I just bought an EV M30. It’s incredible. I play 150 + shows per year, mostly smaller venues solo or trio. This pa is perfect for 75% of my shows. Even with my trio. Great video as always.
I played a full-band gig with two Evolve 50's. Guitars were all direct and the drums were Vdrums. Those speakers sounded amazing and two will handle a club, smaller outdoor gig (few hundred people), and most of the needs of a DJ. They are easy to cart around and set up.
I recently got a RCF Evox JMX8. You are so right. These modern simple PA's are stunningly good and loud as fxxx. They hold the volume without breaking up into distortion. You don't really notice how loud until you try and talk/shout to the person next to you.
I use the EV30 in a trio (percussion, keys, guitar, & vocals). For acoustic guitar, I use a pre-amp pedal & electric I run a Quilter Superblock direct in. It sounds great, simple set-up, & is very capable for small indoor gigs. For a full band you could pair two of the of the 50's. I also play in a 80's rock band & we have our own PA. For that I also use the Quilter on my pedal board for direct out & have had no need for a traditional amp on stage in several years.
My trio's guitarist owns an EV Evolve 50M, and it is OUTSTANDING! The 50M is worth the extra - there's a High Pass Filter that can be engaged in each input, the mobile device mixer is super easy to use and is really powerful. Plus, you get quite a few more inputs! We run violin, acoustic guitar and my upright/double bass into it, and it has been wonderful!
May I ask, what camera, mic and audio interface are you using? If you'd rather keep that secret, it's cool. Merry Christmas🎄the same, albeit with Canadian🇨🇦dollars.
I fully reject the idea of giving the audience, or even worse the venue, what they want. We must give them what they need - even if it hurts! ;) that said, Merry Christmas, Andy!
That’s a sweet piece of gear but not something I would ever need. I’m a beginner guitar 🎸 player noodling around in my living room learning about guitars and amps. That is the first time I heard you sing 🎤 and was surprised how good you sound. Nice job❕Happy Holidays 🎄🎅‼️More guitars and amps in 2025. 👍☮️🌞🎸🎵
Yes i did. So i guess the guitar would still sound ok with vocals and keyboards etc going through the system. It is just that i have never played this way and i am so used to a dedicated guitar amp. I haven't played big enough venues to need to mic my ac30
I confess I’m a tad confused as to the goal of this video. So, the sound guy running the PA complains about the volume of your guitar and amp, so then your next option is an amp-less setup with a Tonex or whatever direct to the PA… but if there is a house PA system, why would you buy and bring your own PA speaker? And if there is no house PA system, you’re not going to have a house sound engineer telling you how to run your amp… So just bring your amp… ? Wut?
A lot of places don’t allow amps anymore, or if they do, the volume has to be lower than you’d need to get your tone. That’s the purpose of this video/product. It doesn’t sound like you gig I’d guess?
@ I’d guess you didn’t really read my comment. If you’re not allowed to bring your amp onstage, you use a modeller and DI into the house PA. Okay, so what would be the point of bringing your own PA if you’re running a modeller into the house PA?
William The Cat is adorable. At the moment I'm running my Tonex into a poweramp and then into a 2X12 because that is still less weight than hauling a triple rectifier. Something like this might cut that weight down even more. Hmmm. I shall consider it.
Thought these mini pseudo line arrays were kind of cool when they first came out and they can control vertical dispersion better than a MT design but a big stack just looks better for a rock band. FIne for a cafe gig or solo artists but if I am going to a concert I want a big loud backline and FOH system that can keep up with it.
Ive been an Acoustic solo musician for about 13 years now. Used to use the nice Bose system L1 type 2 with the B2 Sub and Tone match. I finally got tired of lugging that around. That system sounded excellent but it just had too many pieces. I switched to the Evolve 30 M first and I like it but it wasn’t enough for the outdoor gigs I play. So I just purchased EV 50 M this year. The Evolve is great for the price But I don’t think it sounds better then the Bose. I know there is a lighter Bose now but its about twice the price of the EV 50 m too.
Yes, but if you're looking for a more realistic "amp-in-the-room" vibe, the sub really simulates the low-end thump feeling you get when playing through bigger wattage amps with 2x12" / 4x12" / 1x15" cabs...
Two is better, but the amazing thing is that you can use them at every gig (rather than using the shitty PA they offer you...), they are easy to set up, you know how they sound and you never have to deal with bad surprises during the gig. I think every singer should buy one, instead of buying just a mic. The singer should be independent like any other members. If a guitarist or bassist make an effort to carry his own speakers, I can't see why the singer should expect to carry just a tiny microphone.
What is that gold SG I see every now and then in your videos, it’s about the same colour as my fire mist gold strat. Btw, I like your straight up no nonsense replies to some of these comments 😂
Bose has been doing this for years. They look the same as this EV unit. Are they pretty much the same? Btw- I played a gig with a 5 person acoustic band in a school auditorium with one of those Bose PA’s and the event people told us to turn the voice down!
I have been using a Fishman line array PA for at least 10 years now for solo gigs. And band gigs. All in one and not too heavy. The advantage is it's an all in one system and no monitor or feedback. This is nothing new.
Class D It's pretty inexpensive to manufacture... Just as for consumer electronics.... It became really popular among many audio files because of how little distortion and how accurate The sound was and how incredibly cheap it was.... So I hope they put some real money into the speakers with these systems! Otherwise the markup it would be absolutely insane!
Here is the best tip for getting great live sound: each member of your band puts $10 or $20 in the hat and you personally give it to the house sound engineer and have a chat about your set. Follow this up by sending a beer his way.
The main problem for me is that the quality is so bad nowadays. The quality is much better and the prices are much lower in kislux small boutiques. There is just no marketing. When I was a little girl the luxury goods were much better than the cheaper brands.
yeah the three use-cases in this video are somewhat useless. If you'd play with a full band you probably wouldn't substitute a amp with your own PA but just use *the* PA of the venue (assuming you are not doing the kind of shows where you bring your own PA) meaning you only hear yourself throug the floor wedges. In a rehearsal space you would probably at least run additional mics into it since no band would buy individual 1700 € compact PAs for each member who needs a PA. And the kind of solo-musician singer-songwriter guitar player usually is pretty well set with a 400 bucks active PA speaker. My assumption would be: the EV evolve is underpowered for actual full stage PA duty, overpriced for sole monitoring purposes and overblown for the kind of minimalist solo mini gig.
You assume a lot here and thinking it’s not necessary to bring your own PA is one of the things you got wrong. Bringing a PA is 100% necessary at most of the gigs I play. My assumption is that you’ve never gone out as a singer songwriter or have much band experience but there are issues with assumptions.
@@TheGuitarGeek 90% of gigs I play we are required to supply sound. Quickly got tired of overpaying for sound guys who arrive late bringing equipment we don't need, so we finally bought a PA & now just have to pay someone to bring an Ipad to run it. Or run it myself... not fun while having to perform but sometimes you do what you have to do.
I have to disagree respectfully based on my own situation. In Tokyo, most clubs have amps and a PA system, but restaurants and places like street festivals or one-off gigs often don't. For bars, it can be 50/50, depending on whether or not they have regular live music. I have a PA and mixer (which I use with a guitar and a Strymon Iridium) and it has saved me a lot in rental fees and hassles over the years - especially because, as it's my stuff, I know how to set it up and can easily do so quickly and in the optimum way for a given space. The one thing I don't own any more is a big amp. I can't crank one up at home and venues where an amp would be appropriate will have one already. There's usually at least a Marshall and a Roland JC-120 or something along those lines. Something like this EV thingy would be ideal for a gigging musician in Japan.
I’d be fine with one of these columns as a monitor for guitar alone, and in that case, I believe it would be moving enough air. Although that’s overkill, I might as well use an amp. But I do not want other instruments coming out of the same speaker/s my guitar does. That ‘feels’ too much like a DJ, a recording. The sense of an instrument and its amplification being a point source instrument is key for me on stage. For the same reason, I can live with in-ears for a monitor mix and vocals, but I need whatever instrument I’m playing to come from its own source as well. And a guitar amp is ideal for a guitar - a mini stack like this is overkill for a single guitar. And, it doesn’t need to be a single use PA, a closed back combo on a riser pointing at my head is fine. But I don’t like playing with everything pre-mixed. Nobody has ever told me to turn down on stage, either. But I do try to consider everyone, if my guitar sound needs to suffer slightly for the whole performance, that’s fine. But not HOW I perform with guitar and amp ‘system’.
Bit pricey tbh, average gig, for a band would need 2 to project the sound. Real demo would need to see in a room full of people and competing against a drummer and guitar amps, I could see one if these maybe for a duo, but still pricey.
Not interested in the speakers Buttigieg love 🩷that Flying V. I’m planning to get the Epiphone Hendrix Love Drops Flying V. You should get the V out more often. 👍☮️🌞🎸🎵
Guitar plays love themselves. They think theyre the most important part of the band. They always play too loud. So you turn up and so they turn up more. In the end everything is too loud.
Not true, in rock music you need a good guitarist, normally a good guitarist cares alot about his craft, and a drum is always freaking loud. If a drummer is louder than the guitarist, would you like it? I would leave immediately.
@@nigellacey559 What I mean is everything is dictated by the drums, which are very loud even without any mics. A clean guiitar might seam ok, and a distorted guiitar is perceived as loud, when in fact theiir vol is the same in db.
It sounds crap. It's got no balls, and my valve amps sound a million times better. There isn't anything that would change my mind about using my amps over that.
The EV pa is great. QSC and EV are THE top shelve companies. But the guitar sounds like crap. Missing mids. Flat. All the visceral nature and even order harmonics are gone.
he cant say it i do: frfr is overpriced snakeoil for style concious guitarists. if your modelling, there are gazillion compact column pas running circles around any (most-barefaced is great) frfr for the same price. even my bose s1 can. trick is to cut your modellers global eq at 60hz, and try a high cut down to 6khz or even 5. check if your missing smthg.
Thomann Links to the EV Evolve 50 - thmn.to/thocf/xem22mstnf
I just bought an EV M30. It’s incredible. I play 150 + shows per year, mostly smaller venues solo or trio. This pa is perfect for 75% of my shows. Even with my trio. Great video as always.
Wow, Andy, you can sing! I have watched a lot of your videos, and don't recall ever seeing you do vocals... Well done! Cheers!
Never heard you sing before. Love it- not what I expected from your speaking voice. You’ve got the gig if I remarry and don’t go with a punk band!
I played a full-band gig with two Evolve 50's. Guitars were all direct and the drums were Vdrums. Those speakers sounded amazing and two will handle a club, smaller outdoor gig (few hundred people), and most of the needs of a DJ. They are easy to cart around and set up.
Thanks for sharing! I would love to try two together
I recently got a RCF Evox JMX8. You are so right. These modern simple PA's are stunningly good and loud as fxxx. They hold the volume without breaking up into distortion. You don't really notice how loud until you try and talk/shout to the person next to you.
I didn't know my boy could sing! Wow, Andy, that was phenomenal!
Wow Andy, nice voice! Lets see more Andy singing a playing!
Andy, you need to do more accoustic Guutar stuff and you need to sing more on the channel. You have a very nice voice.
Thank you, I have plenty more coming
@@TheGuitarGeek dont need to hear that Andy..... just the singing and guitar please.
I use the EV30 in a trio (percussion, keys, guitar, & vocals). For acoustic guitar, I use a pre-amp pedal & electric I run a Quilter Superblock direct in. It sounds great, simple set-up, & is very capable for small indoor gigs. For a full band you could pair two of the of the 50's. I also play in a 80's rock band & we have our own PA. For that I also use the Quilter on my pedal board for direct out & have had no need for a traditional amp on stage in several years.
Soft tubescreamer on the background is absolutely gorgeous🤘🤘🤘
I came here to say say that :D
My trio's guitarist owns an EV Evolve 50M, and it is OUTSTANDING! The 50M is worth the extra - there's a High Pass Filter that can be engaged in each input, the mobile device mixer is super easy to use and is really powerful. Plus, you get quite a few more inputs!
We run violin, acoustic guitar and my upright/double bass into it, and it has been wonderful!
Very nice voice Andy!
Holy frijole!! You sound great on vocals!
May I ask, what camera, mic and audio interface are you using? If you'd rather keep that secret, it's cool. Merry Christmas🎄the same, albeit with Canadian🇨🇦dollars.
I’m impressed with your playing and singing.
what a great singing voice! i didn't see that coming!
Loved the segue between "I do a lot of weddings" into a rendition of Dave Van Ronk's Hang Me, O Hang Me
Came for Gear, stayed because of the Singing! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I have one of these in white, so easy to plug into and just have fun with.
Andy you sing wonderfully.
Just me but hearing playing weddings and you start singing, "hang me, hang me" was pretty funny.
I fully reject the idea of giving the audience, or even worse the venue, what they want. We must give them what they need - even if it hurts! ;) that said, Merry Christmas, Andy!
@@lilleaton tell it like it is brother..fight the power 💪
All the aliasing form toneX makes it really hard to hear how the top is. There really are so many better options
Merry Christmas Andy, and all
Pretty nice. I play in a band that uses something like this. It hadn’t occurred to me to run the lead through it, however.
I play my Helix LT through my PA it sounds great 👍
If that isn‘t the Ibanez Rocket Roll from that auction video. 😂 Congrats on the purchase!
That’s a sweet piece of gear but not something I would ever need. I’m a beginner guitar 🎸 player noodling around in my living room learning about guitars and amps. That is the first time I heard you sing 🎤 and was surprised how good you sound. Nice job❕Happy Holidays 🎄🎅‼️More guitars and amps in 2025. 👍☮️🌞🎸🎵
Great for busking😊
Possibly a bit overpowered for busking but id love to!
What a great singer Andy is.
Thank you Stuart. I love singing
I got 2 everse8 speakers, just magic ✨
how does it handle lead guitar as well as the rest of a band?. I presume that is how it would be used. Great video as always.
Did you watch the part with the backing track?
Yes i did. So i guess the guitar would still sound ok with vocals and keyboards etc going through the system. It is just that i have never played this way and i am so used to a dedicated guitar amp. I haven't played big enough venues to need to mic my ac30
I confess I’m a tad confused as to the goal of this video. So, the sound guy running the PA complains about the volume of your guitar and amp, so then your next option is an amp-less setup with a Tonex or whatever direct to the PA… but if there is a house PA system, why would you buy and bring your own PA speaker? And if there is no house PA system, you’re not going to have a house sound engineer telling you how to run your amp… So just bring your amp… ? Wut?
A lot of places don’t allow amps anymore, or if they do, the volume has to be lower than you’d need to get your tone. That’s the purpose of this video/product. It doesn’t sound like you gig I’d guess?
@ I’d guess you didn’t really read my comment. If you’re not allowed to bring your amp onstage, you use a modeller and DI into the house PA. Okay, so what would be the point of bringing your own PA if you’re running a modeller into the house PA?
@@darwinsaye None of course.
It's clearly a demo for people looking for a pa.
Made by a guy trying to make it make sense for guitarists
He sells stuff - are you new here? :D
Damn dude! You sound amazing.
William The Cat is adorable.
At the moment I'm running my Tonex into a poweramp and then into a 2X12 because that is still less weight than hauling a triple rectifier. Something like this might cut that weight down even more. Hmmm. I shall consider it.
wow dude you can sing as well as play and review
Thought these mini pseudo line arrays were kind of cool when they first came out and they can control vertical dispersion better than a MT design but a big stack just looks better for a rock band. FIne for a cafe gig or solo artists but if I am going to a concert I want a big loud backline and FOH system that can keep up with it.
Ive been an Acoustic solo musician for about 13 years now. Used to use the nice Bose system L1 type 2 with the B2 Sub and Tone match. I finally got tired of lugging that around. That system sounded excellent but it just had too many pieces. I switched to the Evolve 30 M first and I like it but it wasn’t enough for the outdoor gigs I play. So I just purchased EV 50 M this year. The Evolve is great for the price But I don’t think it sounds better then the Bose. I know there is a lighter Bose now but its about twice the price of the EV 50 m too.
If the PA is only being used as a substitute for a guitar amp, is a sub not overkill?
Yes, but if you're looking for a more realistic "amp-in-the-room" vibe, the sub really simulates the low-end thump feeling you get when playing through bigger wattage amps with 2x12" / 4x12" / 1x15" cabs...
@ I see.
It would have been neat if the design allowed for the column speakers to be connected to the sub without the need for the support piece.
Been looking at these to replace our band’s cheaper setup. Would two be needed for gigs in a space that holds 200 people?
Two is better, but the amazing thing is that you can use them at every gig (rather than using the shitty PA they offer you...), they are easy to set up, you know how they sound and you never have to deal with bad surprises during the gig. I think every singer should buy one, instead of buying just a mic. The singer should be independent like any other members. If a guitarist or bassist make an effort to carry his own speakers, I can't see why the singer should expect to carry just a tiny microphone.
200 people would be perfect for this setup,
For a second I hoped they ship free cats with the PURRchase
No, don’t worry. The cat owns the house I live in
@@TheGuitarGeek😂😂😂😂so true.
I went with the Spark Live. More compact and versatile for my needs. 👍🇦🇺
What is that gold SG I see every now and then in your videos, it’s about the same colour as my fire mist gold strat. Btw, I like your straight up no nonsense replies to some of these comments 😂
Andy,
Is the ceiling in your spare room abnormally low? LOL I kept getting the idea you were going to bump your head-
I think it’s mid the camera angle… I tried to frame it for the PA, not for me
Looks like a nice bit of kit actually....
Nice video.....
Love the singing Ben E Geekie.
Question though. What if the PA sounds horrible?
I like the bass. More reverb😮
Chuck Berry just played through the house pa. He just fiddled around until he liked the tone and let it rip.
I play solo with tracks.
I love my tech 21 fly-rig plexi
Bose has been doing this for years. They look the same as this EV unit. Are they pretty much the same? Btw- I played a gig with a 5 person acoustic band in a school auditorium with one of those Bose PA’s and the event people told us to turn the voice down!
you need in ear monitors with a bias towards your guitar feed.
I have been using a Fishman line array PA for at least 10 years now for solo gigs. And band gigs. All in one and not too heavy. The advantage is it's an all in one system and no monitor or feedback. This is nothing new.
Please show us your line 6 hd500
Where are you from?
no way would that get over the average crowd in my local pub at less than 100db , i hope it gets MUCH louder than that
at 1500 spondoolies, they can keep it. I mean, to play in true stereo, you need two of the buggers.
Class D It's pretty inexpensive to manufacture... Just as for consumer electronics.... It became really popular among many audio files because of how little distortion and how accurate The sound was and how incredibly cheap it was.... So I hope they put some real money into the speakers with these systems! Otherwise the markup it would be absolutely insane!
Here is the best tip for getting great live sound: each member of your band puts $10 or $20 in the hat and you personally give it to the house sound engineer and have a chat about your set. Follow this up by sending a beer his way.
William is a beautiful baby. ❤😊
Ah yes,The ultimate bed room amp.
Everytime someone complains about loudness, I notice they are sitting in front of the PA..
The main problem for me is that the quality is so bad nowadays. The quality is much better and the prices are much lower in kislux small boutiques. There is just no marketing. When I was a little girl the luxury goods were much better than the cheaper brands.
yeah the three use-cases in this video are somewhat useless. If you'd play with a full band you probably wouldn't substitute a amp with your own PA but just use *the* PA of the venue (assuming you are not doing the kind of shows where you bring your own PA) meaning you only hear yourself throug the floor wedges. In a rehearsal space you would probably at least run additional mics into it since no band would buy individual 1700 € compact PAs for each member who needs a PA. And the kind of solo-musician singer-songwriter guitar player usually is pretty well set with a 400 bucks active PA speaker.
My assumption would be: the EV evolve is underpowered for actual full stage PA duty, overpriced for sole monitoring purposes and overblown for the kind of minimalist solo mini gig.
You assume a lot here and thinking it’s not necessary to bring your own PA is one of the things you got wrong. Bringing a PA is 100% necessary at most of the gigs I play.
My assumption is that you’ve never gone out as a singer songwriter or have much band experience but there are issues with assumptions.
@@TheGuitarGeek 90% of gigs I play we are required to supply sound. Quickly got tired of overpaying for sound guys who arrive late bringing equipment we don't need, so we finally bought a PA & now just have to pay someone to bring an Ipad to run it. Or run it myself... not fun while having to perform but sometimes you do what you have to do.
I have to disagree respectfully based on my own situation. In Tokyo, most clubs have amps and a PA system, but restaurants and places like street festivals or one-off gigs often don't. For bars, it can be 50/50, depending on whether or not they have regular live music. I have a PA and mixer (which I use with a guitar and a Strymon Iridium) and it has saved me a lot in rental fees and hassles over the years - especially because, as it's my stuff, I know how to set it up and can easily do so quickly and in the optimum way for a given space.
The one thing I don't own any more is a big amp. I can't crank one up at home and venues where an amp would be appropriate will have one already. There's usually at least a Marshall and a Roland JC-120 or something along those lines.
Something like this EV thingy would be ideal for a gigging musician in Japan.
The studio rats did a great video on this a few months back
Cats do have superior hearing thus they love EV
Fish ain't bitin', unless you're acoustic. Not enough air moving. Yes, I'm a boomer.
I’d be fine with one of these columns as a monitor for guitar alone, and in that case, I believe it would be moving enough air. Although that’s overkill, I might as well use an amp. But I do not want other instruments coming out of the same speaker/s my guitar does. That ‘feels’ too much like a DJ, a recording. The sense of an instrument and its amplification being a point source instrument is key for me on stage. For the same reason, I can live with in-ears for a monitor mix and vocals, but I need whatever instrument I’m playing to come from its own source as well. And a guitar amp is ideal for a guitar - a mini stack like this is overkill for a single guitar. And, it doesn’t need to be a single use PA, a closed back combo on a riser pointing at my head is fine. But I don’t like playing with everything pre-mixed.
Nobody has ever told me to turn down on stage, either. But I do try to consider everyone, if my guitar sound needs to suffer slightly for the whole performance, that’s fine. But not HOW I perform with guitar and amp ‘system’.
Lowkey first
What’s the name of the gold guitar on the stand? It’s looks really nice!
Droopy Dali headstock suggests it's a Baum.
(4 months ago, Baum Carve review)
@ Thanks for the reply.🤘
Vocals and acoustic guitar....good sound, Electric.....forget it.....
Bit pricey tbh, average gig, for a band would need 2 to project the sound. Real demo would need to see in a room full of people and competing against a drummer and guitar amps, I could see one if these maybe for a duo, but still pricey.
Not interested in the speakers Buttigieg love 🩷that Flying V. I’m planning to get the Epiphone Hendrix Love Drops Flying V. You should get the V out more often. 👍☮️🌞🎸🎵
Stand by me
You’re a cat person, no wonder you’re so 😎 😊
Over topple. Also known as topple over? 😂😂😂😂
No need to defend your voice. You definitely have some ability and you should be more vocal about it . . . see what I did there
😉
Thanks! Not defending the voice but the eq on the PA. I love singing!
Oh great! now instead of can you turn that guitar amp down it's can you turn the pot-bellied stove down please
Those knobs are really bad quality.....My god, on such an expensive product.
I know but we’ve been using EV speakers for our stage monitors for several years now and no issues yet.
@@tonepilot Sure, i m sure it s no problem. But such a product deserved better knobs. EV makes great stuff :)
Guitar plays love themselves. They think theyre the most important part of the band. They always play too loud. So you turn up and so they turn up more. In the end everything is too loud.
Not true, in rock music you need a good guitarist, normally a good guitarist cares alot about his craft, and a drum is always freaking loud. If a drummer is louder than the guitarist, would you like it? I would leave immediately.
@myuncle2 yeah drummers are bad but guitarists are ths worst. Im not just talking about rock.
The amp genuinely needs to be turned up to sound good - the problem is none of them wanna be the guy with the actually appropriately sized 15W amp XD
@@nigellacey559 What I mean is everything is dictated by the drums, which are very loud even without any mics. A clean guiitar might seam ok, and a distorted guiitar is perceived as loud, when in fact theiir vol is the same in db.
It sounds crap. It's got no balls, and my valve amps sound a million times better. There isn't anything that would change my mind about using my amps over that.
The EV pa is great. QSC and EV are THE top shelve companies. But the guitar sounds like crap. Missing mids. Flat. All the visceral nature and even order harmonics are gone.
he cant say it i do: frfr is overpriced snakeoil for style concious guitarists. if your modelling, there are gazillion compact column pas running circles around any (most-barefaced is great) frfr for the same price. even my bose s1 can. trick is to cut your modellers global eq at 60hz, and try a high cut down to 6khz or even 5. check if your missing smthg.
I can say what I want. This is not the huge conspiracy you think it is