Thank you for another awesome video - you seem to be one of the few sources of knowledge for us passengers/taxpayers regarding these elusive mysterious trains ("upgrading?" Sounds like Micosoft to me; everything there is a fault, it's never "fixed" it's "upgraded"🤣🤣)
Friends, could you please explain to me how they could have those diesels in the tunnel without everybody dying and gagging of diesel fumes and exhaust? How are those things rigged up? Thank you.
they might be heading to the N because they want to put Communications Based Train Control (CBTC) from 57th street- 7th avenue to Astoria Ditmars Blvd. In order to do that, they need new techs
Depends on distance between point A & point B, and if you can take the most direct route. Top speed on straight tangent is 25mph, and 15mph on a curve.
He said the many of the stations appear dilapidated in contrast to the shiny, new trains. Both things are true as you can see from the video, particularly at Hoyt. It goes without saying that one has nothing to do with the other and the commenter didn't say they did.
Wow, almost a year.. and the pilot set still isn’t final.. We’re not seeing the other cars 4070 etc until at least this fall or winter. And i highly doubt the planning of these entering service this summer, try next summer.
What are you talking about? It doesn’t cost a lot (if not anything) and perhaps testing the cars in real life shows that better components can work on these cars. That’s literally how testing on the real world subway system works. What works on the factory floor may not work in the actual situation. Literally every other subway car order goes through this so why can’t NYC? Why do you always have to complain about the littlest of things?
@@TheRailLeaguer agree with Cats01. Upgrades? Why is there discovery of the need for them when requirements and specifications are cleary laid out in the RFP and contract processes (which are very granular and detailed) ? Given the mature relationship of the MTA and Kawasaki, (especially in light of the R160) is there a need for this so late in the game - 1) it is not as if the physical plant of the subway has dramatically changed 2) can't blame it on CBTC either since those specs are statiic, in place and running on Alstom/Kawasaki 160s aready. 3) the physical dimensions of the cars are the same asv160/179. 4) the R211 is an evolutionary, not revolutionary product (as the NTTs were 20+ years ago at their inception). After 1800 so B division cars built by Kawasaki, they certainly should have a good enough expetiemce of what to anticipate what it takes to build them. If the MTA is at fault making changes unnecessarily during this process then shame on them for wasting taxpayer money, causing grief with pushing unreliable, deteriorating rolling stock to their limits. Typical lack of accountability or "best practices" here. Obviously thorough burn in testing is called for, but "updates belong" on the drawing board. There should be no suprises.
@Joel Rosenburg Have you not read the description? They can't run on their own power because they are currently in a disassembled formation , so there just basically empty on movement hardware.
@@TheRailLeaguer So then if they were partially disassembled in a yard shop somewhere, why were they not reassembled in the same place. What was the point of taking them to another yard? If the place that disassembled them couldn't do the whole job why weren't they taken somewhere that could?
@@johnrauner2515 They we’re disassembled at the original location, and towed to Coney Island by diesel, as only Coney Island Yard has the overhaul parts for the whole fleet. The fleet will be reassembled at Coney Island Yard.
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I love R211 subway cars
Awesome. Seeing new and modern trains being upgraded to be even more modern is dope.
Yep.
It's been a while since I've seen these new cars it's great to see them move around the transit system.
I love hearing the train horn in the tunnels. If I was driving one I would get in trouble for honking too much
Nice catch! Can’t wait for the R211s to come!
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Always a good move during acceptances process. Thanks DJHammets.😀💙
This new train will start operating in May June, right?
Thank you for another awesome video - you seem to be one of the few sources of knowledge for us passengers/taxpayers regarding these elusive mysterious trains ("upgrading?" Sounds like Micosoft to me; everything there is a fault, it's never "fixed" it's "upgraded"🤣🤣)
Are there any resources to get information such as these train movements, or are you getting these internally? Thanks.
nice to see them going back to coney island
Nice
I work in coney when was this
Amazing
How do you always know where they're gonna be to film them?
First. Love the videos. bro keep up the good work
You aren't first. Besides, the comment section isn't a competition.
Could have just said it was not a competition
oh i think is the r211 upgrade of next delivery on numbered 4070 - 4074 in 5 cars test trains
Are there any more sets of r211 going to deliver?
Yes, but unit #1 & unit #2 of this prototype set must be certified/accepted by CED QA before serialized production/acceptance can commence.
@@ArgosySpecOps that’s not a prototype set, that’s a real set that will be in revenue service.
Friends, could you please explain to me how they could have those diesels in the tunnel without everybody dying and gagging of diesel fumes and exhaust? How are those things rigged up?
Thank you.
They don't pollute that much to be a problem, and trains going by actually move the air out and bring in fresh air behind it
@@this51man Thank you so much!
I thought there would be open gangways?
Not these cars, but rather another version of the cars.
That will be the R211T, which is unknown when they will come but my guess is they'll be testing around 2025
@@lambo8961 supposed to come this spring and testing will take over a year,r211s is coming this fall.
Hope open gang ways never come.
@@christopherstory2136 Why? What’s wrong with them? Other transit systems get to have them, so why can’t NYC?
VERY BEAUTYFULL SUBWAY !!!
When r the R211 going to be in stock and it’s going to be obvious that there going to run on the A and C and I wish it at Least ran on the N and Q
they might be heading to the N because they want to put Communications Based Train Control (CBTC) from 57th street- 7th avenue to Astoria Ditmars Blvd. In order to do that, they need new techs
YAYYYYAYAYYAYAYAYAY thanks for telling me but they should also put CBCT on the whole line
@@ItsDuckToYou there not going and they cant because of 4th avenue and broadway using old techs although the D might be getting new techs soon
@@RealNtrain359 I know that but maybe sea beach line cause it’s just the N
@@ItsDuckToYou maybe, not sure
How many more days to the R211 comes into service? we are close though.
pretty sure the next step is simulated stop so i wouldn’t be surprised if we get them in June or July
@@michaelrailfan September at the the earliest
@@NYCTransitSunsets not in September. It's in July.
@@elizabethbobbio2601 PIGIII
@@michaelrailfan burn in testing is last,noise and vibration is next.
Great content! I've been subscribed for quite a while now.
How long does a trip take?
What is the top speed for a tow?
Thanks and much appreciated!
Depends on distance between point A & point B, and if you can take the most direct route. Top speed on straight tangent is 25mph, and 15mph on a curve.
@@ArgosySpecOps
Thank you!
We're getting closer.
have more been delivered yet? or are they waiting for the testing to complete
Wait for testing to be complete, then more units delivered.
yes, its nice to see new equipment but our stations needs a lot of work new trains and peeling paint and rust in many of the stations.
The two issues are unrelated.
He didn't say the issues were related. His observation is valid.
@@alanbaum3228 What do you mean by that?
He said the many of the stations appear dilapidated in contrast to the shiny, new trains. Both things are true as you can see from the video, particularly at Hoyt. It goes without saying that one has nothing to do with the other and the commenter didn't say they did.
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What? They're not being scrapped yet? The MTA loves to scrap things.
Obligatory "nice catch" for rare movement
What do they have to add to it?
Add some new components.
@@TheRailLeaguer what specifically though?
@@blackking7512 That I am not sure.
Wow, almost a year.. and the pilot set still isn’t final.. We’re not seeing the other cars 4070 etc until at least this fall or winter. And i highly doubt the planning of these entering service this summer, try next summer.
Or this fall.
poggers
"Component Upgrades" on just-delivered cars? Gimme a break. No wonder the MTA is vastly under water if not fiscally insolvent.
What are you talking about? It doesn’t cost a lot (if not anything) and perhaps testing the cars in real life shows that better components can work on these cars. That’s literally how testing on the real world subway system works. What works on the factory floor may not work in the actual situation.
Literally every other subway car order goes through this so why can’t NYC?
Why do you always have to complain about the littlest of things?
@@TheRailLeaguer agree with Cats01. Upgrades? Why is there discovery of the need for them when requirements and specifications are cleary laid out in the RFP and contract processes (which are very granular and detailed) ? Given the mature relationship of the MTA and Kawasaki, (especially in light of the R160) is there a need for this so late in the game - 1) it is not as if the physical plant of the subway has dramatically changed 2) can't blame it on CBTC either since those specs are statiic, in place and running on Alstom/Kawasaki 160s aready. 3) the physical dimensions of the cars are the same asv160/179. 4) the R211 is an evolutionary, not revolutionary product (as the NTTs were 20+ years ago at their inception). After 1800 so B division cars built by Kawasaki, they certainly should have a good enough expetiemce of what to anticipate what it takes to build them. If the MTA is at fault making changes unnecessarily during this process then shame on them for wasting taxpayer money, causing grief with pushing unreliable, deteriorating rolling stock to their limits. Typical lack of accountability or "best practices" here. Obviously thorough burn in testing is called for, but "updates belong" on the drawing board. There should be no suprises.
@@christopherstory2136 You joking, right? Plus upgrades are always expected for every single car order, no matter what.
Why burn expensive diesel when the R211 can go on there own power? Waist of our tax money right there
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@Joel Rosenburg Have you not read the description? They can't run on their own power because they are currently in a disassembled formation , so there just basically empty on movement hardware.
Because they are partially disassembled. Also this move didn’t cost taxpayers anything.
@@TheRailLeaguer So then if they were partially disassembled in a yard shop somewhere, why were they not reassembled in the same place. What was the point of taking them to another yard? If the place that disassembled them couldn't do the whole job why weren't they taken somewhere that could?
@@johnrauner2515 They we’re disassembled at the original location, and towed to Coney Island by diesel, as only Coney Island Yard has the overhaul parts for the whole fleet. The fleet will be reassembled at Coney Island Yard.
Nice