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What Christians NEED to Know About Israel-Hamas War
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2023
- Israel is now at war with Hamas, and Christians are responding in various ways. In this video, Todd Friel helps us get a better understanding of modern Israel, and how we should respond to this tragic news.
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Pray also for the Christian Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. We cannot forget them!!
Nor can we forget the radical Islamists themselves. Some are calling for prayer that they would have Damascus Road experiences, amen to that!
As well as those who are innocent of it all!
I don't know if you could call any that? Pray for there salvation to come to Repentance and except Jesus Christ as there saviour and Lord
So good to see someone mention them. Sadly, I've never hear them talked about in American evangelicalism.
@@terrybroussard8373no there is an underground Christian church there in the land of Gaza, I recall someone speaking with the pastor. Didn't look into it much further than that. I think it was on RuslanKD channel
Dear brother Todd, when I first listen to you, many years back, I hesitated….Wretched was so different from what I was used to. Now I’m so thankful I decided to put you to the test of the Scriptures and that the spirit of God helped me to listen without condemnation and prejudice, for you have been such a blessing and influence in helping me understand so many topics, such as the war in Israel. May the Lord Jesus keep blessing your ministry, so you can keep blessing others.❤
This is my first time listening and I am listening with a wise and discerning heart... I try to remove my self emotionally from the situation and look at it as an outsider looking in and I look for consistency, sincerity, and read body language... I know that I dont trust any mainstream media. I would hope that I was guided here not by mistake. I feel like things are revealed to me in its proper time. I've known things before it was made known socially, by the discernment and wisdom granted to me by something higher than me. It seems to me we truly are at at precipice in this time. I know that it's all already written and we are all just visitors....
"There's something bigger going on than just war." ... Always.
Here is The Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER (Genesis 1) HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
A complicated subject indeed, but I think the New Testament is pretty explicit that Christ and his Church (comprised of Jewish and Gentile believers) is the true Israel of God, not one particular ethnicity or nationality of people (Ephesian 2:15-16, 1 Peter 2:9-10), and that "Christians" (Jews or Gentiles who repent and trust in Christ alone for forgiveness) are the true sons of Abraham who inherit (through faith, not ethnicity) all the promises that God proclaimed to Abraham (Galatians 3:7-9). So the issue isn't how God "transferred" the promises to the Church, but how God revealed, in Christ, who the promises were truly meant for to begin with.
There is still a plan for Israel, whether that is a plan that is good towards us or a plan that will cause hostilities towards us. We cannot be for sure whether Israel will become a good nation or not. If God did not have a plan for Israel, it would not need to be rebuilt.
The return of Lord Jesus Christ will be in Israel in Jerusalem and not in San Francisco Ca., He will have His Throne set up in Jerusalem, Israel for the 1000 years.
Kudos to Todd for while holding to his own belief, not throwing shade towards the other side. I always learn something from Todd's videos and I appreciate Wretched for explaining these hard to understand concepts in an easy to understand way.
To me, the fact he spent a good minute and a half referencing well-known believers who held to his line of interpretation in this debacle tells me that he was discounting the other side. It felt almost boastful in his interpretation.
I believe God has a future plan for Israel specifically before the Millennial reign, but the constant reminding us of believers who agree with him didn't sit right for me.
@@time_for_toast4922 You could also quote many who are on your team if that makes you feel any better? I think you're sore because you're a supercessionist and while that's an orthodox position, it's still the wrong one. God hasn't forgotten His promises.
@@AfricanSheepBut time_for_toast's statement of belief in a future for Israel in Millennial reign by definition is a non-supercessionist belief, so not sure s/he is on "the other team" at all. Rather, I think it is something else that is the source of the "rub" here.
@@AfricanSheep Romans 9:6-8 LSB
[6] But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; [7] nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s seed, but: “through Isaac your seed will be named.” [8] That is, the children of the flesh are not the children of God, but the children of the promise are considered as seed.
He mistreated John Calvin who does not support this
Please watch this video
How does Reformed theology view the future of Israel compared to dispensationalism?
I am a follower of Christ. During this and any war between anyone needs prayer on both sides. The Bible says pray for peace in Jerusalem, yes and not just in times of war but always. The Bible also says to pray for your enemies and love thy neighbor as you love thyself. I stand with GOD and I pray for the world and peace in the world not just one or any specific nation. Stand with GOD, pray for the world. Peace, grace and HIS mercy.
I get what you’re trying to say brother. But remember, apart from Christ there is no peace. And anything apart from Christ that seems to have peace is only perceived; It isn’t real. This is why we must proclaim the gospel to all the nations. This is why, witnessing, and sharing our faith is so important. Yes, we are to pray for the will of God to be done on a daily basis. But we must also obey Him & follow His commands and He tells us to first disciple our families, our wives, & our children. And all throughout our communities.
@@Apostle734 Show me the scripture where Jesus says to discipline the communities? I don't want to hear from Solomon in proverbs; just Jesus.
You claim we are to follow Jesus commands but you are breaking the two most important_
Love your enemy and love God above all.
Why are you ignoring those commands?
@@lozferris1719
18 And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." (Matthew 28:18-20, ESV)
@@simuljustusetpeccator5547 See how He says "observe all I have commanded you"; What did Jesus say the two most important commands were?
@lozferris1719 what are you saying? love others without sharing the Gospel? How else will they be saved from the wrath that is coming?
Very impressed by your humility and spirit of gentleness towards all the saints. God bless you
Ill pray for Israel and Palestine but ALL in Gods Sovereignty ❤
That's what we of Christian we should do, pray for both. As Todd say, we can't take sides. We must pray for each party.
No sovereign Arab nation called Palestine ever existed never not ones ever
Hmm, Palestine is israel. It was simply renamed by a Roman emperor that hated the Jews. So he chose the name of their long-time enemy, the philistines. If you meant we should be praying that all sides come to faith in Christ, I sure agree with that!
@@RaptureReadyPam I'll pray for both parties
@@anovino1992 jesus is Palestine. Israel is European zionist colonizers.
You can believe that God has a future plan for many Israelites to come to faith - a revival in Israel - and still adhere to the understanding that there ARE NOT TWO DISTINCT PEOPLE OF GOD. We are all one in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek...
This is where most if not all of your quoted men ofGod were coming from.
Simon,
Finish the quote....there is neither male nor female...
So you would say that today we have no gender?
@@geordiewishart1683 no one with any seriousness would suggest that this is denying human sexuality and gender. Neither does it deny that there are different roles for men and women in the world. But it does underline that all are equal and United as one in the eyes of God. There is no division, no separation, no apartheid within the children of God.
Perfectly said! That is what I call a Spirit led response to this chaos. Amen ❤️🩹
Amen! Thank you for this rightly divided explanation offered with love. God always keeps his promises. My heart is broken for Israel, but I take comfort in knowing that God will restore Israel as promised.
I would be careful with any point of view espoused from @Wretched as the problem with Todd is he believes in cessation which is an incorrect reading of scripture.
Read the Bible. What is Israel?
I guarantee it's not these liars. Calling themselves Israel. They're the spiritual descendants of the Jews of Jesus' day. I'll give you that.
@@Netgazum They got their own version of reverse replacement theology. Which was prepared in the 19th century and kicked off since the middle of the 20th. People still looking for a carnal chosen people. Ignoring that it is the spiritual one that matters.
@@Netgazum
Amen!
Disagree - @@Netgazum Free will. I'll pass on your cautionary warning.
The redemption and re-gathering of the Jews back to the promised land starts in unbelief, but will end in belief and their trust in Jesus, who they will come to believe as their long awaited Messiah.
God made a promise to Israel as his children. He always keeps his promise.
Exactly and Our God keeps his promises🙏🏻. Cuz hes not like man that he changes his mind.
God made promises to, and about, the literal seed and descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
But are their descendants to be found in modern Jewry?
Jew is a clumsy word.
When you see that word in the bible, it can either mean a true Israelite, a true Judahite, someone from the Roman province of Judea regardless of race and ethnicity, or a follower of Judaism.
Secular and biblical history tells us that Judah was taken into captivity and exile by Babylon.
Whilst there, they race mixed and their Hebrew faith became corrupted into what today is known as Judaism. It was in Babylon that the Talmud began.
Judah, along with her now mixed throng of people, and her corrupted religion, returned to where her kingdom had been.
Between the testaments, Maccabee leader John Hyrcanus forcibly converted Edomites to practice Judaism and they became Jews.
Edomites are descended from Esau and were to be enemies of true Israel.
In Jesus time, the ruling class such as King Herod, and the Pharisees were Edomites.
No wonder Jesus argued with them and said they didn't listen to him as they were not of his flock.
Later, the Asiatic Khazar kingdom converted en masse to Judaism.
So now we have many Jews claiming land promised to the descendants of Jacob Israel but who themselves are not so descended.
Their only claim is to practice a religion which is a corruption of the faith of Moses.
So be careful about who you support in the middle East, and why.
Where does the Bible say your first paragraph? Do you even know history well enough to track who actually live in Israel now? Do you realize that the Genesis 12:7 promise to Abraham was made to Christ as the single seed of the heir of the promise, as Galatians 3:16 says? And by extension, Christians, as Galatians 3:29 says?
Christians have a right to the land. The land is 98% judaist, atheist, and muslim. Those there now do most certainly NOT have a right to the land, despite what their geneology says, as 1 Timothy 1:4 explains to avoid meaningless geneologies [because the new covenant is here], as it was about geneologies before the new covenant.
Shed this false zionist belief that is pervading Christianity, seek the truth.
@@astronacht "Where does the bible say your first paragraph?"
In Zechariah 10.
It speaks of the scattering of the Jews amongst the nations, and their regathering.
Also in Jeremiah 29 which again is another prophecy of the scattering and re-gathering of the Jews.
Finally in Romans 11: 11-32 which talks about the differences between the Jews and the Gentile believers - that the Gentiles have been grafted into the Kingdom of God through Christ, and that Israel has had their hearts hardened against God. In the last days they will be redeemed.
You say it is a false zionist belief, but it is not false whatsoever. The fact that biblical prophecy about the Jews is unfolding before our very eyes shows that the scriptures which speak of their regathering are very much applicable to Israel of today, proving God's promise to them still stands.
28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
@@astronacht To add onto Romans 11 - it is important to read the full passage in context to understand that Paul is making a distinction between the "natural branches" (the Jews) and the "wild branches" which are grafted in - the gentile Christians.
Romans 11 goes on to say that the "natural branches" are cut off for their unbelief, and the wild branches are grafted in instead. This is the description of the unbelief of the Jews and the belief of the Christians.
The idea you have is replacement theology, the idea that Christians have "replaced" the Jews as the children of God, and the heirs to the promise.
But this is a false theology, we haven't replaced the Jews, we have been "grafted in" as His people, but the Jews themselves have been cut off - *for a time* and will be brought back to repentance and belief in the Messiah towards the end of days as it says in Romans 11: 21 - 24
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
The issue I have is some non-supersessionist seem to not pursue evangelizing the Jewish people because they say they will be saved one day. That is a dangerous position, they need faith in Jesus just like everyone else.
Yes maybe thats why the Christians are fleeing Israel instead of staying to share the Gospel in their time of desperate need which has shocked me. 🙏
Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life
Eternal Salvation
Genesis 12:7 KJV
[7] And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Galatians 3:16 KJV
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Christ owns the land, not the jews. And Christians of every ethnicity by extension.
As the olive tree parable explains, Gentiles were grafted to the olive tree that is Christ; there are Jewish and gentile Christians the promise was made to, no judaist is a part of any promise anywhere, there is no plan for them except to come to Christ to avoid being one of the broken off branches. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT GENEOLOGY.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Hamas was created by MOSSAD intelligence after they removed the legitimate resistance in the 80s, the PLO, out of power, to have a puppet boogeyman as part of hegelian dialectic in order to justify illegal land expansion in public opinion, in the exact same way the CIA created AL Qaeda and ISIS to justify invading the middle east for their goals [also hegelian dialectic, Google the term if you don't know what it means].
This goes very deep and every point has evidence and proof behind it, only people who are blindly not researching and naysaying because "they 'heard' or were 'taught' different" deny it. This is the truth.
Israel in the NT are Christians, the church, of both jew and gentile. Those who are not, are the broken off branches of the olive tree that Gentiles were grafted into.
There is no reason God would include atheist and judaist ethnic jews into any promise made to the faithful when they reject Christ. It does not make sense. Believing He would is a hop skip and jump away to a teaching Christ specifically rebuked, that was the belief that the jews thought they were saved and good because they were jews. This is why 1 Timothy 1:4 exists.
Thank you for stating all this. I'm of the belief that Israel's standing and purpose has not changed and they still have a role to fill in these last days. The Church has it's own purpose but the Church age is quickly coming to a close.
Yes! Paul, in his letter to the Romans, warned us not to be arrogant towards Israel but instead fear in how they have been hardened partially for our sake. And definitely still a part of God's plan for after the full number of the Gentiles come in so will all Israel be saved and then comes the resurrection from the dead!
Amein! i don't think replacement theology is right. i do think all nations have been blessed by Christ though and that fulfills that promise but i do believe he will bring Israel to himself. i attend a messianic Jewish congregation and to see Jewish believers in Jesus with gentile believers praising YHWH is truly beautiful
💯
Attention all believers, please read Roman's 11:22
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
@@mdproulx3028Amen! You must endure until the end!
Dear Mr. Friel, this should be the first in a series of reflections on the topic. This was a superb introduction! Maybe a couple more videos exploring how God still has a plan for Israel and how Israel as a nation has been a blessing and a light to all nations?
“If you belong to Christ then you are Abraham’s seed and heir according to the promise.” I believe that verse tells the story of Israel.
We are adopted sons grafted into the branch but there are also the true tribes of Israel coming down from the lineage of Abraham and they are not forgotten and the 144,000 will be 12,000 from each of those 12 tribes of Jacob and sealed by God for their work during the end times witnessing and warning Israel and others after the Rapture of the Church. (Not all that say they are Jews are true and not all that say they are the Church are either).
Amen 🙏🏻
Genesis 12:7 KJV
[7] And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Galatians 3:16 KJV
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Christ owns the land, not the jews. And Christians of every ethnicity by extension.
As the olive tree parable explains, Gentiles were grafted to the olive tree that is Christ; there are Jewish and gentile Christians the promise was made to, no judaist is a part of any promise anywhere, there is no plan for them except to come to Christ to avoid being one of the broken off branches. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT GENEOLOGY.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Hamas was created by MOSSAD intelligence after they removed the legitimate resistance in the 80s, the PLO, out of power, to have a puppet boogeyman as part of hegelian dialectic in order to justify illegal land expansion in public opinion, in the exact same way the CIA created AL Qaeda and ISIS to justify invading the middle east for their goals [also hegelian dialectic, Google the term if you don't know what it means].
This goes very deep and every point has evidence and proof behind it, only people who are blindly not researching and naysaying because "they 'heard' or were 'taught' different" deny it. This is the truth.
@@myrtleesther8855 . So it will take God to figure out who is the lineage of Abraham after all this time and history?
and if not you arent in line for Gods promise?
Amen.
As a Christian, I believe Israel still has a role to play....that being said, take the Bible out of it, take religion out of it.....a sovereign nation has every right to defend itself against threats and actions of war from terrorists. Israel, no matter where they stand with God, has every right to defend herself.
And same with Palestine
We as Christians should never take the Bible out of anything. We should always regard a situation in light of the Holy Bible my brother.
@TJCombo2 yes, I agree but was making a point from a secular POV.
@@disguisedcentennial835 Its one thing to strike military points of interest.
Its an entirely different position when you actively kidnap innocent men, women and children, and indiscriminately strike innocent suburban and urban environments with extreme prejudice, and with the intent of mass artillery barrages to overwhelm said Iron Dome defensive systems with the intent to cause massive civilian casualties...
If they had a point, they lost it because, again, as we American troops were always told that "Don't do what they do, lest you become like them", it seems that Hamas and other such organizations are allowed to do whatever they want, because some preconceived notion that the wrongs committed allows them to be incredibly evil. As if its justice.
We pray for the Gaza Strip, and the innocents caught in the mix of this, but Hamas is hardly "defending" itself. Its an active provocateur that constantly pokes the bear and then cries when the bear growls back.
So do the Palestinians, Christians amongst the Palestinians are that most affected since both Jews and Moslems hate them.
"You have to make a case...biblically." Agreed, brother. So many people begin their arguments with, "Well, I believe ...." and never quote scriptures.
Where does John MacArthur fall into the spectrum on this issue?
Glad to see that Christians are at least starting to have this conversation. As a Christian, my understanding is that I should pray for peace and the salvation of people on both sides… Where do I stand on the issue? I’m not picking a side when both groups view Christians as subhumans and believe that it’s OK to hate one another to the point of one group calling for the genocide of the other.
I pray for peace and their salvation, but I’m not about to send my son to die for either.
Prior to recent events, Jewish Christians in Israel were facing opposition that would make it hard to openly speak about the gospel. "So Be It" is a YT channel whose Jewish hosts were doing street evangelism inside Israel.
In my view the many trees of eschatological thought get in the way of seeing the forest.
This was so well said.. as usual Todd 🙏🏻
Hey God bless u brother 🙏🏻. And btw i luv your vids! But yes, pray for Israel
May God bless and keep you
@@Souls_25 I appreciate you! God bless you 🤗
@@tamararivera7312 May God bless you and keep you as well!
Perhaps your most provocative and interesting post up in a while and I LOVED the "dictionary" pauses fwiw....gold.
Very well explained, Todd!
Brethren, may we all fervently read our whole Bible - from cover to cover, over and over again, and pray that the Holy Spirit opens our eyes and takes away all our presuppositions.
Amen
And AMEN!
No sorry, ancient Israel fulfilled bible prophecy by having Jesus killed, modern day Israel is a shadow of its self from when it had everything and the blessings of God under king Solomon. They are a democracy now, and as a nation never even mention Jesus christ! Obviously it is a spiritual Israel now, the fledgling Christian congregation after Jesus's death was also prosecuted by the Jewish rulers right up till the final destruction of Jerusalem in the first century
Here you go
Genesis 12:7 KJV
[7] And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Galatians 3:16 KJV
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Christ owns the land, not the jews. And Christians of every ethnicity by extension.
As the olive tree parable explains, Gentiles were grafted to the olive tree that is Christ; there are Jewish and gentile Christians the promise was made to, no judaist is a part of any promise anywhere, there is no plan for them except to come to Christ to avoid being one of the broken off branches. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT GENEOLOGY.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Hamas was created by MOSSAD intelligence after they removed the legitimate resistance in the 80s, the PLO, out of power, to have a puppet boogeyman as part of hegelian dialectic in order to justify illegal land expansion in public opinion, in the exact same way the CIA created AL Qaeda and ISIS to justify invading the middle east for their goals [also hegelian dialectic, Google the term if you don't know what it means].
This goes very deep and every point has evidence and proof behind it, only people who are blindly not researching and naysaying because "they 'heard' or were 'taught' different" deny it. This is the truth.
I'm not a pre-trib dispensationalist, and I wholeheartedly agree with what you said in this video. It is unity-provoking in the body of Christ, without demanding that we all believe the exact same thing. Well done, brother. Thank you. May God have mercy on us all!
The thing is that some people insist on pushing things that are fundamentally false as truth everyone should believe. Pretribbing is one.
A worse one is the "Jews are the chosen people" canard.
ya cant have unity without the same beliefs
@@frankjames1955 I do believe that you can have unity without having the same beliefs in secondary or tertiary doctrines (doctrines that one's salvation is not dependant upon). I believe this because we can true, loving fellowship in the Lord, even now if we humble ourselves and realize that we all see in part and know in part, having not yet seen God face to face, which is when we will know Him perfectly. We can have unity in Christ, while not yet having all the doctrines of God's truth perfectly figured out. This is what I believe, as it provokes both honest humility and genuine love.
I struggle to believe the modern day Jews are the Jews of the OT.
The ancient Jews followed the Torah. Israel was a name. Israel was created as a nation/state in 1948. These are Talmud Jews. They have rejected Christ. The Rothchilds created Israel.
Romans 11. It's pretty much all you need to understand. Israel is under a partial hardening, and tho cut off will be grafted back in to their own Olive tree.
How many millennium do you think that would take? Especially considering modern day state of Israel is a false Israel established by the evil rothschild banking family as the balfour declaration clearly says.
Todd, this is why I enjoy your channel so much. You explain things well and approach topics of disagreement with humility and love. Best of all, it comes from the Scriptures and always brings glory to God!
Is modern day Israel the same as the biblical Israel? Would Moses and Abraham approve of today’s modern day Israel?
I asked a learned friend the other day - does Gods promise to Abraham extend to modern Jews, considering time and the factor that very few could actually claim to be descendants of Abraham?
@@standupstraight9691 Hiya Standupstraight, you are so right, the Palestinians have more of the ancient DNA of the area than diaspora jews - who are mostly atheist~! The whole Israel Hamas war, besides being the 5th seal of the Revelation, is about setting up a canal to rival the suez with new railway and port, all of which end in Gaza, and the new gas field,, just off of Gaza
So terribly sad to see the initial attack and now ongoing conflict. So many peoples lives shattered, devastated. Jesus come quickly.
I met someone who was pastoring Palestinian Christians. His stories are heart wrenching and sobering about how even the Christian world has forsaken them. Taking binary stance of whose side are we on serves no purpose here. Should we be for Israel? Should we be against Palestinians? Even the captain of the Army of the Lord would not take a stand when asked by Joshua. Some might say, they are standing with God, and that could be presumptuous. Would God not love even those who slayed his son? If anyone insist the enemies are beyond redemption, then so is everyone else. Historically, wars against ancient Israel typically signifies judgment from God to turn her heart back to Him. The manner Israel treated Palestinians is not exactly the most honorable even taking the most optimistic observations.
God made promises to, and about, the literal seed and descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
But are their descendants to be found in modern Jewry?
Jew is a clumsy word.
When you see that word in the bible, it can either mean a true Israelite, a true Judahite, someone from the Roman province of Judea regardless of race and ethnicity, or a follower of Judaism.
Secular and biblical history tells us that Judah was taken into captivity and exile by Babylon.
Whilst there, they race mixed and their Hebrew faith became corrupted into what today is known as Judaism. It was in Babylon that the Talmud began.
Judah, along with her now mixed throng of people, and her corrupted religion, returned to where her kingdom had been.
Between the testaments, Maccabee leader John Hyrcanus forcibly converted Edomites to practice Judaism and they became Jews.
Edomites are descended from Esau and were to be enemies of true Israel.
In Jesus time, the ruling class such as King Herod, and the Pharisees were Edomites.
No wonder Jesus argued with them and said they didn't listen to him as they were not of his flock.
Later, the Asiatic Khazar kingdom converted en masse to Judaism.
So now we have many Jews claiming land promised to the descendants of Jacob Israel but who themselves are not so descended.
Their only claim is to practice a religion which is a corruption of the faith of Moses.
So be careful about who you support in the middle East, and why.
Yeah you got to separate the Palestinians from the Iranian terrorists Hamas. They are being used as human sheilds by Hamas.
"Palestinians" is a misnomer. They are mostly Arab Christians, and many of them define themselves as Aramean Christians. They are victims of the vile ideology that some have the gall to call "the Religion Of Peace".. Don't be fooled.
Agree I only simp for christians, the jews have shown to bite the hand that feeds far too often
@@geordiewishart1683this is nonsensical. If Jesus cares about racial purity he wouldn't have consorted with the Samaritan woman, as Samaritans were mixed with Assyrians and other levantene people. This is not to mention the Apostle Paul talking about how under Christ, there shall be no more jew or gentile.
This obsession with blood purity is something that is uniquely North American; far from God and Christianity
I'm more of a Supersessionist but not the hard-ones that think there is no hope for the Jews, but that they will come to faith in Jesus Christ.
My issue is usually when people say I have to support the political nation of Israel and especially if this nation is fulfilling prophesies that I think were fulfilled in Jesus.
I'm not the most learned on this and still looking into it rn cause of my renewed interest over this debate
This exactly. There's hope for everyone in Christ.
Genesis 12:7 KJV
[7] And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Galatians 3:16 KJV
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Christ owns the land, not the jews. And Christians of every ethnicity by extension.
As the olive tree parable explains, Gentiles were grafted to the olive tree that is Christ; there are Jewish and gentile Christians the promise was made to, no judaist is a part of any promise anywhere, there is no plan for them except to come to Christ to avoid being one of the broken off branches. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT GENEOLOGY.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Hamas was created by MOSSAD intelligence after they removed the legitimate resistance in the 80s, the PLO, out of power, to have a puppet boogeyman as part of hegelian dialectic in order to justify illegal land expansion in public opinion, in the exact same way the CIA created AL Qaeda and ISIS to justify invading the middle east for their goals [also hegelian dialectic, Google the term if you don't know what it means].
This goes very deep and every point has evidence and proof behind it, only people who are blindly not researching and naysaying because "they 'heard' or were 'taught' different" deny it. This is the truth.
Israel in the NT are Christians, the church, of both jew and gentile. Those who are not, are the broken off branches of the olive tree that Gentiles were grafted into.
There is no reason God would include atheist and judaist ethnic jews into any promise made to the faithful when they reject Christ. It does not make sense. Believing He would is a hop skip and jump away to a teaching Christ specifically rebuked, that was the belief that the jews thought they were saved and good because they were jews. This is why 1 Timothy 1:4 exists.
Thanks for the definition pauses. Very helpful!
The idea that Jewish people would eventually accept Christ is not new. The idea that there is salvation without Christ in the nation of Israel is a modern idea, and I would argue not a Christian one.
I love the pauses for definitions. Great addition!
So much evil. 😢 Beheading babies is evil. Raping old women is evil. Murdering "innocents" is evil. Pray for those enduring this horror, and for those deceived into performing evil acts ... that all may reject evil and come to the Love of God through Jesus Christ our Lord & Savior.
God looks and judges what is on our insides, our souls and not our race.
Thank you for the definitions, helps so much!❤
A supersessionist would have to say that it was completely coincidence that Israel exists today... to which I would say "God doesn't believe in coincidences."
No one says it's a coincidence. It's part of a long history of political planning by Jews in Europe. You can look at the history of the Zionist movement and see how they got the support of the British government to begin settlement. You can see that the British government told the Arabs that it wouldn't happen, and then did it anyway. It's all politics, not prophecy. The returns to Israel mentioned in the Old Testament already happened. Ezekiel's message was for the Jews of his time, who were in captivity in Babylon. It has nothing to do with modern Jews.
This was approached with much more humility than I've grown accustomed to seeing. Well done. It is a shame it often takes tragedies to bring sobriety, but that is a constant in human history.
Absolutely - I think God’s love of Israel and His perseverance every time despite their falling away is enough to reveal the Lord’s heart for them. He has always sought their eventual redemption and we have a God who is unchanging and ultimately will continue to do so as prophesied.
That happened until the NT when every man on the planet was called to believe. We see no mention of that in the NT. The new covenant is here; the old waned and waxed away. The difference is, after the crucifixion, every Christian was made part of the promise. This is so obvious in scripture to figure out if you look objectively.
AMEN WE PRAY FOR THE ISRAELITES AND CHRISTIANS BOTH IRANIAN , PALESTINIAN , BLESS THE LORD FOR HIS GOODNESS AND KINDNESS IN JESUS CHRISTS MIGHTY NAME , AMEN , AMEN , AMEN , ALLELUIA , ALLELUIA , ALLELUIA !!! ...
It seems to me thst scripture doesn't remove Israel but rather adds the followers of Christ to the fold.
Israel is still relevant and nowhere does the Bible do away with God's promises to them.
🤦🏾♂️ so there’s a caveat for Christ rejectors?
Todd, thank you, thank you, thank you for this most balanced, loving, and careful discussion of the two (generally speaking) "camps," and the need to truly consider that there is indeed something larger going on in Israel right now (though we may only see through that glass dimly, too). I am a Jewish Christian, so I don't excuse the fact that my heart is breaking very much for my "kinsmen according to the flesh" right now. But regardless of that, it has truly saddened (and, I'll admit, angered) me to see and hear of some responses from those who claim faith in the Jewish Messiah either being dismissive and downright hateful in their response to the plight of Israel and her murdered ones or seeing this as an opportunity to "dunk" on those "dastardly dispensationalists." Would that God would grant more voices like your own on this issue. I thank you and love you, my brother, and pray that the bloodshed stops and that the Gospel of Christ is made all the more clear to Jews and Arabs in the land, even now, for this indeed remains the only true hope and peace, for He is the Prince of both!
All I need to know is that my God is in control.
Thank you for this need clarification to the Church, I was saved by a Jewish believing pastor, and have held tightly to Genisis.12:3, "I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”" I will go with the blessing and not the curse!
Thank you for your humble and thorough analysis. I humbly admit, at this time I agree with your position. God help us to rightly discern, but do all in love to our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. In many things we will not fully know until we are fully known.🙏🏻🙌🏻
I'm just glad to be a part of the end times, as the Bible says Luke 21:28
Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
it's been near for 2000 years.
If you are in Christ, you will be looking down to see the fulfillment of those words of Jesus. Jesus said these words to the remaining Jews at the end of the Great Tribulation. When Israel looks up to see their redemption coming, They will see Christ coming in the clouds followed by Myriads of Angels and the multitudes of Saints. We will be coming with our Lord in Glory to witness the redemption of the Remnant of Israel! Oh what a Glorious Day that will be!!! Thank you for sharing this wonderful prophecy!
@@clayweir9020This is an example of apocalyptic writing frequently employed in the OT to depict the end of empires. It was never literal
@@clayweir9020my friend, if you read Matt 24:29-31 I think you will agree that this is describing what you are writing about. But notice in verse 31 there is a “loud trumpet call”. Now consider the words of Paul to the Corinthians in 1 Cor 15:50-54 which describes the rapture of the saints and notice that this happens at “THE LAST trumpet”.
Scripture does not lie, but we so often misread it.
@@toolegittoquit_001 I reject your premise and your position completely. Jesus was not allegorizing or telling a parable here. This is prophecy of His return. Scripture interprets Scripture. If you want the Old Testament interpretation, it is found in Zechariah 14 starting in verse 1.
What a grave error it is to allegorize the Return of Christ which is echoed all throughout His Word.
I think it's important to realize that both 'sides' comprise Christians...
"Our hearts should be broken for the nation of Israel 🇮🇱!!!" Amen brother! Our hearts tell us more about our walk with Jesus Christ than anything else, whether we are truly walking the Scriptures we say we believe! Especially with respect to Israel 🇮🇱!!!
Wake up! Your hearts should be broken for all the lives that are lost as a result of your allegiance to Israel as opposed to Christ.
I am praying 🙏 for the Palestinians and Gaza as well as Israel! May all be saved in Jesus Christ!!!
What about your palestinian brothers?
@@Louwe77 Praying for them definitely 🙏
Pray for all the people involved
I really appreciate this video. I have tried to seek knowledge all week about how to feel and discern these events. Most appreciative of the charity and tone provided by Todd towards those that may have other views.
As a Christian, reaching out to Christ to know how to feel and discern these events would have been proper rather than looking to some flesh and blood instruction on YT. Won't Jesus be faithful to instruct through His Spirit as He promised?
We have been grafted into Israel.
Exactly brother. But never forget to pray for the salvation of the jews and whole Israel. God will bring em back one way or a other ☝🏻🙏🏻
Have you ever heard of the parable of the Olive Tree?
As an amateur gardener, I really appreciate the use of plant analogies in the bible. Also, too, as an amateur lepidopterist, I love all the moth references in the bible😊
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again….
Romans 9:6 - But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel,
You all in the comments section aren’t realizing he didn’t actually explain his reasoning for his position. I wish he would’ve gone through scripture to explain this better. All we have here is an explanation of terms. Don’t get me wrong that’s good housekeeping before having the discussion. A part 2 to this video would be great because I’d like to hear it.
*But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you* - Yet, most of what I am hearing is the following:
1. Condemn Hamas
2. There are no innocent Palestinians
3. Pray for Israel
Something about this isn't right.
Will you go to Heaven when you die? Have you lied, stolen, used God’s name in vain, or lusted (which Jesus said was adultery, Mt. 5:28)? If so, God sees you as a liar, thief, blasphemer, and adulterer at heart. If you die in your sins, you will end up in a terrible place called Hell. But there's good news. Though we broke God's Law, Jesus paid the fine by dying on the cross: "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life" (Jn. 3:16). Then Jesus rose from the dead and was seen by hundreds of eyewitnesses. He fulfilled all the prophecies of the promised Savior. Please, today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will forgive you and grant you the gift of eternal life (Eph. 2:8,9). Then, to show your gratitude, read the Bible daily and obey it, join a Christian church, and be baptized.
Dont mind me im just sharing the gospel
Great presentation of the different positions that has helped quite a few brothers and sisters understand them!
Thank you Brother Todd for this thought provoking video. I do not fully comprehend all the terms but I do believe that Israel has been set apart by God and we too have been set apart. Thus, whatever is happening, it's all God's plan. I live in Singapore and so many Christians in my country think it's the sign of end times. My personal view from observing the recent years and the truths of bible, this war is God's judgement...😢
Genesis 12:7 KJV
[7] And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
Galatians 3:16 KJV
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Christ owns the land, not the jews. And Christians of every ethnicity by extension.
As the olive tree parable explains, Gentiles were grafted to the olive tree that is Christ; there are Jewish and gentile Christians the promise was made to, no judaist is a part of any promise anywhere, there is no plan for them except to come to Christ to avoid being one of the broken off branches. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT GENEOLOGY.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
Hamas was created by MOSSAD intelligence after they removed the legitimate resistance in the 80s, the PLO, out of power, to have a puppet boogeyman as part of hegelian dialectic in order to justify illegal land expansion in public opinion, in the exact same way the CIA created AL Qaeda and ISIS to justify invading the middle east for their goals [also hegelian dialectic, Google the term if you don't know what it means].
This goes very deep and every point has evidence and proof behind it, only people who are blindly not researching and naysaying because "they 'heard' or were 'taught' different" deny it. This is the truth.
I’m so glad you said that, “our hearts should be broken for Israel.” Mine definitely is. They are the apple of our Father’s eye. Why would it not break our hearts? I’ve had someone look at me as if I’m crazy when I said “it breaks my heart.” It feels so good to see other Christians broken over this.
Thank you Todd, this is so good teaching, and so important - thank you - and may God continue to give you wisdom and courage, as He uses you to bless others ❤🙏
Prayers for the children on both sides. ❤
Romans 11 in totality but more specifically verses 25-27 speak clearly on this issue.
Galations 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. We are a new creation... ONE new creation.. ONE new man. Thre is no distinction. nowt now after the work of the Lord on the Cross.
Amen!
There's soooo much to learn in the Bible. I was trying to go deeper into other subjects and put off end times as it seemed hopelessly complex with all perspectives. Then, when covid hit (2020), I suddenly found I had lots of time to research, and learn from solid Bible Teachers... all of whom taught pre trib rapture and dispensations (which was a HUGE help in being able to sort everything out!) By the Holy Spirit, it eventually all began to make perfect sense. God WANTS us to know so we won't be afraid and so that we'll know what's coming and thus be prepared. And to stay focused on the glorious way it will end!
Very excellent short dissertation on what are arguably difficult points!
Rumors of wars and catastrophe should not distract Christians from their goal in Christ Jesus.
God will curse those who curse and bless those who bless Israel. Enough for me.
Orthodoxy forever ☦️💗 pray for peace, amen. 🙏🏽
More orthodox Christians live in Palestine than Israel.
When cessationist say what Christians should know… I imagine they are going to say “be assured there will be no healing, or prophecy on the ground “
Hebrews 8:11 None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them.
There is a difference in believing a revival under the Jews than believing in a “plan” for Israel as a nation à lá the Old Testament. I hear of this “plan” for Isreal but nobody says what it is.
I personally also believe and pray for a revival amongst them.
That's what I believe.
It's called the 7 year Tribulation.
Jacob’s Trouble, The Great Tribulation. The Hour of Testing
All refer to the plan for God to redeem the Remnant of Israel (there’s always a remnant) from the Wrath that is to come.
“In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time a remnant according to God’s gracious choice.”
Romans 11:5 NASB1995
“What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened;”
Romans 11:7 NASB1995
Also, read Zechariah 14
@@clayweir9020And what about the remnant always being the elect believers out of a group? The Jews who are believers in Christ EVEN today are part of the remnant!
@@Puma5 Yep! In fact, the first group of believers in the ushering in of the Church were all ethnic Jew, right! 😉
Amen! May God's will be done here on earth as it is in Heaven.
Yes indeed, I do believe that the Word of God reveals that in the very last of days God has a plan and that a remnant of Israel will be saved and say "blessed is HE who comes in the name of the LORD!" AMEN!
Yes we'll pray for Israel and for innocent Palestines. Let us not forget to pray for ourselves since we don't know when are we going to die and obviously we don't want to die without Jesus Christ. ✝️🙏🏻
Abraham wasn't a "Jew", he was pagan, was called out by the Father from the land of UR (of the Chaldees). A Jew by genetics is of the Tribe of Judah, 1 of 12 tribes that made up the people called Israel.
The promised land was promised to Abram and his offspring, not the "Jews", and the Renewed Covenant ("New Testament") states that all who believe in and obey Messiah's commandments are grafted in to the natural branch (Israel). "Israel of Yah".
Amen!
Where does the tribe of Judah come from?
No one know😎
@@Heavenseventeen It's ONE of TWELVE tribes that make up the scattered PEOPLE of Israel.
@@andywong9847 The tribe of Judah are descendants of Judah, one of Jacob's older sons.
How long shall the wicked, O LORD,
How long shall the wicked exult?
They pour forth words, they speak arrogantly;
All who do wickedness vaunt themselves.
They crush Your people, O LORD,
And afflict Your heritage.
They slay the widow and the stranger
And murder the orphans.
They have said, “The LORD does not see,
Nor does the God of Jacob pay heed.”
- Psalm 94:3-7
For the LORD will not abandon His people,
Nor will He forsake His inheritance.
For judgment will again be righteous,
And all the upright in heart will follow it.
Who will stand up for me against evildoers?
Who will take his stand for me against those who do wickedness?
- Psalm 94:14-16
If the Bible is your absolute authority, there is no confusion. If you are one of these people who second guess the Bible and say it's not relevant or "what it REALLY means is this...", confusion abounds. As for this, I say good luck. The Bible is my absolute authority and God's promises to Israel are true and cannot be revoked. Everything happening in Israel has been long foretold and MUST come to pass, for Israel's sake.
I wish more professing Christians were as charitable about these things as Todd portrays. There are intelligent men (most with Doctorates) who come to vastly different conclusions on these matters taken from the same Bible. What grieves me is the utter contempt some Christians have for each other if they differ
Well done. I am in the "other" camp than Todd on this one, but we are all one body.
Hellenistic Jews like Jesus, who adopted the culture did not lose their Semitic identity or native tongue.
Torah observant Jews have retained their Semitic identity.
@@waitstill7091 who cares? It's the bloodline that counts if you didn't notice all the "begats" in the Bible.
@@darthbigred22Not simply the bloodline but the children of faith. Believing in God has always been what counts.
@@darthbigred22 It's about His chosen people Israel, remaining faithful to the covenant by obeying the laws of Moses.
5And now, if you obey Me and keep My covenant, you shall be to Me a treasure out of all peoples, for Mine is the entire earth.6And you shall be to Me a kingdom of princes and a holy nation.' These are the words that you shall speak to the children of Israel." Exodus 19:5-6
@@Puma5 Justification by faith alone is Paul's doctrine, and not it the Jewish bible.
Here we see righteousness is found when observing God's laws.
25And it will be for our merit that we keep to observe all these commandments before the Lord, our God, as He has commanded us." Deuteronomy 6:25
God said He would bless those who bless Israel, & curse whoever would curse Israel. I'm staying right there. I stand with Israel.
You wrongly quoted that verse in Genesis 12. It was Abrams not Israel. Israel (i.e. Jacob) and his father Isaac hadn’t even yet been born.
@@Landis_Grant God chose Israel to be His people as a light before all the Gentile nations (Isaiah 60-62); God set them apart (Exodus 19:5-6). God's promise (aka, Abrahamic promise, Gen. 12:3): "And I will bless those who bless you, & the one who curses you I will curse.")
You're overlooking that Israel is God's promise, "I will make you into a great nation". That's Israel.
@@IhneelkLam God said that about Israel of the past before she (the Northern Kingdom of Israel was carried away into captivity by Assyria; the Southern Kingdom comprised of Judah and Benjamin and many Jews were slaughtered by Roman General Titus). That Israel wasn’t in existence when the Lord Jesus Christ walked this Earth.
Modern day Israel came about in 1948 and all those Old Testament verses you quoted don’t apply to Zionist Israel which hates and rejects Jesus Christ so stop posting that whosoever blesses Israel, God will bless (you parroted John Hagee who got Genesis 12:3 all wrong. That verse referred to Abrams (before his name was changed to Abraham the father of both Arabs and Isaac who hadn’t yet been born) and not to Jacob (changed to Israel). By the way, America supposedly blesses Israel so God blesses America? America aborted some 70 million fetuses since 1973, she’s the top producer of porn, America is a violent nation with murders, America is a top consumer of drugs, prayers in schools are outlawed, etc. Why would God bless America?
You people don’t seem to distinguish between ancient Israel and modern day Israel (who totally displeases God the Father became Israel doesn’t have His Son therefore Israel doesn’t have the Father: see 1 John). The rabbis and their congregations certainly aren’t worshipping the true God of Heaven! How could they when they follow the satanic Zoar and Talmud which says Jesus is currently being boiled in excrement. You so called Christians dare tell everyone to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and say that modern day Israel is the apple of God’s eyes!
Ancient Israel due to King David, Absolom and Hezekiah followed God and was blessed as well as Jerusalem and the Psalmist David exhorted his citizens to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
When Jesus was here, he cried for Jerusalem and said the Second Jewish Temple will be razed by the ruling Romans such that not one stone would be left standing (that happened in 70 AD).
Jesus also predicted that Jerusalem would be surrounded by gentile armies until His second coming. He instructed the Jews to flee to the mountains when they hear the Antichrist has desecrated the Third Jewish Temple. Do all of these future dire events scream that God is blessing Israel whom Jesus in Revelation called Sodom and Egypt?
@@Landis_Grant "And on that day I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem." ~ Zechariah 12:9
"For Gaza shall be deserted, and Ashkelon shall become a desolation; Ashdod's people shall be driven out at noon, and Ekron shall be uprooted." ~ Zephaniah 2:4
"And the territory of the Canaanites extended from Sidon in the direction of Gerar as far as Gaza, and in the direction of Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha." ~ Genesis 10:19
"And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise." ~ Galatians 3:29
Now, read it & & keep weeping like the unclean philistine you are. May palastine be utterly leveled & smoked like an unwashed pig on a pyre.
Oh, yeah: Absolutely NO weapon formed against God's children shall prosper. ALL tongues -- especially your unbrushed one -- that rise against us in judgment are ALREADY condemned. The Blood of Jesus is against you, spirit.
It all began with The Balfour Declaration.
The uniqueness of israel seems undisputed when you think of history and world wide attention it gets
Im Pretty sure God is on the move regarding this nation
The nation we call Israel today is as far astray from God as they were under King Ahab or any of the other bad Kings. To claim Israel is blessed no matter how deeply they fall into sin places one in the same place as the 300 false Prophets who assured Ahab God was on his side.
They are still blessed because they still have the promise of God to redeem them. But you are right that Israel is just as hardened today as it has ever been. And God is not redeeming them for their sake, for they a wretched, adulterous people.
“For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another.”
Isaiah 48:11 NASB1995
“Then you will know that I am the Lord when I have dealt with you for My name’s sake, not according to your evil ways or according to your corrupt deeds, O house of Israel,” declares the Lord God.’ ””
Ezekiel 20:44 NASB1995
“According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I dealt with them, and I hid My face from them.” ’ ” Therefore thus says the Lord God, “Now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name. They will forget their disgrace and all their treachery which they perpetrated against Me, when they live securely on their own land with no one to make them afraid.”
Ezekiel 39:24-26 NASB1995
@@clayweir9020 Spoken like the false prophets who even as Babylon was hauling them off onto captivity were claiming God was going to save them
@@bernieeod57 Do you heed to scripture at all or do you just lean on your own understanding? 🤦🏼
“From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers; for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”
Romans 11:28-29 NASB1995
@@clayweir9020 If you believe they are in Gods blessing and we should give them all the bombs they can drop, all the bullets they can shoot, and to fourth and kill those "Evil Arabs", you would be as the 300 false prophets who told Ahab the same thing
@@bernieeod57 Apologies are in order. Will you Humbly recant, or will you harden yourself?
There is a misinterpretation that Paul was saying in Romans 11 that at his time all ethnic Israelites were hardened so that Gentiles could be saved and in the last days things are going to be switched and all ethnic Jews are gonna be saved as God focuses back on them and not so much on the Gentiles.
What Paul was actually saying is that God providentially directed the hardening of Israel for the most part so that the Gospel could spread more among the Gentles, yet God was and is still saving many ethnic Jews and will continue to do so until all Israel (SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING according to election) has been saved along with all Gentiles according to election. There is no promise that every individual ethnic Jew will be saved. The ethnic differences between Jews and Gentiles are now irrelevant since God's people and his word now spread abroad. For God to guarantee every individual ethnic Jew salvation based on their lineage would be God being a respecter of persons or showing favoritism (arguably a sort of divine racism) towards a certain ethnicity which he has said he does not do.
Also, there was never a time where every ethnic Jew was a member of his divinely chosen people, not where it counted I mean, because many Jews under the Old Testament were not born again possessors of saving faith so many of them won't be in Heaven just because they descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and sons.
It all changed when Jesus was born... from there the gospel must spread throughout the world. Those who can hear will hear!
And that’s the thing. A Jew in 70AD is not a Jew in 2023. We have to remember that, not only were the northern Israelites pushed out in 722BC, exiled by Assyrians, but the Jews were pushed out in 586BC after Babylonian exile and then brought back in after the decree by Artaxerxes Longimanus in the 5th century BC, then pushed out again in 70AD. The Jews we have today two millennia later following the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 are nowhere near the same Jews as existed before. They are a mixed race of all peoples, and the Israelites are scattered throughout the Earth.
There is also a compelling case to be made that the Jewish people as we know them today descend from the false Judeans of Revelation 2:9, such that their attachment to the land of Israel originated not in God's promises to Jacob-Israel, but in the usurpation described in Ezekiel 35:1 - 36:7.
Bible-believing Christians in both sides, may God protect them from harm, and strengthen their faith in Christ.
Paul taught in Romans 11 the true Israel is the church, Jew and Gentile. God's chosen people began before national ethnic Israel with Abraham, as Paul explains in Romans. Moreover, ethnicity has nothing to do with it, but is by election of God as Jacob was chosen, not Esau, according to God. Also, God destroyed the 10 northern tribes, then in 70 AD finished off the southern tribes, establishing the church as the people of God, those by faith in Christ... period. There is no supersessionism, as Paul proves in himself, an ethnic Jew that is found in Christ, again, Romans.
Lastly, Joshua has God completing the land promise. Joshua 11, "So Joshua took the whole land, according to all that the LORD had spoken to Moses. And Joshua gave it for an inheritance to Israel according to their tribal allotments. And the land had rest from war."
Thank God.
Wrong they were not destroyed, they were scattered.
@TheBanjoShowOfficial Fair enough, he scattered them and they became as the Gentiles. As scripture says, Jer. 32:37Behold, I will gather them from all the countries to which I drove them in my anger and my wrath and in great indignation. I will bring them back to this place, and I will make them dwell in safety. 38And they shall be my people, and I will be their God. 39I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear me forever, for their own good and the good of their children after them. 40I will make with them an everlasting covenant, that I will not turn away from doing good to them. And I will put the fear of me in their hearts, that they may not turn from me.
Jesus brought the covenant.
Christian Zionism makes Israel more important than Jesus and what he did for us! End of discussion.
All this people need Jesus Christ and love.😢❤
I would’ve liked to have seen covenant theology addressed in this message. We don’t believe that we’ve replaced Israel as a people. We believe that the church has been always will be Israel.
True Israel has never been based upon ethnicity, but has been always Spiritual.
Amen 🙏
Very true.
Never? I'd encourage you to go back and read Exodus and Joshua. There was an incredibly strong command to maintain rigid ethnicity among the Jewish people. There were really good reasons for this and it ties back to spiritual reasons. But, regardless of the reasons, there was absolutely a call to maintain Israel as a people that were ethnically Jewish/Hebrew. At least, early on.
Obviously, this was not followed 100%, same as the other commands of God. Sometimes, at great consequence to the nation. Other times, it was divine ... such as the Moabite woman Ruth who would be in the lineage of Jesus.
@@67L48 "There was an incredibly strong command to maintain rigid ethnicity among the Jewish people."
Can you share the relevant verses please? Because I read Exodus earlier this year, and the sense I got was that God commanded Israel to be a covenantal nation, not an ethnic nation. Meaning anyone who followed the covenant could become an Israelite and worship the Lord.
Exodus 12:38: "And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle."
You are 100% wrong.
"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing."😢
A good non- Calvanist verse.
@@davidschefter4160how so?
@@Levij83 Because it clearly shows that while Jesus *willed* for Jerusalem to come to Him, but they *were not willing* and that was the determining factor. Jesus didn't say, "I chose you to be unwilling." Or "I ordained that you would not be willing." Just "you were not willing." Jesus wouldn't be weeping over something that He Himself forced to happen to show off his judgement.
@@nameirrelevant0Not following your logic??? 🤔
Christ is perfect in His Sovereign election and He is the one who hardened Israel as prophesied in Isaiah 53 and multitudes of other old testament prophecies.
If you disagree, please explain these passages!?
“But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.”
John 6:64 NASB1995
“Jesus answered them, “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?” Now He meant Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray Him.”
John 6:70-71 NASB1995
“If you know these things, you are blessed if you do them. I do not speak of all of you. I know the ones I have chosen; but it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled, ‘He who eats My bread has lifted up his heel against Me.’”
John 13:17-18 NASB1995
@@nameirrelevant0Just as Christ Sovereignly chose Judas to fulfill the scripture, He Sovereignly Hardened Israel fulfilling the prophecy of the coming New Covenant.
Why is there disagreement here? It clearly states in Revelation that Jesus will save Israel from destruction so clearly there’s a future for Israel.
Because people have different understandings of what Israel constitutes given the context of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. That’s why.
Because people have different understandings of what Israel constitutes given the context of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. That’s why.
@@TheBanjoShowOfficial
When Jesus cursed the fig tree, he said he was going to use the gentiles to take the gospel to the world before the rapture. He didn’t disinherit the Jews because that would mean he’d go back on his word and he can’t lie. After the rapture the Jews will be spreading the gospel so even before Armageddon Israel has a future.
1I looked again, and there before me was a flying scroll.
2He asked me, “What do you see?”
I answered, “I see a flying scroll, twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.”
3And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished. 4The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of anyone who swears falsely by my name. It will remain in that house and destroy it completely, both its timbers and its stones.’ ”
Either God is a covenant keeping God or He isn't. His covenant with Israel is an everlasting covenant. If God can break His covenant to Israel then He can break His covenant with us.
44But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.45I will remember for them the covenant [made with] the ancestors, whom I took out from the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, to be a God to them. I am the Lord. Leviticus 26:44-45
Amen.
God's covenant with them was everlasting... as long as they KEPT IT! That's the problem people make when they don't read what the text actually says by taking things out of context. The covenant was never unconditional.
@@jrconway3 Which verse?
The Torah says God is faithful in keeping His covenants forever.
9Know, therefore, that the Lord, your God He is God, the faithful God, Who keeps the covenant and loving kindness with those who love Him and keep His commandments to a thousand generations. Deuteronomy 7:9
JC Ryle wasn't a Puritan, he was an Anglican bishop
Many of the Puritan's were Anglican (low/Reformed, which JC Ryle was), I know many in the Reformed do not like this fact, but, a huge amount of Puritan theology as we know it, which came from Presbyterianism, the 1646 Westminster Confession is a deeply "low Anglican" Document after all, originally began in low Anglicanism, and went to America with the Pilgrim Founders who were mostly low Anglicans who Refused to accept the Tyrannical Charles II trying to force "Papal Nonsense" unto them and his barbaric persecution of anyone, such as John Bunyan, who disagreed with his forced Liturgy, and fled from England to escape his Tyranny.
Anglican does not always just mean *apostate* "Roman Catholicism, just with extra Arsenokoitai and without the Papacy" high anglicanism, for Proper, Uncorrupted low Anglicanism, such as that found in COFEC or the Evangelical Connexion (which takes its Episcopacy from JC Ryle) is actually very Similar (Just with a little more liturgy (such as having Music with Hymns and having the Evangelical feasts under the Dordt worship model), rather than being unaccompanied Psalmody Only and Lord's Day Only as per the Geneva worship model) to Orthodox Presbyterianism, and is, thus Deeply Reformed and steeped in Puritan Tradition.
@@simeonyves5940 Simeon, I never said that Ryle was apostate, nor denied that he was reformed, I simply stated the fact that he was an Anglican, and he wasn't a Puritan. He lived after the age of the puritans for one, and remained in the church of England, so he wasn't a non conformist, I think you are confused about what a Puritan actually was.
Also, John Bunyan never fled from England.
@@bayliss7772 I thank you for the Answer. I think I need to Explain more Clearly.
I am aware you did not accuse JC Ryle of Apostasy, nor did you doubt His Reformed Theology, however, the comment did strike me, by error on my own part, as "yet another hit piece" against Anglicanism, and I am extremely sorry that I misinterpreted it that way. Please accept my Apologies.
Sadly, as we know, vast swathes of the Anglican Communion, including the Mainstream COFE, a fair Portion of the FCOFE (its why the Evangelical Connexion *Separated* !), a Large Segment of the ACNA, GAFCON, Etc, has Apostatized (Permitting women to speak, preach, and have authority over men, using Corrupt and Perverted false Bibles translated by Occultists, Sabellians (and even deniers of the Divinity of Christ!) and Sodomites such as the NIV and the GNT (both Perversions utterly Condemned at the Chicago Convention), allowing and blessing the Abominations of Arsenokoitai and other such Sexual Perversions (LGBwhatever), Teaching *Damnable Heresies* of Rome, Pelagian, Arminius and Wesley such as total sinlessness, conditional security, continuance of the apostolic gifts, Gobbledeegook tongues, etc, Forcing Roman Catholic "high church" Liturgy at the Expense of the Expository teaching of the word, Denying its own Articles (39 Articles 1571), Confession (1646 Westminster) and Prayer Book (the *Extremely Controversial* 1662 Book of Common Prayer), all deeply Calvinist and Biblical Documents in order to Promote the Damnable and Satanic Heresies of Ecumenicalism, Universalism, and Arminianism!) Abject Worldiness being let into the church with Bethel and Hillsong New Age Blasphemies and false worship promoted over the Traditional Pre 1928 Reformed Hymns and Old Testament Psalmody , Women being allowed to wear jeans and trousers and other things that only pertain to the Man, Sermons on Videogames (even as one who does permit some videogames in my life (as much as that admission is probably going to land me in trouble with Pastor Friel) I am *beyond offended* at the church giving Sermons on them! it is not a Sin to Play Mario, but it *is* Blasphemy to somehow try and connotate it with God!) and many other such issues) , as one who is ex mainline CofE I know of the Apostasy all too well, its why I left, so as not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers.
Sadly, this Apostasy has lead, especially in the US Reformed Circles, in a Tendency to view the whole of Anglicanism, Right from its very Dawn under Henry the 8th, right across its History, as Apostate. This leads to countless Hitpieces against Anglicanism online and that, and I admit I am at fault here, has put me on the Defensive, not only because many Great Sheep and Servants of Christ (Such as JC Ryle and Augustus Toplady) are being Besmirched, but also the Two Churches I am looking at (sadly, Bible Believing Reformed Churches of any Kind!, let alone Confessional Reformed Baptist Churches, are very rare in the UK, it is down to a mere Handful for Bible Believing Reformed Churches (such as COFEC, Evangelical Connexion, etc) of any kind, with Confessional Reformed Baptist Churches pretty much unable to get off the Ground as, sadly, the Flock of Christ here in the UK is Aging (I am quite Young for a Christian in the UK...and I turn 37 in a few days...), and there is still a lot of old, Second World War era, "Over Paid, over Fed and worst of all, Over Here!" Anti-American Rhetoric, inherited from their Parents, among them, leading them to view anything "American", such as, in their Eyes, Confessional Reformed Baptist Churches, with Extreme Distrust and Disdain) are also being Besmirched as both are Separated low/Reformed Anglican churches, as they are about the only Bible Believing Churches I have been able to Find! it has, unfortunately, and again, I am at fault, left me rather "on edge" .
Sadly, I mistakenly Assumed your comment was of that nature, and again, I ask for your Forgiveness for my mistake there.
Indeed, there is a lot of Argument over what constitutes a Puritan, for some it is only for People who followed Cromwell during his reformation of England, for others it does include those who were around under Charles II but did not Conform and Rejected the Church of England Entirely and formed new Congregations such as the Congregationists, for others it includes the "Neo Puritans" which is anyone who held to many Puritan Traditions, such as Ryle, despite living many years after the end of the Puritan Era with the return of the worldly monarchy, and them remaining in the Church of England. It seems to depend on the Individual Sheep in question...rather like Eschatology!
I am not Neo-Puritan, as well, I do allow myself some things that are utterly Forbidden under 21st Century Neo-Puritanism (Selected Movies, Limited TV, Occasional Radio, Specific Videogames, Music with Hymns, the 5 Evangelical Feasts, etc) , but I am Reformed (Full Five Point Grace, Confessional (1646 Westminster) and hold to the Reformed Catechisms (including the 95 Thesis, Calvin's Institutes, Heidelberg, Second Helvetic, 1619 Canons of Dort, 1647 Shorter and Longer Westminster, 1648 Standards, and the 1662 BCP) and I am non-Conformist (considering the cofE to be an utterly Apostate, terminally Corrupt, Non-Christian, Satanic, Wesleyan-Arminian Cult that all Born against Christians should Separate from Totally so as not to be Unequally yoked with Unbelievers) so I am not sure what that makes me... maybe a "theological mutt" as Brother Matthew Everhard would put it?
I am aware that John Bunyan Remained in England, I just used the fact he spent so many years in Jail under the Orders of Charles II as an Example of the Tyranny and Persecution that was Rife under that Particular false monarch.
I hope that Explains why I made that post, I am sorry for being so on edge, and I do hope that it has not caused Division. Please accept my Apologies.
Love and Peace.
God's will be done .. his promises stand .. as does his judgement .. I pray for the people of Israel, that God will be as merciful in his actions as is possible for him.
Thanks Todd. Your insight on everything is "Spot on!"
Sure I can pray for both parties. But when I know Hamas wants Christians dead too. I have a problem
Pray for them even so. Paul sanctioned murder of new Believers until his Damascus Rd experience. Pray they would have Damascus Rd-like experiences also. God bless!
Christians are commanded to be like Christ and rise above that kind of carnal mentality. Even though the Romans and Jews mocked Christ while He was nailed to a stake, He still prayed to the Father to forgive them. Most "Christians" is they only want to pray for ppl who show them favor like Trump, but there is one problem: that's not Christ-like. Jesus wasn't blowing hot air when He said "pray for your enemies".
The church has not replaced Israel (better known as Replacement Theology) though many Christians teach and believe that the church has. Scripture has stated, using Paul here, that when the number of the Gentiles coming to Christ has been fulfilled, then it switches back to Israel for their salvation.
Romans 11:25, "I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,"
Don't see Israel being smacked off God's plan for redemption here. Also, there are many, many Old Testament references to God saving Israel in the end. Many times, Israel has been defiant to God, and God punished them but always kept a faithful remnant for Himself! That's key here, people. But god NEVER once said that Israel was no longer part of God's salvation plan; never!
Why others think different is beyond me! 🤔
Me to brother. It’s really strange that some “christians” actually believe that God literally replaced Israel for the church and will never bring them back. Cuz it’s basically saying that God doesn’t fullfill his promises to his ppl (Israel) and just forgot them. No way I believe that… our God is not like man that HE changes his mind. NO. HE fullfills what he says and he will do it. He never lies.
Just look at what's being practiced in Tel Aviv
Agreed is quiet clearly written, just the same has women are not permitted to teach or have authority over a man all conveniently forgotten
@@Souls_25 AMEN to that Brother!
Not unprovoked, if you look at the history of oppression by Israel for the past 17 years on Gaza
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation,
15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,
16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.
17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near.
18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Ephesians 2:14-18 NKJV