you have a bucket full of material.
Practice without your auto level whenever you are not cutting on a surface that it is critical to keep your grade on. If there is no worry about digging a hole, ditch the Autolevel and work with the sides of your buckets as your visualization for your cutting edge.
As others have said, don't spin your tires. Don't wait until you stop before lifting up on the boom to put that downward pressure on the tire.
Great video bro. This is excellent advice for beginners. They just need to learn to put it all together as one fluid movement and not worry about doing this, then that, then this, then that.
lets, not let's
Back dragging is a waste of production time@@michaelanderson7715
@@michaelanderson7715 And yet Michael you still aren't getting full buckets
Thank you I'm watching from Tanzania 🇹🇿
As long as you're not really trying to dig into packed material, going in at an angle is fine. The trick is to unwind the steering wheel as you push in to keep the bucket pushing straight, and use the back wheels like the tail of a fish to push forward.
Great video… I send this to the people I want to run my loaders it’s perfect for training
I love the fact that you put the insert in this video. Watching what happens from both angles was very educational. Also, making it quick and simple with explanation on everything you did helped a lot. Thank you.
#1 DROP TO 1ST GEAR. Helps apply additional torque to the front.
#2 Left foot heavy on the left brake until you feel the slightest give. This will prevent wheel spin and possible loss of your job.
#3 lift boom while doing #2.
#4 rock bucket back in 6-12" pops. You shouldnt be bouncing in your cab. This is good for solid and soft piles.
#5 DONT DO A HARD SNAP AT THE END OF YOUR ROCK BACK! this damages your pins, boom, and bucket over time.
#6 Pull back until your bucket is a foot or 2 from the pile an give a quick shake forward and back to sluff your exess material that WILL fall during travel resulting in a loss or contamination of product.
#7 reverse from pile.
A good operator can fill an 8yd bucket of medium-hard material in under 30 seconds. When i started as a loader operator at my crushing pit, i had 1 minute from the time i finished dumping into the feeder to get to my stockpile, fully fill my bucket, return, and start dumping before my feeder would empty. If you spin tires youre wasting money(life of the tire & life of the cutting edge, theyre not cheap), and time.
Now this guy knowshow to operate a loader the other guys on here are helarious some peiple have it and some dont i work on a rock crusher as a feed loader and drive 70 k a day no time to spin or bounce around in the cab hamer down all day long more seat time you get the better youll be remembered you can feel if your becoming a good operator with your ass
You well speak about him but he everything know about equepmants that how to like cover I'm very agree on him teaching of loader operating he's much good thinking
@@shadabsiddiqui1027 no sir... It isn't correct.
full bucket in 30 seconds? what are you doing brewing coffee in the cab ? wow.
Don’t spin your tires!
you can also add even more dirt to your bucket by uncurling the bucket a tiny bit a couple of times on the way up way up
i'm not sure how i ended up on heavy equipment tutorial youtube, but this is a clear, concise, well designed and well executed video.
Great tip for us beginners
U forgot u have to shake the bucket too
Thank you. I found that very helpful
As a Sanitation worker, this machine is one of the tools I use to move trash.
I enjoyed this presentation as it is extremely relevant in my experience. Thank you!
Can you please go over the procedure to install and remove the bucket from this machine. It would be helpful to me to go over this procedure as we have at least three different attachments we use for various clearing situations.
Since I'm not privileged to be able to do those functions on a regular basis, I've gotten rusty on this procedure.
By the way, its 2022 and that 'self leveling' feature all the new ones have, hasn't materialized yet, still waiting.😆
Thanx in advance.
Good Stuff! Does this loader have the auto bucket features, as in one of your previous videos?
I really enjoy your videos BTW! I've been watching them off and on since I got out of the Army, and started learning how to operate more equipment!
When your teaching newbies, paint lines across the tires in the morning... at end of the day the paint better still be on there or they are spinning off good rubber.. then have another talk with them....
+Gregory A. Parsons haha, I like it!
+Dirt Ninja After over 46 years and 40,000 hours of operating on most anything with a engine, Planes, Helicopters, Pavers, Trucks, an alll the dirt bag Tractors stuff to make a job happen, you find/see all kinds of tricks.. Love your vids, reminds me of when I started out.... Hope Cat takes care of you with that New Dump Truck.....
Do it on a skid steer! Watch the newbie sweats as he tells the boss somehow the paint wore off in 2 minutes...
All the tires rotate at different rates, inner tires less, outer tires more. Paint the tires? Your stupid!
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I ran a backhoe for at least a billion hrs., (Conservatively speaking ) and my boss tried that shit with me one time...I just carried my own can of paint and painted the tires to piss him off. After a a couple million hrs of back hoeing ( conservatively speaking), The tires were worn out and bald but the tires had paint on them the whole time!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
I learned hard way that dont ever take soil to bucket when wheel loader is kind of an angle from the pivot point (english is not my native language so hard to explain this correctly), I was in a summe job on local town and I wasspreading top soil to new lawn, and the pile was behind corner. I took soil to th e bucket so that the wheel loader was pivoted to angle nad machine slid agianst the building wall. I ha to call the person who drives the wheel loader and had to ask help, ...
What tips do u have on scooping up broken up concrete? How about loading on uneven ground that has holes and dips.? I enjoy your vids can you show some tips on real life scenarios? For example I operate on a landfill, in the North East and we load concrete, clean fill, dirty dirt, wood chips, yard waste, and the ground isn't always hard and flat,. It varies depending on weather, or spillage from trucks or other operators, and divots. One thing I struggle with is loading rock piles.
Really helpful man appreciate the video
Thanks, mate!
I'm in an engineering class and we have to build a skid steer type robot and pick up the most amount of 1/2 inch blocks and this definitely will help. Do you know the best type of bucket you think?
Always have a low center of gravity with a full bucket as well. Keep the bucket low while driving otherwise you'll tip over while turning at higher speeds. I found that out the hard way when I went up on two wheels and shat a brick.
It helped me a lot taking new job and will load own truck some days thank you 🙏
How to install and remove the bucket on this front end loader?
Looks easy enough....!!
Dude you got to keep making these kind of videos you are going to get lots of views all the learning on heavy machinery.. don't you guys and girls agree..???
good job bro explain good
two camera angles very helpful
Would love to see more how to videos. Very helpful stuff
lift up BEFORE Spinning wheels which digs a fricking hole and makes yur work area frickin uncomfortable and screws up the cycle
Hi, Dirt Ninja.
That's all very well with stockpiled loose gravel. There is a bit more involved in digging tight material straight out of a bank.
Still and all, it's good to see somebody taking the time to try to educate the newcomers. Thanks for that.
Just my 0.02.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
I showed a 3 yr guy the top of the bucket that you can use it as a source of level to make sure your bucket is straight with the ground. He was shocked lol
Is there an option on the 918m that disengages the self leveling system? I've tried everything to get mine to work with no luck? The float works great when you pick the stick all the way forward but I get no response when I push the stick all the way to the left to self level?
dude, you are making educational video and spinning front wheels. thanks for the laugh.
Shave the front of that pile is your booming up with that bucket and you won't jerk so much. Take it from a guy who runs a wa800 pit loader
On my yale 2000 you get good at that fast manually or you lose money and time
@Dirt Ninja randy with heavy metal learning covered this topic with a komatsu aswell as the things that can get the operator in trouble on wheel loader or even a track loader
Lol, so it levels itself out, bit of young cheating going on there, how’s som mine supposed to learn if it does it for them. Lol
very good instructional video, I think it is needed and will help the new guys out, one thing i'd like to add. keep your work area level. as in your video when you were demonstrating loading the bucket as soon as the tires slipped you stopped. the new guys starting this will spin the tires like satchbooggy said and if you don't level the area back up it only adds to the problem, load your truck then come back and dress the area a little it will make your day a lot easier. I've seen new guys damn near roll the machine in front of a pile. looking forward to more videos
+james vos Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Excellent points!
Thank goodness now I can go sleep knowing that I have to scup and lift scup lift so I can get a full bucket
If you cant get a full bucket guys need to stay away
There are about 6 ways to fill it....I could sure show you a few tips. Good work.
Hey love the video really helped me out. I was wondering if you had any pointers on grading with the bucket?
Let’s be real it’s not rocket science
Rocket appliance
I add to my guys to back drag some off the top if its a tall pile and don't spin the tires too much goin in or you have to back out and bunny hop through the ruts. engage 4x4 if equipped to help cut down on the tire spin. and don't roll the bucket back until it bangs hard every time.btw...none of them listen to any of it haha
+satchbooggy haha all good points thanks!
+satchbooggy the new ones don't even bang hard when you curl back :( makes picking up windrows for motor graders kinda hard,bucket curls soooo slow
+Dirt Ninja What machines do you have for your new company?
+Onyknutsen The only machine I own is the John Deere 200lc excavator.
You know your onions kid. Nice tip!
How do u know when u hit the floor wiv bucket
Probably should have seen this first but figured it out by now. Problem I have with a 38HP HST CUT is if filling the bucket full the machine can just barely manage the weight. Then there is screening rocks with a rake bucket that weighs half the lift cap of the tractor. Always get a bigger machine...
Your instructions are very helpful except for one thing. After you initially enter the pile and pick up your bucket roll your bucket forward and down to push the dirt to the back of the bucket and it will be much easier to get a full bucket of dirt, try it out buddy
This guy is Bang on, rolling forward fills it
Thank you man. Could you show how to load trailer
The information given is decent, but "the dirt ninja" isn't that experienced. While loading the bucket, it should be a nice and smooth motion. As soon as material starts to go inside the bucket, raise the boom a bit until you feel the wheels about to spin, and then pull the level the rest of the way, and immediately after dig the bucket in a way that it'll be full by the time it's rasied completely. Not boom raise, dig, boom raise, dig nonsense. You'll lose traction, and it'll be a rough ride, and unnecessary wear on the machine. The idea is to be smooth.
Back dragging the pile is very important if your working a large pile if you don’t you end up under mining.. next thing that’ll happen is everything above that will come down on the bucket causing the machine to flip forwards. Our stock pile is about 60’ tall that’s a lot of material to come crashing down
Thanks
Want a real tip from a real operator. He is telling you to watch at the end of the bucket, while he knows that he is actually going by the feel. In other words, the best technic you can and should apply to this, is the technical everyone uses when driving a car or truckers use. When you drive your vehicle, you can pretty much guess where your tires are gonna go through, just by the feel. The truckers, on large truck they can't see the end, they get a sense of the length of the tail and they have it in mind all the time. On the bucket of the loader, tiled the bucket to the front as if you were dropping material. Lower the bucket to the ground (don't level the bucket) hit the ground with the tip of the bucket. In a different perspective as if you are tapping the floor with the tip of you toes/foot/shoe. The point is, not to see, but to get a sense where that edge is and have a sense where it is at, at all times. Once you hit the ground with the tip, level bucket keeping in mind where the tip is at. Don't level the bucket perfectly when dropping it on the ground. This is how it works, drop the bucket to the ground intending that the edge/lower tip of the bucket hits the ground 1st. That's it. It's all by a sense of where that tip is at. Then push on forward as you raise the bucket and til it back, all at the same time as you are going in. Your bucket should be full
if you look the flat edge he points out a the beginning runs the full length of the bucket . look at that then your not looking either side of bucket but always looking straight ahead. and you always hit the face/heap square on which in turn creates a even break out force on your UJ (universal joints) on your driveshaft . if your lucky like me you could have a machine that lets you add or take away power from the drive train which in turn prevents wheel spin
I find that when I’m scooping loose gravel it’s no problem to get a full bucket but when I’m scooping out of a hard packed hillside or something I can never get a full scoop
You should use a counter weight on the 3PTH equiv to capacity of the loader. Front ends are not designed for loader specs. Commercial Loaders are articulated or have a 5,000 lb backhoe on the rear. If you plan to do a lot of Loader work, also try and purchase a bucket equal to the width of the tractor. IE my tractor is 48 inches wide and came with a 54" bucket. I build a 48" bucket and it out performs the factory bucket by a large margin. Factory bucket is good for snow and hauling firewood.
Dude your going to destroy your transmission like that.
Also if your jerking/ bouncing around your doing something wrong!
in the world world Tire spin like you're doing especially soft material is a no no in the world you keep doing that Tire spin ....you won't have a job... this video is more for 5 year old kids with Tonka toys in the backyard
I didnt see any tire spin when I went into the pile for real... I saw some when I was going slow to show how I do it but not when I was doing it for real... Thanks for watching, I guess that makes you a 5 year old for watching the entire thing :)
Ur video is more like cheap entertainment and actually you gave us all a laugh at work... boss said you talk too much... and actually he thought the video was more like a cartoon we had to tell him you were serious about your advice but we thank you for your video we all got a good laugh if you could post some videos that pertain too real front end loader operation
Did he think it was an animated cartoon? If so you may want to tell him to get his eyes checked!! What company do you work for? Im glad I provided some entertainment for you all!
Randall HighSmith your full of shit
Randal, go find me a pipe stretcher at Home Depot please.
Just wondering where you told not to spin the tires?
I really needed to see this
LOL that's funny reminds me of last week I had to put a shovel guy on the loader ours has tabs welded on the top of the bucket and painted red I had to keep reminding him keep those red tabs flat he was digging hole in front of the pile but it's only dirt I would just get behind the pile and push it forward so he can keep scooping and carrying
If you spin your tires that much on any respectable job site you would be yelled at ALOT
Who pays for your tyers. Never spin your tyers
I personal would drive into the pile a little bit faster and slowly but consistently tilt the bucket up instead of raising the bucket
thanks
My boss would've chewed my ass for spinning my tires like that
Others have noted the wheel spin which shouldn't happen in relatively loose stockpiles of gravel. Even when digging raw native pit run gravel wheel spin can be avoided. Just use a little less throttle when pushing in.
My company uses this video as what not to do lol its going to be a long day bouncing through your ruts all day and spinning tires
I am loader operator from Ethiopia
thanks, just got my first tractor and had a pile of gravel delivered and was not getting full buckets. This will help. thanks
I'm lodar op
Do you have your NCCCR license to operate that wheel loader?
Amazing
Excellent tips for us newbies! Thanks!
+Donna M. Schmid Thanks for watching!
Heres a tip from a very highly trained operator. Start 5 feet from the pile and make sure you start in and get 4 inches below level of the base of the pile then go in.
Sounds like a good way to make holes, “4 inches below level”
I have auto level
Your video is not clear
Spin those tires and your gonna tear the beads, work your bucket more less throttle.
terminology is such a challenge when it comes to a written test ?? to me this is a " grade up load "
Never let material fall off the back side of the bucket
I always used to click into auto raise and rock it back and forth until it was full, good for beginners though
Nope not right bro.
thank you! thank you everyone else for further comments and helpful hints
you can feel it in your seat
I disagree with raising the bucket when your driving into the pile. It's a lot harder on the machine than tilting the bucket back as you drive in.
Ryan Seppanen in gravel or sand that's fine to just tilt it back and get a full bucket. But in a hard material you have to boom up and tilt at the same time to get a full bucket
Kool. Thanks
My boss complained to me that there was no way in hell i was putting only 4 buckets (18m³ roughly which is the max they can carry) of gravel in the trailers we were using to haul between work areas. He claimed the difference in the amount of material between trailers was roughly a full bucket and decided to come watch me (thought i was putting 5 buckets for 22m³) He then spent the next 2 hours teaching the other drivers how to properly use a wheel loader but didn't say a thing to me after giving me a speech on how dangerous it is to over load, and how badly it can damage the trailers..
That's cool. You're bad ass.
Good video
Very good
Not as handy for RWD backhoes.
Excellent video. The operators in Denmark need to watch this.
Thank y ou lever son much thé d'art ninja for all of thèse technics
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