This Is Why People Don't Like Your Space Photos

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @ClearAmbientSkies
    @ClearAmbientSkies 9 месяцев назад +9

    I post my images for family and friends on my personal page. I get more likes there than I do on my brand accounts. The audience determines my explanation of the photo.
    I post my images for outreach and just to show what’s “up there”. I get questions, but most people don’t know what they’re looking at and even when you attempt to explain they still cannot grasp it.
    Regardless of all this, the bottom line is that I don’t care about likes. Back when NEOWISE was close, I posted an images that received 10s of thousands of likes, but it made difference. I have images that are severely better than my NEOWISE image that received little attention. Who cares?
    If one is into astrophotography for likes they should get out. Astrophotography isn’t about popularity. It is about discovery of nature and adventure at its core.
    Interesting video. I enjoyed it.
    Clear skies!

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад +2

      That's exactly it - we all have different reasons for why we do astro. Love what you said - doing it to show what's "up there" - especially since so, so many people don't know! I've been doing outreach for years now and I've found that making things relatable is the best method - like telling people how much an Uber ride to the Moon would cost. The reactions I get are great!
      Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!

    • @ClearAmbientSkies
      @ClearAmbientSkies 9 месяцев назад

      It's my hobby first and it attracts attention at times, but likes or no likes I am forever an amateur astrophotographer.
      I completely agree with the relatability angle. Glad I found your channel. CS!

  • @WrightFlyer1903
    @WrightFlyer1903 9 месяцев назад +1

    What a gem. I just stumbled on this video by accident but it's a work of pure genius! It says exactly what I have been thinking. Why do people get so excited about utterly crap smartphone pictures and ignore the time and effort poured into quality astro pictures that have taken hours of effort?

  • @NeilArthurs
    @NeilArthurs 9 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who has just started on their astro photography journey I am delighted I watched this! Thanks so much for being honest, funny and of course showcasing your beautiful images! and to add, that thumbnail is pure gold! haha

  • @Rubik3x
    @Rubik3x 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the insight. The problem I have with RUclips is so many people don't bother to read the description. I know this when they ask a question (which I love to get) that was explained in the description. This is where the title needs to do much of the work of engagement and explanation.
    P.S. I 👍 your video!

  • @robertasumendi
    @robertasumendi 9 месяцев назад +2

    💯and goes for stargazing too. With light pollution getting so much worse for our star parties, my club members worry about finding good enough DSOs to show. I just show people the Moon and wide star fields and they freak out about being able to see so many stars in the city. For extra credit, put a UHC on the Lagoon and say "that little smudge is new stars being born". "Nebula" means nothing to people, "stellar nursery" is something even a boyfriend who got dragged out of the house that night will look at for a moment and wonder.

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад

      Yes! The Moon and Planets are more than enough to get people excited about astronomy.

  • @DrGkill777
    @DrGkill777 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Your analysis seems right. Personaly speaking, I got used to it over time. Now I take deep sky images for my family and space lovers. I don't try to explain to those who don't want to understand or lack of curiosity anymore. It's a lot of energy spent with too few efficiency.

  • @viewintospace
    @viewintospace 9 месяцев назад

    Really cool video - loads of take aways!!!! Another thing: Many Astrophotographers take the high road - the background should not be too dark, the pic not too stretched, the colors not too bright so that all details are visible. The Facebook crowds response: BORING!!!!!!! So this is one reason I let my pics pop and add a turbo pop at the end with Luminar Neo. I might never win an award with them, but on social media I get the better response....

  • @gregerianne3880
    @gregerianne3880 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for this perspective, Ian! I love the humor you snuck in there. 😄 You know, for some reason I hadn't even considered that people might actually read what I write to accompany my online photos! I assumed they just look at the photo and either like it or not and then just forget it. Have you also found that whether the audience will read what you write depends on where you post? I do vary the text to suit what I think is the audience (I'm probably wrong more often than I'm right), but this is great advice to slant the text toward the familiar and relatable. Thanks again!

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it was helpful, and glad you enjoy my silly humor! You'd be surprised how many people will read your text with your photos - as long as they're readable. I've found writing like I'm talking to a teenager is the best way to go about it.
      Where you post will definitely impact who reads it. On Twitter or Threads, more people are likely to read, where somewhere like instagram or facebook, it takes a bit more finesse.

  • @thatastrochap
    @thatastrochap 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great video - very relatable and some great tips that I’m definitely going to try. Thank you!

  • @ferenc-x7p
    @ferenc-x7p 9 месяцев назад

    I can relate to this. I took a no more than 15 minutes of total exposure of M33- Hercules Star Cluster. We all know that taking images of star clusters is relatively easy and quick compared to nebulae and faint galaxies. And yet, when I posted it (after at least 30-40 nebula photos previously) I got about 5x more likes. I was quite shocked. I"m like I'm not sure what about star clusters are so exciting (I personally find them boring after the 3rd time imaging the same) , then I realized, it's because they are just stars in a cluster and I mentioned that you can actually see this with a cheap telescope or if you got steady hands and expose long enough with your phone, you gonna see a tiny fuzzball where the cluster is.
    I can bet some people tried it or just " many stars = cluster" sounds simple enough. Another one was a 30 second shot of a comet. Reasons for more popularity: It was in the news. If I show a 20 hour image of Rosette- people have no idea what it is, what does it take, some even think I photoshopped it.
    Another recent image was going around recently on Facebook was that someone took a 2 minute video (just a guess) lucky imaging of Saturn during dawn, so it has a blue background. I still see it passed around with 100s of thousands of likes, because people didn't know you can image a planet when it's not totally dark anymore. The image is rather mediocre and low resoltuon and lacks any colors or details to a good image of Saturn, and yet the simple image gave the "Oh my god, you can image a planet when it's almost bright outside??" LOL!

  • @KopLamp
    @KopLamp 9 месяцев назад

    I can relate to both sides of this double-edged sword. I am shooting Deep Sky Objects with telescopes primarily. Whenever I upload my images to social media it is mostly the story that gets engagement, not the photo itself. I think one aspect that will increase the likes on a smartphone picture over the cooled-camera-gang (myself included) is that in some cases it seems much harder to achieve something shareable with the smartphone than with the cooled-camera equipment. The appreciation that someone took the unbeaten path might also contribute into the higher engagement. A similar thing applies to making RUclips videos. I am jealous of the 2.1k views you got on this video already. Most of my videos stay under 1k. For some I spend weeks upon weeks making them and they get 500 views and then they flatline. It is the comments what make it worthwhile for me. Had lots of nice conversations on my videos. The same applies to my images. I much rather have a photo with 4 likes and lots of questions/remarks than one with only thousands of thumbs-ups (no experience on the latter though 😅)

  • @piedmontwildlifeandoutdoors
    @piedmontwildlifeandoutdoors 9 месяцев назад +8

    Wait.....people don't like my space photos?😮

    • @PafMedic
      @PafMedic 9 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @DaveAdams222
    @DaveAdams222 9 месяцев назад +1

    Dang it, your personality is addicting! I'm a photographer (doggos, landscapes, and motorsports) but I've never had the desire for astrophotography. I still don't, but I'm gonna keep watching your videos, HAHA! Subscribed!

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад +1

      This comment just made my day! Thank you!!

  • @mlethbridge76
    @mlethbridge76 9 месяцев назад

    Great video... When I first started astrophotography, it was all about being outside, in the middle of a field, in the middle of the night, under the stars and appreciating everything. When I posted a pic back then if it hit 30-40 likes I thought that was pretty cool, but it wasn't my main concern at all. Then about 2 years ago apparently instagram's algorithm changed and I was averaging 2,000-3,000 likes per pic, and even over 10,000 on one and it was really flattering, and I found myself chasing the likes. Now, I rarely get over 200 likes on a pic, but that is perfect for me, it's all back to being outside, under the stars, and just enjoying myself.

  • @NatanielsArt
    @NatanielsArt 9 месяцев назад

    For real I see it so many times even in astro groups. Like you said most are clueless, I’ve been recently asked if I take my photos when the moon is out so it’s brighter and stars are more visible lol

  • @nightscapejournals
    @nightscapejournals 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting points, Ian. The narrative is so important to any of it - bring the image to life with a story or some plain-English background and it’s bound to draw people in more than without any context.
    Strangely I think deep sky does a lot better on YT, possibly because of all the kit associated with it, which people seem to love seeing. My nightscaping videos (which are the ones I love doing) get a fraction of the views that those from my back garden observatory get (even though in my opinion they’re nowhere near as interesting!). Thank goodness I’m not trying to earn a living from this as I’d be in trouble! 🤣

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад +1

      I love the nightscape adventures - I'm hoping to do more and more as the weather gets better near me so I can help grow the audience for it. It's definitely more work than these talking head videos, but I love being out under the night sky.

    • @nightscapejournals
      @nightscapejournals 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ianlauerastro 100%. Look forward to watching those!!

  • @DJRonnieG
    @DJRonnieG 9 месяцев назад

    I think people like the crappy phone pics because they can relate. That said, I do agree that the nicer images might get more traction if accompanied by a good description. The way we would each go about doing that gives us a lot of creative latitude.

  • @robvandenwijngaart988
    @robvandenwijngaart988 9 месяцев назад

    Hi Ian, I don't have FB anymore. I used to be in special FB groups for photography, unbex photography, night photography and so on. When I spend 30 minutes taking a photo of a doorknop in an abandonat building, I was the guy getting 3 likes. Others who clicked a way get the most likes. Competitions.... I toke the time to take a beautiful macro shot of a buttefly. But grandma won the competition whit the baby photo of her grandson in bath. So I take photos because I like it, they al are for myself. On my website, that's not abaut photography, I post some photo of several types of photography, also my astro photos. No like's, no comments, just photos. Anyway, thanks for the video, I gave you a like ;)

  • @jamespeirce2582
    @jamespeirce2582 9 месяцев назад

    Really fun video with some good and even thought-provoking points! Like on education, relatability, language.
    There is one highly prominent factor playing into this behavior not mentioned: engagement and good ol’ capitalism. Engagement shows the image to more people and less engagement buries it. Some of it ties in directly to what you said (people engage more with something relatable), but *negative* engagement is no less valuable for Facebook. A bunch of people in the comments of an out-of-focus star complaining about that image getting likes and comments, complaining about that image, explaining that it is an out-of-focus star for the 20th time: to Facebook, that’s just more evidence for the algorithm to kick that image into overdrive and eventually make it go viral. And positive or negative doesn’t much matter to them compared to what is more likely to get an ad click.
    But what you shared feels like it cuts to the heart of what matters, insightfully, in better reaching a broad community and actually finding people who want to continue seeing your images.

  • @eparhas9162
    @eparhas9162 9 месяцев назад

    I think part of it also is a bit of the fact that if someone is new (like myself) people can see a progression. Like my first image versus my most recent shows a ton of improvement. But for people who really excel at the hobby all the images can look equally good quality to the untrained eye. Idk just my line of thought

  • @tombock336
    @tombock336 9 месяцев назад +1

    Loved the approach u took in talking about this topic…..spot on, as usual. 🤙

  • @Wheeljack678
    @Wheeljack678 9 месяцев назад

    Interesting video, never thought about it that way. I always assumed the amount of likes were determined by how lucky you are with the algorithm and who actually sees your image in their feed.
    I know it's an old cliche, but I don't do this for the likes. (I like to receive them of course, but it's not my main drive). If I did, I would have sold my equipment long ago... or driven it to a landfill. I have an astrobin and a hobby group on FB i post some of them on, but for the most part, I do this for me and my own enjoyment. To be honest, I don't want to ruin that enjoyment by chasing likes. I want to avoid thoughts like "If my previous photo got 368 likes, why did this one only receive 73?"
    I would much rather complain online about clouds instead.

  • @peterlaubscher3989
    @peterlaubscher3989 9 месяцев назад +1

    Inspirational - thank you!

  • @BigBadLoneWolf
    @BigBadLoneWolf 9 месяцев назад

    For me, it is the planning, and trying to improve my post processing, as well as learning and problem solving. Once i start imaging, I sit in my car listening to music. When I post a pic to social media, it is to share, and if someone wants to give any tips to help me improve

  • @JeffHorne
    @JeffHorne 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, Ian. Thanks for this!

  • @jasonadrian6201
    @jasonadrian6201 7 месяцев назад

    I had to pause the video to point out what an awesome image if the Horsehead and Flame that was!

  • @richiewitkowski7142
    @richiewitkowski7142 9 месяцев назад

    Omg the beginning of the video when you showed the out of focus Vega: I saw that get an insane amount of traction on the astrophotography page im on for Facebook like maybe a month ago??
    We must secretly be in the same Facebook page!

  • @kristiansalo6264
    @kristiansalo6264 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent video! And it is not just astrophotography that suffers from crappy photos getting all the likes so there is nothing left for good ones. Whether you are doing portraiture, landscape or wildlife photos, it's the same thing. Also, people who say "it's not about likes", don't understand one basic consept: in social media, some people are running (or advertising) their businesses and more likes means more reach and more possible customers. In the end it's not about likes but customers, but likes will help you to get those customers. So, please accept my humble like to you 😄
    One thing that was missing from the video, has probably the most effect on likes - those damn algorithms. Your reach in IG plummets if you don't constantly adapt to changes and spend hours and hours of giving likes and interacting with others. And I really don't care about that anymore. Sure, you could get one photo going viral and get huge amounts of likes. Which is nice. But I think more important is to get steady flow of likes. Well, you can't choose algorithms, so I guess that's another topic. Anyway, great points and love your work!

  • @filipdziegielewski4742
    @filipdziegielewski4742 9 месяцев назад

    I was just talking about it with a friend, then I turned on YT and your video appeared :)

  • @erewhon42
    @erewhon42 9 месяцев назад

    Really enjoyed the video. Thanks for this!

  • @Spamandrice
    @Spamandrice 9 месяцев назад

    I’m here because of the thumbnail photo. Sooooo good. I just subscribed

  • @spaceadobo
    @spaceadobo 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this video!

  • @jesusbilbao
    @jesusbilbao 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent presentation and subject. Thank you for sharing with us. (I did give you a “like”)😊

  • @progamernoob6964
    @progamernoob6964 9 месяцев назад +1

    YOOOO THAT WAS GMARS.2:33

  • @qonos68
    @qonos68 9 месяцев назад

    This is a very clever analysis.

  • @HeyApos
    @HeyApos 9 месяцев назад

    This geht's a 100 stars, likes, wharever :-) This is so right 😀 Had a lot of fun watching. I raise my glas of german palatinate wine for this.
    We are all so different and have to different view son the subject.

  • @mrunowen1
    @mrunowen1 9 месяцев назад

    I feel a little weird “liking” this video…Thanks, Ian!

  • @Thunder_Dome45
    @Thunder_Dome45 9 месяцев назад

    I blame the feeds on Facebook. All those "suggested for you" pages and posts that have over run Facebook. I can't even see my groups anymore. I just posted my north American nebula and got a whole 4 likes. 23 hours of exposure over here. That was in an astrophotography group. My own page no likes and people on there usually are supportive. Most of them are there because of my photography. They probably haven't even seen it yet.

  • @tinianastrodad5649
    @tinianastrodad5649 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome video bro, this helped so much 🤙❤️🔭📸🌌

  • @mdev3987
    @mdev3987 9 месяцев назад

    The problem is that it is unconceivable that this is taken by an astrophotographer - us - and it is just from their POV something taken by "nasa telescopes" that they seen on internet.

  • @Aerostar509
    @Aerostar509 9 месяцев назад

    Do you think a 10 Micro GM2000 mount is overkill for a Samsung S23?

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад

      Go big or go home - GM4000 is the way

  • @falseusername
    @falseusername Месяц назад

    Literally everyone who sees my astrophotography: "Why are you doing this? Why are you spending a lot of money on gas, sitting for hours, freezing, then spending hours processing the photos, if you can just download photos from the Internet, for example from Hubble"
    I have come to the conclusion that some people simply have no imagination. They cant imagine that this ring of light is actually ionized gas that was scattered by the explosion of a star thousands years ago. Or that this strange spiral is a monstrously large galaxy, in which there are billions of worlds, forcing me to think once again, how people can even think that they are alone in the universe.
    To them, it is just a picture.

  • @AmatureAstronomer
    @AmatureAstronomer 9 месяцев назад +1

    I am not ready to post my celestial photos online, yet.

  • @nikaxstrophotography
    @nikaxstrophotography 9 месяцев назад +2

    So what you are really saying is that people are stupid fair enough

  • @sjk7305
    @sjk7305 9 месяцев назад

    Is that GMARS 2:33 ?

  • @joakimastro
    @joakimastro 9 месяцев назад

    Ive received 700 likes total on my astrobin (thats not alot) and I now do paid talk-gigs for local photo clubs etc about astronomy and astrophotography.. Im gonna put my iphone on my eq6-r pro on pure spite.

  • @_ethereal_astro
    @_ethereal_astro 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m selling my gear…cuz you told to me to; and if that friend 😉 reaches out to about that observatory. Hit me up!!🤙

    • @ianlauerastro
      @ianlauerastro  9 месяцев назад

      That's the key to more internet likes!!! 🤣

  • @Dr_frog__
    @Dr_frog__ 9 месяцев назад

    What do I do if I’m the phone guy with the telescope likes? 😅

  • @franksemi_modular
    @franksemi_modular 9 месяцев назад

    I realized years ago people only care about their own stuff. Everything else is pretty much random.

  • @ZNEBRAAJ
    @ZNEBRAAJ 9 месяцев назад

    Would be a better bit if this video only had 4 likes

  • @sodakastronut
    @sodakastronut 9 месяцев назад

    Capture images of targets you like with whatever you have. Post so you can see/share them later. Don't give a rat's ass if anyone else cares. Share info/techniques politely when asked - if they can acces your image they can access Google. Thank those polite enough to compliment your efforts. Ignore the negative'ers. Don't empower people who don't know you with the ability to affect your happiness/accomplishments. Screw the algorithm. Voila! Happiness with Astrophotography. 😊

  • @CarpeNoctem42
    @CarpeNoctem42 9 месяцев назад

    There. Have a like!

  • @franksemi_modular
    @franksemi_modular 9 месяцев назад

    Haha yeah and 12 year old Russians gets 12 mil likes 😅😅

  • @ma-fi1nu
    @ma-fi1nu 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think putting anytime into posting on any social media platform is a total waste of time.. yes I'm a bit of an old schooler but social media is a complete waste of tine.. just share with people around you and everyone else, we'll, they just don't matter

  • @PafMedic
    @PafMedic 9 месяцев назад

    Ok,Im Gonna Be That 1 That Says,I Dont Care What People Think Of My Images.I Post Them For My Own Enjoyment,If You Like It,You Like It,If Not..Move On..If You Know Of Some Improvements ,Always Acceptable..But Could Care Less About The Likes,lol..Clear Skies❤️🙏🏻🪽