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Sources:
Baylis, Thomas. How Israel Was Won: A Concise History of the Arab-Israeli Conflict (Lanham: Lexington Books, 1999).
Bowen, Jeremy. Six Days: How the 1967 War Shaped the Middle East (United Kingdom: Pocket Books, 2003).
Klieman, Aaron S. Foundations of British policy in the Arab world: the Cairo Conference of 1921 (United Kingdom: Johns Hopkins Press, 1970).
Laqueur, Walter. Rubin, Barry. The Israel-Arab Reader (New York: Penguin Books, 2008).
Shoup, Kate. The Israel-Palestine Border Conflict (United States: Cavendish Square Publishing, 2018).
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Griffin, can you make a video about the opium wars?
this video made me bust
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Like video
"i sure hope that the comment section in this video is respectful and peaceful"
I was thinking the exact same thing
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SAMEEE 😂😂😭😭@@Muffin.Creations
Israel should never be recreated after 70.
Glad we share the same brain
The number of people actually being civil in the comments should be your sign that you did an absolutely fantastic job.
I know right?
Yeeeaaahhh "civil"
As soon as I saw this video I had to check the comments
There are some points that are not correct because the European government doesn't want people to know about it because it is Most likely to be war crimes or Crimes against humanity so there Respected countries to keep Support Israel in there war crimes in Gaza against Civilians
0:10 In his book "The Population of Palestine", american demographer Justin McCarthy details the evolution of the population in the area from 1877 to 1915 by religious groups. In page 10, there is a table that shows the info by year. In 1877 there were 127k muslims, 2.2k christians and 0.38k jews. In 1915, there were 600k muslims, 40k jews and 80k christians.
By 1947, jews were 1/3 of the population. The jewish inmigration was accelerated by the zionist movement since the 1890s.
You know you did a good ass job when people from both sides are calling you biased lmfao
Mind Begs the Question:
- If Nazis escaped
- Embed in another Nation,Religion
- Rename their Political Movement
- Can't be recognized
- Can be recognized by Matching Policies
- Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings sir this is a youtube comment section
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Nazis cant be jews because most jews who founded israel would have recognised them and they were hunted down by mossad agents
The basis of nazism was to hate the jews
You can recognise a nazi just ask him what do you think about them jews??
I think youre talking about china putting muslims in camps up in tibet because prior to october 7 palestines in gaza lived their lives and west bank is pretty much a paradise compared to anything in SYRIA..
@@hellotheretherealby youtube Past records it will pass
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
i have made the horrible mistake of pressing "newest"
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Same, the guy above you sent 20 of the same message.
Yep
Same lol
It's crazy how many conflicts in the past century are fully or at least partially from the treaties at the end of WW1.
Pretty much all of them
The war to end all wars.
More like the war that caused all of today's modern conflicts
It’s almost like world wars are really important
@@extantfellow46 all because one ass hole from Serbia shot some other ass hole from a country that doesn't even exist anymore.
@@extantfellow46 instead of being trhe war to end all wars, it was the war to fuel all other wars
Very balanced and informative video. Well done.
@@samuraipenguin8120then would you mind explaining “every single detail?”
I am disappointed when Russia was invading Ukraine everyone was making videos covering Russian war crimes every single week and it took them this long to make a single video covering the topic it's like people are afraid to cover Israeli war crimes.
Not even sort of.
@@magma9000 That's because Russia is a global superpower while Israel is a tiny state. I don't know if this sounds offensive, but alot of people just don't care about it, because it doesn't effect them.
@@samuraipenguin8120 explaining every single detail would make a video at least an entire day long 😂
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Jesus, the comments are *carcinogenic* . Some are claiming it’s biased toward Israel, some say biased against Israel.
Forewarned, I had to try. I've seen some p*** ad in comments, plenty of hostility, etc.
I see fairly strong opinions there, but about a third of the newest comments is pretty factual.
Depending on your own bias, you can choose which third, I suppose.
I checked, it’s not bad. People are having simple discussions and are discussing who’s truly at fault.
Seems like the Zionists / Prior leaders decided how it all became split apart.
The Jewish people didn’t pick it and the people already there didn’t pick it, it was the fault of the zionists wanting to go back to their ancient homeland
@@Leyirs the Zionists were willing to accept the Peel commission and the 1947 borders, both without Jerusalem or any of the historical sites or any historical cities like Hebron, which a massacre took place in 1929 killing 67 and forcing the others to leave. I feel like the Zionist had more of a “We were fine with the original border but since we got this land after the war, we’ll keep it” mentality. Things like the nakba are not justifiable but inevitable as wars cause displacement, especially if the one who started the war loose.
Great video. Mistake though at 2:30, the mandate for Palestine included Jordan as well... Only later were they spilt off as a separate entity and independent.
reason why the West Bank got its name
Thank you for the correction!
Which makes one wonder why it was called Palestine and not Cisjordan... would've made a lot more sense...
@@occam7382Cisjordan wouldn't have made any sense. Cis is latin for "on this side of", and considering the West Bank lies within Israel's borders, it would not be "on this side of Jordan". What *would* make sense, if we're so inclined to use latin prefixes in the naming of modern territories, would be Cisisraeli Jordan
so the arabs did get their own state (it's called jordan)
Pressing newest was a big mistake
Tbf literally every single video on RUclips is like that, even if it’s not talking about a controversial subject💀
Always nice to see a new AH episode popping up. I am amazing by the sheer amount of content you guys are able to produce. Keep up the great work AH and team.
For a second I thought AH Was referring to a certain painter.😂
Yoooo het is history hustle
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Same 😭@@Osama_Zyn_Laden
You make a great work, too.
I'm so glad this comment section is full of people with the ability to communicate in function ways like actual adults should, regardless of your standing on the conflict, this video is INCREDIBLY well made and grounded in fact (like always) and im so glad it is civil down here
Hear, hear! I am always impressed by his ability to discuss something reasonably and give facts instead of opinions. Always well balanced, gives both sides accounts and lets you form your own thoughts.
1st why does arabs have to pay for what european whited did to european juice? 2nd why didnt u mention , how the P arabs gave nice hospitality to juice when they were getting persecuted by european white christians? 3rd why didnt u mention , how the juice who came from europe after living in the hospitality of P arabs took over the house of P arabs and fueled the war which caused NAKBA? Arabs didnt want to start the war , rather they were fueled to.
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@@Trollingthemloudlytndwdym you kid
I disagree. I find the video isn't that good as you say ,because
did he mention the jewish Nakbar? Did he say what happend on 7 Oktober?
Did he say that Palestine didn't recognise Israel?
Did he say that Hamas is stealing the aid and uses it for war against Israel?
Did he say that the Palestinian Leader in the 1930er was a friend of Hitler?
Why didn't he mention the Iran that is responsible for the wars in the middle east?
For me the videos was to short and it only scrapped the surface of the topic. Which leads to dangers half knowledge.
War is war, but everyone is human and deserve peace
coundn't have said it better myself
Good you are still there in These Times we need the armchair historian thx and merry xmas
Very brave of you guys to actually cover this topic!!
Why topic like this always gets you know, why people get scared of talking about these topics?
It's not like they lied.
@@Neopolitan2024 Well, even if you tell what is actually happening based on history. People tend to cope and malding for what they believe. Thats where the fire was lit, we didnt want that do we?
@@Neopolitan2024lots of bigots when it comes to this topic, they label you as zionist and israel supporters when people point out that there are terrorist attacks at israel civilians as well
@@Neopolitan2024Because Israel supporters are allergic to the truth. The same people that killed/attempted to kill (depending on your religion) Jesus.
Thanks for making this video. It helps to provide context for ongoing situation in Israel & Gaza without being too overwhelming. I wish for peace in both Israel and Palestine, and hopefully they can co-exist peacefully in long run.
You are right.
I won't be shocked if IDF bots will find something to get offended about
@@user-op8fg3ny3jZionist, Fatah and Hamas bots / shills will all be pissed with what I am saying anyway, since none of them wants a two state solution.
Yes, please let there be peace in the holy land once again.
If the u.s. stopped funding the genocide, it would stop tomorrow.
0% Bias
0% Meatriding
0% Chosing side
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Great video very difficult to make it without being biased big respect!
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a States policies are
- Starvation,Death Camps,Gassing/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Has the right to exist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsyes because a states right to exist is based on monopoly of violence
It's crazy how in depth the video is. It might have benefited from a longer run time to avoid speed running. Yet, with a modest 15 minutes, we got a thorough analysis of the history of Israel-Palestine via the borders. (Goes to show how important geography is when learning history.)
not really, it failed to cover or show true facts, context, and just generally cover around 70% of the things he mentioned, he downplayed the 1973 yom kipur war, failed to establish multiple facts like Israeli self defense throughout the conflict and palestinian militias causing the collapse of lebanon and a civil war in jordan
bruh its not even 20 minutes, do your own research, his videos are good but very over simplified and it lacks a lot of context that makes the Israeli side look a lot worse
@@thehaus6998 It honestly seems like you are speaking from a place a bias. In any case, please feel free to tell me which important facts you feel were omitted entirely.
@@samuraipenguin8120 "Make the Israeli side look a lot worse?" Lol. Sorry buddy. But that's the geopolitical reality. It's a reality worsened by the fact that Israel is so much more powerful than any of its foes.
And there is no Israeli or Palestinian side. People are not a monolith.
At last you spreaded a lie by telling hamas captured gaza
Hamas won the palastinian election
they were forced to fight because isreal together with Plo tried to stab in there back & capture the power again
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Man! I’ve been watching your videos for years now and I really appreciate your work and breakdowns. Always impartial and stick to the facts. Keep doing the quality work you do. I salute you
Thank you armchair historian. Always excellent content
Fun fact.
In 1903, the British Uganda Programme proposed Uganda as a Homeland for the Jewish people.
Still, « land w/out people for a ppl w/out land » means the gên0cide would‘ve taken place in Uganda.
Also, the Polish government before it's German occupation thought about moving it's increasing Jewish population to Madagascar and later, in 1940, Nazi Germany suggested moving the entire Jewish population to Madagascar. It was declined as Madagascar was a French colony.
@@sarychm6061 naah we're pretty chill down here did you know in kenya (Uganda's neighbour) they mashed 42 different etnicities together and we are chill I mean 1903 was a long time ago since we got the brits doing their thing here we would have just lived in like cool guess we have hannukah at some point ....not everyone is a monster in this world mate...
@@cleef990 so are you saying that Palestinians are monsters? In what world is it okay to move to someone else’s land and establish it as yours? Your ancestors are victims of colonialism and yet you support it? It seems like wisdom is chasing after you but you’re running faster. Akili kama matako ya mbuuzi
@@beenie719 Pretty dumb thinking the losers in multiple wars get to decide the terms, get real son. How about we give it back to the Ottomans or maybe Italy? No such thing as Palestine. I couldn't care less about Israel, use some logic.
Amazing video! I knew a lot of this already but I did learn some new things. He always does a fantastic job of being evenhanded when reporting on any subject and this one is a very difficult subject to tackle. Kudos!
I wish he was. The chronology shows some bias. The mention of Jewish militias Irgun and Lehi (without even mentioning Haganah) before mentioning any Arab violence? And that's not the only problem with this video. Anyway, I'd bet on some off-screen researcher having hidden agenda, rather than Griffin himself.
I agree with you. On this video make it look the Jews are guilty. 1:20 He said that the jews came and took there Land Like they stealed it ,but in reality the jews bought the land from large arab landowners.
@@vlastimil-furst I agree this videos was framed pro-palestine or more anti-jewish.
“I’m sure this video won’t cause anyone to DIE!” Oversimplified
Quite certainly not by the hands of Muslims, it was pro-Palestinian enough. There could still be some unhinged ultraorthodox Jew out there, some of them are quite bonkers.
Forgetting that Israel used to be Judea, and was given the name “Palestine” by the Roman occupiers.
The Pharasees lost. The Sanhedrin forsook God and his son.
Bar Kokhba looked not to Adonai Elohim or Yeshua, but to militarism instead of rendering onto Hadrian (Caesar) what is his.
Their coming back is a deception. Don't trust them, these Germans (Ashkenazi) are crafty
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR A LOOOOONG TIME!!!!!
I was so happy that there is a video on this topic.
Then I got disillusioned about the whole Armchair Historian channel, sadly.
Too much bias against Israel, mostly in leaving out the parts that aren't exactly flattering to the Palestinians.
Whoever did the research followed some agenda.
@@vlastimil-furst Although i support Palestine with a passion, i think its important to be unbiased
@@KedrickRIX Agreed. It should be our opinions that differ, not our facts. Especially historians should aim for historical accuracy, not some agenda.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
Love this video, as it provides the most unbiased coverage of the conflict I’ve ever seen on RUclips. Somethings I would’ve like to see/hear more about was the troop composition during the wars (e.g.: the 1948 war, where both sides were actually evenly matched in terms of composition). Additionally, it might be worth mentioning the role of soviet/western influence throughout the years of this conflict.
Adding on here, I would have liked to hear more about the Oslo accords, as the standing PM at that time, Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated not even a year after its proposal by a zionist. Following his death, Netanyahu succeeded him, a man who believes that Hitler was pressured in creating the Holocaust due to the influence of some Arabs. You can imagine how well he treated the Palestinians when he was (and is still) in power.
Exactly, it is one of the very very few unbiased videos
The Soviets had no role. The decisive role was for Britain, and after World War II, the role was taken by the USA and its support for Zionism.
Yes, there are many shortcomings in the video, and making the video short is a little annoying. There are many important topics that were shortened or ignored, such as the reaction of the Palestinian people after Oslo, the two Palestinian intifadas, the founding of Hamas, and the condition of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank and those who remain of them in Israel. I wish I had mentioned them.
Sorry but this video was biased in its many omissions. He skipped over a lot, not just the Palestine riots of 1929 which caused the Irgun and Lehi to be formed. He also skipped over the fact that the straights of Tiran and Suez canal were closed to Israeli shipping, and the Egyptians and Syrians were amassing troops on Israel's border, when Israel's Airforce did a "pre-emptive attack"in 1967. The fact that it was the British who brought the idea to the Zionists World congress for the Balfour declaration only after the communists took over Russia because they had faulty intelligence that the communists were ran by Jews, (that was the Mensheviks who lost to the Bolsheviks who were primarily not Jewish), and they thought by offering the Jews a state it would sway communist Russia to stay allied with the UK in WW1. It was also the UK and France who masterminded and convinced Israel to join them in the "Suez Crisis" a war to get back control over the Suez canal that Egypt had nationalized from British and French private companies. "Nasser's response was the nationalization of the Suez Canal. On 26 July, in a speech in Alexandria, Nasser gave a riposte to Dulles. During his speech he deliberately pronounced the name of Ferdinand de Lesseps, the builder of the canal, a code-word for Egyptian forces to seize control of the canal and implement its nationalization.[108] He announced that the Nationalization Law had been published, that all assets of the Suez Canal Company had been frozen, and that stockholders would be paid the price of their shares according to the day's closing price on the Paris Stock Exchange.[109] That same day, Egypt closed the canal to Israeli shipping.[110] Egypt also closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, and blockaded the Gulf of Aqaba, in contravention of the Constantinople Convention of 1888. Many argued that this was also a violation of the 1949 Armistice Agreements.[111][112]" He also stated that Israel had violated United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, when it was the Arab armies, and Palestinian Fedayeen who attacked Israel 1st violating 181. When Israel declared independence it was only in the areas they controlled already, after they were attacked all that of course went out the window, because Israel took over the areas it had won, and Egypt and Jordan took over the areas they had won in Palestine.....181 specifically called for the creation of both a Jewish and Arab Palestinian state, however Egypt occupied Gaza, and Jordan occupied the West Bank.
I actually learned a lot of the pre 1950 state and the different solutions, that were proposed. Thanks for helping me better understand this subject.
Try to unlearn it please, and read e.g. Wikipedia instead. There were serious flaws in the chronology. Irgun and Lehi are mentioned as if they initiated the violence without anything to radicalize them, like events of 1929. There is more bias like this, supporting pro-Palestinian view on causality. No idea if it was a rogue researcher or team effort, but I lost faith in this channel.
@@vlastimil-furst LOL but isn't wikipedia an unreliable source?
@@vlastimil-furst and read Wikipedia instead... welp yeah all you need to know
@@user-ul3op3vh2y Of course it's better to go to the source material, books and papers. Clearly, the video quotes some, however its script either fails to understand the causality or intentionally misleads us.
I've read more than just Wikipedia on this conflict. I am well aware of some dark past of Israel's army, too. I suppose I also have some narrative to the story that is wrong somewhere. But I don't state it as the only truth.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
Sometimes I question myself and everything that I have learned about the past and the present, like who’s dumb idea was it to just randomly draw a line in the sand without the consent of the people that lives there?
Welcome to the cognitive dissonance that comes with being an American Citizen
Who's idea was it to draw random straight lines in the desert? The British and French.
Colonists specifically do this
1:32 love how smooth that animation was
Can you please cover Iran in world war 2? That would make an interesting topic of how they were important to Russia, and the ME region .
And the famine😢.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
@3:40 Outstanding quality, as usual. However. In 1948, the Flag of Palestine didn't exist; it was adopted in 1964 by the PLO. I understand that you use that flag for educational purposes, as everyone is familiar with it. But, maybe, it would be more realistic to use the flag of the Arab Liberation Army?
He has to push a narrative to get ad revenue on RUclips
@@AmericanKiaser35 yeah that's right, beautiful production on the visual front but he left out and altered so many things.
yep, pro palestinian narrative and silent support throughout @@AmericanKiaser35
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Actually, it did exist. In the World Islamic Congress of Jerusalem, 1931, a photograph of Amin al Husseini and other delegations holding a Palestine flag with the al aqsa mosque in the middle was taken
Very informative and very well made video that impartially describes both perspectives on the whole conflict. You definitely deserve more views!
The impartiality is quite a good illusion. Some damning facts are mentioned about both parties to the conflict, not giving the viewer the nagging feeling that what they're watching is propaganda. However, when there were some critical omissions that couldn't be merely a honest mistake (or just for the sake of brevity), they were always removing causes to the actions of Israel, e.g. that the militias Irgun and Lehi were only formed after 1929 Palestine riots that saw a lot of Arab violence against Jews.
Judging by positive feedback, it is quite clear that the subversion was quite efficient.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
Nicely done video
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
You already know your gonna learn someing new when the Armchair Historian posts
Something you'd do yourself a favor if you unlearned (or studied from raw facts and with less narrative).
There were serious flaws in the chronology. Irgun and Lehi are mentioned as if they initiated the violence without anything to radicalize them, like events of 1929. There is more bias like this, supporting pro-Palestinian view on causality. No idea if it was a rogue researcher or team effort, but I lost faith in this channel.
He bent the hisstory the way he liked it. You could say he lied. He didn't mention the jewish Nakbar didn't He?
Wait didn’t they call the Palestinians “local Arabs” before 1960 or 1980?
they were called arabs of palestine before the 1960, there was a call for an arab state
then time passes and concepts evolve
@GREENMASTER They did. In fact the term “Palestinian” was not generally used to refer to Arabs. Many Jews even identified as Palestinian. For example, the newspaper “The Palestine Post” was actually a Jewish newspaper.
As mentioned, Palestine is a name given to the region. Theres Arab Palestinians, Jewish Palestinians, and Palestinians from other ethnic groups.
even israelis PM , wanted palestenian passport during holocaust . what are u yapping?🤭
@@animeXcaso In Islam, they define people as;
1) Muslim
2) Arab
3) Your Ethnicity.
In this case, 3) would be Palestinian. The British and partially the UN, didn’t consider anyone anything other than Arab Ethnicity. Therefore the West in large part never acknowledged the Palestinian Ethnicity until the PLO attacked the Munich Olympics in 1972.
This is because no one truly asked the Palestinians what they thought.
I think this video misses crucial details. For example the fact that there were already jewish populations in the Middle-Rast and Palestine, even European jews (Ashkenazi) that settled on the invitation of the Ottoman Empire. Jews were treated better under the Ottomans than Medieval and early modern Europe, but were still second rate citizens and usually invited because they had a lot of capital and thus were interesting as a source for taxation and skilled workers. Besides this Jews have over the millenia always tried to move back to what is Palestine. Their population there was largely eradicated due to the catholic crusades in the region. Also British mandate palestine also included Jordan, which radical zionists like that of Irgun tried to claim as Israel (you can even see it in their logo). Besides this Arabs in the region although protesting their migration to the region sold land to the jews often voluntarily. They even asked the british to ban the sale of land to the jews but would still sell it. During that time there were also conflicts that flared up between both groups woth killings as a result. The British tried also to propose a one-state solution in which both groups would enjoy equal rights and religious protection, but the Muslim Arabs rejected all proposals and even invitations to help organise and contribute to the shaping of a political state in Palestine by the British.
for all these details and more, this video is not as neutral as they say
اعتقد يجب أن تضع نفسك مكان الفلسطينيين عندما يأتي مجموعة من المهاجرين يحتلون أراضي الفلسطينيين بدعم من الإنتداب البريطاني هل ستوافق على أن تقاسم ارضك مع مجموعة من المهاجرين ؟!!
@@husseinshuwaikh9587 I have to share my country with groups of immigrants. My country has accepted from 2010 to 2022 2.144.609 immigrants, while having 1.427.802 emigrants (numbers are from statbel, statistics agency of Belgium). The country is around 11 million people. Depending on the ethnic make-up of the people immigrating and emigrating (which I cannot find), this basically means that my country is no longer culturally or ethnically 'pure' as some would say. I as a Belgian and many other Western Europeans have to accept that. I cannot see why we should have this standard apply to us Europeans, while not applying it to other cultures as well. Sure I wish there was less migration in my own country and I do sympathize with the Palestinians that have been forced out of their homes by Israeli's. The last thing I'm saying is that Israel or Israeli's are innocent. But if we Europeans are expected to just accept immigration from cultures and ethnicities different from our own and sometimes quite hostile to our own, it'd be pure hypocrisy to not have this standard being applied to the rest of the world. I understand in the Islamic world this does not apply, but in Europe this is what our political leaders, the media and many who do have a clear voice in society seem to expect from their population. In my opinion, it is unfair to expect this from its own population while treating foreigners with a different set of standards.
@@genmontgomeree9888 Yeah it's ironic that its mainly Muslims/Arabs that make up the immigrant population in Europe yet on the flip-side many Arab countries are heavily against any similar level of immigration numbers into their own countries.
Jews were treated better under the Ottomans are you kidding me, Even hear about the Armenian genocide because they are christian, This is how muslim world do to disbelieve, They give you three choice 1.converts 2.heavy taxation 3.dead, Islam is about submission to allah in they core teachings. One example 4:89 They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allāh. But if they turn away [i.e., refuse], then seize them and K them [for their betrayal] wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper, saheeh international.
You have some good stuff here, but there are a couple key things you skipped over.
Before the war in 1948 between Israel as a state and it's 5 Arab Neighboring countries, those countries instructed their Arab citizens living in the territory they were about to go to war over to leave and that they would have the "right of return" once they took care of Israel. They just didn't want their civilians to be caught in the crossfire. It would be 5 against 1. Then Israel won, and that is now framed Israel as a bunch of evil colonists when that in fact was not the case.
You also need to go back further than just the British mandate and ottoman empire. I know it would be a very long video, but the era of the 1900s to present is just little sliver of history with that land. There is so much people need to know that simply starting there paints this situation as "where it all started" when it in fact didn't "just start' there.
I love when people say 5 countries attacked Israel and leave out the fact that the Israelis had about twice the manpower of the Arabs combined. Plan Dalet's sinister objectives were long implemented by the time the Arabs responded.
@@nrsrymj That was at the start of the war, by the end the Israelis had about 117 thousand soldiers. They were fighting a war on all fronts and won.
@@TwoPence111 and the Arabs had a maximum of 63k soldiers, about half as many as I said. Israel was never going to lose. It wasn't a miracle.
@@nrsrymj the war in 1948 wasn't as much of a miracle as the war in 1967 (which has been called the most impressive victory in military history) however organizational wise it was 3 paramilitaries and a large influx of people coming to Israel from all across the world, bringing their languages with them.
@@nrsrymj
Yeah Israel had more boots on the Ground but Israel had ALMOST NO TANKS, Almost NO AIR FORCE, and ALMOST NO ARTILLERY.
The 1948 war was a big Miracle and you can't deny that
You are a very brave man.
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Your video: 'the war in Ukriane according to Russia' was a great video
Yoooo animarchy is here
hi animarchy keep up the good content
I prefer History Legends.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
I like how the hate comments are targeted at jews/palestinian and not at the british
interesting point
"what is Jerusalem really worth?"
"Nothing. Everything."
This is a well-balanced video, which given the subject matter is quite impressive. Also impressive is your ability to largely explain a 100+ year conflict in just 16 minutes, pushing back against some of the more unscholarly and derogatory positions in the process.
The balance or impartiality is quite a good illusion. Some damning facts are mentioned about both parties to the conflict, not giving the viewer the nagging feeling that what they're watching is propaganda. However, when there were some critical omissions that couldn't be merely a honest mistake (or just for the sake of brevity), they were always removing causes to the actions of Israel, e.g. that the militias Irgun and Lehi were only formed after 1929 Palestine riots that saw a lot of Arab violence against Jews.
Judging by positive feedback, it is quite clear that the subversion was quite efficient.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
This is the best war/historic channel on RUclips. I've never seen this high quality videos with this much objective view of the topics he depicts
There is a latin american channel called La Historia como NO te la contaron (History as they DIDN'T teach you) that has a playlist on the War of the Pacific (1879-1884, 🇨🇱vs🇧🇴🇵🇪) that is the best series I've ever seen about military history in RUclips, about any conflict ever. It is neutral, detailed and fun. Go and take a look.
@@Vichikuma i don't understand Spanish tho
@@vergil-am Yeah the one thing they could've made better is to add writen english subs.
They also have an excellent playlist on the fall of the Incan Empire. As a chilean historian myself, I binge watched it las night and I didn't know a lot of details mentioned in it.
Settle down, they cant even pronounce names and places correctly half the time.
War graphics also is really great for wars and politics, they also cover some history
While they have stock footage half the time, it actually means you can listen and do other stuff at the same time (like a podcast)
King Faisal had signed the Weitzman-Faisal agreement at the Paris Peace Conference which stated that Jews would get Palestine, as long as the rest of the Ottoman territories went to the Arabs.
would get parts of palestine*, and jerusalem would be in arabic hands.
Jordan has long been a more moderate country, before the war of 1973 the king himself warned Golda Meier of the impending attack.
@@norsie45 The Mandate of Palestine!, there was no official Palestine before this. The Ottomans had NOTHING called Palestine for the 400 years of rule. The Mamluks before the Ottomans, had NOTHING called Palestine. The Crusaders before the Mamluks, had NOTHING called Palestine. That is over 1000 years with NOTHING called Palestine. The Christian West called the Holy Land as Palestine, the people living there did not.
*angry biased comment*
*angry biased reply from opposing side*
Triggered!
Merry Christmas! 🎄🎁
I see you forgot to mention that the British Mandate also started to appease the Arabs in the 30s with the introductory of the white books, which limited Jewish immigrantion to the area.
I think this video is too short to give credence to a comprehensive analysis of the situation. Especially with videos like these they should at least be 2 hours long to cover all major aspects of the Israeli-Palestinian question
With war looming in Europe the British couldn't afford to have thousands of troops tied down in Palestine therefore they caved in to Arab demands housing refugees on Cyprus instead
Thanks for the balanced and accurate analysis of the of really complex situation.
Balanced, not quite, accurate, neither. Actually there is a lot of bias, but either you share it or you just can't see it. The impartiality is quite a good illusion. Some damning facts are mentioned about both parties to the conflict, not giving the viewer the nagging feeling that what they're watching is propaganda.
However, when there were some critical omissions that couldn't be merely a honest mistake (or just for the sake of brevity), they were always removing causes to the actions of Israel, e.g. that the militias Irgun and Lehi were only formed after 1929 Palestine riots that saw a lot of Arab violence against Jews.
Judging by positive feedback, it is quite clear that the subversion was quite efficient.
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
This debate is childish, no state deserves any land. Force is the only way a state can be established and maintained. If you want peace it will take blood, war & eventually compromise
love is best.
Life is best.
Forgive is best.
What I think of the Arab-Israeli conflict is that this conflict is futile and too depressing and tedious to contemplate. This endless cycle of conflict benefits no one, Sun-Tzu warned.
Lol that’s like saying the Nazi-Allies conflict is too futile let’s give the Nazis an equal amount of respect, sympathy and benefit of the doubt as the allies and try to understand them. The Nazis are the Zionist Israelis in this situation. Backed by history and facts. People don’t have the spine to stand up for what’s right anymore, just in an effort to feel virtuous and not hurt any feelings. You should take the KKK, Russia Nazi & ISIS’s feelings into consideration too
"This endless cycle of conflict benefits no one." This aint true m8. lotta mfkers would give they left nut to keep this war going forever.
Sun-Tzu predicted the Gaza Genocide?
@@user-op8fg3ny3jdid he predict the mass rape perpetrated by Palestine too?
nah, it benefits the israel and us. us companys sell alot of guns to israel, israel use it to control the natural resources and keep western influence in the region, and a bunch of billionaires get more wealth
This man always does a 10/10 job actually going in great detail about modern and past conflicts
always except for this time
gw agould of included arab revolt in 1936-38
@@thehaus6998so make you're on video or shut up
1st why does arabs have to pay for what european whited did to european juice? 2nd why didnt u mention , how the P arabs gave nice hospitality to juice when they were getting persecuted by european white christians? 3rd why didnt u mention , how the juice who came from europe after living in the hospitality of P arabs took over the house of P arabs and fueled the war which caused NAKBA? Arabs didnt want to start the war , rather they were fueled to.
Squid, I wish the video was as good as you say. There were serious flaws in the chronology. Irgun and Lehi are mentioned as if they initiated the violence without anything to radicalize them, like events of 1929. There is more bias like this, supporting pro-Palestinian view on causality. No idea if it was a rogue researcher or team effort, but I lost faith in this channel.
Commenting for algorithm, thanks for the effort
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
Excellent video on a very sad situation
This is incredible. I hope this can help people to see the ongoing conflict from both sides instead of viewing only one side.
What "both sides" are those? Seems clear enough to me:
Everything was peaceful before certain people decided it was their right to displace those who were already living there, because the Invisible Man in the Sky told them it was theirs.
And here we are, today. Is anyone surprised?
You can understand a conflict from both sides and still support one side. Hamas wasn’t justified under any circumstances on Oct 7. Civilians get killed in air campaigns, that’s a fact of war since 1918. There is also no way to tell the difference between a terrorist and a civilian in the Gaza Strip since footage released by Hamas shows them in civilian garb.
@@luck3yp0rk93 So, you're rationalizing the genocide of Gazans. +20,000 slaughtered so far through indiscriminate bombing. Bloodthirsty IDF so desperate to kill Palestinians, that they murdered three hostages surrendering under a white flag, simply because they thought they were Arabs. Families homeless, children dead, a famine coming... And you're ok with this. Oh, boy. I guess _"Never again"_ means _"Never again unless WE do it."_
Understanding history is great but there comes a point when the history is no longer relevant. That point was passed a long time ago. Most of the population of Israel was born in Israel. That means they're no longer participating in the zionist plot. They're simply defending their home.
@@luck3yp0rk93 does that justified israhell RANDOM bombing on civilians? For past 76 years?
I never see israhell official/supporter to condemn IDF for what they did. Instead spokeperson for israhell officials and IDF give CLEAR INTENTION to ELIMINATE PALESTINIAN CHILDREN!
Could you make a video about the Second Italo Ethiopian war, and the Ethiopian "Arbegnoch" resistance that contained the fight against the Italians until Ethiopia was liberated?
You did a great job covering a lot of ground in a short amount of time. But there's one crucial point I need to correct you on:
At 1:35, you say around 1919 that Jews "began to arrive and steadily dispossess many 'Palestinians' from their homes." Most Jews who arrived between the 1800s-1940s acquired homes through legal land purchases from mostly Arab landowners, not through dispossession of existing populations. Conversely, Jews were often those who were dispossessed from their homes pre-1948 in Gaza, Jenin, Hebron, etc., during Arab uprisings, such as the 1929 Palestine Riots and in the 1936-1939 Arab revolts that you reference.
Exactly! This video pretends to be neutral and people don't even notice..
Ya I'm annoyed and confused about some things he omitted and some things he got wrong. 1) The Arabs got the British to restrict Jewish Immigration to the area. 2) Jewish people bought the land they moved to. 3) The Palestinians were going to be given the "fertile" land, not the other way around. 4) Arafat said no to every single offer of a 2 state solution.
Is the Sursock Purchases
One of them?
@@vladimiraehben2308 I don't think either side mentions those purchases since it is pretty irrelevant. The Arabs were not the owners of the land, they were renting, and the new Jewish owners compensated some of them even they had no obligation to.
@@bsmartr806 so it's kinda both fault?
Please make a video on the history of armchairs
"CORPORAL I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE CAN HOLD THE TRENCH THE KEYBOARD WARRIORS THEY'RE ARRIVING IN ROWS! GET DOWN GET DOWN!"
***Puts on gasmask***
Artillery would just be mass DDoS’ing
@@johnoswald8272 we don't have enough artillery then...
Man kann nie genug Artillerie haben, deshalb haben wir gerade 100 Geschütze auf diesem Hügel ;)@@ImperialBritannia
wonderfully insightful comment that really added to the discussion
Why do you make 2016 RUclips jokes? Are you exposed to any media other than RUclips military content?
It's like they keep trying to put the triangle in the square hole. Every time a war breaks out they end up putting Israel in a stronger position against them.
It does work in that one video so I mean...
Because America always helps israel
@@omarkarim7426No the Arab countries militaries just suck, they recieved military and finiancial backing from the USSR.
@@garrettfulks2932And that’s good how? The Soviet Union fell apart long ago, the US is giving Israel billions in the most advanced military tech, doesn’t stand up to Cold War Russian tech.
@@garrettfulks2932they literally receive billions in funding every year alone from the us
It’s really not that complicated as an overall picture: you try to kick a resident from their home, they’re going to retaliate by any means necessary.
But it got complicated, both sides are genuinely terrible. The civilians suffer because governments cant work towards actual worth while fixes to things.
@@AxTROUSRxMISSLE Bs. Oct 7th wasn’t the start of this, you’d be a fool to believe that. Instead of considering the Palestinian side accountable for retaliation, you should instead ask WHY do they retaliate. Again, it’s not complicated when take a few steps back.
I used to watch your content long time ago and I always was facinated by the amount of details you dive into but for this video I can't help but notice that you didn't give any details on the horrible stuff that happened leading to the nakba and also you skipped a lot of other stuff regarding the jewish migration hope you cover these matters more on other videos because I feel like you didn't give this subject the coverage that it need
I respect you and your content and hope you keep on giving more and more infos
Who's here with popcorn for a civil and healthy discussion in the comments?
@@extantfellow46Surprisingly it is civilised enough.
@@darius_alex2043It is civilised
For now
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
Amazing video, as usual. Quick question, if this history of national borders videos becomes a sub-series, would it be possible to create an evolution of Polish borders episode? The change in Poland's borders from the Middle Ages to the present could make for an incredibly informative & entertaining video.
But then, people would understand that what happened to Palestinians is not that special. That would be undermining the hidden agenda of some of Griffin's researchers.
One thing missing is the part where the Roman Empire came up with term Palestine which created the confusion as a whole as in Roman times locals called Judea and Israel
Yes, and that was like 2000 years ago
@@Herobeans true, but Romans caused this whole conflict with that term making people think it was the real name of the region
@@goldenknight2961 Question, do you believe Jacob from New York has a stronger claim to Israel than an arab palestinian family that lived there for centuries?
@@Herobeans Yes
Griffin: The enunciation of Ariel Sharon's family name is not as the female name phonetically: Sherron but phonetically: Shawrone.
I love this documentary You werent scared of being Demonitized i respect that
by the ''ThemTube Police''
Pretty sure they've already been demonetized. I mean, they discuss the facts of history without political bias, which is a HUGE no no on RUclips.
@@a.nonimus6705 ya Lol
@@a.nonimus6705 But there are 1 or 2 documentarys with Bias on this channel but Otherwise Armchair historian has no Bias
1st why does arabs have to pay for what european whited did to european juice? 2nd why didnt u mention , how the P arabs gave nice hospitality to juice when they were getting persecuted by european white christians? 3rd why didnt u mention , how the juice who came from europe after living in the hospitality of P arabs took over the house of P arabs and fueled the war which caused NAKBA? Arabs didnt want to start the war , rather they were fueled to.
The fact that I can't see any arguments in the comments just goes to show that you made a truly unbiased and factual video. Very good!
Would you consider doing a video on the Northern Irish Troubles by the way? It's a really interesting topic.
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reread the comments.. This video pretends to be neutral and people don't even notice..
@@annamobeenelooking back on this, both Palestine and Israel supporters are arguing that the video is biased to the other side. I feel like it leaves out facts that are needed to better understand the conflict, but people see this as bias rather than just trying to make the video shorter or by mistake.
You forgot to mention the 2 state solution by ehud olmert in 2006
Well organized and presented. A few remarks, if I may:
1. There was some kind of negotiation and agreement between the Jews and Arabs in the form of the Faisal-Weizmann agreement in 1919 (although some claim that it wasn't really serious).
2. The war of 1948 began actually on November 30th 1947, right after the vote on the partition plan in the UN. It started as a civil war in Palestine, and after the state of Israel was established (in May 1948) it expanded also to war with the Arab countries in the region.
another nitpick I would add is that zionism is in fact a colonial venture, regardless of how people felt regarding their safety before and after Nazism in Europe. the leaders of zionism, reformed zionism, their connections, their documented pledges and negotiations undisputedly display zionism as a colonial project seeking the Palestinian territory in order to build the foundations of a jewish state. the history of the JNF the largest owner of land in Israel would also confirm this. the purchase of land, labour and housing segregation and discrimination was strategically done to take over the territory rather than emigrate and settle in it.
I needed that catch up. I knew a lot of what was formatted cleanly here in tiny bits and pieces and this just really connected the dots for me and filled in gaps. Didn't even realize the west banks PA is the PLO from my childhood thought hamas had pretty much done them all in. Thank you to the team for taking the plunge on a highly controversial topic.
Out of pure curiosity mate, where are you from? If the PLO was notable during your childhood I'm interested to know.
@@eyalamit5120 West coast of Canada, was all over the news much... Like it is today, I guess.
@@larrymunn5279 Oh, You were keeping up with us then, neat!
@@eyalamit5120 Hamas, which is an abbreviation of the name of the Islamic Jihad Movement, is a movement that most young Arabs see as a moderate Islamic resistance movement. It believes that the best possible solution is to return to the 1967 borders. Of course, there are more right-wing movements, such as the Al-Quds Brigades, which want the entire territory before partition. There are also secular and socialist movements. in Gaza
@@eyalamit5120 We received many persecuted Jews from Europe, but instead our lands were stolen and we were abandoned. We no longer have a homeland. We also want peace, but under our sovereignty and not someone else. I am sorry that I spoke too much. There is an episode in the name of Palestine on the Al-Daheh program. I hope you will listen to it if you want more. the details
Would like to have a video about the history of the Philippines someday but it might take a while for that to happen
Thank you for giving both sides of the conflict, it’s frustrating when the media only gives one side like it’s some football game
Exactly
1st why does arabs have to pay for what european whited did to european juice? 2nd why didnt u mention , how the P arabs gave nice hospitality to juice when they were getting persecuted by european white christians? 3rd why didnt u mention , how the juice who came from europe after living in the hospitality of P arabs took over the house of P arabs and fueled the war which caused NAKBA? Arabs didnt want to start the war , rather they were fueled to.
Israel have a side?
I wish the video was as good as you say. There were serious flaws in the chronology. Irgun and Lehi are mentioned as if they initiated the violence without anything to radicalize them, like events of 1929. There is more bias like this, supporting pro-Palestinian view on causality. No idea if it was a rogue researcher or team effort, but I lost faith in this channel.
@@Ghostiee8 Obviously, multiple countries support Israel.
entire segment about the nakba but no mention of 900,000 jews expulsed from arab countries
It’s a history of Israeli Palestine conflict, and these largely took place in other countries. Although it’s an important point because a lot of Israel’s population came from these exiled civilians.
Muslim countries only did this as a retaliation for Jews exiling and robbing Palestinians from their land. That’s the problem with this conflict is people always want their retribution
@@817sports by "alot" you should mean 60%
@@robloxfanboy86 yeah it’s a big portion of Israel’s population. But also you have to mention that Jews weren’t being persecuted so widely in Muslim countries before Jews exiled and massacred 700,000 Palestinian civilians to create the state of Israel
The Muslim countries wanted retribution for Israel’s terrorism and land theft and unfortunately Jews across the Middle East were massively persecuted as a result of Israel’s terrorism and rape of the civilians in Palestine
Probably because it wasn’t an expulsion, it was an exodus. They chose to immigrate and go colonize Palestine.
this is a very complicated convoluted history, so simplifying it is inevitably necessary, but this is surprisingly in depth.
It really isn’t complicated. Pro Israel people say that to make it not so clear cut but at the end of the day it’s actually fairly simple.
Israel is a colonial apartheid state.
@@daithi6826it is complicated, saying it is not immediately shows massive bias and being clouded by emotion for either side
@@randommonkey4900 the situation is deceptively simple. And especially so since 1948
@@randommonkey4900 If a thief broke into your home trying to claim it as his own, you would naturally try to fend him off rather than negociate a 'two house solution' with the thief, and you wouldn't say it's complicated.
@@Fent_overdoserlooks like the internet historians are here
Something not mentioned but seems vital is the fact that jordan controlled the west bank and it was seen as jordanian territory for quite a while. As well as the counter arab immigration that was propogated by egypt and other arab countries as a counter to jewish immigration.
There was counter immigration from Syria and Egypt. Approximately 1/3-40% of Palestinians can trace their roots to one of those two countries.
Its hard to cover the complex topic in such a short time and not feel like there is bias by omission.
Tricky subject, well presented.
Minor nit-pick: if it were me, I would have also mentioned that after Israel's independence, thousands of Jews from Arab countries were forced or pressured to immigrate to Israel.
Excellent job overall, though! I'm sure it took a lot of work to get the script as neutral, unbiased, and factual as possible.
I would’ve also mentioned how to end the Great Arab Revolt, the British agreed to greatly curtail Jewish immigration, leading to thousands of Jews being turned away during World War 2 when they were fleeing the Holocaust. The fact the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem at the time, Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, collaborated with Hitler during World War 2 has also not been forgotten.
I’d have also mentioned Haj Amin al-Husseini’s meetings with Hitler and their agreed-upon plan to genocide middle eastern Jews, but that’s just me. You left out a lot of important information. As a fan of your channel I’m disappointed.
he missed a lot of things hence why this is a horrible subject as a whole, you can't change anyone's minds because nobody knows the Jewish side in depth
@@stevenlewis4556 about the Mufti, his collaboration had no serious effect on the region. Because the Germans and Italians were too far away to do anything. And Iraq siding with Axis is much more of a geopolitical than religious affair. Also there are many muslim clerics who helped the jews in their time of need. Nothing can justify the murder of millions of people jewish or arabs
@@ahnafusaid8028 His collaboration was never going to change the outcome of the war, but siding with the Nazis definitely soured his relationship with the British. As for Muslim clerics that aided the Jews in their time of need- name them. I’m not familiar with any.
Great video
Using the term Palestinians to mean Arabs is disingenuous. The Arab people in the land did not call themselves as Palestinians, and it gives the idea that they were all in the land forever, when there was massive Arab Levantine and Muslim refugee migration in the 1900s.
Palestinian DNA is overwhelmingly Canaanite being only 20% actual Arab
You could deny Ukrainians exist by the same logic. Not really a distinct group from Russians until the 1910s-20s. Also how does the last 70 years of history not make them distinct from the other Arabs? They’ve been 2nd class citizens in their home for 70 years. Also if they aren’t distinct then what are the Palestinian Christians? Palestinians are all pretty directly descended from the Israelites and canaanites. How aren’t they indigenous and distinct? If speaking the same language as other people makes you the same ethnic group then American whites and blacks are also the same race
It’s just a reference to their nationality. As in, people who live in the country. Don’t get so bent out of shape over it
@@words3147 No, the Palestinians are Not mostly the descendants of Jews and Christians. Palestinian Christians have different DNA than Palestinian Muslims, The Palestinians in Gaza have different DNA than the Palestinians in the West Bank.
Many people claiming the identity of Palestinians are not from Palestine. They are recent Muslim refugees invited into the land by the Ottomans. Bosniaks, Circassians, Chechins and Sudanese are not Palestinians! And, Arab Levantine laborers that came into the land as support personnel for the British, and because of the prosperity brought by the Jews reclaiming the land. Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, Iraqis and Lebanese are not Palestinians!! The Palestinians are not an ethnicity, as Ukrainians are not an ethnicity, it is a Political identity created by the KGB and PLO in 1964 to try to destroy the Only Jewish state.
@@ZeroResurrected There was Never a nation of Palestine!
Really great video! I just want to point out that at 6:06 you say “Jews and Palestinians” but I think you meant “Jews and Arabs”. At that time they were all considered “Palestinian” and many Jews considered themselves Palestinian. For example, the newspaper “The Palestine Post” was a Jewish newspaper.
There was never an israeli identity to begin with of course all of them were called Palestinians
@@ZhuyithNuristaniarabs called themselves southern syrians
@johnhudson2210 "zionist identity for centuries"
You really are gullible hahahahah
@AppyNuristani
I don't know about them but they really wiped out your existence @@ZhuyithNuristani
@@ZhuyithNuristani Palestine was a name given to Judea. Not an identity. Judea, Kingdom of Israel, etc. are all leading to modern day Israel
The comments are gonna be like vietnam
just filter the comments by newest and you gonna see the results lmao
The Watchman River channel’s newest vid brought me here.
Next to the Nakbah you forgot to mention the Jewish exodus from the Arab world during the 40's and 50's (half of Israel's Jewish population nowadays are their descendents)
Well they had a homeland to go to
It's important to acknowledge that the population exchange had two sides. An important point is that Jews moved on while the Palestinians in Gaza or the west bank still call themselves "refugees" 74 years and ask to move into Israel. It's another reason why the conflict goes on. Germans, Greeks, Turks, Jews - all had transfers yet don't consider themselves refugees a century later. If Jews who lived in Gaza or Baghdad prior to 1948 don't call thsemelves refugees, no reason for a Palestinian under the Palestinian autority to do so because his great grandfather was born in Israel before the war. @@Bunyourdesires
One group was massacred and pushed out of their land and one willingly traveled to their new found home. You can’t compare the Nakba to bunch of Arab Jews fulfilling their colonial ambitions. For example Moroccan Jews lived in peace and some still live to this day in Morocco.
@@zaydlahfit5835 it was actually the mossad who terrorised local jews to give them a reason to migrate, many morocccan jews testified it.
also its funny cuz when they reached there ashkanazi jews saw them as "s b-human" and were discriminated against, most of settelments near arab countries were forcefuly settled by "arab jews" by zionists.
@@zaydlahfit5835 jews were massacred and pushed out of their lands in syria egypt iraq tunis yemen and libya tf are u talking about even in morocco the jews were attacked read about oujda 1948 ffs
It’s critical to mention that there were and always have been Jews in the holy land, including after the expulsion by Rome. The idea that all Jews left what is modern day Israel is fan faction concocted by evangelical Christians and their interpretation of biblical text. And for some reason the world took this fan fiction and ran with it.
Many Jews living in this region purchased large swaths of land from the Ottomans, who needed to fund their army during WWI and previous conflicts. So it’s hardly this scenario of Jews came in and just dispossessed all Palestinians and that all Jews are living on land that previously belonged to Palestinians. That is false.
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@@patrickadi6155 except then he goes on to portray the situation as though the Jews weren’t there and suddenly showed up and dispossessed all the Palestinians of their land.
thankyou for saying evangelical, because not all Christians are evangelical
@@strongallalong89 because the majority were that, they came in droves, the jews in palestine were not part of it and are the minority, and they were Mizhari jews, not European jews.
Is that marvel music I heard in the background
Really unbiased stuff. Impressed you went all the way back to the fall of the ottoman era.
Very professional presentation sir!
Just because the brits occupied it doesnt mean there were no indigenous people . Britain illegally occupied Palestine and committed horrific atrocities to the Palestinian people. And then they brought jews from Europe because the Europeans couldn’t live peacefully and accept Jews they decided to kick all of them out and pass the guilt to Palestinians for what has happened to the jews it’s Palestineans who are treating jews so unfairly ! Palestinians were killed and murdered on the hands of militarized jew men which the British army armed to fight the Palestinians! Millions of Palestinians we’re slaughtered women men children old and young . Palestinian lands and homes were taken under the watch of the British army that was helping militarize the Jews to attack Palestinians and kill them ! And drive them of their land .
Despite this being really short and thus missing some key information hear and there, this was still an excellent and nuanced summary for 15 minutes.
If this was Instagram.... The comments would've been Hella dark
The comment section is going to be lit
Fr bro, lol.
Truly a history moment of all time
Certified history moment
Write something original next time
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I think its a huge injustice to ignore the fact that there were Jews living in that area for thousands of years, I mean, we are in the Christmas season and Christians are celebrating the birth of a Jewish man born in Bethlehem.
In my opinion if Arab Muslims can have their own states like Jordan governed by Islsmic policies and Arab culture its also right for Jews to have a Jewish state. Arabs and Jews are both native to the region and each deserve a portion of it
There were Jews but they made up a negligible portion of the population during the turn of the century in 1900. Some reports say during this time Jews made up 3% of Palestine
LMAO stfu. None is obligated to give up their land for others to create w homeland
great video
Just give the whole land to New Zealand.
I guess that works
If you want to know who is in power find out who you cant criticize.
We need to rise up against child workers in Malaysian factories
Down with the Orphans!!!
We need more teams like the one at armchair historian.