thanks for watching! 🫣 For anyone going to comment I didn’t know vaggie wasn’t previously a human and was heaven born, I just assumed she was oops! thanks to everyone telling me so kindly! And thanks to all the kind comments in general! even those who do have criticisms have been really nice thank you!!! ❤😢
Np. As an aspiring character designer this is huge inspo and I personally find you designs unique and your use of shape language vary impressive. I hope you find great heights in your creative journey!
I feel like redesigns could help point out flaws of characters like I forget that angel dust is a spider demon and I’ve seen redesigns that give them the spider butt thing and it makes his character a whole lot better, but I understand why that wasn’t a design option because animating his butt thing would be hard😭 Edit:To be clear idk how to animate so all animation is going to seem hard for me
Honesty Vivizie's characters are so hard to animate already (beelzebub, valentino, fizzarolli etc) I really don't think a spider butt would have made much difference 😭 Like I'l gladly trade angel's extra pair of arms for a spider butt and a pair of pedipalps
@@kayisconfused_I mean, to be fair, a lot of animators who worked on Hazbin/Helluva actually don't really mind, a lot of them actually said that they found Beelzebub really fun to animate when Episode 8 of Season 1 came out for Helluva, so I feel like if the animators are cool with it it's no big deal
My main gripes with Vivs designs is that, as an animator, they’re VERY animation unfriendly. Husk doesn’t need a billion alternating dots on his wings, the fact the reds of the main characters clothes are generally the same saturation as the background makes it difficult to distinguish, and all the intricate patterns are incredibly annoying to keep on model even with the use of pre-made rigs. Your Husk is by far my fave redesign of the bunch, not just for fixing things like the wings, but actually helping him stand out!! He *looks* like someone who died in the 70s, whilst still keeping that gambling/magician aspect in
I think this shows Viv’s strengths with character designing in general, but weak with considering everything else in the show.. not to say I hate them tho I LOVE THE SHOW SM but just that while HH main gang looks like eye candy for me with their unique designs, I’m also apprehensive and worried abt the animators who spent time working with every minute detail 😭
Not a day goes by that I don't feel sorry for Vivs animation team. Those designs are NIGHTMARISH. And thats both before and after she redesigned them. The redesigns have new problems now!
Your critiques are basically what Lavendertowne was saying, which is kinda funny, lol But yeah, the designs are amazing and beautiful, but look painful to animate
I think Alastor is still missing something. I like the colors and art but the problem I aways had with Alastor personally was that he was (according to live streams) half-creole and therefore he was supposedly,,,, half-black and that affected his backstory I wished that maybe in the hair that was represented more (especially in the show)
I’m almost 100% convinced Viv added the half-Creole part in due to backlash regarding him practicing voodoo despite being presumably white. Which is a shame, because the idea of him managing to work as a successful radio host during a time period that famously treated any minority (but particularly black people) pretty badly works as an interesting backstory!! But, like basically all of Vivs characters in the Hellaverse, basically nothing is actually done with this to flesh them out
Now that you mention it, I realized Nifty and Alastor kind of share their colors. Nifty has yellow and reddish pink, and Alastor has yellow and red, like they are more connected than Husk and Alastor, while both of then most likely have a contract with Alastor. Perhaps If Alastor had his iconic yellow teeth he'd connect more with Nifty in the redesign? 🤔
your comment made me realize that there's plenty of definitions of creole. i only knew of the spanish-speaking _criollo_ and just assumed _his_ creole meant kind of the same thing. huh! there's a whole wikipedia article about the multiple definitions of creole people worldwide.
@@steampunk-llama i disagree. i dont think vivzie would have written a solid "he was actually racist" storyline and made it out to be that he was ACTUALLY a bad person for being racist... like the show wouldntve have put enough emphasis on alastor being racist since hes a fan favorite + considering i dont think vivzie had that in mind when she made him a voodou user in the first place + ALSO considering how she has handled controversy in the past regarding this (such as blitzo saying the r slur in the pilot of helluva) saying "its hell, you expect bad people" yeah, except blitzo saying the r slur wasnt necessary as it didnt delve into any ableism with blitzo and instead was just a one off slur for no reason.
The whole lavendertowne thing doesn't really phase me, I can understand people being a bit upset that her video dropped in terms of quality and standards. However, the art community as well as internet fandoms in general are HORRIBLE. The Hazbin Hotel fandom is not immune to the toxic mob majority. Your designs are unique and have a ton of personality without being overwhelming. I'm not a Hazbin/Helluva/Vivzi fan by any means but her concepts are fun to use for practicing character design/redesigning.
I’m a HazbinHotel fan here that didn’t watch the video but I did see some people react to it and the things that found wrong and Lavender town’s video is her lack of research and coloring over fanart mistaking it for official art. (which I don’t even know how you do that.) When you redesign characters from a show, you have to research about the characters
@@sailorstar3148 See that I can understand getting some type of backlash for you know? But I also know that the internet can turn anything into a witch hunt regardless of severity. She shouldn't have dropped the ball as hard as I've heard it described though. (I also didn't get to see the video).
She made a separate video afterwards explaining that a lot had been happening in her life and she still wanted to put out a video, but wasn’t able to put it to the usual standards of her normal videos. Also, that fanart was being used on an official movie/show website where they’d cut off any artist tags, which led to the mix-up :)
@@sailorstar3148considering the show themselves ripped an artist off and put it on an official advertisement on a website, I can see how she mixed it up-also “lack of research” doesn’t quite matter. She’s viewing it from a character design perspective and the majority of the shows design is lacking for something trying to seem so professional.
Your Husk is so cool, i also agree that Husk shouldn't be thin, considering that he's canonically an alcoholic! Giving him a beer belly makes him soo much cooler imo :3 Really good video
Just because someone is alcoholic doesn't mean they have to be obese... And no hate but this is very close subject to me because by grandfather is one and he is skinny So I feel like weight does not matter in this subject
For Vaggie, it was confirmed she was supposed to be the protector of the hotel, so I think you should make an outfit for that kind of role, I don’t see her in that kind of outfit you have put her in would be great in combat! [Please note, this is feedback and an opinion I wanted to give back!]
The Vivziepop fandom is so frustrating, istfg I still can't believe people are bullying artists for imagining the characters differently. Just like I can't believe they hate on people who have, heaven forbids, the audacity to say the show isn't as good.
This honestly. I was a fringe fan from the beginning but I avoid it completely now because it's genuinely scary how overly attached some people are to an arguably mid show.
@kittyven Have you like actually watched the lavendertowne video because this is just wrong. Lavendertowne was never claiming to "Fix" the designs, she starts the video literally stating that it was for character design practice and she has no intentions of "fixing" them just redesigning them with her and others preferences in mind. She took her own critique and others that she's seen around and applied it to her designs. Were her designs the best? no. Did she in fact mess up when coloring over someone's art? yes. Those are all valid critiques that no one here is denying, but let's not continue to make up false information on lavendertowne, when the worse thing she did was be misinformed.
@@literaltrash5189she never said she was trying to “fix” them. She actually explicitly stated, multiple times, that she wasn’t and this was just her take on them - someone who watched the video
I REALLY like your Vaggie. The body type just *feels* more like how she looks in my head when I look back on the show than the actual design, if that makes sense?
Oh same 100% I’m all for bigger body types in characters. Hell most of my ocs don’t look anything like me body type and ethnicity wise. And obviously I’m not saying I’m better than Viv because of that I’m just saying it should be normalized more in all media so people can see themselves in the characters they like
Not that you asked, but bug is actually a *type* of insect, although it's often used to refer to all insects. Actual bugs have mouth parts that suvk, like flies, butterflies, ants, and bees! So, I 100% headcanon her to be an ant, because shes very smol compared to the rest of the cast. (Plus, how cute would she look with little ant antennas?)
love your art :)) !!!! honestly don't really care for hazbin bc i dont really like the creator but charlie is voiced by erika henningsen who was cady on mean girls broadway and i love her voice a lot so!! i think its cool that they got a lot of popular singers on there but yknow . i've seen things about the person behind the show and representation, etc etc... so yeah :-)
@@HiIAmSpirit1 honestly i'd rather you do your own research than asking me so you can come up with your own conclusion! i'm not here to start an argument or tell you how you should feel.
my biggest issue with lavendertownes designs is the lack of detail and quality, and they arent faithful enough to the characters in my opinion. definitely poorly researched but we all make mistakes and she took the video down and is working to make new designs so i really dont think she did anything wrong on that front btw your redesigns are some of the best ive seen, very well researched and detailed!!!! i especially enjoy your alastor!! and i think the minty green for angel dust is a nice touch
(og reply deleted?) yes i agree on lavendertownes designs. i think alastor and angels designs suffered the most but vaggie also looks really dull in comparison to her show design. im not sure why lavendertowne went with her choices because i didnt get to see the video before it was removed but they feel inauthentic!!!
@@Alexandraadftxr7052This is true, however.... Vivzie kinda sucky wacky with her writing, so a lot of important info is legitimately in the wiki and old works.
I love the idea you went for with Vaggie’s design but because that Vaggie was an exorcist she didn’t technically die in 2014 in the actual show. but it could still work as that being her cover story like the moth motif that she just ran with to be like “oh yeah totally I just loved moths when I was alive”
@@emmasaurt your completely valid for not knowing that. I just hope you don’t get hounded for it so I wanted to tell you in the nicest way possible lol
I personally like the idea of Vaggie looking more muscular, like a muscular chubby kinda vibe! Sense in the show she was an exterminator and exterminators are meant to fight so I feel like she would’ve trained very often hence why she was still muscular, but still a little bit chubby since chub is never a bad idea :3
@@alicethemad1613 what? no? Adam Choses his hot babes to fight for him, i never said they were ugly? It's clearly seen in the show what type of hot girls he wants O_o Why u bein weird bro, no need to take it seriously.
An artist is literally allowed to draw something that’s not ascetically pleasing. It’s simple as that. Absolutely everyone is allowed to have bad art days. Even if those bad art days happen to occur when they criticize a popular show. Drawing ugly art is not a crime.
I hate that hate is so common towards artists nowadays. In the case of Lavendertowne, I feel like people had been looking for a reason to crap all over her. Discrimination is so normalized, and it's running artists into the ground.
ppl find evry reason to hate on lavendertowne i think ppl think shes probably annoying or something so anytime she makes a very human mistake people just shit on her i always see it specifically w her like people are grasping on straws to hate on her even if what she did is normal and not rly a big deal loolll..
That’s style. That’s like saying somebody who draws only in the animal crossing style has same face syndrome it’s like yea but what else would they look like if not the style it’s in.
@@S0ap_Bvbbl3z Same face syndrom is when an artist has a constant habit of making their characters have the same facial details, either that'd be the same face structure, same eye shape, and/or same mouth shape, etc. I wouldn't necessarily say vivzie has it, but theres signs of it, especially in the male characters she draws, which outside of the face syndrom, often have the same outfit style (often wearing suits with bowties, tophats, etc)
@ding-dong_bing-bong there was no point of your comment. They are genuinely trying to know what same face syndrome was and you just came off as so rude??
I'm pretty certain alot of the hate also came from the fact that lavender is already heavily disliked in the artist community (I can not remember why) so my theory is that alot of people were just quick to jump on a hate bandwagon against someone they already disliked.
i think ppl just dont like her being such a huge figure in the art community while having chronic same face syndrome. also she did a percy jackson redesign and whitewashed grover a couple years back and she got flamed for that as well
as a person who really likes Hazbin Hotel, but doesn't really consider herself a "fan" (i just like consuming fan-made content lol)... YOUR REDESIGNS ARE FCKING AMAZING!!! imma be honest, i was kinda skepcitcal at first when i started watching this video, 'cause i already liked the original designs and none of the redesigns i saw really stuck with me, but your redesigns are just aaaaAAAAA i love them! the characters look absolutely fabulous in your style, and i loved the addition of the lil accent colors! i literaly don't have enough words to describe how much i enjoyed this video! (also, my favourite was defintely Alastor, i wanna boop that nose so badly lmao)
ok chunky husk is so valid bc i ALSO always see him that way too 😭 seeing the official arts here is so surprising bc i mentally dont picture him that way (i havent watched the show yet, ive just watched a LOT of videos about it 😭)
I've been a fan of lavender Towne since I was starting middle school (for reference I graduate high-school in a month) and I absolutely adore her artsyle. Sure the designs she did for the hazbin cast looked a little off (although I really like Charlie's design that she made) I feel most of what makes the designs off is the amount of detail. she absolutely did not deserve the harassment she got. Also absolutely love the redesigns! Charlie looks so cute! Edit: if you reading this are an artist struggling to draw different body types I would highly suggest studying the steven universe art style. It helped me a lot and they use a lot of nice shapes.
Pretty much every Vaggie redesign I have seen has changed her hair style, which always disappoints me because I LOVE her hair in the show!! Super glad you decided to keep it :D And I think it would be cool if your Vaggie design showed more muscule (she's an ex-soldier)! I appreciate trying to keep hair styles diverse, though I think Nifty's spikey hair actually strengths her design; it subverts the typical pristine image of a 1950s American housewife and conveys her ✨️ unhinged ✨️ nature. Also, I think Nifty is supposed to have a bug motif (specifically of pest bugs like roaches or fleas)!! No nitpicks of your Husk design
I actually like a lot of redesigns although I think you missed an opportunity when you said you wanted to switch off the body types. Vaggie is a warrior, I could totally see her being more muscular rather than chubby. I know it leans into the muscular lesbian trope, but I think it would actually work for her if she was like lean, but muscular.
I actually really like the redesigns, I first watched lavendertowne's redesign, so seeing another one, is really cool. I also really agree with you on the whole 'people don't like the redesign, automatically insult and constantly swarm it'
I love these character redesigns! In my own opinion on vaggie though, I personally think she’d be more muscular in a way, considering she did used to be those exterminator angles.
As a die hard hazbin hotel fan i personally hate what the « fandom » did to lavendertown, in my opinion : yes. She should have done more research (but personally i think we should always do research for a redesign) but she was extremely nice when talking about the designs, she wasn’t tearing them or the creator down she was being extremely respectful and everything. I also personally really like when people redesign the characters because i love to see what other people might have done differently but only when they are respectful which is why i love this video ❤️ I can tell that you did your research (more specifically when you said that Adam only has hot women in his exterminator army because that is something most people don’t know ^^) while still trying to stick with the original ideas. This video was amazing keep up the great work ❤️❤️
Honestly i love the charlie design you made!!! The horns remind me of the female imp horns from helluva boss Also something i feel like some people don't take into consideration is that.. the hazbin SHOW on amazon prime has reached a lot of new people to the fandom, but people expect everyone to know everything about the characters, expect you to look at the wiki, search in old Livestreams and Tumblr posts???? I feel like people should look at the show for what it is.. for an example, how are people supposed to know that charlie is supposed to look like a porcelain doll and a goat?? I mean, I'm not even sure if that's even true anymore??? Oh and i think one of the things people talking about is the uniform situation, i feel like it would be fun if the redesigns had a casual version and a hotel employee uniform version. That's just a little idea though
It's kinda funny because I'm brand new to the fandom(didn't watch until like a month after the full series released) and I learnt most of the lore within a week. I probably sound like a super fan who's been in the fandom for years with how much I know but in actuality I'm just autistic and hyperfixating lol.
i’m so glad you addressed all the hate that some redesigns get. i feel really bad for meppity and lavender town and i personally didn’t like their designs but no art is worth that much hate except ai art.
i am genuinely impressed with how mature your views and speaking is. you make such good points in your redesign videos that aren’t… backhanded or offensive and downright disrespectful towards the original designers. you ability to be just. yourself but not get into childish, nit-picky and almost egotistical arguments is such a breath of fresh air. i love how ‘neutral’ you are in a lot of your viewpoints. just amazing!!
I love chubby husk. Except, even though he died in the 70s he was an old man at that point so he probably wouldn't be up to date with that styling? Idk, other thatn that I love it
I love your Vaggie redesign SO MUCH. from a technical character design standpoint it almost characterizes her better than the show, in my personal opinion!
I love your Alastor design. The eyes being the same colours as Vox's design could also hint at their rivalry and past relationship/friendship. (I don't know how they were involved with each other, just that they know each other.)
YOUR ALASTOR AND HUSK ARE PERFECT OMG. I also completely agreed with your take on how redesigns for Hazbin aren’t the same as “fixing” smaller artist’s content. I absolutely love your art style and use of different colors. I didn’t look at the wiki so I had no idea Husk was from the 70’s, but your redesign just feels so right knowing that now.
I love these redesigns so much!! You didn't change the characters too much, you gave them some more diversity in terms of colours and shapes, and you stayed pretty true to the OG designs!! :D i don't watch Hazbin or Helluva Boss but I really love these lol (especially Angeldust)
i can't believe i watched the entirety of lavendertownes video and didnt look at the comments, i mean glad i did but like WHAT ?? her comments are usually so nice, i can't believe tiktok managed to get to her 😭😭
@justsomeone6759 Yeah it doesn't look THAT UGLY, but compare to her other works, it could have looked better. (She had already made another HH redesign video. I think you should check it out)
big fan of the colour variation. one of the hardest things abt watching the show (or clips of the show, more accurately) for me was trying to distinguish characters from the background and from each other when they're clumped together. all the motion and colour and excessive patterning gave me a horrific migraine. these are much kinder on the eyes!
18:33 I LOVE the blue honestly, it adds contrast that really pushes the design, I didn’t realize how much It needed it before this video. And it would be completely different if it was solid, with it just being the dots and the shading, I think that’s perfect
it’s relieving to see people redesigning hh characters out of the fandom without doing it out of spite because istg it’s so common i had my doubts when clicking the video but i’m glad this wasn’t the case. ALSO YOUR HUSK LOOKS SO GOOD?? i love that he has a more stylish look and the fact anyone can immediately tell when he died is a great detail imo :3
I feel the same, I don't know if you were talking about hh specifically or just any media but it seems so hard to find any constructive criticism/discussion about this show, it's either blind praise with no room for complaints no matter how justified or ruthless, unrelenting hate :/
ikr?? if people wanted to, they could look at things from a critical lens while not being an asshole about it but they're so lost either in their hate or love for the show and viv that they stay in their own echo chamber
fucking eating up your husk design. fucking chewing on the aviator sunglasses. it's so good I love it. husk having a bulkier build makes sense, he's an alcoholic. and your design makes him look more like he's a guy with a gambling problem getting chased by debt collectors from 70s Las Vegas.
these designs are sooo nice!! when i first saw the sneak peek of your angel design i wasn‘t sure how much i‘d like the mint green, but it‘s honestly such a good contrast. AND THE SPIDER PINCER MOON THINGIES??? adorable. also in awe of your charlie design, the hair fits her extremely well
These are AMAZING!! Some key things I'd like to point out are: -Alastor's pants are super cool and they definitely give radio wave vibes to me -Husk definitely looks like he came out of the 70s and I love that sm -Charlie kinda gives me Dolly Parton vibes, Idk why, but I'm here for it -Niffty's hair is probably my favorite part of the design, the colors make me think of fruit which fits her character backstory a lot
See, I don’t think the problem is that Vivienne is a bad character designer. She’s been at it for years now and has clearly learned when to restrain her urge to add little details that only make sense if you watch some livestream from 5 years ago (and she knows how to draw characters that aren’t just Tumblr sexymen wannabes). However, the problem is her use of color. Let’s use Vaggie as an example. Pilot Vaggie had too much white/light gray/pale rose on her and ends up becoming a mess of literal white noise; show Vaggie has too much red and black on her and ends up becoming lost in the red and black void that is the Vivzieverse’s version of hell. In trying to fix pilot Vaggie’s palette problem, Vivienne accidentally created a new problem. And here I am (even with my lack of knowledge on HH/HB outside of independent research I’ve done/what I’ve heard from my artist friends) thinking that she already had a perfect color scheme for Vaggie in the form of her Zoophobia colors. That navy blue and black just SING. Compare that to Charlie, who had an already good design in the pilot and a near-perfect design in the final show (I’d’ve given her a snake-looking braid and actual corneas, but still). In her case, cranking up the red actually worked because it unified her outfit and made her more vibrant- which is more in line with her personality, really. It’s so strange how one palette tweak made a good design great and yet it made a so-so design genuinely bad.
YES THATS IT!! i will say her outfits are very samey BUT the silhouettes are so unique and nice!!! its clear she knows a lot about understanding design, she just seemed to go wayyy too hard on the colors. If her coloring wasnt so aggressive, i think the designs would be a lot better received
Also, the Vees are her best designs IMO. Extremely strong theming, great silhouettes, and they look insanely perfect together. Would’ve preferred them as Season 1’s big bads over discount Lamech and Coldsteel the Angel (original character donut steel).
I think people forget that the main characters of hazbin are in the pride ring of hell. The pride ring is represented by red which is why most of their designs consist of red to correspond to which ring they're from. Seeing it can get repetitive but it seems to be like that for a reason
Their color scheme is red and black mostly because they’re from/manifested in the pride ring..which is red and black. If they went to any other ring they would stick out like a sore thumb. Like in heaven.
God poor lavendertown. i didnt care for her redesigns but no one deserves hate like that. ALSO I LOVE YOUR HUSK DESIGN LIKE YESS!!!! GIVE ME THAT 70's CLOTHES AND HUSKY BODY LETS GOO!!!!!!
Honestly it makes so much more sense for vaggie to be on the thicker side, she's a warrior and used to be, in Adam's words, "on the front lines" and "one of the best exorcists" and a skinny wasp waist doesn't really translate that, she should be more solid, which Is why I think your Design makes sense
My favorite redesign you did has to be Husk! Honestly, prior to this video, I had no idea that he was supposed to be from the 70s lol. I also really like your Alastor redesign. He reminds me a lot of 1930s cartoons with the way you stylized him. Though my only critiques would have to be the colors, specifically, his hair color. I feel like using a black/darker color for his hair would help the design feel more balanced. My last critique which is a very minor one would have to be that Alastor is half Creole, and seeing more of those features in his design would’ve been nice.
I really like your Alastor. I appreciate whenever artists give him more prominent deer features, because when I first saw him, I didn't know he was a deer. I actually didn't know it until someone told me. I knew he was supposed to me an animal of SOME kind, because of the ears, but I couldn't see his antlers very well so I didn't notice them at first. I also like the design in general for the black-white color scheme. It suits him.
i love that you made husk chubby, i too imagine him as being more chubby. he sounds chubbier in a way and his design just makes more sense as chubby and his personality
Fan here: I love how nice and empathetic this feels, its not claiming superiority, its just 'look I made a art' and I really like it (the video and the art)!!! Keep up the great work!!
Love your redesigns, especially Vaggie. Despite what a lot of fans say, I think making Vaggie thick is a good idea as not only does it add variety and make her contrast to Charlie, but also it can do some really good visual storytelling, showing how much Vaggie changed after going from heaven to hell. In heaven, when she was in Adam's army, she might have to follow a strict routine and lifestyle, especially in terms of diet, workout and fighting practice. But after coming to hell, she could finally just be herself, live her like like she wants to, and finally just breath some hellish air. Niffty is just adorable (as always, but more so) with the bug antennae ribbon, and I think that heart eye is just beautiful and clever as it could really make her more expensive (not that she isn't in her original design, just that this would make her a bit more expensive as the heart could change to other symbols based on her emotions, especially given how moody our favorite adorable maniac gremlin gal is). Loving your version of Husk as I personally think he looks more stoned here than in the show. I do think Charlie's eyes are better kept red or maybe made pink or orange instead of making them blue because blue just isn't very demonic enough (sure it fits her optimistic personality well, but so could the alternatives I provided, while still showing off her demonic side) for a character who is the princess of hell, or with atleast having them go red when she enters her angry demon form (thus I personally prefer her original show design over yours, though I do love the hairstyle you gave her as it kinda reminds me of Angel Dust's, sister, Molly), but otherwise, overall, great redesigns and thank you for making this video in a respectful and well-researched way and giving meaningful praise as well as critique to one of my favorite shows of all time.
I love your Vaggie and I would die for your Husk to be canon! You touched on some very important points. I often think people are too cruel towards redesigns bc in reality they're just that. Fan works. They don't take away from the source material. On the other hand, I really like that you kept the original design ideas and characteristics in mind here
What's really funny is that I also thought of Husk as being a bigger guy. I think Vivzie missed a golden opportunity to make him big because he inherently has those vibes :v Good lord, these are probably my favorite redesigns I've seen of these guys. You really breathed a new life into them. Alastor and Husk especially are lovely, the mint green looks surprisingly good on Angel Dust, and Charlie's accent of baby blue really highlights her her naive innocence. 10/10 I wish these were canon
i think a lot of people really need to learn the difference between not liking something/something just not being their thing and something being objectively bad, and also between insults vs criticisms lol, i feel like the hazbin situation from both the fans _and_ the haters is a good example of needing to know that difference. good designs btw !! also is it bad i wish lavendertownes video was still up so i could comment on it lol, i wouldnt even be an ass like i know a ton of people are being, i would just actually criticise the designs, because i can see what she was going for but you could definitely tell she wasnt very familiar with the characters, and it led to them looking uninspired/unfinished/unlike themselves. hope shes doing well in everything happening
when i heard abt what happened to lavender towne i was gobsmacked, but also sadly, not surprised. as someone whose followed vivzie since her timber and die young days; i have my gripes w the og designs ONLY bc they dont fit how the characters are described, so for me seeing redesigns is fun, tbh id love to do my own more, lets say "re-imagining" of the hazbin crew; bc i love the idea of the princess of hell reforming sinners to save their souls, but i wanna do it MY way EDIT: OH MY GOD I LOVE YOUR HUSK I LOVE WHEN PPL MAKE HIM CHUNKY and im biased now for personal reasons
i actually LOVE your alastor redesign. like as a long time alastor fan, i LOVE HIM. he looks really cool, and all of the red being toned down could do him some justice.
As a fan of the series, I wanted to let you know that I love your re-designs! The only critique that I have is maybe giving Husk more detailed bat-like wings instead and personally, I prefer the use of red instead of pink on Alastor. Just my opinion, but overall, I really did enjoy this a lot. Nice work! ❤
Love your take on the hazbin hotel cast, and I fell bad to the people who get bullied by mouth breathers just by having fun with redesigning their favorite characters in there favorite show. keep in mind that there's no such thing as perfection but it is what you see as perfection.
Even if I’m not a fan of Lavendertowne (I’m just not a fan of her content/online persona), she doesn’t deserve to be harassed. Yes, she screwed up, but that doesn’t justify sending hate to other creators all because they made a mistake.
I LOVE OMG! Niffty is definitely my favourite redesign! I prefer your idea of her having a bunny motif over a bug motif, probably because her original design didn’t show that at all lol. Plus it’s cuter
i'm not super into hazbin but i just have to say i LOVE your husk design i LOVE his silhouette and i somehow don't think i've EVER seen someone take the 70s aesthetic into account and you do it SWIMMINGLY. the pop of orange in the aviator glasses and the card suit patterned shirt are just the cherries on top IMPECCABLE. HUGE FAN.
I actually really like the idea of making Vaggie a bit bigger than she was in the show. I remember when I first watched the Pilot thinking that she looked a little wrong but I wasn't quite sure how. But of the redesigns I've seen, they bulk her up a bit and she definitely looks more right (at least in my headcanon). And great job on the redesigns! I think this is one of my favorite lineup of re-thinks yet (I will admit though, I've hardly seen half a dozen)! There's probably a couple things I wouldn't have done but I can't do better, so who am I to speak!
i love all your art and how u design characters in general but ohhh my god husk /POS !!!! my favorite one . its so good. therell never be a better one . everyone step aside . i esp like the orange bits as the accent color for him !!
omg i love how they turned out!!! especially i like how you added cool tone accents to charlie, angel and alastor! it feels very refreshing! my favorite is definitely alastor, black and white suits his character so much! and i think his original mostly red color pallet doesn't make mush sense for him??? but black and white or sepia colors(that i saw in other redesigns) ties down to old media forms really well!
Husk's re-design has to be my favourite, I think dressing him in a 70's style outfit was such a good idea and the bodytype you chose is interesting since he is supposed to be an alcholic, so being thin wouldn't really make sense. All the re-designs are nice, we can see the brainstorming behind it, but I do think Alastor's colour palette could have been different, with less saturated colours and mabe some brownish tones to be remisiscent of old photos
with everything happening with hazbin redesigns, I think some people have good intentions with redesigns, and some don't deserve that kind of hate. However, to people who think that they are ''fixing'' these characters just because its in their art style and thinking its favorable, that's a bit of a problem. I loved seeing you cover this topic and I agree with a lot of things you said!
I LOVE the diversity in size and color of your redesigns, especially Husk and Nifty. Your approach to Angel Dust is particularly wise, especially the earring pinchers - you coulda highlighted those dots as eyes above his main one, cuz I never new that either! But I think Alastor and Charlie's Vizziepop designs are near perfect, sorry babes lol.
To be honest, for my side of things, I feel like seeing someones reinterpretation of a character or two is pretty interesting when done without malace. If anyone went about redesigning my characters to show how they would visualise my group, I would find it really interesting and kinda magical when coming from a place of kindness and experimentation. Although, I get how terrifying the fans can be when they see something that gets under their skin, or they think is an attack. however, this also makes me wonder how the creators of a franchise feel about this too, so many questions lol
Honestly one of the best redesigns I’ve seen!! Your point on these characters being a window into her earlier art is a really good point. I really enjoyed your redesign for husk, personally I hated his wings, they look like hell to animate with those spots, and his overall design didn’t ever fit that gambler/card aesthetic - but you definitely got that typa lousy-vegas player vibe and I think it’s really successful!
Not gonna lie.. was enjoying the video then I saw Husk and I totally saw what you meant! Lmao LOVE IT! He’s a drinking gambler… it’s super fitting! You got my sub! 🤣
I absolutely LOVE your alastor design! One thing I'd change is the ears, I feel like they should be at the sides of the head and like... droopy? Idk. More like an actual deers ears. Actually in love with the color palette though omg
Your redesigns look pretty good! They fit the characters and the world really well!! I wasn't expecting to love the mint green on angeldust as much as I did, it actually works really well on him good job! Vaggie looks great, her and Charlie look adorable together. I also love your version of Alastor, it's probably the best redesign I've seen of him! Him being mostly black and white with pops of color makes so much sense and overall is just great ^ ^
i love all of these designs so much, they're amazing. (Husk is defiantly my favorite) also for the Charlie design i personally prefer the horns to the headband, they add a stronger sense of balance to her design and them sticking out to the side adds something interesting to her silhouette also also- if i may give a smol suggestion- it's be really cute to switch out the poodle on Nifty's skirt with a bunny. i know the poodle is iconic to those skirts but making it a bunny instead would make the bunny elements register more because there isn't a different animal breaking the theme
I think lavendertowne just didn’t seem tu care about the show and the characters and people instantly turned toxic :( Love your redesigns (green Angel Dust is really cool)
thanks for watching! 🫣
For anyone going to comment I didn’t know vaggie wasn’t previously a human and was heaven born, I just assumed she was oops! thanks to everyone telling me so kindly!
And thanks to all the kind comments in general! even those who do have criticisms have been really nice thank you!!! ❤😢
Np. As an aspiring character designer this is huge inspo and I personally find you designs unique and your use of shape language vary impressive. I hope you find great heights in your creative journey!
🫣 its YOU! the best gen z art ytbeR EVER
You did good, they are either really cute or cool and, feels like the designs nicely fit them.~
What’s the music at the end?
Does she mention it somewhere? Shazam doesn’t come up w anything.
Charlie looks so CUTE AAAA THEY ARE SO COOL
I feel like redesigns could help point out flaws of characters like I forget that angel dust is a spider demon and I’ve seen redesigns that give them the spider butt thing and it makes his character a whole lot better, but I understand why that wasn’t a design option because animating his butt thing would be hard😭 Edit:To be clear idk how to animate so all animation is going to seem hard for me
Honesty Vivizie's characters are so hard to animate already (beelzebub, valentino, fizzarolli etc) I really don't think a spider butt would have made much difference 😭 Like I'l gladly trade angel's extra pair of arms for a spider butt and a pair of pedipalps
Doesn't he have a spider butt in some scenes?
Animating it would be hard..? Have you seen the character designs 😭 /lh
hazbin designs are like genshin in a way, a lot of moving parts and details. Imagine a fully fledged animated Genshin show? It'd be torture lol
@@kayisconfused_I mean, to be fair, a lot of animators who worked on Hazbin/Helluva actually don't really mind, a lot of them actually said that they found Beelzebub really fun to animate when Episode 8 of Season 1 came out for Helluva, so I feel like if the animators are cool with it it's no big deal
My main gripes with Vivs designs is that, as an animator, they’re VERY animation unfriendly. Husk doesn’t need a billion alternating dots on his wings, the fact the reds of the main characters clothes are generally the same saturation as the background makes it difficult to distinguish, and all the intricate patterns are incredibly annoying to keep on model even with the use of pre-made rigs.
Your Husk is by far my fave redesign of the bunch, not just for fixing things like the wings, but actually helping him stand out!! He *looks* like someone who died in the 70s, whilst still keeping that gambling/magician aspect in
You're right about all that, I suffer from watching clips, so I didn't watch the whole show. I only look at reviews about it
I think this shows Viv’s strengths with character designing in general, but weak with considering everything else in the show.. not to say I hate them tho I LOVE THE SHOW SM but just that while HH main gang looks like eye candy for me with their unique designs, I’m also apprehensive and worried abt the animators who spent time working with every minute detail 😭
Not a day goes by that I don't feel sorry for Vivs animation team. Those designs are NIGHTMARISH. And thats both before and after she redesigned them. The redesigns have new problems now!
Your critiques are basically what Lavendertowne was saying, which is kinda funny, lol
But yeah, the designs are amazing and beautiful, but look painful to animate
The pants suck though.
I think Alastor is still missing something. I like the colors and art but the problem I aways had with Alastor personally was that he was (according to live streams) half-creole and therefore he was supposedly,,,, half-black and that affected his backstory
I wished that maybe in the hair that was represented more (especially in the show)
I kind of hate his hair in the show 😭 I think I would take pretty much any other hair style over his canon one tbh.
I’m almost 100% convinced Viv added the half-Creole part in due to backlash regarding him practicing voodoo despite being presumably white.
Which is a shame, because the idea of him managing to work as a successful radio host during a time period that famously treated any minority (but particularly black people) pretty badly works as an interesting backstory!! But, like basically all of Vivs characters in the Hellaverse, basically nothing is actually done with this to flesh them out
Now that you mention it, I realized Nifty and Alastor kind of share their colors.
Nifty has yellow and reddish pink, and Alastor has yellow and red, like they are more connected than Husk and Alastor, while both of then most likely have a contract with Alastor.
Perhaps If Alastor had his iconic yellow teeth he'd connect more with Nifty in the redesign? 🤔
your comment made me realize that there's plenty of definitions of creole. i only knew of the spanish-speaking _criollo_ and just assumed _his_ creole meant kind of the same thing. huh! there's a whole wikipedia article about the multiple definitions of creole people worldwide.
@@steampunk-llama i disagree. i dont think vivzie would have written a solid "he was actually racist" storyline and made it out to be that he was ACTUALLY a bad person for being racist...
like the show wouldntve have put enough emphasis on alastor being racist since hes a fan favorite + considering i dont think vivzie had that in mind when she made him a voodou user in the first place + ALSO considering how she has handled controversy in the past regarding this (such as blitzo saying the r slur in the pilot of helluva) saying "its hell, you expect bad people" yeah, except blitzo saying the r slur wasnt necessary as it didnt delve into any ableism with blitzo and instead was just a one off slur for no reason.
The whole lavendertowne thing doesn't really phase me, I can understand people being a bit upset that her video dropped in terms of quality and standards. However, the art community as well as internet fandoms in general are HORRIBLE. The Hazbin Hotel fandom is not immune to the toxic mob majority. Your designs are unique and have a ton of personality without being overwhelming. I'm not a Hazbin/Helluva/Vivzi fan by any means but her concepts are fun to use for practicing character design/redesigning.
I’m a HazbinHotel fan here that didn’t watch the video but I did see some people react to it and the things that found wrong and Lavender town’s video is her lack of research and coloring over fanart mistaking it for official art. (which I don’t even know how you do that.) When you redesign characters from a show, you have to research about the characters
@@sailorstar3148 See that I can understand getting some type of backlash for you know? But I also know that the internet can turn anything into a witch hunt regardless of severity. She shouldn't have dropped the ball as hard as I've heard it described though. (I also didn't get to see the video).
@@sailorstar3148 watch her new video on it she explains everything
She made a separate video afterwards explaining that a lot had been happening in her life and she still wanted to put out a video, but wasn’t able to put it to the usual standards of her normal videos. Also, that fanart was being used on an official movie/show website where they’d cut off any artist tags, which led to the mix-up :)
@@sailorstar3148considering the show themselves ripped an artist off and put it on an official advertisement on a website, I can see how she mixed it up-also “lack of research” doesn’t quite matter. She’s viewing it from a character design perspective and the majority of the shows design is lacking for something trying to seem so professional.
Your Husk is so cool, i also agree that Husk shouldn't be thin, considering that he's canonically an alcoholic! Giving him a beer belly makes him soo much cooler imo :3
Really good video
Charlie here reminded me of Julie Joyful
…I like skinny cats though they silly but fat cats are EVEN FUNNIER
@@noodlesandwich2945ooohh yeah I *knew* that character shape looked familiar from somewhere else 😂
Just because someone is alcoholic doesn't mean they have to be obese...
And no hate but this is very close subject to me because by grandfather is one and he is skinny
So I feel like weight does not matter in this subject
THAT MAN IS CHUNKY THERE IS SIMPLY NO OTHER DESIGN OPTION
i’m praying the comments are going to be civil 😭🙏🏽
should I bunker for 2 where we just watch the fallout of the comment section?
@@Odium_DOB yes
I want to come into the bunker as well@@Odium_DOB
@@Odium_DOBcan i comd
@@EvaBeginsWith_E lemme in the bunker too
For Vaggie, it was confirmed she was supposed to be the protector of the hotel, so I think you should make an outfit for that kind of role, I don’t see her in that kind of outfit you have put her in would be great in combat! [Please note, this is feedback and an opinion I wanted to give back!]
Tbh i agree with you, we could day it's a casual outfit
The Vivziepop fandom is so frustrating, istfg
I still can't believe people are bullying artists for imagining the characters differently. Just like I can't believe they hate on people who have, heaven forbids, the audacity to say the show isn't as good.
This honestly. I was a fringe fan from the beginning but I avoid it completely now because it's genuinely scary how overly attached some people are to an arguably mid show.
@kittyven Have you like actually watched the lavendertowne video because this is just wrong. Lavendertowne was never claiming to "Fix" the designs, she starts the video literally stating that it was for character design practice and she has no intentions of "fixing" them just redesigning them with her and others preferences in mind. She took her own critique and others that she's seen around and applied it to her designs. Were her designs the best? no. Did she in fact mess up when coloring over someone's art? yes. Those are all valid critiques that no one here is denying, but let's not continue to make up false information on lavendertowne, when the worse thing she did was be misinformed.
@@literaltrash5189she never said she was trying to “fix” them. She actually explicitly stated, multiple times, that she wasn’t and this was just her take on them
- someone who watched the video
@@AkoDraws thank you it was her typical redesign video from the sounds of it, She messed up but she didn't have bad intentions.
@@literaltrash5189 it’s all cool bro
"Some of you may not like my Husk." SHUSH HE'S PERFECT A+ REDESIGN
REAL I LOVE HIM HES SO CUTE
THE FIT IS FIRE
I REALLY like your Vaggie. The body type just *feels* more like how she looks in my head when I look back on the show than the actual design, if that makes sense?
Oh same 100% I’m all for bigger body types in characters. Hell most of my ocs don’t look anything like me body type and ethnicity wise. And obviously I’m not saying I’m better than Viv because of that I’m just saying it should be normalized more in all media so people can see themselves in the characters they like
Exactly! :D
Frfr!!
I've heard that nifty is based off a bug 😭
(They didn't give a specific type..... maybe stick bug)
Not that you asked, but bug is actually a *type* of insect, although it's often used to refer to all insects. Actual bugs have mouth parts that suvk, like flies, butterflies, ants, and bees!
So, I 100% headcanon her to be an ant, because shes very smol compared to the rest of the cast. (Plus, how cute would she look with little ant antennas?)
If I remember, she's based off a ladybug 😭😭 the spots??? Idk but people were saying this and even they didn't know
@@T_E_Gshes based off of multiple different bugs and B-movie aliens according to the wiki page
love your art :)) !!!! honestly don't really care for hazbin bc i dont really like the creator but charlie is voiced by erika henningsen who was cady on mean girls broadway and i love her voice a lot so!! i think its cool that they got a lot of popular singers on there but yknow . i've seen things about the person behind the show and representation, etc etc... so yeah :-)
What did the creator do? I don’t know much about the show or what’s behind it; I only watched it because my boyfriend told me to
@@HiIAmSpirit1 honestly i'd rather you do your own research than asking me so you can come up with your own conclusion! i'm not here to start an argument or tell you how you should feel.
@@urmeio then I will! Thank you!
OH she VAs Cady from mean girls? Cool!
I am also not a huge fan but I love Emily Artly and the Hazbin character designs!
my biggest issue with lavendertownes designs is the lack of detail and quality, and they arent faithful enough to the characters in my opinion. definitely poorly researched but we all make mistakes and she took the video down and is working to make new designs so i really dont think she did anything wrong on that front
btw your redesigns are some of the best ive seen, very well researched and detailed!!!! i especially enjoy your alastor!! and i think the minty green for angel dust is a nice touch
(og reply deleted?) yes i agree on lavendertownes designs. i think alastor and angels designs suffered the most but vaggie also looks really dull in comparison to her show design. im not sure why lavendertowne went with her choices because i didnt get to see the video before it was removed but they feel inauthentic!!!
Yeah, I love seeing redesigns ( especially from Emma artly and Loves art 23 ), but this one wasn't researched enough.
Edit: and Kaledya.
The thing is to understand a character you shouldn't really read through fan wikis and such. Watching the show should be enough.
@@redpanda6497LOVE'SART23 DESIGNS ON TOP
@@Alexandraadftxr7052This is true, however.... Vivzie kinda sucky wacky with her writing, so a lot of important info is legitimately in the wiki and old works.
honestly your husk design is FIREEEEEEEEE. you have opened my eyes
Ikr
same.
Same, beer belly 70s Husk is not something I knew I needed, but it's great!
REALL
I lovee th ehusk design it fits him so much. his vibe gives like mafia boss/trailer park man who will give you good advice but kick you bum! :))
I love the idea you went for with Vaggie’s design but because that Vaggie was an exorcist she didn’t technically die in 2014 in the actual show. but it could still work as that being her cover story like the moth motif that she just ran with to be like “oh yeah totally I just loved moths when I was alive”
ohhh are exorcists not people? i didn’t know that
@@emmasaurt to my knowledge they aren’t but I could be wrong because I don’t think it’s directly said, but to my knowledge they are heaven born
oh shoot welp 🫠
@@emmasaurt your completely valid for not knowing that. I just hope you don’t get hounded for it so I wanted to tell you in the nicest way possible lol
No thank you for telling me! lol it is what it is i knew i’d miss something’s 🤷🏻♀️🫶🏻
I personally like the idea of Vaggie looking more muscular, like a muscular chubby kinda vibe! Sense in the show she was an exterminator and exterminators are meant to fight so I feel like she would’ve trained very often hence why she was still muscular, but still a little bit chubby since chub is never a bad idea :3
Kinda like Willow from The Owl House
Hell yea (pun intended)
I think Vaggie was supposed to be hot cause adam choose hot angels to work for him (no hate, just letting yall know)
@@alicethemad1613no, they’re just saying- the reason Vaggie is thin is because Adam only hired ‘hot babes’ to work as him as extermantors
@@alicethemad1613 what? no? Adam Choses his hot babes to fight for him, i never said they were ugly? It's clearly seen in the show what type of hot girls he wants O_o
Why u bein weird bro, no need to take it seriously.
An artist is literally allowed to draw something that’s not ascetically pleasing. It’s simple as that. Absolutely everyone is allowed to have bad art days. Even if those bad art days happen to occur when they criticize a popular show. Drawing ugly art is not a crime.
I love intentionally kinda nasty and imperfect character designs ❤ they’re never looking exactly the same as eachother
Say it louder for the people in the back!!
I hate that hate is so common towards artists nowadays. In the case of Lavendertowne, I feel like people had been looking for a reason to crap all over her.
Discrimination is so normalized, and it's running artists into the ground.
ppl find evry reason to hate on lavendertowne i think ppl think shes probably annoying or something so anytime she makes a very human mistake people just shit on her i always see it specifically w her like people are grasping on straws to hate on her even if what she did is normal and not rly a big deal loolll..
I LOVE your Husk. I’m sorry you were scared about sharing it I think it works amazingly, especially with the fact he’s from the 70’s.
I think vizzie’s problem with her characters is the lack of variety she has very bad same face syndrome but with clothing,body shapes, and color
Honestly, I don’t understand the “same face syndrome” (don’t attack me pls)
@Ollieraccoon okay? Then go research it. I don't see the point of this comment.
That’s style. That’s like saying somebody who draws only in the animal crossing style has same face syndrome it’s like yea but what else would they look like if not the style it’s in.
@@S0ap_Bvbbl3z
Same face syndrom is when an artist has a constant habit of making their characters have the same facial details, either that'd be the same face structure, same eye shape, and/or same mouth shape, etc.
I wouldn't necessarily say vivzie has it, but theres signs of it, especially in the male characters she draws, which outside of the face syndrom, often have the same outfit style (often wearing suits with bowties, tophats, etc)
@ding-dong_bing-bong there was no point of your comment. They are genuinely trying to know what same face syndrome was and you just came off as so rude??
I'm pretty certain alot of the hate also came from the fact that lavender is already heavily disliked in the artist community (I can not remember why) so my theory is that alot of people were just quick to jump on a hate bandwagon against someone they already disliked.
WHY? I LOVE HER SO MUCH, LITERALLY WHAT DID SHE DO?
i think ppl just dont like her being such a huge figure in the art community while having chronic same face syndrome. also she did a percy jackson redesign and whitewashed grover a couple years back and she got flamed for that as well
yeah recently shes been getting flamed on tiktok (because OF COURSE she has who isnt getting flamed on tiktok atm…🙁)
Dang i didnt even know that😭
@@bigbeecityGrover is white in the books. It’s just that all the adaptations have casted people of color. She was going off the books description.
as a person who really likes Hazbin Hotel, but doesn't really consider herself a "fan" (i just like consuming fan-made content lol)...
YOUR REDESIGNS ARE FCKING AMAZING!!! imma be honest, i was kinda skepcitcal at first when i started watching this video, 'cause i already liked the original designs and none of the redesigns i saw really stuck with me, but your redesigns are just aaaaAAAAA i love them!
the characters look absolutely fabulous in your style, and i loved the addition of the lil accent colors! i literaly don't have enough words to describe how much i enjoyed this video!
(also, my favourite was defintely Alastor, i wanna boop that nose so badly lmao)
ok chunky husk is so valid bc i ALSO always see him that way too 😭 seeing the official arts here is so surprising bc i mentally dont picture him that way (i havent watched the show yet, ive just watched a LOT of videos about it 😭)
ur husky is so precious to me…!
Your redesigns are just MWAHH 🤧🤧 so glad you’re covering this, Lavendertowne and any other artist doesn’t deserve that backlash
I've been a fan of lavender Towne since I was starting middle school (for reference I graduate high-school in a month) and I absolutely adore her artsyle. Sure the designs she did for the hazbin cast looked a little off (although I really like Charlie's design that she made) I feel most of what makes the designs off is the amount of detail. she absolutely did not deserve the harassment she got.
Also absolutely love the redesigns! Charlie looks so cute!
Edit: if you reading this are an artist struggling to draw different body types I would highly suggest studying the steven universe art style. It helped me a lot and they use a lot of nice shapes.
She ended up making another video addressing the situation and redoing her redesigns. They're really cute!
Pretty much every Vaggie redesign I have seen has changed her hair style, which always disappoints me because I LOVE her hair in the show!! Super glad you decided to keep it :D And I think it would be cool if your Vaggie design showed more muscule (she's an ex-soldier)!
I appreciate trying to keep hair styles diverse, though I think Nifty's spikey hair actually strengths her design; it subverts the typical pristine image of a 1950s American housewife and conveys her ✨️ unhinged ✨️ nature. Also, I think Nifty is supposed to have a bug motif (specifically of pest bugs like roaches or fleas)!!
No nitpicks of your Husk design
I actually like a lot of redesigns although I think you missed an opportunity when you said you wanted to switch off the body types. Vaggie is a warrior, I could totally see her being more muscular rather than chubby. I know it leans into the muscular lesbian trope, but I think it would actually work for her if she was like lean, but muscular.
I love your husk design so much!!! The orange glasses and the pattern shirt looks like he'd be a really good bowler
I actually really like the redesigns, I first watched lavendertowne's redesign, so seeing another one, is really cool. I also really agree with you on the whole 'people don't like the redesign, automatically insult and constantly swarm it'
This is a compliment, but Husk looks like a used car salesman or a pawn shop owner and I'm here for it ALL THE WAY!!!!
the mlp designs for the transition slide, youre so real for that one
I love these character redesigns! In my own opinion on vaggie though, I personally think she’d be more muscular in a way, considering she did used to be those exterminator angles.
As a die hard hazbin hotel fan i personally hate what the « fandom » did to lavendertown, in my opinion : yes. She should have done more research (but personally i think we should always do research for a redesign) but she was extremely nice when talking about the designs, she wasn’t tearing them or the creator down she was being extremely respectful and everything. I also personally really like when people redesign the characters because i love to see what other people might have done differently but only when they are respectful which is why i love this video ❤️ I can tell that you did your research (more specifically when you said that Adam only has hot women in his exterminator army because that is something most people don’t know ^^) while still trying to stick with the original ideas. This video was amazing keep up the great work ❤️❤️
I ADORE your Husk so much, the stylized clothing works so well especially for that era, way better, love to see chunky husk resdesigns.
Honestly i love the charlie design you made!!! The horns remind me of the female imp horns from helluva boss
Also something i feel like some people don't take into consideration is that.. the hazbin SHOW on amazon prime has reached a lot of new people to the fandom, but people expect everyone to know everything about the characters, expect you to look at the wiki, search in old Livestreams and Tumblr posts???? I feel like people should look at the show for what it is.. for an example, how are people supposed to know that charlie is supposed to look like a porcelain doll and a goat?? I mean, I'm not even sure if that's even true anymore???
Oh and i think one of the things people talking about is the uniform situation, i feel like it would be fun if the redesigns had a casual version and a hotel employee uniform version. That's just a little idea though
It's kinda funny because I'm brand new to the fandom(didn't watch until like a month after the full series released) and I learnt most of the lore within a week. I probably sound like a super fan who's been in the fandom for years with how much I know but in actuality I'm just autistic and hyperfixating lol.
i’m so glad you addressed all the hate that some redesigns get. i feel really bad for meppity and lavender town and i personally didn’t like their designs but no art is worth that much hate except ai art.
Not everyone needs to know you support Palestine (I don’t mean to be rude btw)
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@@wind_chives ermmm okay??? 🇵🇸🤝🇮🇱
@@FaeFixion they don't have to give a fuck about what anyone else, It's their account let them do what they want.
@@PeenNeep-o6d Time to get flagged
i am genuinely impressed with how mature your views and speaking is. you make such good points in your redesign videos that aren’t… backhanded or offensive and downright disrespectful towards the original designers. you ability to be just. yourself but not get into childish, nit-picky and almost egotistical arguments is such a breath of fresh air. i love how ‘neutral’ you are in a lot of your viewpoints. just amazing!!
I LIKE BOTH THE OG AND YOUR REDESIGNS, ALSO FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ALSO THOUGHT HUSK WAS CHUBBIER THEN HE ACTUALLY WAS!!
I love chubby husk. Except, even though he died in the 70s he was an old man at that point so he probably wouldn't be up to date with that styling? Idk, other thatn that I love it
oh yeah that’s true, maybe he was a fashionable grandpa LMAO
@@emmasaurt xD imagining him as a hip old man in the 70s is pretty funny lol
I love your Vaggie redesign SO MUCH. from a technical character design standpoint it almost characterizes her better than the show, in my personal opinion!
I love your Alastor design. The eyes being the same colours as Vox's design could also hint at their rivalry and past relationship/friendship. (I don't know how they were involved with each other, just that they know each other.)
YOUR ALASTOR AND HUSK ARE PERFECT OMG. I also completely agreed with your take on how redesigns for Hazbin aren’t the same as “fixing” smaller artist’s content. I absolutely love your art style and use of different colors. I didn’t look at the wiki so I had no idea Husk was from the 70’s, but your redesign just feels so right knowing that now.
I love these redesigns so much!! You didn't change the characters too much, you gave them some more diversity in terms of colours and shapes, and you stayed pretty true to the OG designs!! :D i don't watch Hazbin or Helluva Boss but I really love these lol (especially Angeldust)
i can't believe i watched the entirety of lavendertownes video and didnt look at the comments, i mean glad i did but like WHAT ?? her comments are usually so nice, i can't believe tiktok managed to get to her 😭😭
I love Lavendertowne sm but her HH redesigns were not pleasing to look at 😭😭
@justsomeone6759 Yeah it doesn't look THAT UGLY, but compare to her other works, it could have looked better. (She had already made another HH redesign video. I think you should check it out)
big fan of the colour variation. one of the hardest things abt watching the show (or clips of the show, more accurately) for me was trying to distinguish characters from the background and from each other when they're clumped together. all the motion and colour and excessive patterning gave me a horrific migraine. these are much kinder on the eyes!
18:33 I LOVE the blue honestly, it adds contrast that really pushes the design, I didn’t realize how much It needed it before this video. And it would be completely different if it was solid, with it just being the dots and the shading, I think that’s perfect
it’s relieving to see people redesigning hh characters out of the fandom without doing it out of spite because istg it’s so common i had my doubts when clicking the video but i’m glad this wasn’t the case. ALSO YOUR HUSK LOOKS SO GOOD?? i love that he has a more stylish look and the fact anyone can immediately tell when he died is a great detail imo :3
I feel the same, I don't know if you were talking about hh specifically or just any media but it seems so hard to find any constructive criticism/discussion about this show, it's either blind praise with no room for complaints no matter how justified or ruthless, unrelenting hate :/
ikr?? if people wanted to, they could look at things from a critical lens while not being an asshole about it but they're so lost either in their hate or love for the show and viv that they stay in their own echo chamber
fucking eating up your husk design. fucking chewing on the aviator sunglasses. it's so good I love it. husk having a bulkier build makes sense, he's an alcoholic. and your design makes him look more like he's a guy with a gambling problem getting chased by debt collectors from 70s Las Vegas.
your designs (as far as i'm in the video XD) (charlie) are very cute! I loved the ponytail, i'm obssesed
these designs are sooo nice!! when i first saw the sneak peek of your angel design i wasn‘t sure how much i‘d like the mint green, but it‘s honestly such a good contrast. AND THE SPIDER PINCER MOON THINGIES??? adorable. also in awe of your charlie design, the hair fits her extremely well
These are AMAZING!!
Some key things I'd like to point out are:
-Alastor's pants are super cool and they definitely give radio wave vibes to me
-Husk definitely looks like he came out of the 70s and I love that sm
-Charlie kinda gives me Dolly Parton vibes, Idk why, but I'm here for it
-Niffty's hair is probably my favorite part of the design, the colors make me think of fruit which fits her character backstory a lot
See, I don’t think the problem is that Vivienne is a bad character designer. She’s been at it for years now and has clearly learned when to restrain her urge to add little details that only make sense if you watch some livestream from 5 years ago (and she knows how to draw characters that aren’t just Tumblr sexymen wannabes). However, the problem is her use of color. Let’s use Vaggie as an example.
Pilot Vaggie had too much white/light gray/pale rose on her and ends up becoming a mess of literal white noise; show Vaggie has too much red and black on her and ends up becoming lost in the red and black void that is the Vivzieverse’s version of hell. In trying to fix pilot Vaggie’s palette problem, Vivienne accidentally created a new problem. And here I am (even with my lack of knowledge on HH/HB outside of independent research I’ve done/what I’ve heard from my artist friends) thinking that she already had a perfect color scheme for Vaggie in the form of her Zoophobia colors. That navy blue and black just SING.
Compare that to Charlie, who had an already good design in the pilot and a near-perfect design in the final show (I’d’ve given her a snake-looking braid and actual corneas, but still). In her case, cranking up the red actually worked because it unified her outfit and made her more vibrant- which is more in line with her personality, really. It’s so strange how one palette tweak made a good design great and yet it made a so-so design genuinely bad.
YES THATS IT!! i will say her outfits are very samey BUT the silhouettes are so unique and nice!!! its clear she knows a lot about understanding design, she just seemed to go wayyy too hard on the colors. If her coloring wasnt so aggressive, i think the designs would be a lot better received
Also, the Vees are her best designs IMO. Extremely strong theming, great silhouettes, and they look insanely perfect together. Would’ve preferred them as Season 1’s big bads over discount Lamech and Coldsteel the Angel (original character donut steel).
I think people forget that the main characters of hazbin are in the pride ring of hell. The pride ring is represented by red which is why most of their designs consist of red to correspond to which ring they're from. Seeing it can get repetitive but it seems to be like that for a reason
Their color scheme is red and black mostly because they’re from/manifested in the pride ring..which is red and black. If they went to any other ring they would stick out like a sore thumb. Like in heaven.
@@kittyvenTy for also getting that but I feel like we only know because we’re into the lore
God poor lavendertown. i didnt care for her redesigns but no one deserves hate like that. ALSO I LOVE YOUR HUSK DESIGN LIKE YESS!!!! GIVE ME THAT 70's CLOTHES AND HUSKY BODY LETS GOO!!!!!!
Honestly it makes so much more sense for vaggie to be on the thicker side, she's a warrior and used to be, in Adam's words, "on the front lines" and "one of the best exorcists" and a skinny wasp waist doesn't really translate that, she should be more solid, which Is why I think your Design makes sense
My favorite redesign you did has to be Husk! Honestly, prior to this video, I had no idea that he was supposed to be from the 70s lol. I also really like your Alastor redesign. He reminds me a lot of 1930s cartoons with the way you stylized him. Though my only critiques would have to be the colors, specifically, his hair color. I feel like using a black/darker color for his hair would help the design feel more balanced. My last critique which is a very minor one would have to be that Alastor is half Creole, and seeing more of those features in his design would’ve been nice.
I really like your Alastor. I appreciate whenever artists give him more prominent deer features, because when I first saw him, I didn't know he was a deer. I actually didn't know it until someone told me. I knew he was supposed to me an animal of SOME kind, because of the ears, but I couldn't see his antlers very well so I didn't notice them at first. I also like the design in general for the black-white color scheme. It suits him.
i like to pretend that the reason vaggie got chubbier is because she became happier in life:>
i love that you made husk chubby, i too imagine him as being more chubby. he sounds chubbier in a way and his design just makes more sense as chubby and his personality
Fan here:
I love how nice and empathetic this feels, its not claiming superiority, its just 'look I made a art' and I really like it (the video and the art)!!!
Keep up the great work!!
Love your redesigns, especially Vaggie. Despite what a lot of fans say, I think making Vaggie thick is a good idea as not only does it add variety and make her contrast to Charlie, but also it can do some really good visual storytelling, showing how much Vaggie changed after going from heaven to hell. In heaven, when she was in Adam's army, she might have to follow a strict routine and lifestyle, especially in terms of diet, workout and fighting practice. But after coming to hell, she could finally just be herself, live her like like she wants to, and finally just breath some hellish air. Niffty is just adorable (as always, but more so) with the bug antennae ribbon, and I think that heart eye is just beautiful and clever as it could really make her more expensive (not that she isn't in her original design, just that this would make her a bit more expensive as the heart could change to other symbols based on her emotions, especially given how moody our favorite adorable maniac gremlin gal is). Loving your version of Husk as I personally think he looks more stoned here than in the show. I do think Charlie's eyes are better kept red or maybe made pink or orange instead of making them blue because blue just isn't very demonic enough (sure it fits her optimistic personality well, but so could the alternatives I provided, while still showing off her demonic side) for a character who is the princess of hell, or with atleast having them go red when she enters her angry demon form (thus I personally prefer her original show design over yours, though I do love the hairstyle you gave her as it kinda reminds me of Angel Dust's, sister, Molly), but otherwise, overall, great redesigns and thank you for making this video in a respectful and well-researched way and giving meaningful praise as well as critique to one of my favorite shows of all time.
I love your Vaggie and I would die for your Husk to be canon! You touched on some very important points. I often think people are too cruel towards redesigns bc in reality they're just that. Fan works. They don't take away from the source material. On the other hand, I really like that you kept the original design ideas and characteristics in mind here
The husk redesign looks SUPER 70’s! Really appreciate that, and the minty green with angel is gorgeous 💕
can I just say I absolutely adore your Husker redesign! It feels like it fits him so nicely!
What's really funny is that I also thought of Husk as being a bigger guy. I think Vivzie missed a golden opportunity to make him big because he inherently has those vibes :v
Good lord, these are probably my favorite redesigns I've seen of these guys. You really breathed a new life into them. Alastor and Husk especially are lovely, the mint green looks surprisingly good on Angel Dust, and Charlie's accent of baby blue really highlights her her naive innocence. 10/10 I wish these were canon
i think a lot of people really need to learn the difference between not liking something/something just not being their thing and something being objectively bad, and also between insults vs criticisms lol, i feel like the hazbin situation from both the fans _and_ the haters is a good example of needing to know that difference. good designs btw !!
also is it bad i wish lavendertownes video was still up so i could comment on it lol, i wouldnt even be an ass like i know a ton of people are being, i would just actually criticise the designs, because i can see what she was going for but you could definitely tell she wasnt very familiar with the characters, and it led to them looking uninspired/unfinished/unlike themselves. hope shes doing well in everything happening
when i heard abt what happened to lavender towne i was gobsmacked, but also sadly, not surprised. as someone whose followed vivzie since her timber and die young days; i have my gripes w the og designs ONLY bc they dont fit how the characters are described, so for me seeing redesigns is fun, tbh id love to do my own more, lets say "re-imagining" of the hazbin crew; bc i love the idea of the princess of hell reforming sinners to save their souls, but i wanna do it MY way
EDIT: OH MY GOD I LOVE YOUR HUSK I LOVE WHEN PPL MAKE HIM CHUNKY and im biased now for personal reasons
Your husk looks like such an uncle he looks so cute :,,) definitely one of my favorites
i actually LOVE your alastor redesign. like as a long time alastor fan, i LOVE HIM. he looks really cool, and all of the red being toned down could do him some justice.
Your Husk redesign is literally perfect, I love it, its so him
I am IN LOVE with all these redesigns. And alastors redesign is just.. MMMM. Chefs kiss.
As a fan of the series, I wanted to let you know that I love your re-designs! The only critique that I have is maybe giving Husk more detailed bat-like wings instead and personally, I prefer the use of red instead of pink on Alastor. Just my opinion, but overall, I really did enjoy this a lot. Nice work! ❤
Love your take on the hazbin hotel cast, and I fell bad to the people who get bullied by mouth breathers just by having fun with redesigning their favorite characters in there favorite show. keep in mind that there's no such thing as perfection but it is what you see as perfection.
Even if I’m not a fan of Lavendertowne (I’m just not a fan of her content/online persona), she doesn’t deserve to be harassed. Yes, she screwed up, but that doesn’t justify sending hate to other creators all because they made a mistake.
I LOVE OMG! Niffty is definitely my favourite redesign! I prefer your idea of her having a bunny motif over a bug motif, probably because her original design didn’t show that at all lol. Plus it’s cuter
i'm not super into hazbin but i just have to say i LOVE your husk design i LOVE his silhouette and i somehow don't think i've EVER seen someone take the 70s aesthetic into account and you do it SWIMMINGLY. the pop of orange in the aviator glasses and the card suit patterned shirt are just the cherries on top IMPECCABLE. HUGE FAN.
I actually really like the idea of making Vaggie a bit bigger than she was in the show. I remember when I first watched the Pilot thinking that she looked a little wrong but I wasn't quite sure how. But of the redesigns I've seen, they bulk her up a bit and she definitely looks more right (at least in my headcanon). And great job on the redesigns! I think this is one of my favorite lineup of re-thinks yet (I will admit though, I've hardly seen half a dozen)! There's probably a couple things I wouldn't have done but I can't do better, so who am I to speak!
i love all your art and how u design characters in general but ohhh my god husk /POS !!!! my favorite one . its so good. therell never be a better one . everyone step aside . i esp like the orange bits as the accent color for him !!
omg i love how they turned out!!! especially i like how you added cool tone accents to charlie, angel and alastor! it feels very refreshing!
my favorite is definitely alastor, black and white suits his character so much! and i think his original mostly red color pallet doesn't make mush sense for him??? but black and white or sepia colors(that i saw in other redesigns) ties down to old media forms really well!
Your Husk redesign is actually my favorite, the shapes and the 70's vibe are fantastic
Husk's re-design has to be my favourite, I think dressing him in a 70's style outfit was such a good idea and the bodytype you chose is interesting since he is supposed to be an alcholic, so being thin wouldn't really make sense. All the re-designs are nice, we can see the brainstorming behind it, but I do think Alastor's colour palette could have been different, with less saturated colours and mabe some brownish tones to be remisiscent of old photos
The updated video Lavendertowne made is amazing. She also explained a lot more things!
I absolutely loved this video!! 💗 your designs are amazing 😋
with everything happening with hazbin redesigns, I think some people have good intentions with redesigns, and some don't deserve that kind of hate.
However, to people who think that they are ''fixing'' these characters just because its in their art style and thinking its favorable, that's a bit of a problem.
I loved seeing you cover this topic and I agree with a lot of things you said!
I LOVE the diversity in size and color of your redesigns, especially Husk and Nifty. Your approach to Angel Dust is particularly wise, especially the earring pinchers - you coulda highlighted those dots as eyes above his main one, cuz I never new that either! But I think Alastor and Charlie's Vizziepop designs are near perfect, sorry babes lol.
I've got to say, I absolutely love your husk design. Your so right, he should be chubbier. Your redesign has got to be one of the best I've seen!
Oml why do I love these designes so much :0 especially husk gurl u slayed doing husk
Love how you gave genuine feedback, but also let yourself have a bit of fun with it! I gotta say, Husker is definitely my favorite!!!! 🫶
im love the designs so much and i love how angel kind of looks like jack from nightmare before xmas
To be honest, for my side of things, I feel like seeing someones reinterpretation of a character or two is pretty interesting when done without malace. If anyone went about redesigning my characters to show how they would visualise my group, I would find it really interesting and kinda magical when coming from a place of kindness and experimentation. Although, I get how terrifying the fans can be when they see something that gets under their skin, or they think is an attack. however, this also makes me wonder how the creators of a franchise feel about this too, so many questions lol
Honestly one of the best redesigns I’ve seen!!
Your point on these characters being a window into her earlier art is a really good point.
I really enjoyed your redesign for husk, personally I hated his wings, they look like hell to animate with those spots, and his overall design didn’t ever fit that gambler/card aesthetic - but you definitely got that typa lousy-vegas player vibe and I think it’s really successful!
Not gonna lie.. was enjoying the video then I saw Husk and I totally saw what you meant! Lmao LOVE IT! He’s a drinking gambler… it’s super fitting! You got my sub! 🤣
I absolutely LOVE your alastor design! One thing I'd change is the ears, I feel like they should be at the sides of the head and like... droopy? Idk. More like an actual deers ears. Actually in love with the color palette though omg
3:43 I actually adore Meppity’s second set of redesigns. Her takes on Charlie and Alastor are leagues better than what the final show gave us
Your redesigns look pretty good! They fit the characters and the world really well!!
I wasn't expecting to love the mint green on angeldust as much as I did, it actually works really well on him good job! Vaggie looks great, her and Charlie look adorable together.
I also love your version of Alastor, it's probably the best redesign I've seen of him! Him being mostly black and white with pops of color makes so much sense and overall is just great ^ ^
Love your vids and art! It's just so gorgeous, and I wish I could draw as well! :D
i love all of these designs so much, they're amazing. (Husk is defiantly my favorite)
also for the Charlie design i personally prefer the horns to the headband, they add a stronger sense of balance to her design and them sticking out to the side adds something interesting to her silhouette
also also- if i may give a smol suggestion- it's be really cute to switch out the poodle on Nifty's skirt with a bunny. i know the poodle is iconic to those skirts but making it a bunny instead would make the bunny elements register more because there isn't a different animal breaking the theme
I think lavendertowne just didn’t seem tu care about the show and the characters and people instantly turned toxic :(
Love your redesigns (green Angel Dust is really cool)
Lavendertowne did a new video and her designs look super adorable with the proper knowledge
@@Angrycheesepizza I’ve seen it and I love it😊
DUUUDE YOU DID THEM SO MUCH JUSTICE??? LIKE THESE DESIGNS ARE SO CUTE AND NOT AT ALL TOO MUCH OR TOO BASIC AAAAHHH