I love the show, I really do…and I completely get debating, expressing one’s views thoughts and opinions, BUT, when are we simply going to give Ange a chance to get it right??? It’s been 3 games in his 2ND SEASON. Were you guys where you are now in your 2nd year at LWOS…? All I’m saying is, I love Spurs, and I absolutely love Ange ball, so let’s give him the chance he DESERVES, the chance he’s ALSO dreamed of getting and NOT judging him based on 1 season.
I don’t believe that after his honeymoon period the 1st 10 games he had the worse record out of the past 5 managers. You haven’t got time in the EPL. MC LPool Arsenal don’t wait. Successful teams don’t wait. While they are winning trophies they are building with youngsters and astute buying . You wait in the EPL you will be in league 2.
When Ange says we will win something in the second season, he is talking to the players, not the fans. He is setting the bar for the players. He is going all out and he expects the same from his players regardless of outside noise. It would help if fans lifted unconditionally as well.
100 agree ... if as a parent or a coach etc. you must set high expectations if your want your children, players, employees etc. to achieve anything. If its measured it gets done.
When Ancelotti was interviewed as manager of PSG they said they wanted to win the CL? He laughed in their faces and said you are not set up to win it. It takes time just as it will with Spurs!
Super guest guys! The line up of special guests this summer has been absolutely top notch! I nominated you guys. Will vote of there's anything else too. Great work!
Great show as always Ricky with regular Matt and John Greechan's insightful understanding of Ange's system. Just a couple of points. The last seasons 31 games are not a reflection of where we are today. Firstly, we have cleaned out the squad and added new signings for Ange's benchmark. Secondly, last season we did not have consistency for the full 90 minutes. The first 3 games of the new season has shown we are a better fit, with depth in the squad and have shown our intent for the full 90 minutes in each of the games instead of 1/2 a game as was the case all last season. With Montgomery added to the coaching role of both defence and attack plays, this will make a big difference to our game. Ange's statement about winning trophies in the 2nd season is not a flippant remark. Think about our motto. "To Dare is To Do". Last season, Ange Dared to play his style within the Premier League. This season, it is all about "To Do". Fans really need to get on the train. You want to beat Arsenal. Go out and "Do It". They are there for the pickings. No Rice. Shut Saka down once and for all and they will wilt under pressure.
If we take our chances and win, then it doesnt matter how theyve scored. Theres always gonna be times we get beaten by a throughball, so we need to bury our chances, then their goal is irrelevent. We need to stick with Ange and not sack him, like we did with our last four managers, otherwise we will never break the cycle of sacking manager at the first sign of trouble whilst halff way through another rebuild!!
Didn’t work for Ossie. Not sustainable. Not sure who said it but it goes along the lines of “Forwards win you games, defences win you titles”. A sold defence is a must
@@gg025Yes, I do. This is the beginning of our second year. The doubts say more about us that we believe these teams are superior to us. We should go to their ground and give it to them. It’s literally our club motto. Let’s live up to it ⚪️👍
Great listen, thanks gents 👏 For me though… in football generally, I purely judge players, managers etc. on what they do good compared to what they do bad… we have a squad and manager over a significant time do more bad compared to good. Ange and a lot of that squad has a lot to do to change this imo… and right now, I’m not convinced they’re up to the job… Ange included
I've big doubts, I'm worried because I have a strong feeling that we won't get any single clean sheet away all season. It's not difficult to score vs us, just send a long ball behind our defence and run fast towards Vic. Opposition managers are not stupid, they have seen how easily they can hurt us. Also the way we started panicking away at Leicester (a weak team) during 20 minutes is not acceptable. Vardy almost scored a second. Imagine if we had lost away at Leicester..... 🙄
Guys, concerning Ange saying that this is usually when he wins something. I'm pretty sure that this is like Elon something he states publicly to align the mental attitudes of his players foremost of all. He doesn't want anyone to go into a season thinking 4th is a success or quarter finals (or similar) in Europa/cups etc. He wants everyone to aim for, expect and work hard for and prepare themselves for winning it. If u go in thinking 8th is okay and 6th is good, u probably act, play and prepare with another level of urgency compared to your boss setting the expectation way higher, right? Then it's up to us who support the team to be that positive force, that 12th person, outside the pitch, and to be patient. NOT constantly break up the team, restart, ask for and demand results now. That is a cycle that probably will keep u with an aging squad chasing that last little bit year after year...? Splurging recklessly, cooking the books and getting penalized and disqualified and demoted.
Tired of listening the notion that somehow our poor form from the second half of last season has carried into this season and it doesn’t matter because of stats. The football may look better but we do not create as many chances as some believe . 48 shots how many on target ..The problem is the mistakes we are making this season , Udogie giving away stupid free kicks, not taking the chances we do create, the defence making the same mistakes as last season . How much money has been spent on Angeball ..Ange always achieves in his second season so he says…v Newcastle ..I thought Newcastle defended well and we created a very few real chances.
Just call it for what it is. The signings in the summer are shocking. There must be other youngsters already at the club that should mean, Odobert, Gray, Bergvall, Yang should not need to have money spent on them. The forward players are Postecoglou signings. No excuses I'm afraid.
Other clubs want us to be divided with Ange out, don’t fall for it! Support the change and improvement in the players, team and mentality. We are in 4 comps this year with a younger and improved squad, I’m excited to see how it evolves #coys 🦘
Can I please ask what your definition of backing manger is? Because according to Transfermarkt, Ange has spent €377m on new players since he has been at Spurs. And he even came out during the course of last season and said every transfer decision is his. I’m not starting an argument, I’m just interested in know what the levels of expectation is when I come to “backing a manager”
@block19row13 a few more players in would have been nice like an Eze instead of a Wilson. And a 6. We also have no decent cover at LB LCB or GK. And pay the highest ticket prices in the world and have a massive turnover. And have massively reduced our wage bll. So I am sure we can afford it.
This is a frustrating conversation for me, because it projects a poor mentality onto our new coach. Here’s some highlights: “He’s cutting a frustrated figure.” Yes, the guy has high expectations. He is a winner and he wants our team to be winners too. I want him to be frustrated. “He must be doubting himself. He’s only human.” He isn’t doubting himself. He’s been winning titles for 27 years. He won 5 titles in Scotland, 1 in Japan, 4 titles in Australia and an Asian Cup. It’s you who is doubting him. He’s fine. He’s a very good coach. “In the last 30 games we have only won X many games.” What position did we come in last season at the end of the season? Was that an improvement on the previous season? So, it was a successful season then? These statistics are artificially created to cut out the first 10 games of last season when we were winning the competition. Make it 50 weeks and let’s see how we went. Am pretty sure we beat a bunch of top 10 teams last season. Liverpool, Manchester United, Newcastle United, Brighton were all beaten. We drew to Manchester City and Arsenal away. Being successful starts here. It starts in our fanbase. We should be proud that we finished in a better position last season. ⚪️🤷🏻
Ange ain’t capable of managing spurs. I am fed up of the pundits, the media etc always praising him. Last season didn’t get us top 4 and this season he can’t win a game. Ange also comes across arrogant e gives the big talk but doesn’t deliver on the pitch. He can’t beat no big clubs so why is he managing us. He lost 4 games in a row last season towards the end and had a go at us spurs fans for wanting to stop arsenal win the league. If he don’t get rivalry then F**K off. Get rid asap and bring in a winner like Thomas Tuchel.
Ten game, new manager bounce then a mid table team.Defensively frail which isnt going to change.30 goals in defence behind the top teams and 20 goals in attack.The attack hasn't improved much(19 goal v 17 goal striker) and the defence hasn't changed.Will be an achievement to get in top 6.
Talking nonsense any coach if he gets who he wants can have a better chance of winning. It’s what game plan you can orchestrate with your current squad. Don’t dare compare other weak leagues with EPL.
This is just a WORD of OPINION not only for this pod but nearly all of you who have become too toxic to Coach Centric all Coaches, in fact, are either messiahs or villains from weak to weak which is insane unless you're catering is aimed at kid's'' or adults who haven't fully mentally grown up yet those pod or shows are a major turn off players are on the pitch and they are a major part in a game yet minimal effort placed on them and in the last game at least there is a lot to dissect on their efforts
Fantastic? You think 'fantastic' is a synonym for 'hasn't won anything yet'? Because that's what we're doing, right? Being 'fantastically' unsuccessful. Our defense is so solid, it's like a screen door on a submarine - totally useless. Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool? They're probably having a good laugh at our expense, picturing us as a bunch of clowns trying to play football. And our wingers? They're like a pack of rabid squirrels, but instead of nuts, they're chasing after goals they can't catch. Ange's attacking football? It's a chaotic symphony of misplaced passes and missed opportunities, a glorious spectacle of wasted potential. We've outscored everyone? That's great, because scoring goals is the only thing that matters in football, right? Winning trophies? Who needs those? We're just here to entertain with our spectacularly incompetent brand of "football." Ange's a genius? He's a magician who's only good at pulling rabbits out of hats, but never actually makes the rabbit disappear. He's going to win us every trophy this season? Sure, and I'm going to win the lottery tomorrow. But hey, at least we're 'fantastic.' In our own little delusional world, that is.
We will see… you all want instant success …. It’s not going to happen … if we finished some of our chances you’d be signing from the stands … the football we are playing is fantastic and if we keep doing that every week success will just come … watch how many teams go to Newcastle this year and dominate like we did …. Prob 1/2 at most … he will fix it and results will come and keen to hear your view then …
We will see… you all want instant success …. It’s not going to happen … if we finished some of our chances you’d be signing from the stands … the football we are playing is fantastic and if we keep doing that every week success will just come … watch how many teams go to Newcastle this year and dominate like we did …. Prob 1/2 at most … he will fix it and results will come and keen to hear your view then …
Very interesting listening to John. We have to give Ange a lot more time to get everything together.
I love the show, I really do…and I completely get debating, expressing one’s views thoughts and opinions, BUT, when are we simply going to give Ange a chance to get it right??? It’s been 3 games in his 2ND SEASON. Were you guys where you are now in your 2nd year at LWOS…? All I’m saying is, I love Spurs, and I absolutely love Ange ball, so let’s give him the chance he DESERVES, the chance he’s ALSO dreamed of getting and NOT judging him based on 1 season.
Finally..
Well said mate buy unfortunately there is a bunch of bananas out there that want a quick fix
I don’t believe that after his honeymoon period the 1st 10 games he had the worse record out of the past 5 managers.
You haven’t got time in the EPL.
MC LPool Arsenal don’t wait. Successful teams don’t wait. While they are winning trophies they are building with youngsters and astute buying .
You wait in the EPL you will be in league 2.
When Ange says we will win something in the second season, he is talking to the players, not the fans. He is setting the bar for the players. He is going all out and he expects the same from his players regardless of outside noise. It would help if fans lifted unconditionally as well.
Any Proof ? ..........Mate.😅
@@genesisfox9 No proof, just my experience as a coach.
100 agree ... if as a parent or a coach etc. you must set high expectations if your want your children, players, employees etc. to achieve anything. If its measured it gets done.
Great guest. Thank you John Greechan.
You can’t judge the fan base online ! The people calling for Ange to go don’t understand the reality of football and what it takes to have success.
Nor does Daniel Levy or his board .
They do. Thats why Ange will be sacked soon.😅😅😅
🎯
When Ancelotti was interviewed as manager of PSG they said they wanted to win the CL? He laughed in their faces and said you are not set up to win it. It takes time just as it will with Spurs!
@@genesisfox9 Makes no odds Whats the story Top four glory ..beginning an end for ENiC
Super guest guys! The line up of special guests this summer has been absolutely top notch!
I nominated you guys.
Will vote of there's anything else too.
Great work!
Loser Patrol.
@@genesisfox9 🤣. And Imagine you've stopped to comment...doesn't say much about you does it ?
John Greechan was such a good guest.
Well done Rick & Matt. Excellent questions,
Great show as always Ricky with regular Matt and John Greechan's insightful understanding of Ange's system. Just a couple of points. The last seasons 31 games are not a reflection of where we are today. Firstly, we have cleaned out the squad and added new signings for Ange's benchmark. Secondly, last season we did not have consistency for the full 90 minutes. The first 3 games of the new season has shown we are a better fit, with depth in the squad and have shown our intent for the full 90 minutes in each of the games instead of 1/2 a game as was the case all last season. With Montgomery added to the coaching role of both defence and attack plays, this will make a big difference to our game. Ange's statement about winning trophies in the 2nd season is not a flippant remark. Think about our motto. "To Dare is To Do". Last season, Ange Dared to play his style within the Premier League. This season, it is all about "To Do". Fans really need to get on the train. You want to beat Arsenal. Go out and "Do It". They are there for the pickings. No Rice. Shut Saka down once and for all and they will wilt under pressure.
Great stuff, just what we needed right now. COYS!
If we take our chances and win, then it doesnt matter how theyve scored. Theres always gonna be times we get beaten by a throughball, so we need to bury our chances, then their goal is irrelevent. We need to stick with Ange and not sack him, like we did with our last four managers, otherwise we will never break the cycle of sacking manager at the first sign of trouble whilst halff way through another rebuild!!
Do you see the "we score more than you" philosophy consistently working over a 38 game season against the likes of City, Liverpool, and Arsenal?
Didn’t work for Ossie. Not sustainable. Not sure who said it but it goes along the lines of “Forwards win you games, defences win you titles”. A sold defence is a must
💯 agree with Indiana.
@@gg025Yes, I do. This is the beginning of our second year. The doubts say more about us that we believe these teams are superior to us. We should go to their ground and give it to them. It’s literally our club motto. Let’s live up to it ⚪️👍
@@rontully9031Real step back in time. Ossie didn't have the players to do it.
Great listen, thanks gents 👏
For me though… in football generally, I purely judge players, managers etc. on what they do good compared to what they do bad… we have a squad and manager over a significant time do more bad compared to good. Ange and a lot of that squad has a lot to do to change this imo… and right now, I’m not convinced they’re up to the job… Ange included
I've big doubts, I'm worried because I have a strong feeling that we won't get any single clean sheet away all season. It's not difficult to score vs us, just send a long ball behind our defence and run fast towards Vic. Opposition managers are not stupid, they have seen how easily they can hurt us.
Also the way we started panicking away at Leicester (a weak team) during 20 minutes is not acceptable. Vardy almost scored a second. Imagine if we had lost away at Leicester..... 🙄
Brilliant podcast loved it
Players are about building a legacy for the club..both financially and skill set, especially w the younger ones
Dont forget the Hotels.....Mate.😅😅😅
Hey mayyigchun I’d be absolutely devastated if Ange was to leave.we’re on a rebuild,and Ange seems to be very good at it.COYS.
Great show
I'm so conflicted. One minute, I'll feel buoyant, and the next minute, I'll feel we are not gonna achieve much with Ange. I blame social media.
It's the social media mate , my hunch is this project is one good performance away from taking off.
No blame The Bluffer and Levy. 😅😅😅
Guys, concerning Ange saying that this is usually when he wins something.
I'm pretty sure that this is like Elon something he states publicly to align the mental attitudes of his players foremost of all. He doesn't want anyone to go into a season thinking 4th is a success or quarter finals (or similar) in Europa/cups etc.
He wants everyone to aim for, expect and work hard for and prepare themselves for winning it.
If u go in thinking 8th is okay and 6th is good, u probably act, play and prepare with another level of urgency compared to your boss setting the expectation way higher, right?
Then it's up to us who support the team to be that positive force, that 12th person, outside the pitch, and to be patient. NOT constantly break up the team, restart, ask for and demand results now. That is a cycle that probably will keep u with an aging squad chasing that last little bit year after year...? Splurging recklessly, cooking the books and getting penalized and disqualified and demoted.
Tired of listening the notion that somehow our poor form from the second half of last season has carried into this season and it doesn’t matter because of stats. The football may look better but we do not create as many chances as some believe . 48 shots how many on target ..The problem is the mistakes we are making this season , Udogie giving away stupid free kicks, not taking the chances we do create, the defence making the same mistakes as last season .
How much money has been spent on Angeball ..Ange always achieves in his second season so he says…v Newcastle ..I thought Newcastle defended well and we created a very few real chances.
Let's sack Ange what do you think? Bring back poch oh sorry he won jack shit oh let's bring conte back oh sorry he won jack shit
Based on John Greecham's analysis, I will say Romero and Bissouma are least suited because they switch off at crucial moments.
Just call it for what it is. The signings in the summer are shocking. There must be other youngsters already at the club that should mean, Odobert, Gray, Bergvall, Yang should not need to have money spent on them. The forward players are Postecoglou signings. No excuses I'm afraid.
Other clubs want us to be divided with Ange out, don’t fall for it! Support the change and improvement in the players, team and mentality. We are in 4 comps this year with a younger and improved squad, I’m excited to see how it evolves #coys 🦘
💯 agree ⚪️👍
What about Levy Out ? 😅
Sad the board have not backed a manager again, a few injuries and we are f Ed again. LEVYOUT
Can I please ask what your definition of backing manger is? Because according to Transfermarkt, Ange has spent €377m on new players since he has been at Spurs. And he even came out during the course of last season and said every transfer decision is his.
I’m not starting an argument, I’m just interested in know what the levels of expectation is when I come to “backing a manager”
@block19row13 a few more players in would have been nice like an Eze instead of a Wilson. And a 6. We also have no decent cover at LB LCB or GK. And pay the highest ticket prices in the world and have a massive turnover. And have massively reduced our wage bll. So I am sure we can afford it.
Fantastic pod, really balanced perspective on Ange 🇦🇺
The guy is gone by Xmas and good riddance.
This is a frustrating conversation for me, because it projects a poor mentality onto our new coach.
Here’s some highlights:
“He’s cutting a frustrated figure.”
Yes, the guy has high expectations. He is a winner and he wants our team to be winners too. I want him to be frustrated.
“He must be doubting himself. He’s only human.”
He isn’t doubting himself. He’s been winning titles for 27 years. He won 5 titles in Scotland, 1 in Japan, 4 titles in Australia and an Asian Cup. It’s you who is doubting him. He’s fine. He’s a very good coach.
“In the last 30 games we have only won X many games.”
What position did we come in last season at the end of the season? Was that an improvement on the previous season? So, it was a successful season then?
These statistics are artificially created to cut out the first 10 games of last season when we were winning the competition.
Make it 50 weeks and let’s see how we went. Am pretty sure we beat a bunch of top 10 teams last season.
Liverpool, Manchester United, Newcastle United, Brighton were all beaten. We drew to Manchester City and Arsenal away.
Being successful starts here. It starts in our fanbase. We should be proud that we finished in a better position last season.
⚪️🤷🏻
Ange ain’t capable of managing spurs. I am fed up of the pundits, the media etc always praising him. Last season didn’t get us top 4 and this season he can’t win a game. Ange also comes across arrogant e gives the big talk but doesn’t deliver on the pitch. He can’t beat no big clubs so why is he managing us. He lost 4 games in a row last season towards the end and had a go at us spurs fans for wanting to stop arsenal win the league. If he don’t get rivalry then F**K off.
Get rid asap and bring in a winner like Thomas Tuchel.
Go back to stelois pod.
We should sign Ramos on a free, to be the old wise head to guide the young team.
We cant say we were good against Everton. they were shocking!! if Solanke doesn't fire for us we're in big trouble
A lot of pressure on one guy. Unfortunately, he won’t stop us conceding.
Ten game, new manager bounce then a mid table team.Defensively frail which isnt going to change.30 goals in defence behind the top teams and 20 goals in attack.The attack hasn't improved much(19 goal v 17 goal striker) and the defence hasn't changed.Will be an achievement to get in top 6.
Talking nonsense any coach if he gets who he wants can have a better chance of winning. It’s what game plan you can orchestrate with your current squad. Don’t dare compare other weak leagues with EPL.
But Fat Ange said he was happy, did he not ?.😅😅😅
@@genesisfox9 yes he did mate
We can still do the pressing game just drop 10 yrds so it cant be played over the top
Solanke brought in way too late, no pre-season and now needs time to adjust.
This is just a WORD of OPINION not only for this pod but nearly all of you who have become too toxic to Coach Centric all Coaches, in fact, are either messiahs or villains from weak to weak which is insane unless you're catering is aimed at kid's'' or adults who haven't fully mentally grown up yet those pod or shows are a major turn off players are on the pitch and they are a major part in a game yet minimal effort placed on them and in the last game at least there is a lot to dissect on their efforts
Fantastic? You think 'fantastic' is a synonym for 'hasn't won anything yet'? Because that's what we're doing, right? Being 'fantastically' unsuccessful. Our defense is so solid, it's like a screen door on a submarine - totally useless. Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool? They're probably having a good laugh at our expense, picturing us as a bunch of clowns trying to play football. And our wingers? They're like a pack of rabid squirrels, but instead of nuts, they're chasing after goals they can't catch. Ange's attacking football? It's a chaotic symphony of misplaced passes and missed opportunities, a glorious spectacle of wasted potential. We've outscored everyone? That's great, because scoring goals is the only thing that matters in football, right? Winning trophies? Who needs those? We're just here to entertain with our spectacularly incompetent brand of "football." Ange's a genius? He's a magician who's only good at pulling rabbits out of hats, but never actually makes the rabbit disappear. He's going to win us every trophy this season? Sure, and I'm going to win the lottery tomorrow. But hey, at least we're 'fantastic.' In our own little delusional world, that is.
It's a rebuild 😂 have some patience ffs
We will see… you all want instant success …. It’s not going to happen … if we finished some of our chances you’d be signing from the stands … the football we are playing is fantastic and if we keep doing that every week success will just come … watch how many teams go to Newcastle this year and dominate like we did …. Prob 1/2 at most … he will fix it and results will come and keen to hear your view then …
We will see… you all want instant success …. It’s not going to happen … if we finished some of our chances you’d be signing from the stands … the football we are playing is fantastic and if we keep doing that every week success will just come … watch how many teams go to Newcastle this year and dominate like we did …. Prob 1/2 at most … he will fix it and results will come and keen to hear your view then …
@@julianmoerman770Rebuild ? He signed Johnson, and Werner.......TWICE !!!😅😅😅
consider sacking Ange now, and a season later we will be facing him at another prem club that would snap him up