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Mike Austin’s release aka Fred Couples' extra long right arm. When you try to do the Couples extra length right arm you actually stabilize the clubface. By trying to make your right arm too long the left wrist has to bend into flexion instead of rolling over. When it rolls over that shuts the clubface. Adam Scott does this move as does VJ Singh, Fred Couples, Rory and the famous Count Yogi. Most of these players have never had a problem with the ball going left. What this prevents is the left arm getting jammed and being forced to fold because you’ve run out of right arm. You’d think this would result in a flip but because we’re swinging down toward the target line we don’t actually reach this position until after the ball is gone. You will get a flip if you’re swinging toward the target because you’ve redirected the clubhead from moving down to trying to make it move sideways - toward the target and during that redirection you will flip it. I discovered this when I played after hurting my back and I hit some of the longest drives ever! Players that strike with the bowed wrist often have a problem with the ball going left.
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It also traps the ball differently. Once you feel the square collapsing release squash the ball, there is nothing like it.
Nice to see Mike Austin gets some cred! He was way ahead of his time. Taught me about raising the lead heel, lateral bends, hitting up with the driver and much more back before it was hip. Once you made contact with the ball the lead arm bends thereby not cutting of the circular momentum. Cheers!
Yes the left is cupped post impact, and also the right is cupped at the top of the backswing which Mike called holding a plate, very awesome way to strike the ball, I've been doing it for years, trained under Dan Shauger for a while who has since passed, now Steve Pratt teaches lot of the same principles
Another gem! Many thanks from across the pond 👍
Mike was a genius his techniques enable me to reach my new club speed record of 122.5 mph.
His compound pivot is what's makes it so consistent long and effortless.
Hahahahaha! Yeah of course he did. Oh and yeah, you swing at 122.5! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi there, I have a friend who hits it a mile without much effort, I watched his release carefully. This is what he does , naturally. Good to see it validated.
Man, I love this channel.
Same I can't wait to play golf soon
Mike Austin and his protege Mike Dunaway were the longest of their eras swinging like that. Your explanation was put in a way Austin never quite put it, appreciate your expertise.
Mike Austin completely tells you everything . It is all there to hear and see. What are you looking for ? It sure is not letting go with the right hand. Neither of the best did that .
MA was the best ever to swing a golf club . He never received the credit , because he was right . Way ahead of his time , and dwarfed everyone he played.
your videos are always interesting and provocative. Surely what is allowing this type of release is that in the downswing the hips are moving left out of the way in a right handed golfer while the arms are travelling down the aim line longer i.e the body and arm movement is diverging thus allowing the left arm to stay extended longer. This is the real reason why players with this type of release hit less shots left. Just my observation and something Fred Couples has commented on about his swing.
I use to do this and started shooting in the 60s. Had a couple bad days and went to a top 100 teacher. We watched my swing on video. He said it was all wrong. It was this exact same release. I asked if it was a flip. He said no. He said my lag was incredible. I would crush drives high and straight and long. This was before the concept of hitting up on the ball with the driver: I was doing it. I would drive with the hips, the club would drop into the slot and I would release the crap out of it without any fear of going left. He convinced me to change. What a mistake. Now 10 years later I have a chicken wing right elbow through impact that I can't stop from happening. I'm trying to go back to the old swing. It feels so far gone. Body patterns and movements are all different. I can say it is a count yogi move. Works great for short game as well. The feeling of the drop is amazing in the full swing. In flow it is effortless and looks like molten metal through out the swing. Almost slow motion but the power was WOW!
I'm going to go through the process of reworking it back to this concept. It's in there somewhere. I just have to find it again.
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People pay hundreds for a new driver or irons and hundreds more on DVDs and lessons that do them little or no good. I have truly simplified the swing to the point of almost near ridiculousness and it's transforming people's golf games. This is my only source of income these days as the company I worked for has gone under.
My wife keeps saying to me, "Why are you just giving it away for free? You're wasting your time!" I'd like to prove her wrong.
Play well! Thank you.
The wrists are going into Dorsi flexion and Palmer flexion through the strike the club is thrown from the top just after you shift it’s thrown in line with your left arm ( for right handlers) The club rotates around your lead wrist. His pivot differs from the common pivot taught today he worked under his c7 ( seventh cervicle ) He and Mike Dunaway explain on several videos.Mr. Austin was super long and straight. His friend and student Mike Dunaway could really hit at well. I witnessed him doing a driving exhibition at my club( Sankaty Head Golf Club) on Nantucket in the early nineties he flew it on the green from the red tees on 18 it was up hill cross wind over 340 yards.
Wow! No kidding? One of the popular videos of Mike hitting balls onto the green was shot from the front tees at #8 at Woodland Hills CC. It's about 300-ish from there. I think I could probably make it from there. I play a 5 wood from the back tees and have 110 yards in, if I hit the fairway.
I've never heard anything about C7, that's interesting. Do we even have a C7? Wait, C7 would be way up at mid-spine. Hmm, ok. something to think about.
Fred couples does because his left arm is mostly lifted with little turn around his body in the early backswing. Then he turns his upper body horizontally at the top while continuing to lift and folds his wrist similarly to the follow through. The short left arm path relative to the turn causes this by essentially creating a long right arm through impact. In the case of Vijay, he takes the club high and outside with a lot of arm lift and then turns agressively with hip drive which creates another long trail arm situation. Austin does it because he turns back and through in one piece and then release his wrists on one plane more than almost anyone. Adam Scott does this because he turns his "shirt buttons" toward the rear of his body more than most tours pros do in the backswing. This means that a long hitter with strong downswing hip turn will release more around the body causing more trail hand over lead hand action. All these cases are different. Also, Couples and Singh do this in a more distinct way than the others due to major lead arm lift as compared to lead arm (center of the arm) around the body during the backswing.
Really interesting, I had worked out years ago that chipping and pitching left hand below right it produced a very different release.. one that when you look at the butt of the club through impact it kicks back superfast back to the right ( like a trebuchet) .. try it. It produces the same left wrist cup after impact.
This Austin release is like a normal grip version of this... and I’ve never even thought to compare the similarities.
What I do know tho. is that it is def anti left, and if not timed right can lead to very high shots to the right... not the fault of the release .. that just needs to be timed correctly .
Excellent video.. period.
VJ Singh does all his pitching and chipping cross handed.
Great idea- I was desperate due to an injured right wrist so I decided to use almost zero right hand with super light right hand grip. the idea was to try to do what VJ and Freddie do and take pressure off my right forearm . It worked like a charm I hit high long draws with over 260 carry (Im 76) I also hit a 75 yd 58 degree lob wedge shot. I can't wait to get back on the course to really ingrain this release.
You're right about Yogi and Couples. I made the same determination a while ago and actually taught myself the Yogi swing by analysing old videos. I had already learned the Couples swing and noticed the similarity and yes, both smash the ball with the right hand/arm. Yogi's swing is different though in that he took the club inside very fast and let the left arm ride up the body. He also turned the trail hip back powerfully with thrusting the lead hip and knee forward while maintaining and even deepening his spine angle, a very powerful and piston like action. The left arm was effectively driven back and forth in lockstep the winding/unwinding of the body. This allowed him to unwind with the trail arm, as a whole really, moving forward and downward and right through ball like a sledge hammer. Both he and Freddy tend to lock the lead arm to the upper body somewhat as you mention then Freddy takes it up and Yogi takes it up and around the body.
Very astute observations. Not too many people get what Yogi was doing. There are some other differences with Couples, though.
@@mygolfbuddy I totally agree. I was mostly commenting on the movement of his arms and could have a lot more to say about Yogi's amazing motion. Cheers.
@@timothypollock8358 Yogi's swing will feel more like you are "catching" the ball with the club's loft line, which is an extension of your right hand/fingers rather than "throwing" right hand at the ball. This results from his rather unique grip, takeaway, and pivot action.
@@mygolfbuddy Yes, I absolutely agree because he strikes the ball more from the trail side of his body than most golfers and plays with more what I call a long trail arm than most as well. This is because the club gets pretty far behind him quickly and then his hands get high so he needs complimentary motions in the downswing in order to produce a good release. Cheers.
interesting...I'm back to bouncing the ball again and will give this a shot at the range today. Wow...I just did a couple swings in my house and have never felt a finish or follow thru like this before. . Thanks for keeping the game interesting.
The moment of truth. And probably the intention in Yogi back and through start to finish to keep the trail wrist hand from rolling . Moe Norman felt like he was reaching to shake hands with the flag. That would be a little difficult without a sq. Right wrist through impact, he also wrote about holding the right hand off to the last moment for what that's worth. 👍 vid. Last swing thought, the ball is just in the way.
Very interesting concept about running out of right arm and chicken-winging. I found that if I thrust my right hip and right knee forward as much as I can (as if my right hip was a wrecking ball hitting a wall in front of me) I totally avoid the right arm feeling too short and avoid the chicken wing. If I don't do that, my left arm definitely starts to buckle and chicken wing. I'll have to try what you suggest. It might be a great alternative for golfers unable to get that right hip forward fast enough. Thanks for the tip.
Hey! Thanks for checking in and commenting. I like you're approach to golf and thing we'd get along very well. Maybe we can do a video together some day.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf Thanks very much. Like most golfers I struggled for years until I found the Mike Austin Swing. He was brilliant the way he figured out how to use the human body to swing a golf club more efficiently through his study of kinesiology. It took me many many years to actually figure out what he was trying to say. We all know Mike was too technical in his explanations for many golfers.
Once the light bulb came on for me, I felt I had to try to explain and share his method in an easier and fun way for golfers to understand. It's an amazing feeling to know the ball will go where I'm aiming 95% of the time. I really feel sorry for golfers when I see them spending a good part of their game hunting for their balls in the rough.
You seem to have a different, interesting and cool approach to explaining things as well. Sure, maybe we can work on a video project together. Until then, I look forward to watching your videos.
Thank you sir. Watch all your video and played by your way in the past 2weeks, finally today i found out the balance point of turn and release, holy grail and how to not turn shoulder. Thank you again, best wishes.
Yeah! Great to hear. It took me years to figure out how to actually explain what it was I was doing when I was playing well. It would come and go because it was just a feeling. Sometimes I had it, sometimes I didn't. I have a paypal if you'd consider donating. If I've helped you more than any new club or lesson ... I sure could use it. I want to start a new career in golf. I lost my job due to covid closing the company I worked for. I'm trying to make the best of it. I don't have a choice.
Awesome breakdown! Love how you tie it into running out of right arm and chicken winging it.
I always thought this is what they did but was told i was nuts. They DO do this. Great stuff.
Most amateurs try to hit the ball with ulnar deviation and supination of the right wrist but they do it way too early so by the time they get to the ball any speed that may have been produced is long gone. By trying to make your arm too long it happens through the ball naturally.
Dude I’ve been watching for a few weeks. You’ve completely changed my game. Keep em firing!
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People pay hundreds for a new driver or irons and thousands more on DVDs and lessons that do them little or no good. I have truly simplified the swing to the point of almost near ridiculousness and it's transforming people's golf games. This is my only source of income these days as the company I worked for has gone under.
My wife keeps saying to me, "Why are you just giving it away for free? You're wasting your time!" I'd like to prove her wrong.
Play well! Thank you.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf send a little donation from Paris, France...even far away you have followers ;)
" i didn't hit a single ball left." bookmark-worthy
Especially when you have a bad back
Fascinating... think you can add Louis Oosthuizen to the list. Hanging on/hitting with the right hand is the bane of my existence. Maybe one day everyone will be swinging like Freddie.
'Spin the meatballs' from the top and put the meatballs in your mouth on the follow thru. Folks forget to put the meatballs in their mouth. They let the club roll over. Bad. Don't let the club roll over. The opposite of turning the hands over. Described by some as "Down, Under & Up". Real power move. Link this up with the Holy Grail ( swing down the plane at the rate get line not at the ball ) and a bit of Eureka ( Open Stance, Parallel Shoulders, swing path slightly in to out ) and it's MONEY ! Great Video !
Love your focus on this release, but as a swing coach, I think that you have to connect it to what your hips are doing., as the “pelvic bowl” or floor is where the swing starts. The beauty of Mike Austin was that he would Isolate certain parts but then would connect the parts together. In your video, you focus on the release which is good, but a reference back to how the swing starts in the first place, is key. As Mike Dunaway said, “ in our swing, the hips swing the arms around the swing circle center”. As a swing coach, or coach in general (I coach leadership and management), we forget more than we remember and I have to constantly remember to “start at the beginning with the end in mind.” Too many internet teachers in order to drive likes and subscribes (I get that), isolate the movements without the connection to the entire swing,, which can result in an injury or not developing the correct feels. I did this initially, and hurt my left writs in the process because I did not understand the drill from a fundamental start and release point. I like the fact that you demonstrate😅 the “through point” and the fact that you never really end up in that full extension of the left wrist. In regards to your back, what does your warm up routine look like? I think this is a great opportunity to show your subscribers how you warm up to avoid back injury. A good idea that I have embraced is “turning on the pelvic floor”, which I taught as a cycling instructor. This involves doing Kegals the right way (which is the same with any muscle - working towards breathing properly and contraction AND relaxation. If you practice some of these exercises and turn on your core 25% right before you actually the hip movement, the four muscles of your pelvic floor will protect your back, AND you can achieve a 10% - 15% improvement in distance. Sorry to go on, but I like the fact that you are doing this from the 6 handicapper perspective! Keep up the good work!
My warm up is usually just finding a spot where I can swing and take a few nice healthy divots. I rarely hit balls prior to playing because like Bruce Litzke said, “when I hit balls on the range I tend to mess with my swing and I like it just the way it is.” If I do hit balls it’s just a few and when people say, “you’re done already?” My answer is, “I can’t hit it any better.”
As far as protecting the back, I think back injuries happen because people are trying to perform an unnatural motion. Basically, they’re trying to swing sideways, toward the target or down the target line and that simply isn’t the way the body or the golf club works. The golf club sends the ball sideways when we swing it straight forward in the direction we’re facing at address, which is why we stand parallel to the target line. This is what makes the golf club such a unique tool. No other tool works like it.
Clearly, you’ve put a lot of thought into the golf swing but everything you’ve said is based upon the idea that we swing sideways. Once you realize that we actually swing forward, in the direction we’re facing at address, everything you’re talking about happens naturally and automatically. The golf swing is actually a very simple motion because the golf club does about 80% of the work for you, if you let it. We know this as “effortless power.”
I’m working on a video that explains all this in a way that I think everyone can easily understand. I call it the “geometry of golf” because as it turns out it’s all about 90º and 180º angles.
Hi Greg, I’m pretty sure that you
have single handedly shortened the list of
clients that teaching pros have had in the past.
Your explanation of the golf swing makes so much
sense., and best of all, it works!
Thank you for all that you do.
I had to move in the middle of the night. There was a blacked out van parked in front of my house with the PGA MIA ...
Wow, you're right. My ball doesn't go left with this technique, and swing speed is up
As usual nice simple explanation hope back gets better soon. I have been working on this concept for a while and your follow through position nails it.
Thanks. It's almost better now. It was just one of those weird, I relaxed in the wrong way, type of things.
Thanks!
Thank you this is what I need, I will try this, hopefully it will works on me!
Hi Greg hope this message finds you well,just want to let you know I appreciate all the work you put into your channel, your my go to RUclips instructor, #1. Cheers 😊
it is same as the other players to try keep more time head face squer to the target. The different is the other players make that with thire shoulder( lattismus dorsi function) and the mentioned platers with thire wrist.
Experimenting with the HG swing thought and watching the PGA players and instructors, I’m becoming convinced they use the Holy Grail method without awareness. They’re so focused on everything else they seem to miss the importance of the downward punch with the right arm. I recently experimented with combining the right hand only “throwing the club at the target” drill (right handed golfer) with the holy grail. Then I experimented with ways to maximize the speed/force of the throw ie making the club fly the farthest. (Not actually letting the club go). What I realized is, the maximum spreed/throw is gained by maximizing the downward punch/right arm push of the HG method toward the ground. Specifically the faster I forced my right arm down, the more force went into my right arm dual lever, and the more whipping and throwing energy went into my pretend club throw. This helped me feel the effectiveness of the HG swing.
That's what it's all about. Everyone who swings the club well swings this way they just don't know it. When you can truly be aware of what is actually happening it's easy to repeat.
Mike Austin would be the longest hitter on tour if he played today
Great tip! I usually make great contact (can hit my 6 iron ~180) but have an issue with drawing way too far to the left, almost entering hook territory. Going to try this on the range later
The right shoulder controls the angle of the clubface. If you ball is going too much left, you need more sidebend/lower right shoulder.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf thanks for the reply! When I get out on the course/range this week I’ll try to remember to report back on the results
@@IEdjumacate Hopefully, you've seen the Holy Grail Swing videos that are the basis for the channel.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf I have not. I’ll check them out, really like the channel!
At 3:04, your release looks very much like Fred Couples release. Great vid!
Great break down of it
Wow! This is the curse of my game!
Hi Overhand. There is no Mike Austin releasing of the club. There is no Fred Couples releasing of the club. There is only thé Issac Newton’s releasing of the club as long as we allow our golf club to act as a second yet dependent pendulum of our swing as we can only swing the first pendulum triangle we set with our upper body. Cheers
Like Mr OG says.. the hands are just an illusion!
Truth is Couples and Rory both have that tilt thru the shot that most amateurs and old people like me cannot execute. My lower back won't allow it at 71. Most poor golfers shoulder rotation is parallel to the ground and not at the angle good golfers have.
True. I love watching guys like Joaquín Niemann who get their shoulders PERPENDICULAR to the ground at impact.
I'm 11 years older and I know what you mean about low back pain. Mine started at age 14. Never found a way to play golf that didn't make it worse.
@@user-cv1xe9yf3f There is a way to swing without exacerbating back pain. My friend Chris Como taught it to Tiger. I can clearly see Tiger do it but it may not be as obvious to everyone else. I should probably make a video about how to do it.
Maybe this guy is back to his own business, but this channel gonna be a legend for amateur golfers
After reviewing this video, I am led down the Jack Mankin teaching on torque in the hands. He was a baseball swing guru but seems to relate to golf in many ways. He would call this swing release a bottom hand torque swing. The bottom had is the left hand in his baseball analogy. Interesting concept for golf!
The bent cupped left wrist really works for me to hit straight with no pull left.. Can't punch low . How do you keep the flight down with wedges doing this?
I think achieving an extension of the trail arm results as long as we feel we are pushing the handle of our club down with our trail hand along with our entire trail side at the very top of our swing; which gets all the bone and joints (levers) on our trail side pushing towards our lead side as well.
All the muscles in our swing naturally pulls as we push with our bones during our swinging the club. To me this is the Holy Grail.
Count Yogi barely shifted into the left leg and had no left hip slide/stacking move like Freddy. Yogi's shoulder rotation was very stable in space and round like Iron Byron. Neither one ever hit a bad shot.
Love your simple approach to the game. Looking forward to your video on shots from bunkers (greenside short and medium, and fairway bunkers)
Thanks. I do need to make those.
I know this is an older video but if you could answer this question it would be appreciated.
You mentioned that this throw release prevents the ball from going left so would this throw release not be a good idea for a player whose natural shot shape is to miss right (slice)?
My natural shot is a fade/slice and I am trying to decide whether I should l learn this throw release method or the twist release method. Intuitively it seems that a slicer should go for the twist release, but what makes me nervous about the twist release is that it requires timing the wrists to square the club; whereas this Mike Austin throw release theoretically seems easier to keep the face square through the impact zone.
Great content you have and any insight you have is appreciated.
If you're still at the point of ability that you're fighting the ball going right you need to fix that before thinking about either of those fixes. I have several videos about fixing the slice that should help. Also, if you're gripping the club properly you shouldn't need to manipulate the clubface whatsoever in order to square it properly. Golf clubs are designed to square up through impact. Good luck! There's a lot more videos and detailed instruction on my website: OverhandGolf.com
Does mike austin release works with irons ????
Would be interesting to follow a discussion about release with Shawn Clements, Steve Pratt and you!
and I still are here
Only unimproved part my game is my tee shots that go right or slice right, going try this! Thanks!
If the only club in your bag that you're not hitting well is the driver ... there's something wrong with that driver! Don't change the swing just yet, try different drivers. As I've said many times, sometimes it is the arrow and not the archer. I bought a TaylorMade driver years ago and took it out. First shot straight down the middle for 150 yards then sudden sharp right hand turn mid air to the right. Second hole same thing. Like the ball was radio controlled. I had my old driver, so I hit it ... dead straight no problems. I parked the new driver until I got to a sharp dog leg right hole ... it was perfect for what this thing did. It's not a driver hole but I figured this thing is prefect and it was. The ball screamed around the corner and nearly ended up on the green. Anyway, I had the club reshafted with a quality shaft and still have the club today. Some shafts are just garbage. Also a friend bought a new driver that he could not hit straight. I tried, and I couldn't do it but I felt the head was torquing a lot. We shot a video and it was crazy. The shaft torqued almost 90º at impact. There's a reason Rory's driver shaft costs $3000.
Could you do a video for set up and addressing the ball? Love the channel you fixed my swing!
Ralph got mad at Ed Norton for addressing the Ball lol
@@sylvestervoigt9836 😆
I think there are plenty of videos about that but I do have several on alignment.
"Hello, ball ..."
I had a horrible round yesterday and I just read this and realized that what I was doing was running out of right arm. Snap hook after snap hook with the driver. Not too bad with the irons because the ball is farther back and I make contact prior to running out of right arm. My right hand was actually snapping the grip out of my left hand. Any way, I watched this and went out to the practice mat and focused on getting the right hand through the ball and it felt great. It actually resulted in my right shoulder firing towards the target in a strong finish. I need to write this down. Thanks for the help!
You should write it down. You should keep a list of how you swing best and read it before you go play so you don't have to relive learning every time you play. That way you can pick up right where you left off last time. Also, I made this video that you can always refer back to ...
Can’t wait to try this!
I love your simple idea of try it and if you don't like it just abandon it. More golfers should take this approach. Try stuff and see if it works for you 😃.
I like to think of things like a scientist ... try it, if I can prove that it doesn't work, it's out, if I can't prove it doesn't work ... I guess it works. That's why I tell people, "go to the range and try to prove me wrong." The funny thing is that by trying to prove me wrong, they perform the HG swing correctly, but when they try to do it to make it work, they don't.
I like that approach. 😃
This guy is a mad scientist.
You're about the 100th person to call me that. I'll take it!
Disregard my comment from a previous comment. I discovered this video shortly after! Woot!
Like this, can you do another and show down the line?
BTW, I've spent the last several weeks trolling YT and think I've figured out my idea of the right arm/elbow at the top of the backswing resulted in my right arm internally rotating instead of externally. Working on a change...58* shots were better, higher, same or further with less effort. Next stel is to video to confirm. Hope to send you a video for review within 2 weeks.
You sound short of breath. Hope you're OK. Thanks for all you offer.
I was told when I was 21 and went get my nose straightened out (deviated septum from birth), "You're nose is small on the outside and it's even smaller on the inside." I can barely breath through it most of the time. When I speak to a person I breath normally but when I'm just talking to just the camera I tend to talk too long and run out of breath. Talking to a camera is not as easy as it looks. It also depends on the microphone I use. The newer one doesn't pick up breath sounds as much.
Wow! I think this is why I tend to come over the top. I have been rotating (pronating) the right wrist too early at times...just after contact or right at contact. This might come from tennis...on both the forehand and serve, pronation happens through the ball but the feeling is way different than this release. The release feels a lot more like a defensive lob where my opponent has me out of position and all I can do is throw up a high lob to give me time to get back into the point.
This release is what I feel when I hit my longest drives...every other round or so I will hit one a country mile...it's a unique feeling with the wrists...the other day I was on a 365 yard hole and I pulled it slightly and ended up only 15 yards from the front of the green...it was basically a 340 yard drive! This could be very tough to ingrain because I have been playing competitive tennis since I was 9!
Tennis players often are great golfer. The golf swing is similar to a tennis serve.
Hope you are doing well. Miss seeing your latest post.
Master...WE NEED A LESSON! Hope yer doin OK!!!!
Any new video on horizon? Loving this swing!!
This is very similar to Bryson on his punch through the ball
I've seen that release on Bubba Watson's swing too.
Exactly.
Just looked at multiple pics of Mike Austin at impact and post impact and he is not doing what you are saying. Do you think this was just a feel he had? Like Vijay do you think he is simply feeling like he is releasing/loosing the right hand slightly at impact? Vijay is obviously almost taking his right hand off but maybe Mike was loosing the grip to prevent the hook?
In several videos Mike Austin describes this motion. Like I say in the video you won't be able to see it in a real swing and I'm exaggerating it greatly here for illustration purposes. Mike did talk about this preventing the clubface from turning over too quickly.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf You are right. Mike talks about slapping hinging at the ball. Interesting because it is one cure for the hook. Greg Mchatton talks a lot about letting the right hand off to free up the left side post impact.
Interesting I’m going to give it a try hate going left…
Everyone hates going left!
I forgot who said it, it was a pro. They said the feeling thought was that you are trying to separate your left and right hand at impact and follow through. Like you are pulling down with right hand while pulling up on left. (Right hand golfer)
There is no pulling in MA golf swing and doesn't let go either . Your set up takes care of the shoulders . The move correctly with the compound pivot . Austin said it many times and golfers everywhere are making things up . Too Funny . Supple Quickness How can do that with pulling , Tugging, Harpooning, church bell ring. Playing the Wrong game.
Massively right
Has anyone even seen this guy swinging at ***through**** a ball? Love to see it in slow motion with numbers.
There are videos of me hitting balls, but the channel isn't about me, it's about you. I'd rather you improve, not from seeing me do it, but because you have the proper idea in your head. I suppose this is how books work, if you know what I mean. There's no video in Ben Hogan's books. I'm not the greatest golfer on the planet but I know how to describe the proper motions. I have bad habits just as everyone else does.
Yes I think you are right, I have also seen that move by the best who play golf.
All left side pullers of the golf swing. All have had back issues .
@@chuckross8839 Interesting.
Ahh, The Great Release Debate... tried them all. They all have their place. As I get older and less flexible, (less body twisting) a "toe up to toe up" type with a more lateral body move works best for me. I'm "all in" on what Jimmy Ballard teaches. (But I do "Holy Grail" my 1 & 3 woods.)
As I said, I was quite surprised that I was able to hit the ball as far as I did when I could barely turn away, using this release. I think this release is good for those less flexible.
Will you do some videos about iron striking please? Is the iron shot much different from the driver? Thanks. You videos are awesome.
Tried your holy grail for the first time today at the range and was very pleased. Had more distance, better and more consistent trajectories and generally felt more powerful. Over 99% of shots went to the draw side. Will try it again soon. Could you speak to ball position with fairway woods?
I'd say just experiment and see what works best for you. I wish I could say more but experimentation is really the best way.
I believe Adam Scott's release is radial/ulnar not a slap hinge.
Hi Greg, long time no see ... hope you are ok and some great content on the way ...
Thanks Greg enjoyed it would love to talk with you about Mike Austin’s swing don’t know why he didn’t win more with such efficient swing thanks for all you do I make your tee shirt look good lol
I think results speak for themselves, right. There are plenty of people who can bomb the ball but can't play or putt for $#!t.
Amen
2 Questions: 1). How can I keep the left wrist flat while extending my right wrist after impact? 2). How can the right wrist extension, (or anything for that matter) after impact have any effect on the ball flight?
Perfect question! Ok, answer 1. You can't keep the left wrist flat, at least not without rotating the left arm like crazy. Which is what this release is all about. A lot of people think they need to keep that left wrist flat forever, but you don't. Trying to keep it flat makes you do all sorts of chicken wingy type of things.
Answer 2. Because you're reserving the ability to extend the right arm through impact, it can't happen prior so you actually move through the ball with a better, more stable clubface, and therefore hit the ball better. Some things need to be planned before impact so they happen properly and others after. Golf is silly like that.
Good stuff
It looks like you are hinging the right wrist back and forth similar to the way it would act when throwing a baseball side arm.
Truth. "Why in the world would you take a useful joint out of the equation?" Mike Austin would ask.
@@mikeaustinrules4213 When I make this move correctly, the shots fly straight most of the time. There are two things that I have to focus on: 1) Hinge the right wrist going back, and 2) Do not make an effort to unhinge the wrists coming down. It works best when I let the hands unhinge naturally in response to the pivot. When I try to throw the clubhead through the ball I usually do it too early which causes it to "flip" through the ball. The feeling of the clubhead passing the hands happens 24 to 36 inches past the ball when it is working right.
For me I beat the lefts by feeling like I’m opening the club face all the way from transition too the follow thru. And back of right hand faces target in my follow thru
Can swing as hard as I want. And very hard for the ball to go left
Can you please do a video on how you interpret how Mike's hands/wrists worked in the back swing starting from address. Between watching videos of Dunaway and Dan shauger I'm very confused
No need for control in backswing. As long as you are not too flat or too upright!
Just focus on right passing left like a scooping action directly from the top.
Do it first isolated then sync with body turn(the way you would slap something)
I heard at one point Count Yogi, Mike Austin, and Joe Norwood were all teaching at the same LA driving range. Mike Austin said an old Scottish teacher made him repeatedly release the club into a mud bank without getting mud on his sleeve. He released the club under rather than over. He threw the club right from the top. "Step and throw" he liked to say. A fascinating study.
I believe that the old Scottish pro was Stuart Maiden. Also was Bobby Jones's teacher at East Lake in Atlanta. Maiden's release was a product of using hickory shafts. On modern clubs/shafts, we can make the toe move about 20% faster than the heel while at the same time de-lofting the club face for the ultimate compression with your irons. The "slap" release shown here is good for drivers when you want to hit up on the ball, which you should do.
Studio City!
Yes, they all taught at one point at the Studio City Golf and Tennis Club. (It changed names over time.) Yes, that's the story Mike told me and lesson he drilled into my subconscious. The idea is to release the clubhead from the top - getting impetus into the clubhead and allowing it to pass your hands - not holding the angle and dragging the clubhead into the ball.
@@mikeaustinrules4213 Yes if anyone would listen to the real MA , he did not leave anything out. You can't release the head of the club from the top, It can be in full release mode, that is what is screwing many of the golfers up. A lot is going on to release the clubhead correctly , It all starts at the Set up . MA tells you , build a foundation , then build a mansion.
Everyone just do not want to listen and watch . If everyone is looking to find it over night , best to sleep in, you won't ever get it . Everyone over thinking and leaving
what he says out of the equation. Supple Quickness is Pure and comes only one way. MA the Best to ever swing a club . Too bad , Evil people always in his way.
He was way ahead , but I laugh, to swing like Mike is in everyone. He dwarfed every Golfer and I know that is tough to take . LOL
I will have to watch video of Rory, as I can't specifically remember him doing this.
He doesn’t, no one does. This guy is an idiot.
When you played on the A’s in the 90’s what was Jose Canseco like?
Big hitter.
Hi, hope you’re doing well, give us a sign please
I met Mike austin. What your saying is misleading, yes your analysis is correct but he never emphasised a disconnect of the right hand as a conscious thought. In fact he emphasised a release of the left hand in order for the right hand to hit it. Nonetheless, your statements are correct.
we need a fix of overhand! we are jonesing!!! PLEASE!
I tried this today and i think im liking the results. What is the feeling you went with when you tried it out? Are you thinking about turning through the shot and not being afraid to let the right hand release in that flipping type action or something else? Curious as to what your swing thought or feeling was with that right hand.
Well, like I said I'd watched some Count Yogi videos and never really thought about trying it until I hurt my back just before our tee time. I figured, what the hell, I'll give it a try, I can't hardly move as it is so why not. I was really surprised with the results so I figured it might be a good idea for those less mobile and flexible.
Ok, so to answer more specifically, it's not a flip or slap with the right hand it's a pushing forward with the right arm. When you feel it, you'll know it. It's hard to describe, but it's very natural when you do it right. Actually, it feels so natural, it doesn't feel like you're doing anything. Like many things in golf just thinking about it differently makes you move differently and although it doesn't feel different, the results tell you that it is.
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Great stuff again, Count Yogi and Mike Austin great ball strikers!! Do you change the ball position for short irons through driver?
Sure, standard ball position depending on where the low point of the swing is. NOthing uncommon.
Yes MA had 13 different holds for his clubs
Did you know Mike A and Yogi used to teach at the same indoor golf school?
Hi GS! Hope u r fairing well brother.
Is it the same for irons?
I have tried this and it feels like I am flipping...........but I know hit it longer and straighter than I have ever done before so it can’t be wrong
If you think about it - like I said, it may feel like a flip but as long as you haven't passed half way before impact you've made a great swing. Everyone can agree Adam Scott has a great swing and if you watch him really closely you'll see this move.
Is this the same as a slap release? VJ has always worked massively on his left arm release and takes his right hand off to enable this.I occasionally get throwers elbow! if i practice with driver cos i hyper extend the right arm past the ball.
No, because we're not flexing the right wrist we're pushing the right arm forward like you're trying to push your right hand down the shaft and the fingers get pulled to the left causing the right wrist in to flexion. If that makes sense.
Z true :-) Almost every top player does/did that. Otherwise they would be no top players.
Casper, Snead, Seve, Nicklaus, Norman, Hogan, Singh, Stewart, Couples, Scott, Tiger...should be enough.
The laws of physics require a not turning clubface through impact of course.
The truth is some do it consciously, some do it unconsciously and some are trying to hit a straight ball with mechanically flawed concepts (5 lessons, turn, roll...). But every pro would change immediately when he sees whats possible with it. Hitting woods with eyes shut for instance. For a player it's almost impossible to hit a bad shot with it as long his spine is working properly. And it takes almost zero concentration and that takes the pressure out. It's straight cash for players.
As a left misser I will try this out. Austin seemed to advocate a throwing swing towards the target - contradictory to your approach - thoughts?
Mike taught me that once you set up the target is the ball, not the destination point of the ball. From the top of the backswing you come down at a 45 degree angle to the flight line. For those interested I've posted lots video clips with Mike Austin providing me, and others, lessons. Enjoy!
@@mikeaustinrules4213 Yes, I agree completely. We learn to hit the ball and then figure out where it goes and we learn to align or set up knowing this to be fairly consistent. Once you set up the ball, hitting it, must be your objective. Really that's problem with golf, people set up to the ball and then try to swing toward the target. It's really hard to look one way and swing another. Everyone looks in the direction they're swinging and if they're not, you can tell because it's a very awkward and unnatural motion.
I think the only reason people don't talk about swinging at the target line is that it's such a simple concept that no one seems to have ever questioned it. I've never heard anyone ask, "What direction do I swing," but that's the first thing everyone should ask but everyone just assumes it's toward the target because it is in every other sport. The only people that get this right are children. Children only think, "hit ball," so they swing at it and then figure out where it goes.
MA swings 45 degree to the back of the ball on plane. Has a fully connect left peck , which is advanced by the ankles, knees, hips torso . Golfers just don't get it . They are told this but never open there eyes or ears to what he says. Supple Quickness . Only way to be Pure swinging .
I do have trouble with my left arm/wrist braking down - this looks like it might help. Wondering if you might say a little more about how exactly this release is done - thanks!
The basic cause of wrist breaking down is swing in the wrong direction. If you believe you need to swing straight down the target line toward the target you have to cast out all your lag and then pull the club down the target line. It's like turning a golf swing into a giant putting stroke at the last minute. If you haven't seen my Holy Grail playlist have a look and that should change everything.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf Thank you!
Your coming disconnected from the left arm PECK. The ankle , Knees, hips , and Torso move the left arm , You Swing the club 45 degree angle to the back of the ball . What Greg is saying only works if you know why and what is really happening . Then you can forget it and swing .
This may fix my hook
It could but it's a desperate type of fix, if you're looking for a fix. I'm sure there's a much easier cause, like swinging in the wrong direction.