underground facilities that involve the military and German scientists arriving to the States and Canada after world war 1. Indeed red mouse 1967 is spot-on correct.
@@pedrotiznado8541 ...The madness., has always been an issue...the fact all govt(s)...have played a big part, to the demise of their own people, this has been a crime towards all humanity from around the world...Evil is, What it is,..a parasite that has infused it's self into the world...it is all garbage that will soon come to it's demise...
Everyone has heard of Josef Mengele, but virtually no one has heard of Sidney Gottlieb, despite him being the head of MK-ULTRA, supervising the mind control experiments involving drugs, and being a poison master. Why? Because he was the Jewish version of Dr. Mengele, so the media, news, and Hollywood don't acknowledge the existence of him or his dark crimes.
Jela Florin I was watching some episodes of “Supernatural” just because it was on. It was from probably 9-10 years ago. The episode was about a virus called corona/ or very similar that caused people to turn into some type of flesh eating/vampirish virus.?? There are WAY too many things that were put out on TV, Internet... then years later it comes to truth. Like 9/11!! WTF is happening.
@@NicholeVaughnSunnyGirl They have a different persception of time.They hide history, knowledge and kill us off, on regular bases.The plan longer terms. Same old story
Dear... things like that dont happening around the world. i live in the netherlands - Europe and our gonverment doeesnt do such horrible things to us! we are safe , happy and our laws are protecting us ! And as European i know that also in germany , spain , italy , greece and other countries things like that we see them only in Holywood movies! i am very sorry that this happen to your country and are real ... i guess is terrible to feel so unsafe and powerless . I wish Americans will find peace and have for a gonverment someday that does the job correct, that respects you , protect you and help you in your difficult times instead to put you in them! all my best wishes
NEVER send your loved one to a "Behavioral Health" Institute. My brother and I were in separate institutes and both of us were traumatized. A teen was raped in the one I was at and many of us weren't given our blood pressure or heart medications. We were served spoiled food, which we didn't eat. I starved for 4 days before my mom got a lawyer to get me out. Little did I know that they were holding me against my will since I had went there voluntarily. They will make up reasons to force a longer stay.
I've know for over 30 years this existed, a patient told me about it in California. At the time I was so naive, but it never left me, I'll never forget him
My mother was one of these patients. It affected myself, my older brother and my younger sister. We ended up in foster homes for years because my mother was incapable of looking after us until she met my step-father. Even when we got back together as a family my mother was not a good mother and was very anxious, an alcoholic and fought with severe depression.
Oh for God sakes how disturbing! Who ever came up with the slogan of, "Our earth is ruled and run by psychopaths " wasn't joking.... sickos real sickos.
This is so evil. How is it that no one was held accountable for this? Preying on the most vulnerable in such a disgusting way. And this really happened not even a conspiracy theory.
"Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired." JFK
My parents both worked in mental institutions in Australia. I am sure the same thing happened here in Australia. The things that went on was incredible. We lived close to the facility you could hear the patients screaming all day and night.
@@barneyronnie dark but we must be honest with ourselves!! My grandfather was a scientist and tested on animals which I have always loudly disapproved of. Wrong is wrong. Simple as.
Targeted Individuals often end up in mental institutions against their will. Remote Neural Hacking is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
I never experienced anything like that but it broke my heart too. I know how much it meant to me to have my mom home from work to tuck me in - I can't imagine how awful this was!
I'm a former naval officer and a graduate of the United States Naval Academy. I recommend reading Project: Soulcatcher by Dr Robert Duncan. It explains the current program very well. The man was a former CIA engineer and holds multiple degrees from Harvard and Dartmouth. He helped build some of the current weaponry.
Yeah, it just changed tactics. The police where i live were actually selling "bad dope" not too long ago, mostly meth that wasn't made right or had toxic chemicals added to it that would kill even seasoned addicts. The picked up drugs they knew were dangerous, then gave it to CI's to sell. My dad used to be a dealer back in the 60s and 70s and back then the FBI was one of the biggest suppliers of cocaine and LSD in the state.
So when people came back from the war and they showed positive feelings toward the enemy the government thought that there must be something wrong with them? It's still the same way now, if you don't think exactly how the government demands you think they assume something is wrong with you. Interactions between law enforcement and civilians is a great example of this, as soon as you don't want to cooperate with law enforcement or act like you don't like them, they immediately start asking you if you need to see a mental health professional, like people are not allowed to have a choice when it comes to how we feel about law enforcement and the government. The government and law enforcement are definitely not our friends, videos like this prove it.
@@mrose4132 Yes, the government is literally shaping the ideologies of the future by teaching kids in school how to think. . In another 20 years the government will have everyone under their all ruling thumb, indoctrinating the kids that fit their system and casting aside the ones that don't. The government definitely wants their Hierarchy to have complete control over ever citizen, and they're using our children to get what they want, there's no doubt in my mind that you're right about that one.
@mrose4132 mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
This still happens . My friend has been held againgst his will at a psychatric hospital in alberta for over 10 years and is still there. If he tries refusing the drugs they strap him down and inject him. He has never been charged with a crime , but theres nothing i can do about it. Its disgusting.
get in touch with police and the fifth estate and tell them. Do you visit? Record waht you see if you have a covert cam. Or would you be worried about comprimising your safety by geting involved?
There's a series on Utube... Soft white underbelly... A woman who suffered post partum pyschosis and her husband interviewed. Said having a mental disorder-a over age 18-you yourself are treated like a criminal-you have zero rights and your family/partner/even parents have zero say/rights in your treatment or even release! It's scary. I believe you. She had to fake her way out. I hope your friend makes it out of there.
My Dad was one of these poor souls. It was very painful seeing this show. I truly hope that this Goverment does what is right and long overdue. I wish i knew how to make this right for me Dad even if he has passed on.Someone should pay for what was done.
Shawn Andersen no they probably won't . but they will pay jihadi's 10s of millions of dollars for killing r troops because they where in the teens and considered child soldiers . the U.S will lock up children that kill there abusers for life . they lock up Canadian kids for the same but they get released after decades . 90grand is all these people get bullshit u should go to the press or a lawyer . My heart goes out to u and ur father .GOD BLESS
I'm sorry to hear. We'll never know how many covertly manipulated by these horrible scientists. It's a daily challenge to not wish vile acts on them. I'd only make myself ill. Take good care of yourself! ☺
Dearest Shawn, I just saw this 5th Estate show but not entirely sure when it did originally air. I am so terribly sorry for both yourself, your father and what all of your family have been through. Whether the Gov would require you to sign an NDA upon agreement of a settlement to the family, that you would have to find out way down the line. But I hope you have met with legal counsel and discussed what if anything could be done on behalf of your father's case. My very best wishes to you and your family, be well.
This is horrific!!! And I’m certain it’s still ongoing. You can’t tell me the government has grown a heart and decided to stop these type of experiments. I’m disgusted Praying for all those people affected by it. We just passed through Nevada. I remember saying to my husband, “I wonder why no one has built any homes on this land?” He told me right then it’s because of all the chemical testing our government did. Now I see😩😩😩
It's still happening. It happened to me. The man I have kids by is in politics. I was harassed by him and his wife. I'm still being harassed/discredited.
@@kjones5588 😔 get away from them if you can. Who cares what people say or think, what matters is YOU. You know your heart and soul, don't let them gaslight you with their nonsense. I'm learning to stop caring and needing to prove myself, there are evil people out there and the best thing to do is completely disengage. Engagement gives them power. Sending love and solidarity to you my internet sister ❤️xxx
They have been doing this and worse since there was ever anyone in a place of power. What's even more surprising and pathetic, is that there are so many people who don't believe this, and instead believe that the governments are helping them and keeping them safe........LOL. Soooo many missing children and people of all ages.............gee, i wonder who took them and is using them for nefarious means?? Any guesses? The Black Shadow Government! That's who.
@@ms.lisamarie2245 quit blaming gov't officials for taking and abusing and trafficing children already! Be mad at the gov't here in the US for not offering us medical care for the damage they cause with using citizens as guinea pigs and not taking care of the generations afterwards that these and other horrible experiments still are causing us!
This evil and vile treatment of humans seeking help for mental illness issues renders those who administer this treatment inhumane demons. This makes me cry in my heart.
To understand = to stand under/ below. They can only understand control through obuse, deceit, theaft, force, fear, egoism and murder. Not the material(nurturing) world.
It is WISE to know and educate yourself about your enemies, and especially their weaknesses. The elite's weakness is money, power, pedaphilia. Their weakness is that they want to stay in the shadows.............so throw them under the spotlight!! You want to know what they are really like?! Talk to their enemies. Talk to the people they've hurt and destroyed.
I was 5 in 1975 : one night after my father tied me and my brother who was 2 to my parents bed and beat my mom with their green dresser drawer. Now my memory of what happened next is bits and pieces. my mom able to call police. They came and took my mom to a (hospital) GALESBURG ILLINOIS RESEARCH HOSPITAL FOR THE MENTALLY ILL. and sent me and my brother with my father for 1 month. It was the 70’s. My mom said my father said she to police she was crazy. My mom admitted to being very angry and yelling trying to get away from police. Obviously she was beaten and my father was going home and she with police. [i remembered the beating and at 8 asked my mom why she went to the hospital.. the rest of the story told to me then] 3.5 weeks later I remember my maternal grandmother picking my brother and I up with our belongings to go get my mom from the hospital. The time at my fathers and his girlfriend my brother and I were physically abused daily. He was mentally challenged and my dad’s girlfriend said he was cursed by the devil. When my father went to work my brother was put in a closet all day and I in the attic with her 7 boys who abused me. We did not get fed and were to act normal when my father came home. Remember we stayed there 3.5 weeks. Anyway... what I remember next was that a old man the doctor that took care of my mom and got her released came to check on her well being and my brother and I. Sometime later my parents were divorced and we moved in with the doctor. He lived on the grounds of the mental hospital where many doctors lived that worked there. I would go to his office with him often. He took care of the adolescent ward. In his office there was a window so he could see them in the day room and they him. They liked him. But when I was there we had to cover the window because they would beat on the door, bang their head, screams and cry if they saw me. I remember being SCARED they were not normal. I remember looking through the window once when he left me in his office alone. They were tied to their bed, in these cream colored coats that wrapped all the way around them and tied down so they could not move even their feet. It gave me nightmares. I was told they acted crazy that was why. Obviously what we now know as a straight jacket. We lived there until I was almost 7 then moved to a house. Our beds at the hospital apt were what the pts had. Solid metal twin beds nearly impossible to move and mattress was single and very heavy as well. My step-dad who became my dad worked at the hospital until early 1983 when they had completely closed the hospital. They closed most all mental hospitals then and sadly those pts were put in group homes that they could find and the others became our homeless population on our streets today. My step-dad was 55 yrs old and my mom 25 when they met. I learned years later that my mom was beaten by staff, tied to a wheelchair and forced to eat the half cooked eggs on her plate and burnt with the cigarette she had lit. The doctor(my dad) was on call for the adult side the night my mom was admitted. He realized she was not mental but a battered woman with 2 children one that was cerebral palsy and other issues and only 2 yrs old. He told her to just do what staff said and when he got there in the morning he would bring her to his office for Puerto Rican coffee and cigarettes. She did not like breakfast in the morning. My mom was a nurses aid at a local hospital. One night at the mental hospital her roommate who was pregnant asked for a glass of milk. The nurse would not give it to her and ended up tying her down because she had walked to the door to ask a second time. My mom was mad. Being a nurses aid she knew if she got hurt she would see the doc. My mom put her fist thru those ice cube tiles and cut open her hand and wrist. The doctor came (my soon to be dad) and stitched my mom up and had the nurses get the pregnant woman some milk and untie her. That is said to be when the doctor told my mom I need to get you out of here. My mom did have some depression and suicidal tendencies as she was sexually molested by her stepfather from grade school through graduation. Became pregnant at 16 and sent away to have the baby and give her up. The father was a man my mom babysat for. His wife never was told and my moms real father although her parents were divorced was in service and did not ever know my mom had a daughter. He was mentally abusive to my grandmother. Anyway the doc became my dad and due to his age and having his own office after leaving the hospital he made his own hours. Beginning in 1st grade we started traveling over seas. I would start school in Illinois then we would pack the house up rent it to a professor or student from Knox college and go to Puerto Rico 2x, Barcelona x2, England 2x and Ireland to live. Obviously that was divided up between years. That was the order. It was the best and my stories are amazing as were my experiences. My step dad and mom divorced but remained very good friends. And ... well many more good and not so good things happened to me but It has all made me the strong and caring person. I have some issues but now 50 have learned to accept what I can not change. My mom has passed as well as the Doc my dad. My biological dad returned to Mexico when he retired from Caterpillar as a Engineer with 3 patents for Engines he built and they use to this day. I have not seen him or spoken to him except 2x when he moved 8 yrs ago. He left my stepmom a beautiful house he built to take care of his dying sister in Mexico Then did not ever return. He stays married to my wonderful step-mom since I was 7 but lives his life with the nurse who cared for my aunt when she was dying. He is 76 now and can not speak due to cancer and removal of his throat, voice box. I will not ever speak to him again. His girlfriend made him sell all 3 homes my dad and grandpa built and I do not even have an address. She wants the money and properties he owns. She is only 58. Ok so sorry I kept writing. Bless each of you during this time and may you stay healthy and positive. Change is happening on Earth and life is going to be better.PEACE
Thank you for telling your story! You have been through so much including your mom and your siblings. If I may ask is your sibling with cerebral palsy still alive?
I learned about this in the early 70's from a colleague at work who bragged about the CIA LSD experiments that they were involved in at McGill University. Strange, this person lived in Knowlton, the same town as the person interviewed in this documentary.
Canada’s pseudo-intellectual occultist professor Jordan Peterson studied there too.. ever wonder how he can get so many people to listen to his drivel and shower him with money? only explanation is pure hypnosis cause the guy is bonkers!!
@@tetrahedron1000 no, the reverse... i dont agree with him because i dont take advice from people who are bonkers. dont care if they have a title or letters around their name
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim No weapon formed against us shall prosper. Jesus took EVERYTHING on that Cross for us. 2 Timothy 1 "For God has not not given us the spirit of fear, But of Power Love and a Sound Mind."
My aunt sue in the guelph area i believe fits in this group of victims. I feel horrible for all of these victims. Hopefully fifth estate keeps exposing these types of deplorable acts like project gaslight and too many others
I was just a boy.. Me my dad a crazy German man and a lawyer broke in and took out my mother..She was on 13 drugs they knew her body was allergic to totally destroyed hanging from her bed growling and foaming from the mouth.. She was 1 of 8 in them jail rooms.. I will never forget this since it went on for 6 years.
I feel so mad about how these victims were treated like lab rats! It feels so upsetting to me how they were denied the right to refuse the experimentation !
Finally someone else in the world realizes this! To further elaborate Ment comes from the Latin word Mentis which means mind. Using the word Enlightenment for comparison it's undeniable the root of the word. Govern is an obvious one ;but in the defense of the control grid, the majority of the population are asleep at the wheel and are dangerous so they require a Shepard. They're parasitic in their blind consumption of our host. The biggest tool for control is language and English was created to be the language of slaves. Another one of my sayings is: The word Society is the word the English used to brand on their slaves, now we brand ourselves society and speak English.I could literally talk for hours about it ;but unfortunately no one is listening.....
RoCk ShaDoW-WaLkEr Ive been awake since I was about 20. Started researching all the lies I was told my entire life. I’ve watched & read stuff about the English language and how it’s a “cursed” language. If you have any good sources of info about it I am extremely interested & want to learn more.
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr Some people, especially those aware or awake, like to learn and want to know what the words mean and how they break down. Some of us are taking the time to read what you have to say.....so don't stop on account of all the brainwashed morons running around.
Survivors you are exceptional in your demonstrated ability to persevere, and your courage to alerting the public about this horrific part of Canadian history, and psychiatric abuse. I would appreciate very much knowing which lawyers and law firm defended your case and which lawyers and law firm defended the government position.? I am so far unable to find that information on my search.( I am a researcher).? Thank you
I remember going to visit my brother there when I was 18 years old in 1973 he was a zombie so drugged out he commit suicide 4 years later by jumping in front of into the subway.I remember being so horrified after my visit with him.
yes. If people actually take the time to look for evidence supporting conspiracy claims.......then people would find it, no problem. But they refuse to even look. Because they are scared what they will find. Well, just cause they are too scared to hear it, or read about it...............doesn't mean it isn't true!! It's pathetic and cowardly to not face the truth!
I just happened to find this video ..... boy oh boy does it ring a bell. My grandmother was interned there , but her doctor name was not Cameroon. It was doctor Getzler. From what I remember she was severely medicated and I had been told by my dad that she’d received shocks to heal 5 people . I remember my dad trying to investigate later on what had happened to her at the Allan Memorial under dr Getzler care ...... he was told that all of his files had been burned in a fire . How convenient!!! My grandmother was never the same person after that . They must of fried her brains . This documentary was quite enlightening and gives me hope that I may ba able to learn something from her file .
I am not quarantined. Who and when has the world ever quarantined healthy people?? I know all the answers but they do not add up. Our economies around the world are crumbling and I do not see them coming back. Anyone who thinks this is for our own good better think again. If you were scared a virus (please research, false positives, empty hospitals, reused media clips, fruit pulp from fruit grown on trees in Africa being tested under fake names testing positive for Corona, cancers, natural death numbers plummeted because hospitals get kickbacks marking everything as corona. A baby died by accidental smothering and they listed it as Covid. Fucci predicted this pandemic. How can someone predict when a pandemic happens???!!! There is an agenda and the world will never, never be the same. This IS the beginning of new world order. Wake up for Gods sake. Wake up for your own sakes. If nothing else wake up for your children's sakes. Research. Turn off the tv. Stop being complicit. It is easier to deceive than to convince someone they have been deceived. Just one person please hear me. We have to speak up. I assure you I am not a conspiracy theorist. I seek truth and it is not easy to find when it is being censored. I'm not religious but God bless us all. We HAVE to wake up. I cannot stay silent. It only takes one person to start looking. Yes it is work. Yes. It is scary. Knowledge is power and we the people are the only ones who can change what seems to be in the works already. Thanks to anyone who reads this and starts asking different questions.
I know that people put their relatives into mental institutions in the 1940´s and 1950´s easily in California and possibly this also occurred in other states as well. If a person went into shock, they placed them in a mental institution instead of helping them ease out of a shock or traumatic experience. We had an uncle who had been placed as pre-teen in a Catholic Seminary in Southern California--that was the only life he ever knew for over a decade--he and his older brother. It was a Spanish custom--or perhaps Irish also to dedicate a child or two to the church, This is what occurred, his older brother whom he was bonded with the most had a fatal accident playing football at the seminary. The football players did not wear helmets at the time this occurred--it might have been in the late 30´s. I am not sure because I wasn´t born at that time, but when his older brother died of brain injury he went into shock. The doctors recommended the Camarillo Mental Hospital. There he remained until an aunt an I took him out about 30 years later. At that time, I embraced the teachings from the Bible and she and I had the faith to take him out and help him for the remaining years of his life. He never was quite normal again, but he lived in a group home where my aunt and I monitored him and visited him often and helped him live a more normal life.
It’s horrifying how mental health was treated like this. I watched the old fifth estate episode about this. Whilst these people were actively in a coma I’m worried that people may have been assaulted… just because tragically I’ve heard of things like that happening in psych wards before.
Sexual depravity has crept around since biblical times. Some procure their fantasies at the expense of their victims, forcefully and brutally. Others, cowardly perpetrate those who seem weak and easy prey. Both types of freaks are horrendous. There's NO cure for what ails them! 😤
I believe if the people of the world actually knew what their governments were truly up to what followed would be an event like no other in the history of human life on earth. Actually knowing the motivations behind the actions we see on the world stage; disclosure of all secrets and crimes against humanity would let the citizens know just where they stood and it wouldn't be pretty.
I had my first existential crisis at 10-11 years old and got admitted to a psych hospital. Though I didn’t know there was a title for what I was going through at the time. Let me tell you, looking back, I was just a super enlightened kid. I started actually going crazy in that environment quite quickly though. (And that started before I began the plethora of prescriptions that made things worse.)
@@toomaskotkas4467 Canada is Socialist. Capitalism makes the rich richer and the poor richer. It's the best system mankind has ever come up with. Dummy.
So when the family members of these individuals came to visit, how did they not immediately see that the conditions were deplorable, and that their loved one’s mental and emotional state had been completely altered and they needed to be removed immediately? It sounds like no one advocated for them. Not the husband or anyone. Even before being admitted to these psyche hospitals, did they not first go for a visit to see what the facility was like? And how does it sound normal for your wife or whomever to be away for months or even years at a psychiatric hospital for help with post-partum depression? How is that even good for you when you’re now raising your children completely alone? How did that sound normal to them? And for the ones who were allowed to go home for periods of time, why did they not just stay home? This is very frustrating.
@@2degucitas how are you going to sue? I'm sorry it just wouldn't happen although that is the right thing an what the majority would want it just wouldn't happen. Yes its sad, but its the reality, but what can we expect from such a corrupt system that would do such in-humane experiments in the first place.
I'm wondering if some of these things happened to me as a child. My family is being investigated for human trafficking and theres a lot of brainwashing and grooming stuff that's come up. Its kinda similar to this.
Victimized here. Cuttingitshort. Been isolated and hypnotized and emotionally and mentally tortured for 4years until now. Ate nothing. Drank nothing. Just acid inside the body.halluscinating. Just lying inside my room for 4years and still counting. My country is philippines
I really would never expect CBC to talk on this subject. If you know about this CBC, what else do you know? Are you taking note that we the people get upset when you constantly push the bogus Liberal agenda? We are calling for your defunding, is this your way of saying “we’re listening and we are sorry.”? Keep on posting truth. We the people need the truth, it’s the only way to change for the better.
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
This would be the third 5th Estate episode and I've already noticed that Canada is really got some evil going on. What an erie place to be exploited and abused. I pray all those victims get compensated.
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To beat the communists was the reasoning they used to conduct mk ultra ;this experiment was done during the cold war, western countries were paranoid the Soviet union was conducting mind control experiments
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I have to admit, this is one issue the US Government has handled better than the Canadian one. Not sure about compensation, but there were serious Congressional hearings and a public apology from the US Government, continued suppression of the truth up north. Truly shameful!
The Fifth Estate by far reports on their cases much better than many things we have here in the US. Yes we have a handful a great outlets, mostly independent sources. But these here are always pretty good. We need for a mainstream news outlet to report this well.
I wouldn't accept any hollow apologies from the beast system! Eventually EVERYONE will get a taste.. You can't ignore a growing beast in your neighbors back yard.. It is what it is...
I would like to know who's idea it was to do something like this to innocent people. I'm not talking about the CIA, I'm talking about, who was in the think tank that started this whole thing and who gave the ok? What a horrific life this was.
@@joanhage5952 Wait- I was hasty. I apologize. You were wishing the poster well and I took it wrong. I'm the one with the dumbs here (and some religious trauma, but it's no excuse for me)
The Fifth Estate should interview the workers of this hospital. Anyone that worked with and for the Doctor. They have the real true story. I'm sure some, if not all, will tell you something about what they did to these people. Evil is never forgotten. Neither inside a person.
What beats me is that there are "fellow humans" who are quite happy to participate in the torture of humans, seems to me those are the ones in desperate need of "treatment".
This one is not over, its very real today! The torture and testing is happening to victims at heart me and work today! 17 years today... constantly being tortured. Please, bring this to the surface!!!
People in the government should have been put in prison. The ones covering it up today should also be in prison. Now people are talking about being targeted electronically and having voices put in their heads by someone in the government sitting behind a computer.
So sad Canadian Government can compensate 1.8 MILLION dollars to a terrorist. They won't give a dime to Canadian citizen who suffered from this torture.
That is the most shocking part. I used to be all for LGBQ rights but now I am seeing it for what it is. Confused souls. Purposely confused. That's the sad part.
@@oliviasondo8277 even worse deliberately confusing children, the old divide and conquer the sad thing is people are now so spaced out on pharma kia, alcohol, drugs etc they don't even care that they are turning children into something else human 2.0 infertile Hermaphroditus's
@@oliviasondo8277 although whatever one believes to be true...is true to them no matter what! I don't believe that any of these horrible experiments has ANYTHING to do with that wrong body stuff...we are hearing more about it as it becomes more acceptable and those experiments were already done on those few with botched circumcisions and babies born with both genitals anyways!! Now, talk about children being born with physical deformities, like that and I do believe that COULD be the result of previous generations and chemical's and same with obesity with the stuff allowed in food products and don't even get me started on Autism bc I'm raising a son, now 25 with non-verbal autism, so... But the US NEEDS free medical care just like every other country does...at least bc of what gov't has caused it's citizens, too! If just for that reason alone! The thing is they KNOW what they have done and possibly still doing to us...AND they know what the outcome was way b4 regular ppl ever find out to do something about it! AND even when we do know as in the oil/gas industries and what problems with health from them and how our weather is going wild all over the world yet we won't change our ways and there is known ways, we STILL don't do anything and that's right out in the open!!
My brother was there in about 1973 I went to visit him there and he was like a zombie he just wanted to sleep he commit suicide 2 years later he jumped in front of the subway.
I love the Fifth State documentaries. It just upsets me find out about Canada’s dark side. I always viewed the country as a great and beautiful place. A bit like a nice Scotland without the weegies. I visited Ontario as a kid and since then thought it was a wonderful place with wonderful people and such a lovely contrast to the US. I now find out it was infiltrated and poisoned by the evils of mankind and it’s worse organisation - the CIA. Why couldn’t you keep your innocence ?😢
Jim Darnell Time to wake up Jim. Reality is painful but much safer than delusion. Canadian government has never been pure and nice, as you put, loosely. They may have been able to hide their participation in and creation of many, many, many government funded atrocities that have sought only to rob, cheat and control its citizens for money and power. Do your research and don’t believe what mainstream media tells you. The Fifth Estate is funded by CBC which is government funded. Turn off your tv brother and wake up. Be prepared to be frightened and enraged. Good luck.
Most corrupt: THE CANADIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY AND THE WINNIPEG BORN MUSICIANS. Who proudly use illegal frequencies and torture frequencies guarantee that they have, "FAITH FOLLOWERS," and a sold out show. Brain dissection and over stimulation resulting in potential serious health problems. They need CBS to follow them!
No wonder there are so many 'mental.' patients on the streets and in the homes of all classes - except those who consider themselves 'elite' - are everywhere now, turning ino the homeless, the criminals and the drug addicts. Both Governments are complicit in introducing all of these 'modern day' emergencies into your countries. I'm appalled. Considered Canada a 'safe' country compared to the States. I would like to call all accountable, and are still accountable, prosecute them and lock them away from harm. HOW DARE THEY????
As a US citizen, I sincerely apologize for my country's part in this horror!!!! This was before my time, but I am sad for all those people! This was Satan at work. Simple as that.
No its not before your time, its happening right now IN the states. That's the problem with people they still feel removed from it when its happening right under their nose.
The *NAMES* of everyone involved in conducting, overseeing, or who signed off on this research, please. Past and present. They must be held accountable and pay for what they have done. *Who* ordered it? *Who* carried it out? *Who* covered it up?
These sadistic freaks will get the same done to them for all eternity!!...I pray for every victim on this godforsaken planet, that is suffering the same treatment as I type this very comment! Sickening! Any violation of another being is bad enough...but to rob one of his/her life memories is unfathomable! So sad! 😞
People were labeled conspiracy theorists for years well before it was known in the media. This should give you food for thought about other so called "conspiracy theories" going on now.
Fascism _1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Wrong on both accounts, USA has become a Plutocracy, The government has been taken over by Big Business, and the rich are running and ruining America. Canada is a parliamentary democracy along with about 20 other Nations. Canada like most other parliamentary democracy, create tax policy and budgets that include Healthcare, Education..ect ect.. Canada isn't perfect, but it's not a Nationalist Nation; It's not lead by a Dictator and Canadian practice political objection in the form of protest anytime we feel Justice is being infringed up on. So, keep flinging your Bullshit; it doesn't change anything.!!
Sorry dude. You are talking about a Canada that does not exist anymore. This country is exactly the same as the USA when it comes to who is in control. The Rothschild banking cabal call the shots in Canada too
@@konbini2004 You do realize that your material possessions and comfortable lifestyle are thanks to capitalism, right? You wouldn't have had the internet or computer/phone to write that comment if it weren't for mass production/capitalism. Lol.
Like the one in Kamloops bc, Canada that queen elizabeth and prince phillip took 10 native children for their nefarious purposes. The children were never seen again, and the parents were given reasons why their child died, and never gave them a body to bury! They should do that one. There was going to be a court case but it got cancelled because the last two witnesses alive were killed right before court, the one guy was killed the day before the case was to be heard in court.
@@ms.lisamarie2245 It is on youtube all the story and even the picture of the children in front of the school its all there and few of that story .... I have share it on fb and Facecrook erase it !! I could not post it ...so Ummmm . P.s sorry for my error in my English I am French Canadian .....
"quietly shut down" means continued in secret.
Wow that's crazy dude.
You're so right, now they use rural clinics throughout the United States.
underground facilities that involve the military and German scientists arriving to the States and Canada after world war 1. Indeed red mouse 1967 is spot-on correct.
@@pedrotiznado8541 ...The madness., has always been an issue...the fact all govt(s)...have played a big part, to the demise of their own people, this has been a crime towards all humanity from around the world...Evil is,
What it is,..a parasite that has infused it's self into the world...it is all garbage that will soon come to it's demise...
Everyone knows MK Ultra is still going on, but where? Who?
It's not like something from a horror movie, it's been happening in the US and around the world for over 100 years, it's happening right now.
..corona virus, among other attacks
Everyone has heard of Josef Mengele, but virtually no one has heard of Sidney Gottlieb, despite him being the head of MK-ULTRA, supervising the mind control experiments involving drugs, and being a poison master.
Why? Because he was the Jewish version of Dr. Mengele, so the media, news, and Hollywood don't acknowledge the existence of him or his dark crimes.
Jela Florin I was watching some episodes of “Supernatural” just because it was on. It was from probably 9-10 years ago. The episode was about a virus called corona/ or very similar that caused people to turn into some type of flesh eating/vampirish virus.?? There are WAY too many things that were put out on TV, Internet... then years later it comes to truth. Like 9/11!! WTF is happening.
@@NicholeVaughnSunnyGirl They have a different persception of time.They hide history, knowledge and kill us off, on regular bases.The plan longer terms. Same old story
Dear... things like that dont happening around the world. i live in the netherlands - Europe and our gonverment doeesnt do such horrible things to us! we are safe , happy and our laws are protecting us ! And as European i know that also in germany , spain , italy , greece and other countries things like that we see them only in Holywood movies! i am very sorry that this happen to your country and are real ... i guess is terrible to feel so unsafe and powerless . I wish Americans will find peace and have for a gonverment someday that does the job correct, that respects you , protect you and help you in your difficult times instead to put you in them! all my best wishes
NEVER send your loved one to a "Behavioral Health" Institute. My brother and I were in separate institutes and both of us were traumatized. A teen was raped in the one I was at and many of us weren't given our blood pressure or heart medications. We were served spoiled food, which we didn't eat. I starved for 4 days before my mom got a lawyer to get me out. Little did I know that they were holding me against my will since I had went there voluntarily. They will make up reasons to force a longer stay.
@JACKIE F04 It was the most traumatizing experience of my life. Just think of the parents that sign their kids over to them. That haunts me the most.
RN here, NEVER expect psychiatric help from "the system". Better off getting a dog and living off grid.
Many TI's worldwide go through this. Keep safe
I've know for over 30 years this existed, a patient told me about it in California. At the time I was so naive, but it never left me, I'll never forget him
When it comes off an unbelievable
It makes it that much easier to be swept under the rug and never passed as credible information
How did the patient know?
My mother was one of these patients. It affected myself, my older brother and my younger sister. We ended up in foster homes for years because my mother was incapable of looking after us until she met my step-father. Even when we got back together as a family my mother was not a good mother and was very anxious, an alcoholic and fought with severe depression.
I'm sorry you lost your mom. I was almost that mom, thank you for understanding the mechanics.
Since CBC is airing this we know this isn't the whole story, only what they are allowed to show. Makes the reality even scarier.
Typical right wing nut.
thiis is more of DOnald trump's Fales New's BS!
@skateboardfun yes
Oh wow, a fear-mongering comment on an MK Ultra video. I'm shocked. Someone get Amy the Pulitzer.
I find the Fifth Estate to be very hard hitting and thorough.
Oh for God sakes how disturbing! Who ever came up with the slogan of, "Our earth is ruled and run by psychopaths " wasn't joking.... sickos real sickos.
Power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And Absolut Vodka corrupts Absolut Vodka-ly... lol
@@davidr5336 Oh, was that what went wrong with the Soviet Union?
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
This is so evil. How is it that no one was held accountable for this? Preying on the most vulnerable in such a disgusting way. And this really happened not even a conspiracy theory.
"Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired." JFK
TI's worldwide are being unwittingly used to test remote satellite technology.
My parents both worked in mental institutions in Australia. I am sure the same thing happened here in Australia. The things that went on was incredible. We lived close to the facility you could hear the patients screaming all day and night.
I'm sorry that your parents were steeped in this sort of amorality. Sadly, your parents were party to torture.
@@barneyronnie dark but we must be honest with ourselves!! My grandfather was a scientist and tested on animals which I have always loudly disapproved of. Wrong is wrong. Simple as.
Targeted Individuals often end up in mental institutions against their will. Remote Neural Hacking is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
That broke me about the daughter saying, "Dont touch the covers because mom left it that way."
Home Ginny pigs now!!!!😡😡😡T.I. Victim
Same :( that poor girl trying to hold onto what lil she had of her mother at the time
I never experienced anything like that but it broke my heart too. I know how much it meant to me to have my mom home from work to tuck me in - I can't imagine how awful this was!
Cindy..if you,re still single....call me...;-)
@@kennsmith6117 I'm from Alabama Kenn. lol!
The MKULTRA program never ended.
I'm a former naval officer and a graduate of the United States Naval Academy. I recommend reading Project: Soulcatcher by Dr Robert Duncan. It explains the current program very well. The man was a former CIA engineer and holds multiple degrees from Harvard and Dartmouth. He helped build some of the current weaponry.
Yeah, it just changed tactics. The police where i live were actually selling "bad dope" not too long ago, mostly meth that wasn't made right or had toxic chemicals added to it that would kill even seasoned addicts. The picked up drugs they knew were dangerous, then gave it to CI's to sell. My dad used to be a dealer back in the 60s and 70s and back then the FBI was one of the biggest suppliers of cocaine and LSD in the state.
Of course it has, why else would it be declassified? Conspiracy shill.
@MissDroplette Washington state
Nikolas Tesla ..... Wow, it must be nice and warm in your safe denial bubble.. I wish my brain could live in denial like yours....
the sad part is this is just the tip of the iceberg
yup....just the tip.
@@ms.lisamarie2245 Just the tip xD
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
So when people came back from the war and they showed positive feelings toward the enemy the government thought that there must be something wrong with them? It's still the same way now, if you don't think exactly how the government demands you think they assume something is wrong with you.
Interactions between law enforcement and civilians is a great example of this, as soon as you don't want to cooperate with law enforcement or act like you don't like them, they immediately start asking you if you need to see a mental health professional, like people are not allowed to have a choice when it comes to how we feel about law enforcement and the government.
The government and law enforcement are definitely not our friends, videos like this prove it.
The brainwashing has moved to the government school system...
@@mrose4132 Yes, the government is literally shaping the ideologies of the future by teaching kids in school how to think. .
In another 20 years the government will have everyone under their all ruling thumb, indoctrinating the kids that fit their system and casting aside the ones that don't.
The government definitely wants their Hierarchy to have complete control over ever citizen, and they're using our children to get what they want, there's no doubt in my mind that you're right about that one.
@mrose4132 mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
This still happens . My friend has been held againgst his will at a psychatric hospital in alberta for over 10 years and is still there. If he tries refusing the drugs they strap him down and inject him. He has never been charged with a crime , but theres nothing i can do about it. Its disgusting.
get in touch with police and the fifth estate and tell them. Do you visit? Record waht you see if you have a covert cam. Or would you be worried about comprimising your safety by geting involved?
There's a series on Utube... Soft white underbelly... A woman who suffered post partum pyschosis and her husband interviewed. Said having a mental disorder-a over age 18-you yourself are treated like a criminal-you have zero rights and your family/partner/even parents have zero say/rights in your treatment or even release! It's scary. I believe you. She had to fake her way out. I hope your friend makes it out of there.
@@melanieking4357 Ponoka? DM me.
Praying for their release
It is my belief that these things that created victims was meant as a secondary purpose to also damage the whole family for generations to come.
yes, i believe that is correct!
They keep track of them even after experiments.
that is true
That’s also what the war on drugs, compounded by Biden’s hard on crime bill, has contributed to.
Some families are wholly targeted. I know my personal experience.
Anyone who thinks these type of programs are not going on today is a fool.
Normal guy
ABSOLUTELY
ofcourse it's still going on but only now the entire North American population is being experimented on and they dont even realize it.
STEVE RUSH TO SANDY MARK SEAN and all the arid talk show and TV that CONTINUE to help cover it up AND FALSE PREACHERS OUT FOR ILL GOTTEN GAIN
I agree
Sandman Beaches amen
My Dad was one of these poor souls. It was very painful seeing this show. I truly hope that this Goverment does what is right and long overdue. I wish i knew how to make this right for me Dad even if he has passed on.Someone should pay for what was done.
Shawn Andersen no they probably won't . but they will pay jihadi's 10s of millions of dollars for killing r troops because they where in the teens and considered child soldiers . the U.S will lock up children that kill there abusers for life . they lock up Canadian kids for the same but they get released after decades . 90grand is all these people get bullshit u should go to the press or a lawyer . My heart goes out to u and ur father .GOD BLESS
@Shawn Andersen Yes, definitely.
I'm sorry to hear. We'll never know how many covertly manipulated by these horrible scientists. It's a daily challenge to not wish vile acts on them. I'd only make myself ill. Take good care of yourself! ☺
Dearest Shawn, I just saw this 5th Estate show but not entirely sure when it did originally air. I am so terribly sorry for both yourself, your father and what all of your family have been through. Whether the Gov would require you to sign an NDA upon agreement of a settlement to the family, that you would have to find out way down the line. But I hope you have met with legal counsel and discussed what if anything could be done on behalf of your father's case. My very best wishes to you and your family, be well.
@ElPocho DelMundo I had ECT. Didn't help my depression
This is horrific!!! And I’m certain it’s still ongoing. You can’t tell me the government has grown a heart and decided to stop these type of experiments. I’m disgusted Praying for all those people affected by it. We just passed through Nevada. I remember saying to my husband, “I wonder why no one has built any homes on this land?” He told me right then it’s because of all the chemical testing our government did. Now I see😩😩😩
Both chemical, AND the atomic bomb tests!
It is absolutely still happening. Look up Amanda Rabb 💔 just one example in thousands, maybe even millions who knows.
Yes it does STILL EXISTS but with gangstalking…it is now done alll in secrecy
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
This absolutely disgusting. Where does the government get off doing experiments on the general population without permission.
It's still happening. It happened to me. The man I have kids by is in politics. I was harassed by him and his wife. I'm still being harassed/discredited.
@@kjones5588 😔 get away from them if you can. Who cares what people say or think, what matters is YOU. You know your heart and soul, don't let them gaslight you with their nonsense. I'm learning to stop caring and needing to prove myself, there are evil people out there and the best thing to do is completely disengage. Engagement gives them power.
Sending love and solidarity to you my internet sister ❤️xxx
@@kjones5588 I believe you
@@anima6035 Grey Rock the Narcissystem!!
This is absolutely shocking and shameful act from any government especially on its own people.
They have been doing this and worse since there was ever anyone in a place of power. What's even more surprising and pathetic, is that there are so many people who don't believe this, and instead believe that the governments are helping them and keeping them safe........LOL. Soooo many missing children and people of all ages.............gee, i wonder who took them and is using them for nefarious means?? Any guesses? The Black Shadow Government! That's who.
@@ms.lisamarie2245 ✨ Amein thats the truth 💯 Lisa
@@ms.lisamarie2245 quit blaming gov't officials for taking and abusing and trafficing children already! Be mad at the gov't here in the US for not offering us medical care for the damage they cause with using citizens as guinea pigs and not taking care of the generations afterwards that these and other horrible experiments still are causing us!
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
This evil and vile treatment of humans seeking help for mental illness issues renders those who administer this treatment inhumane demons. This makes me cry in my heart.
This us why my dad kept moms problems in family ears only..
@@deborahstone1296 ❤️ your dad is a good man ❤️
Roman law : It is your duty to know and understand thy enemy
LATINO= LATIN ROMANS THE MEXICANS
To understand = to stand under/ below. They can only understand control through obuse, deceit, theaft, force, fear, egoism and murder. Not the material(nurturing) world.
It is WISE to know and educate yourself about your enemies, and especially their weaknesses. The elite's weakness is money, power, pedaphilia. Their weakness is that they want to stay in the shadows.............so throw them under the spotlight!! You want to know what they are really like?!
Talk to their enemies. Talk to the people they've hurt and destroyed.
Which is the government
Jela Florin no, don’t abuse the language
I was 5 in 1975 : one night after my father tied me and my brother who was 2 to my parents bed and beat my mom with their green dresser drawer. Now my memory of what happened next is bits and pieces. my mom able to call police. They came and took my mom to a (hospital) GALESBURG ILLINOIS RESEARCH HOSPITAL FOR THE MENTALLY ILL. and sent me and my brother with my father for 1 month. It was the 70’s. My mom said my father said she to police she was crazy. My mom admitted to being very angry and yelling trying to get away from police. Obviously she was beaten and my father was going home and she with police. [i remembered the beating and at 8 asked my mom why she went to the hospital.. the rest of the story told to me then] 3.5 weeks later I remember my maternal grandmother picking my brother and I up with our belongings to go get my mom from the hospital. The time at my fathers and his girlfriend my brother and I were physically abused daily. He was mentally challenged and my dad’s girlfriend said he was cursed by the devil. When my father went to work my brother was put in a closet all day and I in the attic with her 7 boys who abused me. We did not get fed and were to act normal when my father came home. Remember we stayed there 3.5 weeks. Anyway... what I remember next was that a old man the doctor that took care of my mom and got her released came to check on her well being and my brother and I. Sometime later my parents were divorced and we moved in with the doctor. He lived on the grounds of the mental hospital where many doctors lived that worked there. I would go to his office with him often. He took care of the adolescent ward. In his office there was a window so he could see them in the day room and they him. They liked him. But when I was there we had to cover the window because they would beat on the door, bang their head, screams and cry if they saw me. I remember being SCARED they were not normal. I remember looking through the window once when he left me in his office alone. They were tied to their bed, in these cream colored coats that wrapped all the way around them and tied down so they could not move even their feet. It gave me nightmares. I was told they acted crazy that was why. Obviously what we now know as a straight jacket. We lived there until I was almost 7 then moved to a house. Our beds at the hospital apt were what the pts had. Solid metal twin beds nearly impossible to move and mattress was single and very heavy as well. My step-dad who became my dad worked at the hospital until early 1983 when they had completely closed the hospital. They closed most all mental hospitals then and sadly those pts were put in group homes that they could find and the others became our homeless population on our streets today. My step-dad was 55 yrs old and my mom 25 when they met. I learned years later that my mom was beaten by staff, tied to a wheelchair and forced to eat the half cooked eggs on her plate and burnt with the cigarette she had lit. The doctor(my dad) was on call for the adult side the night my mom was admitted. He realized she was not mental but a battered woman with 2 children one that was cerebral palsy and other issues and only 2 yrs old. He told her to just do what staff said and when he got there in the morning he would bring her to his office for Puerto Rican coffee and cigarettes. She did not like breakfast in the morning. My mom was a nurses aid at a local hospital. One night at the mental hospital her roommate who was pregnant asked for a glass of milk. The nurse would not give it to her and ended up tying her down because she had walked to the door to ask a second time. My mom was mad. Being a nurses aid she knew if she got hurt she would see the doc. My mom put her fist thru those ice cube tiles and cut open her hand and wrist. The doctor came (my soon to be dad) and stitched my mom up and had the nurses get the pregnant woman some milk and untie her. That is said to be when the doctor told my mom I need to get you out of here. My mom did have some depression and suicidal tendencies as she was sexually molested by her stepfather from grade school through graduation. Became pregnant at 16 and sent away to have the baby and give her up. The father was a man my mom babysat for. His wife never was told and my moms real father although her parents were divorced was in service and did not ever know my mom had a daughter. He was mentally abusive to my grandmother. Anyway the doc became my dad and due to his age and having his own office after leaving the hospital he made his own hours. Beginning in 1st grade we started traveling over seas. I would start school in Illinois then we would pack the house up rent it to a professor or student from Knox college and go to Puerto Rico 2x, Barcelona x2, England 2x and Ireland to live. Obviously that was divided up between years. That was the order. It was the best and my stories are amazing as were my experiences. My step dad and mom divorced but remained very good friends. And ... well many more good and not so good things happened to me but It has all made me the strong and caring person. I have some issues but now 50 have learned to accept what I can not change. My mom has passed as well as the Doc my dad. My biological dad returned to Mexico when he retired from Caterpillar as a Engineer with 3 patents for Engines he built and they use to this day. I have not seen him or spoken to him except 2x when he moved 8 yrs ago. He left my stepmom a beautiful house he built to take care of his dying sister in Mexico Then did not ever return. He stays married to my wonderful step-mom since I was 7 but lives his life with the nurse who cared for my aunt when she was dying. He is 76 now and can not speak due to cancer and removal of his throat, voice box. I will not ever speak to him again. His girlfriend made him sell all 3 homes my dad and grandpa built and I do not even have an address. She wants the money and properties he owns. She is only 58. Ok so sorry I kept writing. Bless each of you during this time and may you stay healthy and positive. Change is happening on Earth and life is going to be better.PEACE
So dificult life, hope you be fine. Hugs. Sorry for my english.
Thank you for so bravely sharing your story. Sending you much love and light from my heart to yours.
Amazing life. Painful. As it is, you survived.
Thank you for telling your story! You have been through so much including your mom and your siblings. If I may ask is your sibling with cerebral palsy still alive?
Thank you for sharing, im so happy you made it out alive.
I learned about this in the early 70's from a colleague at work who bragged about the CIA LSD experiments that they were involved in at McGill University. Strange, this person lived in Knowlton, the same town as the person interviewed in this documentary.
McGill should be ashamed to still have the “renowned” Allen institute named after that man.
There's one here in india
@@kameshwaryadav2965 an Allen institute?
Canada’s pseudo-intellectual occultist professor Jordan Peterson studied there too..
ever wonder how he can get so many people to listen to his drivel and shower him with money?
only explanation is pure hypnosis cause the guy is bonkers!!
@@SomethinAintRightHere Are you saying that he is bonkers because you don't agree with him?
@@tetrahedron1000 no, the reverse... i dont agree with him because i dont take advice from people who are bonkers. dont care if they have a title or letters around their name
Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
💪🙏
exactly Toby. and why? because the Lord God Almighty (Lord Jesus Christ) is with those who trust in Him
sounds like you are brainwashed too
Good for you, Toby. I’m fearing that evil, though. There’s some scary crap out there that a crucifix won’t save you from.
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim No weapon formed against us shall prosper. Jesus took EVERYTHING on that Cross for us. 2 Timothy 1 "For God has not not given us the spirit of fear, But of Power Love and a Sound Mind."
My aunt sue in the guelph area i believe fits in this group of victims. I feel horrible for all of these victims. Hopefully fifth estate keeps exposing these types of deplorable acts like project gaslight and too many others
Chris Friest it was going down at the Newmarket hospital. ONTARIO CANADA in the late 1990s I watch people hanging themselves it was so bad...
I was just a boy.. Me my dad a crazy German man and a lawyer broke in and took out my mother..She was on 13 drugs they knew her body was allergic to totally destroyed hanging from her bed growling and foaming from the mouth.. She was 1 of 8 in them jail rooms.. I will never forget this since it went on for 6 years.
@@willshaw3561 😔 so sorry 😔❤️
@willshaw3561 You and your dad are heroes! I'm glad you got her out of there!
💝🙏💕
Yeah I remember when this came out it was back when you were still real journalism those days are gone now
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
Our grandchildren may hear that we have also been brainwashed, without knowing ourselves.
I feel so mad about how these victims were treated like lab rats! It feels so upsetting to me how they were denied the right to refuse the experimentation !
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
The word Government literally translates into"Mind Control". (Govern meaning control)
(Ment meaning mind)
So not shocking at all. This is expected.
Finally someone else in the world realizes this! To further elaborate Ment comes from the Latin word Mentis which means mind. Using the word Enlightenment for comparison it's undeniable the root of the word. Govern is an obvious one ;but in the defense of the control grid, the majority of the population are asleep at the wheel and are dangerous so they require a Shepard. They're parasitic in their blind consumption of our host. The biggest tool for control is language and English was created to be the language of slaves. Another one of my sayings is: The word Society is the word the English used to brand on their slaves, now we brand ourselves society and speak English.I could literally talk for hours about it ;but unfortunately no one is listening.....
RoCk ShaDoW-WaLkEr Ive been awake since I was about 20. Started researching all the lies I was told my entire life. I’ve watched & read stuff about the English language and how it’s a “cursed” language. If you have any good sources of info about it I am extremely interested & want to learn more.
@@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr Some people, especially those aware or awake, like to learn and want to know what the words mean and how they break down. Some of us are taking the time to read what you have to say.....so don't stop on account of all the brainwashed morons running around.
@louiseleu No blog or anything my friend, not enough interest in real truth for it to have been an effective choice.
..$
Their lives are worth far more than $90k. How insulting.
Survivors you are exceptional in your demonstrated ability to persevere, and your courage to alerting the public about this horrific part of Canadian history, and psychiatric abuse.
I would appreciate very much knowing which lawyers and law firm defended your case and which lawyers and law firm defended the government position.?
I am so far unable to find that information on my search.( I am a researcher).?
Thank you
I'm a target. I was born in 1978 and it's still happening
I remember going to visit my brother there when I was 18 years old in 1973 he was a zombie so drugged out he commit suicide 4 years later by jumping in front of into the subway.I remember being so horrified after my visit with him.
So sorry to hear that. Its crazy that people can do this to other people.
Sorry for your loss
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
A new documentary on Netflix called "Wormwood" details the CIA's murder of MK-Ultra scientist Frank Olson when he tried to leave the CIA.
Thanks, I wouldn’t have known what that was about without your comment. I will go watch it.
Bullshit, the dude offed himself, growup!
Sphinx Rising he beat himself until he had severe brain swelling and several broken ribs before throwing himself off a 15 story build? 🧐
yes. If people actually take the time to look for evidence supporting conspiracy claims.......then people would find it, no problem. But they refuse to even look. Because they are scared what they will find. Well, just cause they are too scared to hear it, or read about it...............doesn't mean it isn't true!! It's pathetic and cowardly to not face the truth!
Ms. Lisa Marie - unfortunately people spend time watching stupid videos on RUclips - look at the number of viewers JZ satanic videos...
I just happened to find this video ..... boy oh boy does it ring a bell. My grandmother was interned there , but her doctor name was not Cameroon. It was doctor Getzler. From what I remember she was severely medicated and I had been told by my dad that she’d received shocks to heal 5 people . I remember my dad trying to investigate later on what had happened to her at the Allan Memorial under dr Getzler care ...... he was told that all of his files had been burned in a fire . How convenient!!! My grandmother was never the same person after that . They must of fried her brains . This documentary was quite enlightening and gives me hope that I may ba able to learn something from her file .
I was told my files are gone and shredded.
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
Watching this during the Corona Quarantine May 5 anybody else? Give a thumbs up 👍🏼
I am not quarantined. Who and when has the world ever quarantined healthy people?? I know all the answers but they do not add up. Our economies around the world are crumbling and I do not see them coming back. Anyone who thinks this is for our own good better think again. If you were scared a virus (please research, false positives, empty hospitals, reused media clips, fruit pulp from fruit grown on trees in Africa being tested under fake names testing positive for Corona, cancers, natural death numbers plummeted because hospitals get kickbacks marking everything as corona. A baby died by accidental smothering and they listed it as Covid. Fucci predicted this pandemic. How can someone predict when a pandemic happens???!!! There is an agenda and the world will never, never be the same. This IS the beginning of new world order. Wake up for Gods sake. Wake up for your own sakes. If nothing else wake up for your children's sakes. Research. Turn off the tv. Stop being complicit. It is easier to deceive than to convince someone they have been deceived. Just one person please hear me. We have to speak up. I assure you I am not a conspiracy theorist. I seek truth and it is not easy to find when it is being censored. I'm not religious but God bless us all. We HAVE to wake up. I cannot stay silent. It only takes one person to start looking. Yes it is work. Yes. It is scary. Knowledge is power and we the people are the only ones who can change what seems to be in the works already. Thanks to anyone who reads this and starts asking different questions.
I know that people put their relatives into mental institutions in the 1940´s and 1950´s easily in California and possibly this also occurred in other states as well. If a person went into shock, they placed them in a mental institution instead of helping them ease out of a shock or traumatic experience. We had an uncle who had been placed as pre-teen in a Catholic Seminary in Southern California--that was the only life he ever knew for over a decade--he and his older brother. It was a Spanish custom--or perhaps Irish also to dedicate a child or two to the church, This is what occurred, his older brother whom he was bonded with the most had a fatal accident playing football at the seminary. The football players did not wear helmets at the time this occurred--it might have been in the late 30´s. I am not sure because I wasn´t born at that time, but when his older brother died of brain injury he went into shock. The doctors recommended the Camarillo Mental Hospital. There he remained until an aunt an I took him out about 30 years later. At that time, I embraced the teachings from the Bible and she and I had the faith to take him out and help him for the remaining years of his life. He never was quite normal again, but he lived in a group home where my aunt and I monitored him and visited him often and helped him live a more normal life.
This kind of things is exactly what's going on in "covid" hospitals.
Look up gangstalking on here. The people who participating to follow the person are being brainwashed
With content like this how could you make a comment like that?
It’s horrifying how mental health was treated like this. I watched the old fifth estate episode about this. Whilst these people were actively in a coma I’m worried that people may have been assaulted… just because tragically I’ve heard of things like that happening in psych wards before.
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Sexual depravity has crept around since biblical times. Some procure their fantasies at the expense of their victims, forcefully and brutally. Others, cowardly perpetrate those who seem weak and easy prey. Both types of freaks are horrendous. There's NO cure for what ails them! 😤
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
Do psychopaths ever say they're sorry?
Never!!! They usually project.
Would it matter if they did? They can only imitate or approximate empathy.
NEVER
Never no. And thank God they dont because if they did, youll go back easily
Only when they get caught.
Nice white wash , exactly as expected no names no nothing
You think they want to get suicided?
Lol you’re an idiot
I believe if the people of the world actually knew what their governments were truly up to what followed would be an event like no other in the history of human life on earth. Actually knowing the motivations behind the actions we see on the world stage; disclosure of all secrets and crimes against humanity would let the citizens know just where they stood and it wouldn't be pretty.
What are the motivations??? I just can't understand 😭
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
Dear Jesus, have mercy on us and on the whole world. thanks for sharing
I had my first existential crisis at 10-11 years old and got admitted to a psych hospital. Though I didn’t know there was a title for what I was going through at the time. Let me tell you, looking back, I was just a super enlightened kid. I started actually going crazy in that environment quite quickly though. (And that started before I began the plethora of prescriptions that made things worse.)
Who does this???? Inhuman, horribly irreversible.
Welcome to capitalism where you worth nothing to your government if your government can get away with it.
@@toomaskotkas4467 Canada is Socialist. Capitalism makes the rich richer and the poor richer. It's the best system mankind has ever come up with. Dummy.
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
So when the family members of these individuals came to visit, how did they not immediately see that the conditions were deplorable, and that their loved one’s mental and emotional state had been completely altered and they needed to be removed immediately? It sounds like no one advocated for them. Not the husband or anyone. Even before being admitted to these psyche hospitals, did they not first go for a visit to see what the facility was like? And how does it sound normal for your wife or whomever to be away for months or even years at a psychiatric hospital for help with post-partum depression? How is that even good for you when you’re now raising your children completely alone? How did that sound normal to them? And for the ones who were allowed to go home for periods of time, why did they not just stay home? This is very frustrating.
Sounds like they never got to see the horrors.... when they visited they were asleep all the time.
The families are not allowed to visit for a long time if at all.
My great uncle went through MK ultra. He's never been right since..
Understandable
Did your family sue?
@@2degucitas how are you going to sue? I'm sorry it just wouldn't happen although that is the right thing an what the majority would want it just wouldn't happen. Yes its sad, but its the reality, but what can we expect from such a corrupt system that would do such in-humane experiments in the first place.
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It's worth a shot. At least consult an attorney. Google MKULTRA class action suits.
@@2degucitas I guess, but has anyone ever won ... opposition are like elites I'd like to say whats the chance but there isnt
I'm wondering if some of these things happened to me as a child.
My family is being investigated for human trafficking and theres a lot of brainwashing and grooming stuff that's come up. Its kinda similar to this.
Look into body brokering maybe x
Dayum these go hand and hand
Wtf?!
Family?!? 😲
Victimized here. Cuttingitshort. Been isolated and hypnotized and emotionally and mentally tortured for 4years until now. Ate nothing. Drank nothing. Just acid inside the body.halluscinating. Just lying inside my room for 4years and still counting. My country is philippines
Thank you for enlightenment. The informations is so powerful.
It's not over.
Agreed. 50 years from now we will get disclosure on what was happening right now to people in some governmental top secret program
mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
I really would never expect CBC to talk on this subject. If you know about this CBC, what else do you know? Are you taking note that we the people get upset when you constantly push the bogus Liberal agenda? We are calling for your defunding, is this your way of saying “we’re listening and we are sorry.”? Keep on posting truth. We the people need the truth, it’s the only way to change for the better.
You sound like you’vet been brainwashed. “The bogus liberal agenda”😂.
I got so mad watching this that my whole body started tingling, words cannot describe the cruelty of the tyranny we live under
Bottle up all that anger and save it until trudeau crosses your path then let him have it.
All these decades passed no one has never been prosecuted! And after this there still going on even today!
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr mind control and brainwashing is now, Remote Neural Hacking or Monitoring is real and used to destroy lives. MKUltra 2.0 the borg. Keep safe
Thanks for sharing this and allowing comments!
This would be the third 5th Estate episode and I've already noticed that Canada is really got some evil going on. What an erie place to be exploited and abused. I pray all those victims get compensated.
Franaflyby it’s because Canada is America ... think about it, the same ppl running America are influencing and running Canada
They get exploited and the douchebags in the white coats get awards and grants for more.
The place looks like the asylum from American horror story👌🏻
Probably is
Thats why that whole season is about
I think it’s a spin-off of AHS. It’s a good subplot too it!
This still goes on
I remember when MK was just a conspiracy theory. Makes you wonder if a lot of these….”conspiracies” hold more truth than fiction
I just want to say how fascinated I am with this channel! I can't get enough of it! The best RUclips channel going! For people who like these kind of shows.. 👍👍👍
This is freaky i didnt know the MK-Ultra project was also conducted here in Canada. And that place is only a 3 or 4 hour drive away from where i live.
@EricaB52 Yes, it's EVERYWHERE.
I live 10 minutes away from the Allan Institute and I had no idea of all this until recently! It's horrifying
Drake is one of their product In hip hop.
@@gwhiza103 you have any sources for drake?
Why would the Canadian government even allow this??? I always thought we'd be the only ones crazy enough to think this was a good idea.
To beat the communists was the reasoning they used to conduct mk ultra ;this experiment was done during the cold war, western countries were paranoid the Soviet union was conducting mind control experiments
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I have to admit, this is one issue the US Government has handled better than the Canadian one. Not sure about compensation, but there were serious Congressional hearings and a public apology from the US Government, continued suppression of the truth up north. Truly shameful!
Because Canada was, is and always will be a puppet state of the USA.
Alan Shore Spoken like a true 'Murican.
The more information that gets out about these experiments, the more open our eyes are and the harder it will be to use their mental weapons.
I feel bad for these people for their treatments and hope they were able to recover but the government is truly evil to do to innocent people.
The Fifth Estate by far reports on their cases much better than many things we have here in the US. Yes we have a handful a great outlets, mostly independent sources. But these here are always pretty good. We need for a mainstream news outlet to report this well.
a sorry statement will not fix damage people up....pay them and lock up government people who involved with it,,,
The people who did this and those who still do, need to be shot.
I wouldn't accept any hollow apologies from the beast system! Eventually EVERYONE will get a taste.. You can't ignore a growing beast in your neighbors back yard.. It is what it is...
Have mercy. My sympathy is with them.
I would like to know who's idea it was to do something like this to innocent people. I'm not talking about the CIA, I'm talking about, who was in the think tank that started this whole thing and who gave the ok?
What a horrific life this was.
This kind of stuff still happens
This is being done to me now. It is disgusting and it took me a very long time to figure what was going on. They now call it no touch torture.
I pray for your emancipation from the hands of evil people ❤️
Find me. I want to compare notes. I'm a target too
My God deliver you from evil.
@@joanhage5952 Wait- I was hasty. I apologize. You were wishing the poster well and I took it wrong. I'm the one with the dumbs here (and some religious trauma, but it's no excuse for me)
@@N0p3er5 it's OK, thanks for the reply.
The Fifth Estate should interview the workers of this hospital. Anyone that worked with and for the Doctor. They have the real true story. I'm sure some, if not all, will tell you something about what they did to these people. Evil is never forgotten. Neither inside a person.
They will be all dead by now.
These programs still go on under other names
The Canadian government deleted my record as a citizen even though I was born there.
😳😳
Which country are you living in now?
Born there or 'here'?
What beats me is that there are "fellow humans" who are quite happy to participate in the torture of humans, seems to me those are the ones in desperate need of "treatment".
mb Safronovitz YES they are sick
And people think the U.S didn’t introduce crack - cocaine to the streets 😂
Bravo CBC!
Doesn't anyone realize why they are bringing this out at this time and era?
This is old news. History channel made a better documentary on this 10 years ago called "MK Ultra" and went into great details.
Linda Beaudoin not many unfortunately. Most are content being sheep. Like the op.
MK Ultra is still used extensively in hollyweird
Elizabeth M still used by cia period.
Rock Girl agreed!
Not just hollywood
Rock Girl thank you
If you're world is viewed through a partisan lens, congratulations. Mind Kontrol has found you too.
In 1959 my mother, suffering post-partum depression bordering on psychosis, narrowly escaped being sent to 'The Allan'.
That’s freaking terrifying!
This one is not over, its very real today! The torture and testing is happening to victims at heart me and work today! 17 years today... constantly being tortured. Please, bring this to the surface!!!
Home not heard
We're working on it
People in the government should have been put in prison. The ones covering it up today should also be in prison. Now people are talking about being targeted electronically and having voices put in their heads by someone in the government sitting behind a computer.
So sad Canadian Government can compensate 1.8 MILLION dollars to a terrorist. They won't give a dime to Canadian citizen who suffered from this torture.
That money probably went right back into their own pocket.
These days they even have people believing they are in the wrong body.
They probanly were tamperd with while in the woumb.
That is the most shocking part. I used to be all for LGBQ rights but now I am seeing it for what it is. Confused souls. Purposely confused. That's the sad part.
@@oliviasondo8277 even worse deliberately confusing children, the old divide and conquer the sad thing is people are now so spaced out on pharma kia, alcohol, drugs etc they don't even care that they are turning children into something else human 2.0 infertile Hermaphroditus's
@@oliviasondo8277 depopupation.
@@oliviasondo8277 although whatever one believes to be true...is true to them no matter what! I don't believe that any of these horrible experiments has ANYTHING to do with that wrong body stuff...we are hearing more about it as it becomes more acceptable and those experiments were already done on those few with botched circumcisions and babies born with both genitals anyways!! Now, talk about children being born with physical deformities, like that and I do believe that COULD be the result of previous generations and chemical's and same with obesity with the stuff allowed in food products and don't even get me started on Autism bc I'm raising a son, now 25 with non-verbal autism, so... But the US NEEDS free medical care just like every other country does...at least bc of what gov't has caused it's citizens, too! If just for that reason alone! The thing is they KNOW what they have done and possibly still doing to us...AND they know what the outcome was way b4 regular ppl ever find out to do something about it! AND even when we do know as in the oil/gas industries and what problems with health from them and how our weather is going wild all over the world yet we won't change our ways and there is known ways, we STILL don't do anything and that's right out in the open!!
It is way more advanced now.
My brother was there in about 1973 I went to visit him there and he was like a zombie he just wanted to sleep he commit suicide 2 years later he jumped in front of the subway.
Very Sorry to hear that, I hope you are doing well & safe.
May you & your family have peace.
I wish these people were held accountable for their actions and were made to give their explanation to the people.
watch wormwood on netflix creepy
I love the Fifth State documentaries. It just upsets me find out about Canada’s dark side. I always viewed the country as a great and beautiful place. A bit like a nice Scotland without the weegies.
I visited Ontario as a kid and since then thought it was a wonderful place with wonderful people and such a lovely contrast to the US. I now find out it was infiltrated and poisoned by the evils of mankind and it’s worse organisation - the CIA.
Why couldn’t you keep your innocence ?😢
Jim Darnell Time to wake up Jim. Reality is painful but much safer than delusion. Canadian government has never been pure and nice, as you put, loosely. They may have been able to hide their participation in and creation of many, many, many government funded atrocities that have sought only to rob, cheat and control its citizens for money and power. Do your research and don’t believe what mainstream media tells you. The Fifth Estate is funded by CBC which is government funded. Turn off your tv brother and wake up. Be prepared to be frightened and enraged. Good luck.
Most corrupt: THE CANADIAN MUSIC INDUSTRY AND THE WINNIPEG BORN MUSICIANS. Who proudly use illegal frequencies and torture frequencies guarantee that they have, "FAITH FOLLOWERS," and a sold out show. Brain dissection and over stimulation resulting in potential serious health problems. They need CBS to follow them!
i love Canada..my family emigrated to Canada 50 yr ago. from greece,.but something is really bad now !!!...people are acting very strange
@Tori Hamilton Lanning mass shootings, hyperpartisan hatred and blame, keeping up with the Kardashians, etc. Etc.
R.I.P JFK been warned us.
Rip to you the english language.
No wonder there are so many 'mental.' patients on the streets and in the homes of all classes - except those who consider themselves 'elite' - are everywhere now, turning ino the homeless, the criminals and the drug addicts. Both Governments are complicit in introducing all of these 'modern day' emergencies into your countries. I'm appalled. Considered Canada a 'safe' country compared to the States. I would like to call all accountable, and are still accountable, prosecute them and lock them away from harm. HOW DARE THEY????
As a US citizen, I sincerely apologize for my country's part in this horror!!!! This was before my time, but I am sad for all those people! This was Satan at work. Simple as that.
No its not before your time, its happening right now IN the states. That's the problem with people they still feel removed from it when its happening right under their nose.
I blame PETA!
j/k
The *NAMES* of everyone involved in conducting, overseeing, or who signed off on this research, please. Past and present. They must be held accountable and pay for what they have done. *Who* ordered it? *Who* carried it out? *Who* covered it up?
These sadistic freaks will get the same done to them for all eternity!!...I pray for every victim on this godforsaken planet, that is suffering the same treatment as I type this very comment! Sickening! Any violation of another being is bad enough...but to rob one of his/her life memories is unfathomable! So sad! 😞
That happens in the so-called "free world"
People were labeled conspiracy theorists for years well before it was known in the media. This should give you food for thought about other so called "conspiracy theories" going on now.
Welcome to Fascism. We hope you will like it.
Yours truly,
USA and Canada governments.
Fascism _1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Wrong on both accounts, USA has become a Plutocracy, The government has been taken over by Big Business, and the rich are running and ruining America. Canada is a parliamentary democracy along with about 20 other Nations. Canada like most other parliamentary democracy, create tax policy and budgets that include Healthcare, Education..ect ect.. Canada isn't perfect, but it's not a Nationalist Nation; It's not lead by a Dictator and Canadian practice political objection in the form of protest anytime we feel Justice is being infringed up on. So, keep flinging your Bullshit; it doesn't change anything.!!
Sorry dude. You are talking about a Canada that does not exist anymore. This country is exactly the same as the USA when it comes to who is in control. The Rothschild banking cabal call the shots in Canada too
Facism? This is communism!
@@konbini2004 You do realize that your material possessions and comfortable lifestyle are thanks to capitalism, right? You wouldn't have had the internet or computer/phone to write that comment if it weren't for mass production/capitalism. Lol.
Communism my friend learn the difference
The fifth estate should do a special/documentary on residential schools
Like the one in Kamloops bc, Canada that queen elizabeth and prince phillip took 10 native children for their nefarious purposes. The children were never seen again, and the parents were given reasons why their child died, and never gave them a body to bury! They should do that one. There was going to be a court case but it got cancelled because the last two witnesses alive were killed right before court, the one guy was killed the day before the case was to be heard in court.
@@ms.lisamarie2245 It is on youtube all the story and even the picture of the children in front of the school its all there and few of that story .... I have share it on fb and Facecrook erase it !! I could not post it ...so Ummmm . P.s sorry for my error in my English I am French Canadian .....
@@lindorpay3871 What is the name of the story on RUclips?
The last sentence the narrator spoke was awesome.
That expression,, "Even as a child I knew she wasn't right". Children know BETTER than "Adults".
Please fix the Wikipedia page for Targeted Individuals. Remote Mind Control without devices is real
Sadness for those in his care, all the family’s that lost out, madness being made by people we trust.