I just purchased the M18 a few weeks ago. After 41years in the Plumbing Industry I wish I would have made the investment LONG ago. What a deference in man hours, yet alone the solder, flux, cleaning and Mapp gas savings! I LOVE this tool.
@@circlemagazine the shark bite fitting spin.alot of plumbing inspectors won't pass shark bite fittings.shark bites are really made for using only in certain applications.i would never repipe a entire house in shark bite fittings.but I have saw it done with copper. ridiculous,all the valves were moving and spinning plus not to mention the amount of money spent on them😒
thanks for the video. I have notice some people have concerns about the sealing element. this is not natural rubber, it is EPDM, it's a synthetic rubber that is mostly made from gum base. if you ever tried to digest chewing gum, you know it doesn't. so if it can take the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, you should be OK with the chlorine in the water. also, the sealing element doesn't see as much of the water as many think. as long as you insert the fitting full socket, the pipe does most of the sealing and the o ring acts as the solder in a soldered joint, it holds the pressure but doesn't see velocity. I hope it clarifies some misconception about the o rings.
The compatability of EPDM and Chlorine is qualify as fair, however chlorine in water exist in parts per million, I can't really see a problem.. (refer to chemical compatability charts, Cole Palmer is a good one)
HI How long this the system of this O ring is on the market, to prove the ageing of the O ring in it? The other thing is only Milwaukee made that tool, and whether there is a manual crimping tools?
Alot of people overlook one big advantage over welding that gets overlooked other than speed & efficiency. The added safety of not needing to transport a flammable gas in a vehicle that can explode if you happen to have a leaking cylinder. The hidden dangers.....
It’s good if you’re doing big jobs and you have to wait hours for hours it’s got its applications it’s still better to solder when possible it’s more durable
I have a question. I propress a fitting and it did not grab tight it would turn like a sharkbite. I was surprised cause its the first time it does that. Why did that happen?
How does the connection actually hold together? Push fittings have teeth that bite in but with this tool it just looks like it's compressing the pipe and relying on a friction fit which I don't trust. Does it indent small marks in the pipe to act as a mechanical connection or something?
itas0r None, it is adequately powered although if there is to be much pressing I will use the large capacity battery. Being compactit is great for tight spaces. Most jobs I go on wouldn't fit the large gun.
Thanks! I couldn't decide between the Ridgid RP200-B or the Milwaukee M12 Press Tool, but I ended up with the M12 mostly due to the idea of being able to use it with 1 hand in tight places. I've had it almost a year, but haven't used it much. Glad to hear it holds up well with a lot of use. I do have an M12 XC6.0 battery, which is nice because it makes the press tool stand up (and it lasts forever!).
With some press fittings being so ridiculously expensive I combine solder fittings with press fittings.In other words I solder unions and ball valves to copper pipe nipples then I use copper press couplings,copper press elbows and copper press tees where ever I need which gives me the best of both worlds.You don't need to spend so much for a good press tool,I recently bought a 18volt press tool that came with standard press jaws for U.S. copper pipe sizes 1/2" through 1-1/4" and I only paid around $1,000.00 for the press tool kit from over seas.I don't care for milwaukee for several reasons.Reason number one is that the milwaukee m18,like its predecessor the milwaukee m12,is ridiculously expensive and reason number two is that both the milwaukee m12 and m18 press tools do not allow for the press cycle to be stopped once the press tool power buttons are press which to me is a big defect when you consider how expensive press unions and press ball valves are.If you happen to be up on a ladder and the ladder shifts and as a result you inadvertantly press the power button on the milwaukee press tools before you are sure that you are ready to press the joint you will be shit out of luck because once the power button on the milwaukee press tools is pressed the tool will not stop until the press cycle is completed.The 18volt press tool that I own stops immediately the moment I release the power button and the press tool also has a button to manually retract the press tool's ram to the ram's original position if and when the press cycle has to be interrupted.Brand names with big price tags do not always guarantee that you are getting a good deal.I use JW copper press fittings which are just as good as viega copper press fittings without the insane price.For those of you that will probably give me crap about buying from over seas where do you think milwaukee and many other robber baron companies have their tools made?I'll give you three guesses and the first two guesses don't count. www.supplyhouse.com/Copper-Press-Fittings-Imported-21703000
I just purchased the M18 a few weeks ago. After 41years in the Plumbing Industry I wish I would have made the investment LONG ago. What a deference in man hours, yet alone the solder, flux, cleaning and Mapp gas savings! I LOVE this tool.
Larry J Cruz I do as well. I have no regrets buying the smallest one, it fits into spaces many other tools do not.
@@misterplumber What about just using pushfit fittings. You just push them on and job done
@@circlemagazine the shark bite fitting spin.alot of plumbing inspectors won't pass shark bite fittings.shark bites are really made for using only in certain applications.i would never repipe a entire house in shark bite fittings.but I have saw it done with copper. ridiculous,all the valves were moving and spinning plus not to mention the amount of money spent on them😒
thanks for the video. I have notice some people have concerns about the sealing element. this is not natural rubber, it is EPDM, it's a synthetic rubber that is mostly made from gum base. if you ever tried to digest chewing gum, you know it doesn't. so if it can take the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, you should be OK with the chlorine in the water. also, the sealing element doesn't see as much of the water as many think. as long as you insert the fitting full socket, the pipe does most of the sealing and the o ring acts as the solder in a soldered joint, it holds the pressure but doesn't see velocity. I hope it clarifies some misconception about the o rings.
The compatability of EPDM and Chlorine is qualify as fair, however chlorine in water exist in parts per million, I can't really see a problem.. (refer to chemical compatability charts, Cole Palmer is a good one)
HI
How long this the system of this O ring is on the market, to prove the ageing of the O ring in it?
The other thing is only Milwaukee made that tool, and whether there is a manual crimping tools?
@@bobpitt1695 your right, the Clorine is in ppm. But I hear someone always talk about the o-ring being a weak part.
@@nabokher2000 the history of press copper goes way back, in the 1950's in Europe. So it has a steady track record of performance.
The pipe does most of the sealing ? Take the O ring out then clamp it . You will quickly change your mind as to what keeps the water in !!
Lol!!!!!!! I'm so exhausted from pressing that fitting!! 😂😂😂
Alot of people overlook one big advantage over welding that gets overlooked other than speed & efficiency.
The added safety of not needing to transport a flammable gas in a vehicle that can explode if you happen to have a leaking cylinder. The hidden dangers.....
You didn't mention deburring the pipe. Do you have to?
Wipe off the outside ends of the copper pipe with alcohol ? Clamping onto a dirty oily pipe seems dumb.
You can also use the pex heads
Do you normally debur the copper too? some say yes and some say no.
Deburr yes, but don't sand the pipes in these cases
It’s good if you’re doing big jobs and you have to wait hours for hours it’s got its applications it’s still better to solder when possible it’s more durable
No, it's not
Can they twist any after crimped?
Where do they sell the fittings. I went to home depot and they dont sell them.
Professional plumbers don't get there supplies at chain home centers. Try a plumbing supply house.
I have a question if u wanted to use a hot shot on it would it still work? Send electric current thro it
I have a question. I propress a fitting and it did not grab tight it would turn like a sharkbite. I was surprised cause its the first time it does that. Why did that happen?
That's a question for Viega or whomever the manufacturer of the fitting was.
How does the connection actually hold together? Push fittings have teeth that bite in but with this tool it just looks like it's compressing the pipe and relying on a friction fit which I don't trust. Does it indent small marks in the pipe to act as a mechanical connection or something?
How has this held up over the years? Any issues?
Haven't had a single leak since we started using Propress.
misterplumber that’s good to hear! Any issues with the M12 press tool specifically?
itas0r None, it is adequately powered although if there is to be much pressing I will use the large capacity battery. Being compactit is great for tight spaces. Most jobs I go on wouldn't fit the large gun.
Thanks! I couldn't decide between the Ridgid RP200-B or the Milwaukee M12 Press Tool, but I ended up with the M12 mostly due to the idea of being able to use it with 1 hand in tight places. I've had it almost a year, but haven't used it much. Glad to hear it holds up well with a lot of use. I do have an M12 XC6.0 battery, which is nice because it makes the press tool stand up (and it lasts forever!).
Can it be used how high pressure for airconditioner
Yes but only with special jaws such as Zoom-Lock
How much are those Propress Copper
@Mark Steven really ?
I just spend 1800 dlls in a ridgid propress. I wish the fittings were cheap since i bought the expensive tool already.
You'll make up for it with speed of installation.
@@misterplumber what is the difference between the sharkbite ffitings and propress? Does it make sence to own the tool imstead of using sharkbite?
@@johndoe-ci1cy what a silly question
I’m a Master Plumber in Michigan.
Not a fan. I’ll solder my joints anyway vs using this.
I understand how you feel, It took me a while to convert as well. I still solder copper drainage fittings. I use the Megapress on gas piping now too.
With some press fittings being so ridiculously expensive I combine solder fittings with press fittings.In other words I solder unions and ball valves to copper pipe nipples then I use copper press couplings,copper press elbows and copper press tees where ever I need which gives me the best of both worlds.You don't need to spend so much for a good press tool,I recently bought a 18volt press tool that came with standard press jaws for U.S. copper pipe sizes 1/2" through 1-1/4" and I only paid around $1,000.00 for the press tool kit from over seas.I don't care for milwaukee for several reasons.Reason number one is that the milwaukee m18,like its predecessor the milwaukee m12,is ridiculously expensive and reason number two is that both the milwaukee m12 and m18 press tools do not allow for the press cycle to be stopped once the press tool power buttons are press which to me is a big defect when you consider how expensive press unions and press ball valves are.If you happen to be up on a ladder and the ladder shifts and as a result you inadvertantly press the power button on the milwaukee press tools before you are sure that you are ready to press the joint you will be shit out of luck because once the power button on the milwaukee press tools is pressed the tool will not stop until the press cycle is completed.The 18volt press tool that I own stops immediately the moment I release the power button and the press tool also has a button to manually retract the press tool's ram to the ram's original position if and when the press cycle has to be interrupted.Brand names with big price tags do not always guarantee that you are getting a good deal.I use JW copper press fittings which are just as good as viega copper press fittings without the insane price.For those of you that will probably give me crap about buying from over seas where do you think milwaukee and many other robber baron companies have their tools made?I'll give you three guesses and the first two guesses don't count. www.supplyhouse.com/Copper-Press-Fittings-Imported-21703000
have you pressed 1 1/4"?
Yes, this compact tool handles it no problem.
There are other tools for pressing larger fittings but they won't fit into the places this tool does.
Would rubber o-ring inside the propress fitting gets eaten by chlorine in water and starts leaking in future?
From what I understand the o-ring plays less of a role in the seal than the other 2 copper to copper press seals. Insertion depth is key.
@@misterplumber Take the O ring out and clamp it . You will then see how much the rubber O ring plays a part in keeping the water in !
How do you n ow when it needs to be calibrated anyone ?
had the milwauke and it aint bad.... but can't come close to the Ridgid mini press gun