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It’s funny that we all started out trying to achieve the perfect lighting; then at some point decide to just do what we think looks/feels right. Thanks dude 🤜🏻🤛🏻
for real man! but it’s a great path in my opinion. in everything in life. learn the rules, be good using them and then understand how to break the rules !
We gotta realize at the end of the day story telling is everything. Your trying to tell a story sell and emotion. Lighting is a just a tool to deliver that. Story always comes first
Holy smokes, this is wonderful, and I only just started on the chocolate macaroons. I started in photography in 1967 and for 45 years had to live with film. The photographer I love most was Mark Shearman, a UK full-time sports shooter who almost always shot Tri-X developed with plain old D76. His photos were wonderful, full of dramatic grit, hard light, and shadows. They gave the FEEL of the Word Cross Championships and the 5K at the Olympics. So thank you very much, Mark, for getting really real, and showing us how. There's so much more life in the clips and snaps you showed, than in the perfectly lit work you mention. I'm thinking of Akira Kurosawa who was VERY careful with light but always aimed for reality. Oh, boy, what a discovery. Thanks for an enjoyable ride. (I do go on - never ask an old guy for a brief comment, you won't get one.)
Thank you so much for this video because of the past six months I’ve been struggling and conflicted with using different cameras, being influenced by these false narratives and losing touch of just being creative so this is really inspirational for me. Thank you.
WOW! Your conclusion was spot on. I always thought that "Beauty is the mystery that blends imperfections to make itself" (book of Concepts 1988). And you came to the same conclusion - but for film. Simply WOW.
I cannot deny the lighting looks fantastic! Wouldn’t say natural for the very few workout sections I’ve seen because I don’t know anyone who would be happy working out in such a dark gym 😂 but can’t wait to see this doc
You're right for most of us. The great DPs can do both: make the scene feel authentic/not sourcey/raw while also elevating the aesthetic to match the emotional height of the story.
You are like an infinite fountain of inspiration, thank you fro doing all you do, both as cinematographer and as educator 🙏🏽💚 Saludos from a small island in Finland.
You're dope bro. I've been subbed for awhile, but haven't really sat down and checked out the channel until now. Respect all around. Love a working dp's perspective!
Yess!!!!! This is why I pretty much go natural light always. Too much production takes you out of the realism. But of course depends on story. Thanks Mark!! You are a guy, man!!!!😊
while yes, it depends what level you are shooting, the real art of lighting would be to accurately replicate "natural light" (if you are referring to available light that is). We all want it to feel natural most of the times, but a room won't have light continuity if you shoot there for 10h.
Perfect examples of why I am puzzled by the 'gray everywhere' approach to contemporary lighting that seems so pervasive. It's the opposite of cinematic. It flattens everything.
Awesome video. I felt myself focusing on getting my lighting perfect instead of “real” or what fit the project and this was a reminder for me to stick to my guns. Not to have the lighting draw away from the story.
I've been following you for years Mark Bone. This is the most influential video you've made that deeply resonates with me. For far too long, I've been using countless lights to show off my "Hollywood skills." Over the years I've realized that it's just not worth it. There are so many great stories that can be lit with minimal lighting. As you've shown in the video, Ryan Gosselin was barely lit in the scene you referenced. I don't think anyone in the audience and most importantly, it felt right being so poorly lit. Thank you for sharing.
It’s weird I often say my most creative work was when I had little knowledge but lots of imagination and heart. I still have the heart but my skill level is 14 years stronger and only now I can see that the things that I perceived as amateur actually has something special about it. Life is weird that way.
Hey! I really liked those videos when you reviewed submitted content and gave feedback. It was fun. Just wanted to through in my support for more of that. Have a good day!
i mean the gym shoots kind of still look staged to me because for me maybe looking real is what is near what we usually do but alittle enhanced, so the gym shoots still look staged because I will turn on some indoor lights and would not workout in the dark. But nice shoots tho
In my opinion...... you should learn the "rules", the basics of how things work and how things "should be done". Then forget about all of that and do what feels right to you and what you're creating.
50 seconds in, the term "Hollywood Cinematographer" completely misses the point you were trying to make - there's nothing "Hollywood" about that shot, that's what makes it good. I'm not trying to argue on semantics, but hopefully, it's food for thought.
honest question: are you making artistic choices that are only impressive to other artists? if so, then what about the majority of the audience that wants to see technically perfect... or is it that technically perfect actually isn't so because it is not obeying universals that are technically more important?
dont buy this guys course, its not worth it. this guy knows barely anything about filming, i really doubt his film degree. i have bought the course and very much regret it. also just because some guys rightfully so critique his lighting he makes a 10 min video defending it as stylistic choice, what a fool.
Sent you that footage you would have gone into a long rant of all the things that are wrong with it blah blah blah give it a rest. Your sanctimonious woke ideology.
It’s bullshit!!! Low budgets and fast turnarounds!!! This is not Beautiful cinematography, it’s like putting lipstick on a pig! That’s not realism it’s sloppy filmmaking. What’s there to set us apart from a student that got the job because he is related to the producer ???
@ you can disagree all you like , doesn’t change the fact that it’s crap work when it’s done by a nobody and when it’s done by a master it’s seen as art and as intended.
Some students are really good , some established DP,s would set up an 18K cheesey backlight , eye lights, hair lights , fill lights , a 20x20 book light , 5 super troopers 90,s video slash's all over the BG and and a smoke machine, and it could look like shite. The simple point is less can be more . To light to make it look not lit is not sloppy and takes more talent ,it could be argued .
@@35mmdigitalcinemasometimes its most appropriate for the scene if the cinematography is not beautiful, but ugly. If you do not understand this, then you have not watched enough great movies.
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For Black Friday we are doing biggest AOD sale yet. 40% off all individual courses. Bonkers. Also don't forget to download our Lighting Guide PDF: tinyurl.com/3paw46va
Fantastic! I love being part of AOD, and your dedication to community, craft, and telling stories. Love the photo guide as well!
Mark is your Black Friday deal still on? I just watched this and couldn't find it. I know im a little late but .. damn. If I missed it it sucks.
It’s funny that we all started out trying to achieve the perfect lighting; then at some point decide to just do what we think looks/feels right. Thanks dude 🤜🏻🤛🏻
for real man! but it’s a great path in my opinion. in everything in life. learn the rules, be good using them and then understand how to break the rules !
We gotta realize at the end of the day story telling is everything. Your trying to tell a story sell and emotion. Lighting is a just a tool to deliver that. Story always comes first
The Sound of Metal. One of my favourite Indy films. Great examples Mark. Congrats on your doc. Looks great
Thank you kindly!
Holy smokes, this is wonderful, and I only just started on the chocolate macaroons. I started in photography in 1967 and for 45 years had to live with film. The photographer I love most was Mark Shearman, a UK full-time sports shooter who almost always shot Tri-X developed with plain old D76. His photos were wonderful, full of dramatic grit, hard light, and shadows. They gave the FEEL of the Word Cross Championships and the 5K at the Olympics. So thank you very much, Mark, for getting really real, and showing us how. There's so much more life in the clips and snaps you showed, than in the perfectly lit work you mention. I'm thinking of Akira Kurosawa who was VERY careful with light but always aimed for reality. Oh, boy, what a discovery. Thanks for an enjoyable ride. (I do go on - never ask an old guy for a brief comment, you won't get one.)
If the lighting is bad, but it makes you feel the way the characters feel, then it's art
THANK YOU for making the main thing the main thing, Mark!
Thank you so much for this video because of the past six months I’ve been struggling and conflicted with using different cameras, being influenced by these false narratives and losing touch of just being creative so this is really inspirational for me. Thank you.
WOW! Your conclusion was spot on. I always thought that "Beauty is the mystery that blends imperfections to make itself" (book of Concepts 1988). And you came to the same conclusion - but for film. Simply WOW.
that is a great quote!
I cannot deny the lighting looks fantastic! Wouldn’t say natural for the very few workout sections I’ve seen because I don’t know anyone who would be happy working out in such a dark gym 😂 but can’t wait to see this doc
Sound of metal is super underrated,
Very
You're right for most of us. The great DPs can do both: make the scene feel authentic/not sourcey/raw while also elevating the aesthetic to match the emotional height of the story.
This is really good. How do you shoot so dark but don’t have noise and artificers. How are you gaging exposure? False color?
You are like an infinite fountain of inspiration, thank you fro doing all you do, both as cinematographer and as educator 🙏🏽💚 Saludos from a small island in Finland.
Thank you mate! Appreciate the feedback
You're dope bro. I've been subbed for awhile, but haven't really sat down and checked out the channel until now. Respect all around. Love a working dp's perspective!
Yess!!!!! This is why I pretty much go natural light always. Too much production takes you out of the realism. But of course depends on story. Thanks Mark!! You are a guy, man!!!!😊
Thanks brother
while yes, it depends what level you are shooting, the real art of lighting would be to accurately replicate "natural light" (if you are referring to available light that is). We all want it to feel natural most of the times, but a room won't have light continuity if you shoot there for 10h.
no, you go "natural light" cause you have no choice
I see it when you point it out.....but I'm in the dark when watching on my own.
Very cool tips and ideas.
tHanks for the video!
Let me shine a light
this movie was severely underrated
The money it takes to be taken serious is amazing.
Beautiful frames Mark!
That scene looked motivated. Natural.
I paused the video at 1:17 to thank you. I just realized that all that lighting and tools cameras we use is secondary. I have to focus on story
Perfect examples of why I am puzzled by the 'gray everywhere' approach to contemporary lighting that seems so pervasive. It's the opposite of cinematic. It flattens everything.
This sounds like lighting I can achieve. Thank you!
Awesome video. I felt myself focusing on getting my lighting perfect instead of “real” or what fit the project and this was a reminder for me to stick to my guns. Not to have the lighting draw away from the story.
The black and white look really gives it certain feel looks very beautiful
your work its just perfect, i love your content, im working to be able to make this type of things thanks man!
Pufff, I love your light imperfection 🎉 beautifull. Thanks Mark
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks for putting this out Mark! This is super helpful!
Good one Mark. When in doubt ask what's best for the story.
I would definitely watch it in all black and white! Might also help smooth out the unease that I have watching that kind of bodies.
I've been following you for years Mark Bone. This is the most influential video you've made that deeply resonates with me. For far too long, I've been using countless lights to show off my "Hollywood skills." Over the years I've realized that it's just not worth it. There are so many great stories that can be lit with minimal lighting. As you've shown in the video, Ryan Gosselin was barely lit in the scene you referenced. I don't think anyone in the audience and most importantly, it felt right being so poorly lit. Thank you for sharing.
It’s weird I often say my most creative work was when I had little knowledge but lots of imagination and heart.
I still have the heart but my skill level is 14 years stronger and only now I can see that the things that I perceived as amateur actually has something special about it.
Life is weird that way.
Such an incredible movie.
Needed this 💯💯
Now I gotta go watch 'Sound of Metal' again. Once again... great video with great points!
It’s such a great film
The series "House" also used teh imperfect lighting technique.
Great advice!
I loved that film. Nobody else seemed to care for it but I thought it was excellent! it even inspired me to wear earplugs more!
... and at the same time, you have a perfect lighting setup in your office. :)
Know the rules so you know when to break them - RUclips learning video is not one of those times
@@Videofilealways my original comment was a compliment to your skills ...
Know the rules so you know when and how to break them.
Additionally, when there is less gear on set, the actors’s performances are hindered.
"Know the rules so you know when and how to break them. " very good!
@@Videofilealways 💪🏻
Amazing
truly
Took less than 1 minute to earn my like
What was that black wrap?
Hey! I really liked those videos when you reviewed submitted content and gave feedback. It was fun. Just wanted to through in my support for more of that. Have a good day!
:) I should do more
earned yourself a subscribe
Life is imperfect. Perfection feels false. Wabi Sabi
Where's the link for the pitch workshop?
It’ll be available next week around Tuesday when the Black Friday sale begins in Theartofdocumentary.com
Great
grand
Name of the movie from the beginning please?
felt *too* perfect
You used the 4d on this?
for a handful of shots
@ I’d love to see those 😊
Clint Eastwood has been doing this for years.
I remember watching this scene and I forgot it was a story. I as real as life does.
Dad, is that you?
I must consult 23andMe
subtitles please 🙏
i mean the gym shoots kind of still look staged to me because for me maybe looking real is what is near what we usually do but alittle enhanced, so the gym shoots still look staged because I will turn on some indoor lights and would not workout in the dark. But nice shoots tho
Those "cinematic lighting" youtube tutorials always make me laugh.
They never look like anything I've ever actually seen in a cinema
In my opinion...... you should learn the "rules", the basics of how things work and how things "should be done". Then forget about all of that and do what feels right to you and what you're creating.
Yes times infinity.
did you like infinity wars?
@ haven’t seen it. But the sound of metal is one of my favorite films. Greatest sound design ever. :-)
Story, story, story
50 seconds in, the term "Hollywood Cinematographer" completely misses the point you were trying to make - there's nothing "Hollywood" about that shot, that's what makes it good. I'm not trying to argue on semantics, but hopefully, it's food for thought.
i often say while watching films."that looks very lit". Only some know what i really mean ;)
i totally agree. takes me right out... but i work in film so that is our burden when watching
@ yep, its a gift when the movie is great. But a sin when we see something is of.
honest question: are you making artistic choices that are only impressive to other artists? if so, then what about the majority of the audience that wants to see technically perfect... or is it that technically perfect actually isn't so because it is not obeying universals that are technically more important?
dont buy this guys course, its not worth it. this guy knows barely anything about filming, i really doubt his film degree. i have bought the course and very much regret it. also just because some guys rightfully so critique his lighting he makes a 10 min video defending it as stylistic choice, what a fool.
Sent you that footage you would have gone into a long rant of all the things that are wrong with it blah blah blah give it a rest. Your sanctimonious woke ideology.
😂
when did light advice become woke?
It’s bullshit!!! Low budgets and fast turnarounds!!! This is not Beautiful cinematography, it’s like putting lipstick on a pig! That’s not realism it’s sloppy filmmaking. What’s there to set us apart from a student that got the job because he is related to the producer ???
disagree
@ you can disagree all you like , doesn’t change the fact that it’s crap work when it’s done by a nobody and when it’s done by a master it’s seen as art and as intended.
Some students are really good , some established DP,s would set up an 18K cheesey backlight , eye lights, hair lights , fill lights , a 20x20 book light , 5 super troopers 90,s video slash's all over the BG and and a smoke machine, and it could look like shite. The simple point is less can be more . To light to make it look not lit is not sloppy and takes more talent ,it could be argued .
@@35mmdigitalcinemasometimes its most appropriate for the scene if the cinematography is not beautiful, but ugly. If you do not understand this, then you have not watched enough great movies.