If you're talking about an army composition it's "only" those units meantioned. The "high templer + colossi" can only be meant as an army composition for it to fit into the context if you actually read what was said before. The 1v1 is over by now.
I'm pretty sure i've seen this about a hundred times, But if it says 'MarineKing' or 'Holy shit what the fuck marine micro' I have to watch it, again.. and again.. and again... :)
- Terrans late game army can demolish the others if played properly - If you can't deny creep spread with your helions early game you're the one who's dumb - Losing vs a-moving protoss players? Got problems positioning those air units with 9 range? Gotta be such a pain having your tier 1/1,5 being able to demolish tier 3 armies with a proper concave
True that ! Ever try delaying your opponents upgrades for so long that you have 3/3 and him 0/0. LOL. To say the least, no micro is required anymore :)
Although i agree with most of what you are saying, I find it pretty hilarious that after Idra made comments about how marineking is an overated player, Idra actually beats him in IPL...specially since Idra has not been playing well for so long. d:
I didn't agree to your comment. I said I've seen it in bronze league replays = implying it's not a viable composition in any higher up gameplay = it's not worth meantioning in a discussion about balance which was what this discussion was about. If someone would "high templer" and colossi in anything above bronze the opponent would go "wth is this guy thinking" and laugh his ass off while he crushes that 4k gas army. So yes, stay small.
Oh they are very important, but decision making is probably JUST as important as your macro or micrl, You can micro your heart out and you can have amazing macro, but if you're picking the wrong engagements and your making Zerglings to counter Collossus or something of that narture, even with perfect control and macro, you'll only get so far. MKP tends to do really silly builds that make no sense and he attacks at Random times withoutthink, like he'll attack 20 seconds before 2-2 or something.
Yeah because their upgrades scale differently. Colossus gains more from upgrades then Marines do. I meant Zerglings vs Marines, same upgrades don`t do shit.
- lawl. "can" if both have the ultimative late game army terran is the worst. - Marineking vs DRG; last mlg ... how will you kill creap against 6 queens? - mass archons + colossi oh wait. im dumb. but why you answered? U MAD?
Idra is Bad/Overrated. You are talking about perhaps the best terran player the sc2 community has ever seen.. Bordering on the same skill level as MVp and MMA.
- Terran late game army is the cheapest (look it up) so even if they trade their army vs half of the toss army it's cost efficient - Gonna ignore the fact that you refered to ONE game/series when talking about balance and if he got 6 queens out in the middle of the map it's 900 minerals spent on spreading creep and still not hard to kill them with only marines, if he overwhelm you with zerglings when he spent 900 minerals on creep you sure as hell don't know how to macro
Idra is bad at making fair judgements of players like when he said HuK was a flash in the pan and only winning cos he's a protoss player. Don't even get me started on saying that MarineKing is a poor player, any player that can take games off the likes of MC, MMA, MVP and Nestea and who literally causes lesser Korean pro's to shit themselves in fear when they see him on the ladder is nowhere near bad... he's a fkn boss.
lol yeah he says gg to people that he acknowledges and deserved the win, not some random cheese noob on the na ladder cheesing everygame and tries to get a rage out of him so they can send it to husky to brag.
Being one of the best in the world is one thing, but he could be THE best in the world if he just took some time to actually LEARN how to play better. By learn I mean make better decision that are standard for someone of his caliber. Overall I do think he's overrated, most of his popularity comes from his comeback games which come as a natural result for his reluctance to GG after he's basically lost.
And mass archons + colossi? Probably the most gas heavy army ever which is so easy to muster up as the most gas dependant race in the game. Stopping it with ghosts, marauders and vikings, dat trade... You don't even know basic army compositions and talk about late game armies -.- Stay small.
Sure let's end this, you got zero clue about this game since you think ONLY using HTs and colossi as your end game army is viable lol... Obviously having both of them in the late game is working but you seem to think skipping tier one/1,5 units is working. Enjoy your stay in bronze league "oh poor kid" :S
i dunno...you could be telling the truth or you could be bluffin, but tbh i dont really mind playing you, its all fun and games to me. but regardless me beating you or you beating me doesnt change the fact that u will get stomped by idra....
yeah i dont know you, but i can deduce that the odds of you being in the top 0.001% of the sc2 population are quite unlikely. so this is what im offering, give me ur sc2 name and we'll find out, if your right, ill make an apology and take back what i said. if im right we have nothing else to talk about.
5:48
that is the best part, "I am very happy"
How can you not love MKP
"three ultralisks can't take this out" haha good times
3 ultralisks on 1-1 without chitinous against 2-2 and 4 times the army supply should never take that out ;D
gotta say. I love your transitions.
Marines are already OP, but damn MarineKing makes them look like gods! so gosu!
haha 4:18 made me laugh, in the player cam haypro looks like some skinny nerd and mkp looks like some god sitting on his throne
a miracle of our time.
Funny you say that considering iDra has stated many many times how he thinks MKP sucks ... yet MKP wins tourneys not just on ladder ...
If you're talking about an army composition it's "only" those units meantioned. The "high templer + colossi" can only be meant as an army composition for it to fit into the context if you actually read what was said before. The 1v1 is over by now.
GG MKP, HOPE SEE YOU BACK AGAIN VERY FAST
I wish I played sc2 during the MKP days :D
Marineking and taeja
I'm pretty sure i've seen this about a hundred times, But if it says 'MarineKing' or 'Holy shit what the fuck marine micro' I have to watch it, again.. and again.. and again... :)
damn marines are so good.
and this is why I like tier 1 games.
this video should be titled "How MarineKing won the MLG Winter Arena"
- Terrans late game army can demolish the others if played properly
- If you can't deny creep spread with your helions early game you're the one who's dumb
- Losing vs a-moving protoss players? Got problems positioning those air units with 9 range? Gotta be such a pain having your tier 1/1,5 being able to demolish tier 3 armies with a proper concave
IDRA TYPES GG WTF THAT IMPRESSES ME
He knows that MKP would tell his fangirls (and boys) to rip off his head, so he did the smart thing
Marineking op
i just lost it when mkp made 31 barracks
True that ! Ever try delaying your opponents upgrades for so long that you have 3/3 and him 0/0. LOL. To say the least, no micro is required anymore :)
did you find that replay? or his commentary ? i really wanna see it too!
Never said he was bad.
He says thats to everyone
awesome
Correction: Idra says gg only after losing close macro games.
Although i agree with most of what you are saying, I find it pretty hilarious that after Idra made comments about how marineking is an overated player, Idra actually beats him in IPL...specially since Idra has not been playing well for so long. d:
last video gg from idra ?
they're amazing when the other guy doesn't have upgrades, though.
Terran is the Weekest race at the moment. If you dont agree you are probably not in Master / GM.
lol I'm very happy. what a boss
I didn't agree to your comment. I said I've seen it in bronze league replays = implying it's not a viable composition in any higher up gameplay = it's not worth meantioning in a discussion about balance which was what this discussion was about. If someone would "high templer" and colossi in anything above bronze the opponent would go "wth is this guy thinking" and laugh his ass off while he crushes that 4k gas army. So yes, stay small.
yhis guy is god himself playing Starcraft 2 in his sparetime
Well, you agreed to my argument and followed it up with a Stay small? ... Stay small.
this is true
idra says gg to ppl who are good
That's funny, that's what I would say about Idra himself.
never saw high templer + colossi ? oh poor kid
Why is HD available when the overall video quality is crap? -____-
3/3 marines is the same as 0/0 marines, if they have the same upgrades.
Well if you never saw Storm + Colossi in a high end game ... Lets end the talk
"I am very happy"... ^_^ lol
they don't call him marineking for nothing
Oh they are very important, but decision making is probably JUST as important as your macro or micrl, You can micro your heart out and you can have amazing macro, but if you're picking the wrong engagements and your making Zerglings to counter Collossus or something of that narture, even with perfect control and macro, you'll only get so far. MKP tends to do really silly builds that make no sense and he attacks at Random times withoutthink, like he'll attack 20 seconds before 2-2 or something.
What song is this?
idra said gg
Yeah because their upgrades scale differently. Colossus gains more from upgrades then Marines do. I meant Zerglings vs Marines, same upgrades don`t do shit.
해.병.왕
can you send me a link privat msg with the download link?:) i cannot find it -_-' wich was his opponent?
- lawl. "can" if both have the ultimative late game army terran is the worst.
- Marineking vs DRG; last mlg ... how will you kill creap against 6 queens?
- mass archons + colossi
oh wait. im dumb. but why you answered? U MAD?
You don't think MKP is good? He is probably one of the best, if not the best, Terran at this time.
1080p, yeah right
terran op
how would you know , do you know my rank on ladder? i think not sir
MKP !!!!!
3/3 Marines beat all.
wait... did idra gg?
Idra is Bad/Overrated. You are talking about perhaps the best terran player the sc2 community has ever seen.. Bordering on the same skill level as MVp and MMA.
Holy shit
Never sad "only". Lets go for a 1v1 ?
baws
5:33
I don't believe it!!! Idra gg'd!
5:30 IdrA camera :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
3:00 how the hell did he break that wall... lol
You could have stopped at "Idra is bad" and you still would have got voted up.
Terra is not OP, the Koreans make Terra Op with there control :)
- Terran late game army is the cheapest (look it up) so even if they trade their army vs half of the toss army it's cost efficient
- Gonna ignore the fact that you refered to ONE game/series when talking about balance and if he got 6 queens out in the middle of the map it's 900 minerals spent on spreading creep and still not hard to kill them with only marines, if he overwhelm you with zerglings when he spent 900 minerals on creep you sure as hell don't know how to macro
yeah, 3/3 marines beat 0/0 mutalisks in even numbers! mind blowing.
Idra has already said that Marinking is bad/over rated.
But he doesn't think MarineKing is good, he said "He just does random shit, and it works" or something along those lines.
Damn! You're so intellegent! Lets play a 1v1.
MKP vs BoxeR... What?
Just did.
you dont know me so you dont know if i better than idra
this*
Idra is bad at making fair judgements of players like when he said HuK was a flash in the pan and only winning cos he's a protoss player. Don't even get me started on saying that MarineKing is a poor player, any player that can take games off the likes of MC, MMA, MVP and Nestea and who literally causes lesser Korean pro's to shit themselves in fear when they see him on the ladder is nowhere near bad... he's a fkn boss.
lol yeah he says gg to people that he acknowledges and deserved the win, not some random cheese noob on the na ladder cheesing everygame and tries to get a rage out of him so they can send it to husky to brag.
He hates HuK's play. He doesnt think minigun is good, and same for MC. I generally think he respects terrans more than toss.
no idk who u r
nop.
Give me your sc2 ign, lets 1v1 GL..
Oh I've seen it, from bronze replays... Stay small.
MarineKing really only wins because of his control and his macro, as far as strategy and overall decision making, he's really not that good.
Haha you clearly got nothing tangible to say = it's over.
Being one of the best in the world is one thing, but he could be THE best in the world if he just took some time to actually LEARN how to play better. By learn I mean make better decision that are standard for someone of his caliber. Overall I do think he's overrated, most of his popularity comes from his comeback games which come as a natural result for his reluctance to GG after he's basically lost.
stoled? :)
you stoled this video
And mass archons + colossi? Probably the most gas heavy army ever which is so easy to muster up as the most gas dependant race in the game. Stopping it with ghosts, marauders and vikings, dat trade...
You don't even know basic army compositions and talk about late game armies -.- Stay small.
nnerdchills
Sure let's end this, you got zero clue about this game since you think ONLY using HTs and colossi as your end game army is viable lol... Obviously having both of them in the late game is working but you seem to think skipping tier one/1,5 units is working. Enjoy your stay in bronze league "oh poor kid" :S
Over cuz you're bad? Ok. np
No but i'll tell you this im definitely higher rank than you noob
MK is a fucking god.
i dunno...you could be telling the truth or you could be bluffin, but tbh i dont really mind playing you, its all fun and games to me.
but regardless me beating you or you beating me doesnt change the fact that u will get stomped by idra....
yeah i dont know you, but i can deduce that the odds of you being in the top 0.001% of the sc2 population are quite unlikely.
so this is what im offering, give me ur sc2 name and we'll find out, if your right, ill make an apology and take back what i said. if im right we have nothing else to talk about.
idra is better than u =P