Shamus........having met you and knowing first hand what a stud you are and how generous you are with your time, I want to say thanks again for sharing info that is awesome!!!! You rock brother!!!!
I'm in Victoria Australia, very similar climate to when I lived in California except the rain here is spread out over the year better. I like how you kept saying if they can do it there then you could do it in Phoenix. It's funny because I say the same thing when I see what you're growing. Great video thanks.
I'm going to see how they grow up near Newcastle in a slightly more subtropical environment, I have them growing in pots at the moment but I'm looking forward to getting my patch of dirt then planting them in the ground. The climate those mangoes on that Californian farm would be growing in would be a little bit more like Kalgoorlie-Boulders in Western Australia where it's a bit more semi arid but somewhere like Los Angeles would be a bit more like Perth because it's dry & closer to the coast,I know Melbournes climate is heading more to the likes of the Shasta county because I froze my butt off in October when I got off the plane from Newcastle in mid spring 2005 (October),it was 26°C in Newcastle & 13°C in Melbourne. They do fair better further north like in the Bowen basin in Queensland,Kununurra in Western Australia & Darwin in the Northern Territory where the climate is tropical savanna !
I love how you can see the new green growth as it breaches out of the white “surround” treated trees. Good way of monitoring new growth 👍 thanks for sharing shamus
Very cool share Shamus!! I was waiting for you to pick a fruit and cut open for us to see. Even though the white stuff is organic, I dunno if I'd ever eat off the tree out there. It's still great to see though. Thanks again, always enjoy your videos. Thumbs up and Take care!! :)
Very interesting video , how they deal with weed between trees and between lines, how many tons produced , organic fertlizer , is that means they only use compost .? what is the distance between trees and between lines, how old are the trees and average production per tree. For Kiett mangos.
@@georgecarlin2656 Do you even know what Communism is? How the hell is an HOA Communist? It could be more demonstrably capitalist than anything else, by having one group demand money from other residents, with little to no feedback or ability of the residents to make decisions in the HOA.
@@georgecarlin2656 You have no idea what Communism is if you think it just demands "Uniformity", particularly since the sole objective of that "Uniformity" in HOAs is to keep property values high in order to make money. Or did you forget that part about HOAs?
@@Wasserkaktus I know what communism is because I lived in the ex-USSR and whatever explanation the HOA is giving is somewhat irrelevant because I for one don't like property that looks like the exact clone of thousands of others plus HOA might be lying, as Rand Paul said - whatever the issue is it's not about this issue, it's about something else.
Thank you for all you do and your love for trees and plants!! So helpful when starting a small orchard in Tucson, if it grows in Phoenix we follow same protocol even though we about 7 degrees cooler, but after 110F it's all same. Growing 3 mango trees in pots 2 years now so far so good using your advice except I use distilled water + mango food (our water is strong chlorine and salt and makes the leaves turn brown from burn, doesn't do that with distilled).
Interesting too? They top those tree's..not going for size and excess foliage. Here in the bay area excess heat is never a problem. Soils are fine. I still like to give them fertilizer around every big flush..helps that and darkens the green on the tree. Growth here being much slower than tropics or hot summer climates. I never thought Mangoes could ever grow here..now they so and so do Papaya even if I can't vouch for flavor,the plants look ornamental enough. Urban warming and global combined have changed the face of landscapes here in much less than one lifetime.
I thought it was dust from trucks driving by! I live in the Florida keys it gets pretty hot late July and August i might try surround on my keitts! Thanks for the info!
Nice video from my hometown! We get 115+ for at least 3 months , it's hot out here. Always thought orchards with that surround product were chemical products nice to know they're organic. Just wondering what exactly it is composed of nd how the common folk can grab some? We need more trees out here our air quality is grade F and the heat is really is excessive. Thanks for this video nd a thought maybe you can group your videos by area nd soil type. Gracias compa.
Really cool, I did wonder where the asian markets would get their mangoes so late in the season. I always thought they got them from Central or South America since our winters equal their summers. I would love to run by there sometimes, are they open for tours?
they sell those Keitts in SoCal. It goes 6$ per mango. Mangos from Mexico and South America come into US year around. They should play around with mangos from North Africa and Israel not Florida which are more adapted to desert conditions
My Juicy Peach I got from you last fall has been flushing out new growth all summer under an 80% shade cloth and two years of sulfur resulting in a 7.33 pH.
I was shocked SHOCKED!...To find my Ataulfo Mangoes fruit here near the San Francisco bay, burned in a 106f August day. I thought it would take at least 110+ and very low humidity..not the 30% or so it was that day.
Importantly for US consumers & seeds, they're not irradiated. Had a few last year - delicious, but put seedlings outside & got busy at wrong place & time. Not this coming Fall though *crosses fingers*. Always assumed the similar spray coatings used on various fruit crops in Tulare County, CA [You should really check it out, as the variety in a hot/cold climate is wide-ranging] decades ago were insecticides, but never asked. In the NV Desert now.
What a find Oct 12, 2021. I discovered Calif Mangos in San Diego. Expensive, good size and I was able to find some that has softened and ready to eat today. Once the Mexican mangos dried up around mid Sept. , just like clockwork those awful Brazilian mangos showed up. I refuse to buy those and after that come the ones from Costa Rico. They suck as well. Peru imports around March are better. Once the Mexican mangos appear( early summer) I will buy in quantity if they have softened up. I am the MANGO KING.
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx i've been trying to grow one from seed the past 2 summers and they all sicken and die but I have 2 that just germinated and are growing fine. Everything seems to be growing well this year!
@@thehuntfortruth I tried a few and failed, not tending to acidity requirements might have doomed them, may try again more informed. Done well with avos but did my homework on them and they mean a lot more to me, may eventually have them almost yr round over a dozen varieties.
Hi Shamus, I have a small Falsa Asiatica orchard in my home backyard north of Los Angeles. Would you be interested in doing video? It’s fruiting season now and perfect timing if you’ve like proceed.
@@sulemanalakeel3886 The nursery is just south of baseline on 19th avenue. You can see it on the west side of 19th. I went there for the first time just a few weeks ago. I have been watching his videos for a while now.
Some Mango cultivation regions in India reach similar high temperatures though don't freeze in the winter. They also grow one of the best tasting varieties in the Indian market. Some organic/no outside input farmers use Coconut, Palmyra or other shade trees in the boundary to block some heat and the rest of the farm usually benefits from the micro climate phenomenon. Personally I would not want any of those white powders on my trees or fruits. Anyways, thanks for sharing this interesting videos.
How is this for an idea- take a mature date orchard, grow mango and several other subtropicals as an understory. Can plant several thousand acres throughout the low desert without meeting demand. Will likely increase demand with fresh and local products.
Phoenix and Coachella --33 degrees latitude?Good latitude in the states, considering its a tropical tree.But maybe closer to the ocean for optimal growth.But growing in the desert is rebellion so have fun.
i would say within 2-20 miles is ideal from the california coast. Being any closer to the coast would be too cool in my opinion as it barely reaches high 70s in mid summer and its foggy in the morning.
Is Surround like the Bordeaux mixture, what we use for blaxk pepper here in india. But purpose is different. Used as a fungicide.. it's 1 kg copper sulfate in 50 litres of water
We need one single 100X100 mile agrovoltaic food forest with alternating rows of tall solar panels and trees, a 100 mile long line of grid-scale lithium ion batteries on one edge, and adjacent to that the beginnings of an international scale ultra high voltage long distance direct current power transmission network. And then we also need Tesla FSD (hard AI autonomous mobility software) ported to robots (humanoid and otherwise) and the next gen of farming equipment, to defeat the pruning and harvesting bottleneck that formerly prevented the arbitrarily large, commercial or even national-sized scaling up of the permaculture food forest method of agriculture. Etc.
What’s the name and address of the orchard as I would love to visit them? I’m growing Ataulfo and Nang Klang Wun here in Palm Desert, Ca and they grow very well. One more question, where can one buy the Surround product.
It would have been cooler to see them without that stuff on them. They look like a volcano had erupted nearby and rained down ash on them. They’ve got to do what they’ve got to do I suppose. What they look like doesn’t matter.
Shamus........having met you and knowing first hand what a stud you are and how generous you are with your time, I want to say thanks again for sharing info that is awesome!!!! You rock brother!!!!
Your so knowledgeable and informative. Thank you for another great video Shamus
I'm in Victoria Australia, very similar climate to when I lived in California except the rain here is spread out over the year better. I like how you kept saying if they can do it there then you could do it in Phoenix. It's funny because I say the same thing when I see what you're growing. Great video thanks.
I'm going to see how they grow up near Newcastle in a slightly more subtropical environment, I have them growing in pots at the moment but I'm looking forward to getting my patch of dirt then planting them in the ground.
The climate those mangoes on that Californian farm would be growing in would be a little bit more like Kalgoorlie-Boulders in Western Australia where it's a bit more semi arid but somewhere like Los Angeles would be a bit more like Perth because it's dry & closer to the coast,I know Melbournes climate is heading more to the likes of the Shasta county because I froze my butt off in October when I got off the plane from Newcastle in mid spring 2005 (October),it was 26°C in Newcastle & 13°C in Melbourne.
They do fair better further north like in the Bowen basin in Queensland,Kununurra in Western Australia & Darwin in the Northern Territory where the climate is tropical savanna !
Can Mangoes be grown in Melbourne?
I love how you can see the new green growth as it breaches out of the white “surround” treated trees. Good way of monitoring new growth 👍 thanks for sharing shamus
Very cool share Shamus!! I was waiting for you to pick a fruit and cut open for us to see. Even though the white stuff is organic, I dunno if I'd ever eat off the tree out there. It's still great to see though. Thanks again, always enjoy your videos. Thumbs up and Take care!! :)
Very interesting video , how they deal with weed between trees and between lines, how many tons produced , organic fertlizer , is that means they only use compost .? what is the distance between trees and between lines, how old are the trees and average production per tree. For Kiett mangos.
That is amazing!!! We need more fruit farms and less new HOA communities.
Yeah, HOA reminds me of communism.
@@georgecarlin2656 Do you even know what Communism is? How the hell is an HOA Communist? It could be more demonstrably capitalist than anything else, by having one group demand money from other residents, with little to no feedback or ability of the residents to make decisions in the HOA.
@@Wasserkaktus HOA demands uniformity or else, just like communism.
@@georgecarlin2656 You have no idea what Communism is if you think it just demands "Uniformity", particularly since the sole objective of that "Uniformity" in HOAs is to keep property values high in order to make money.
Or did you forget that part about HOAs?
@@Wasserkaktus I know what communism is because I lived in the ex-USSR and whatever explanation the HOA is giving is somewhat irrelevant because I for one don't like property that looks like the exact clone of thousands of others plus HOA might be lying, as Rand Paul said - whatever the issue is it's not about this issue, it's about something else.
I live in the Coachella Valley here. that mangos grow here. Thank you Shamus. Is fascinating . so I will plant mangos.
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How much cool degrees on winter on cochella?
Which farm is this ?
Thank you for all you do and your love for trees and plants!! So helpful when starting a small orchard in Tucson, if it grows in Phoenix we follow same protocol even though we about 7 degrees cooler, but after 110F it's all same. Growing 3 mango trees in pots 2 years now so far so good using your advice except I use distilled water + mango food (our water is strong chlorine and salt and makes the leaves turn brown from burn, doesn't do that with distilled).
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Interesting too? They top those tree's..not going for size and excess foliage. Here in the bay area excess heat is never a problem. Soils are fine. I still like to give them fertilizer around every big flush..helps that and darkens the green on the tree. Growth here being much slower than tropics or hot summer climates.
I never thought Mangoes could ever grow here..now they so and so do Papaya even if I can't vouch for flavor,the plants look ornamental enough. Urban warming and global combined have changed the face of landscapes here in much less than one lifetime.
What is the tree spacing? How many feet between each tree?
I thought it was dust from trucks driving by! I live in the Florida keys it gets pretty hot late July and August i might try surround on my keitts! Thanks for the info!
Nice video from my hometown! We get 115+ for at least 3 months , it's hot out here. Always thought orchards with that surround product were chemical products nice to know they're organic. Just wondering what exactly it is composed of nd how the common folk can grab some? We need more trees out here our air quality is grade F and the heat is really is excessive. Thanks for this video nd a thought maybe you can group your videos by area nd soil type. Gracias compa.
Makes me wonder what an overstory and mulch would do to the production of this farm?
Thoughts????
Plant under mature dates, cover with mulch. Could never meet demand for fresh local mangoes, pitataya, lychee, etc.
Probably wouldn't need surround with how much healthier they'd be.
Imagine if they used John and Bob's smart soil solution
Great information. Enjoyed watching video.
Great job! Can I come to see your Orchard? Do you have mango picking season to people?
Love This video. Well narrated.
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This guy's explaining skills is great.
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do youship mangoes to los angeles?
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Where could I purchase surround for my avocados in kern county California.
Could you please help with that thanks.
Wow 💖👍 America is beautifull country 💕💖👍👍🌹💖
Putting the trees under hops?
VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO ....WHATS THE DISTANCE BITWEEN .PLANT TO PLANT..AND ROW TO ROW WILL YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW ...THANKS..
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What is the distance between trees and rows.?
Is Wongs Farms or another operation in the Coachela Valley?. I wanted to see them..thx..
That product is 95% Kaolin clay..interesting that it is also an organic insect deterrent. I may try that on the mangoes I am starting out in Mesa
Kaolin clay is also one of the primary ingredients in mineral-based sunscreen (in addition to zinc).
What is the white stuff present on leaves
Very Nice Sir👍👌☺
Really cool, I did wonder where the asian markets would get their mangoes so late in the season. I always thought they got them from Central or South America since our winters equal their summers. I would love to run by there sometimes, are they open for tours?
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whats the name of the powder they put on the mango trees again? and where can i buy it?
I assume that's the Wongs mango farm in Mecca CA ?
Northshore?
Brooklyn NY tbh
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Imagine they planted fruit trees on the streets instead of random trees in SoCal. 🤯 SoCal would be an orchard
Hispanic usually do lol, when you see a fruit tree on the city sidewalk, it’s almost a guarantee a hispanic family lives there
they sell those Keitts in SoCal. It goes 6$ per mango. Mangos from Mexico and South America come into US year around. They should play around with mangos from North Africa and Israel not Florida which are more adapted to desert conditions
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My Juicy Peach I got from you last fall has been flushing out new growth all summer under an 80% shade cloth and two years of sulfur resulting in a 7.33 pH.
Where you can get surand if you have any knowledge please let me know thanks
This some quality information man. I'm always learning some innovative strategies
I was shocked SHOCKED!...To find my Ataulfo Mangoes fruit here near the San Francisco bay, burned in a 106f August day. I thought it would take at least 110+ and very low humidity..not the 30% or so it was that day.
nice video. what is the commercial name for this product?
Surround WP
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Miracle alright, but an expensive one. Extreme weather (particilsrly 20 degree winter) may create big problem.
Importantly for US consumers & seeds, they're not irradiated.
Had a few last year - delicious, but put seedlings outside & got busy at wrong place & time. Not this coming Fall though *crosses fingers*.
Always assumed the similar spray coatings used on various fruit crops in Tulare County, CA [You should really check it out, as the variety in a hot/cold climate is wide-ranging] decades ago were insecticides, but never asked. In the NV Desert now.
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What a find Oct 12, 2021. I discovered Calif Mangos in San Diego. Expensive, good size and I was able to find some that has softened and ready to eat today. Once the Mexican mangos dried up around mid Sept. , just like clockwork those awful Brazilian mangos showed up. I refuse to buy those and after that come the ones from Costa Rico. They suck as well. Peru imports around March are better. Once the Mexican mangos appear( early summer) I will buy in quantity if they have softened up. I am the MANGO KING.
finally a video of someone growing mangos in California, trying to do the same
Gary Gragg channel has them growing in soucal,bay area and central valley vids.
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx yup, I've come across his videos. I just put my fruit punch in a raised mound and it's growing nicely
@@zengrow3098 Right on!..i got Manila and Champagne/Ataulfo in bloom also. Champagne I grew from seed.
@@StanTheObserver-lo8rx i've been trying to grow one from seed the past 2 summers and they all sicken and die but I have 2 that just germinated and are growing fine. Everything seems to be growing well this year!
ataulfo that is, they fruit in 3 years I hear
name of the bread of the mango tree??
Keitt mango
Shamus...what kind of sand should I use to try and grow a mango tree in a pot and can I buy horticulture sand in department store ?
Any sand will do it's ok you will get very large harvest
Nice! Great video.
Hi Shamus! Is there any temperature minimum during mango flowering session ?
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Keeps tempting me to try mangos in Chico, CA. :D
Dooo it!
@@thehuntfortruth I tried a few and failed, not tending to acidity requirements might have doomed them, may try again more informed. Done well with avos but did my homework on them and they mean a lot more to me, may eventually have them almost yr round over a dozen varieties.
@@Mrbfgray avocado 🥑 boss level!
@@thehuntfortruth A food U can almost live off of and store on the tree for months. Citrus also a no brainer here and have them almost yr round too.
@@Mrbfgray wait until you try mamey sapote. Avocados will take a back seat
Hi Shamus, I have a small Falsa Asiatica orchard in my home backyard north of Los Angeles. Would you be interested in doing video? It’s fruiting season now and perfect timing if you’ve like proceed.
Thx for great information
Hi
Dear Shamus O’Leary
I chatted with you once. I’ve been watching you videos for a number of years.
I used to live in Arizona but I’m Saudi
And now in Tempe. I’d like to see you place and have a little chat if you don’t mind . You’re my mentor
What’s your address
@@sulemanalakeel3886 The nursery is just south of baseline on 19th avenue. You can see it on the west side of 19th. I went there for the first time just a few weeks ago. I have been watching his videos for a while now.
The Fat Theist Thanks
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Some Mango cultivation regions in India reach similar high temperatures though don't freeze in the winter. They also grow one of the best tasting varieties in the Indian market. Some organic/no outside input farmers use Coconut, Palmyra or other shade trees in the boundary to block some heat and the rest of the farm usually benefits from the micro climate phenomenon. Personally I would not want any of those white powders on my trees or fruits. Anyways, thanks for sharing this interesting videos.
It is just Kaolin clay, nothing else.....completely non-toxic.
The sun in the desert is very strong though.
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@@imtiazahmed1020 y u don’t plant palm trees to protect mangos from cold weather and also sunburn.
i would think the white stuff would interfere with photosynthesis
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It do. But it also provides "shade" which some plants need too
How is this for an idea- take a mature date orchard, grow mango and several other subtropicals as an understory. Can plant several thousand acres throughout the low desert without meeting demand. Will likely increase demand with fresh and local products.
How would passion fruit go out there? And Phoenix?
Passion fruit do really well I'm phx az
The grow amazing here in Phoenix
@@brandasar7913 the big yellow green variety. Or the purple one?
englishcoach777 sorry for late reply. I see the purple one everywhere..
I've grown passion fruit for years in So Cal. Grows like a weed, except way better.
My mango rots at the top similar to what you have shown,always though must be fungi.Now I know it is sunburn👍🏻
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what difference between Azomite And Surround ( Kaolin clay)?
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Phoenix and Coachella --33 degrees latitude?Good latitude in the states, considering its a tropical tree.But maybe closer to the ocean for optimal growth.But growing in the desert is rebellion so have fun.
i would say within 2-20 miles is ideal from the california coast. Being any closer to the coast would be too cool in my opinion as it barely reaches high 70s in mid summer and its foggy in the morning.
Is Surround like the Bordeaux mixture, what we use for blaxk pepper here in india. But purpose is different. Used as a fungicide.. it's 1 kg copper sulfate in 50 litres of water
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No this is different material
With high respect for the cultivator, in a harsh environment for mango!
We need one single 100X100 mile agrovoltaic food forest with alternating rows of tall solar panels and trees, a 100 mile long line of grid-scale lithium ion batteries on one edge, and adjacent to that the beginnings of an international scale ultra high voltage long distance direct current power transmission network. And then we also need Tesla FSD (hard AI autonomous mobility software) ported to robots (humanoid and otherwise) and the next gen of farming equipment, to defeat the pruning and harvesting bottleneck that formerly prevented the arbitrarily large, commercial or even national-sized scaling up of the permaculture food forest method of agriculture. Etc.
What’s the name and address of the orchard as I would love to visit them? I’m growing Ataulfo and Nang Klang Wun here in Palm Desert, Ca and they grow very well. One more question, where can one buy the Surround product.
price this property
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They sell “surround” online now.
They should prune them to get more yield.
Good morning 😊
great content!
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I love it..
Very interesting
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It would have been cooler to see them without that stuff on them. They look
like a volcano had erupted nearby and rained down ash on them. They’ve got to do what they’ve got to do I suppose. What they look like doesn’t matter.
Wow
Keitt mangos suck. Wish they grew more varieties
At first I was wondering if they are in the business of selling powdery mildew or mangos but now I know it’s IV organics on steroid. Lol
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