One of your videos showed up in my RUclips feed two weeks ago. I am a total enthusiastic believer. Wow it is incredible how much better my golf shots are. Everything falls in place with the holy grail swing thought. Am telling all my friends about you. Thankyou so much!!! I have followed a lot of others with no change until I heard you.
In order to swing on an arc, you need to direct the force in a straight line in one direction, on plane... (And that is not at the ball lol). And by the force you mean the 1st hinge (the hands or center mass of the club shaft). The 2nd hinge releases the club head automatically in the direction of the ball. (Using centrifugal force & straightening of the right elbow which works the right hand against the left hand "hinge" creating a force on the club shaft & all club head speed)... how i picture the swing in my mind.
If you feel like you're throwing the club behind you, you'll be able to achieve parametric acceleration which causes the left shoulder to go up and back.
You are demonstrating gyroscopic precession which refers to a principle of gyroscopes that states when a force is applied to a spinning object, the maximum reaction occurs approximately 90 degrees later in the direction of rotation. The swinging shoulders/arms/hands/club “structure” acts like a gyroscope and the principal applies here.
Hmmm, I've always understood gyroscopic progression to be something quite different but I can see where you're going with that. This is mostly about identifying the delay in the applied force vs when it actually reaches the end of the club.
Hello. Some time ago I requested your thoughts in a video regarding lead arm dominant versus a trail arm dominant golf swing. Although my trail arm is certainly stronger, this type of swing leads to flipping through the impact zone for me. Also, the pivot hand becomes my right hand, and i want it to be my left hand. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this matter. I’m in need of help. If you address this on your membership site, please let me know. Many thanks!!!
I do have videos about this on the website but what you're describing is happening because you're too focused on the clubhead. We don't swing the clubhead, we swing the club or the shaft, really and when you do that everything changes. The club doesn't stretch so we can trust it to be the length it was at address and then just allow the clubhead to crash into the ball when we swing the proper part of the club with the proper intention. If you've been playing golf for any amount of time it's actually hard to miss the ball with the clubhead yet a lot of people still swing like they did when they started - thinking that unless they make sure the club strikes the ball that it won't happen. So, once you realize this you can swing freely and confidently and just let the club do what it's designed to do.
6:02 @@HolyGrailOfGolfafter weeks of working on your theory, and trying to grasp it, eureka ! It works like magic 100%, i don't even have to concentrate on the ball as much, I am now killing it..never ever hit a golf ball so good.. thankyou. ❤
These principles have been talked about by other teachers but just put in a different way. Thats what I like about golf instruction, you can get a different perspective from teacher to teacher. Its very interesting to hear different ways and views on the swing. Love your stuff Craig!
That had to be a glitch in RUclips. I've noticed that sometimes audio from one short will play over video from another. I don't know Tom and have never used him in any video of mine.
I'm just a dumb guy who refused to remain the dark ages when it comes to golf. I hated trying to hold onto a "feeling," and hope that it kept working. I wanted the Holy Grail of Golf®so I figured it out and I trademarked the name.
I play at night a lot with glow balls. It almost ALWAYS cures my tendencies to do this from time to time. I've spent so much damn time turning my body to produce speed to impact with the natural feel.
I hit a glowball one night with a 5 wood and crushed it but the glow stick popped out at impact. I figured I'd never see that clear golf ball again. I put the glowstick into another ball and smoked it down the fairway. When I got to my second glowball the first one, without the glowstick was right next to it!
Thanks so much. This was an "aha" moment for me, with your description of the force applied having to travel the length of the club to meet the ball at the opportune moment. Love it!
took a break and focused on family. I enjoyed a couple of your recent videos. Played a great round until plantar fasciitis took over. Tried again yesterday but am now in the figuring it out phase. Very hopeful I can get to how I was swinging the prior round. Played from the mid tees and had a 37 for front 9. Then the pain from the PF kicked in and I struggled from there as it was cart path only. lol
If we played around with a compound pendulum surely we could learn something important about golf. For example what basic factors affect when the two arms of the pendulum align etc
I can't find anything called a "compound pendulum" that would be relevant. Do you mean a "double pendulum" and if so, that's basically what we know as a flail.
That's what the whole thing is about. Unless you swing in the right direction you literally can't have a proper release. When you do swing and apply force in the proper direction the release happens naturally, without effort of thought.
I wouldn't say "sensible" really, I'd say "realistic." It's truly amazing to me how wrong most golf instruction is. It's no wonder golf is so hard to learn. They're literally teaching people to do the wrong things and have been for ... well, forever.
The problem is that people understand the concept of my videos and then immediately go out and try it - so they stop watching RUclips - and RUclips records this. RUclips wants people to continue to watch and any video or channel that drives people away they will not promote, no matter how popular or how many likes it has. Before they implemented this new "algorithm," which I swear they created because of me, my channel had 144k views per day, and after the algorithm ... 1500 a day.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf This is absolutely crazy. Are you sure you are not talking about a conspiracy theory here?? :) Anyway, here is a request for more video from you. The Swing path: 1) the backswing must start with the right elbow close to the body, going all the way back. This would bring the club more inside. 2) on the downswing, the right elbow must come down near the tummy area, and release the club out from there. This keeps the club inside out, and from down to up (vs Over the top). 3) Power through. Not sure how. there are so many videos all very confusing. Can you please make a video on this? Keeps the RUclips algorithm going. as there is a question on more feedback, THanks very much
@@tlim1945 I've already made those videos but they're only available on my website. The right elbow is too important to misunderstand. It is the golf swing and most everyone gets it completely wrong.
Yes! Very good observation and it's on my list of videos to shoot. I have a video on the website called "Gas and Brake" that talks all about it but something I didn't mention is how to offset the forces of the swinging arms and club with the lower body rather than the upper body, which is what most everyone does naturally. Thanks for reminding me.
Thanks. Will check it. I assume that even though the focus of HG is top half body, it's likely initiated by the bottum half (i.e, weight transfer, legs, hips)...
@@SteveMoreschini Oh yes. It's literally almost impossible to swing without using ground forces. Sit or kneel on a swiveling chair and try to swing, to illustrate ... but without transmitting that force upward and into the torso it's almost useless which is why we also need decent core strength. You know, the craziest part of learning a good golf swing is unlearning all the bull$#!t we've all heard forever. It's literally infected the minds of everyone. When people finally do really get how easy the golf swing is, they say, "No way, it's this easy!" They then want to go into a long dissertation about how and why there were doing what they did before ... which is now a moot point. They've been led to believe that golf is complicated and hard, and it is, if you do it they way golf is traditionally taught, but the true, simple motion is so easy that people are almost angry when realize how easy and simple it really is.
Yes, because we've tested it through trial and error and now we know if we do this, the ball will go that way. That's how you see those guys with the cool casual swings ... they have confidence.
I'm not sure if I agree that the club goes the fastest before the ball. Your hands (grip) go the fastest at that point, but the club has it's top speed later, because it catches up to the hands. AMG has some great videos about this. The feel you describe is spot on though
Let's think about this rationally. What benefit would there possibly be to having your maximum speed when the ball is long gone? Also, I've proved it wasn't true in a video. ruclips.net/video/dlYeIGuZLvA/видео.html Which I still think is pretty cool. A lot of these old things that people have been saying about golf forever and that people just accept as fact are a lot of times absolute hooey.
That's actually incorrect my man. AMG (and many others) have shown that a pro's hands are fastest from top to about waist height. They then decelerate to facilitate the all-important whip and release of the club thru impact at max speed. HGoG is spot on here.
@@djpoints But that's exactly what I'm saying. The hands/grip reach their maximum speed waist high. But not the club head. The club head reaches maximum speed at, or immediately after the ball.
It's the max velocity "after the ball" part of your statement that's incorrect, but no problemo my man, just clearing up any confusion for others. Yes, an amateur can certainly make this mistake of max v after the ball by either mistakenly holding the release and steering the ball as HGoG brilliantly demonstrated as a no-no or by simply missing the ball completely. But a pro of course has max v into impact with decelerating hands. Like a whip. Physically speaking when executed properly this angular momentum is produced like a double pendulum. The kinetic chain of energy is transferred from top pendulum to bottom pendulum prior to impact. If not, then it's "wasted" and stored by body likely leading to soreness. Or transferred via heat/vibration into club and back into larynx with audible sighs, grunts, and much worse.
@@djpoints What we're saying is 95% the same. My exact words were: max club head speed AT, or directly after the ball. And I stand by that. Max club head speed before the ball might be a useful 'feel', but I still don't think it's correct.
Very Driver bias ideas here. Sure throw the club early at it a bit while playing long drive but every good iron/wedge player has the feeling of holding off the release therefore letting the release happen organically via momentum if not a delaying it. If you do nothing with your hands and swing, the club still release, delaying that release slightly adds a tremendous amount of compression, decreases dynamic loft, puts the low point further forward, keeps the face square longer, etc. while very similar, there are differences between swings with different clubs, a spectrum if you will similar to ball position & address. A Wedge is ideally held off & compressed far more than 3w or Driver, for most of the sticks in the bag throwing out the angles early isn’t going to produce consistent & flush results but rather too high of a dynamic loft, fat & thin shot weak ball flights that launch high initially but drop quick due to lack of spin , etc. especially playing the ball without a nice fluffy lie. A driver off a 3 inch tee, sure, a 3wood you want to launch high off a fluffed up lie, sure but trying to shape different shots in with pw-3i off tight lies is a totally different story. Similar to backing up a trailer, basic physics show us the difference between pushing & pulling, pulling is incredibly stable compared to pushing, that’s why you find every great ball striking controls every shot with their lead side pulling through while using the trail side to add energy, like I said, it’s proven physics as well as anecdotally proven through countless champions/ball strikers from Moe Norman to Tiger Woods using “the emblem of his glove” to control all shapes & trajectories. David Ledbetter has written about the Ben Hogan quote that has been misconstrued for decades about having “3 right hands” actually being a homage to his left hand, once he learned how to control all his shots via the lead side he could throw as much from the right as he wanted because the left (lead) was in control. It would be very very tough to push a 53ft trailor across the country, it would jackknife & pitch so easily, that’s why we pull them. You seem to be a great driver of the ball no doubt but there’s a lot more to the game than hitting driver off a tee, I tried finding a single iron video of yours & couldn’t yet I haven’t heard any disclaimers about your hypothesis being more driver specific because much of it will hinder iron play undoubtedly.
You've made a lot of good points there but one thing I think I forgot to mention in this video is "what part of the club are we swinging." Most everyone swings the head and if that's the intent then everything you said is correct but if we swing the "meat of the bat" like we do a baseball bat or in the case of golf the shaft then all those things you observe and advocate happen naturally through physics. This is the part of golf that literally everyone has missed. The crazy part is that when you swing the shaft the club controls you rather than the other way around. We all imagine that we control the club fully and completely throughout the swing but if you've every tried to swing a shaft without a clubhead you find out quickly that, that isn't true. I've been working on a video explaining this phenomena for some time now. All clubs works by the same general principle. I did have to remove some videos from my youtube channel because they were too inspiring and youtube refused to promote my channel because everyone would see those videos and then go out and swing a club to see if they could feel what I was advocating so some of those may have been me hitting an iron. Before youtube started tracking this statistic my channel was doing great and then once they did I went from 144k views per day down to 1500. I disagree with anything that requires controlling timing. If your intent is correct everything, and I mean everything, happens naturally and automatically. The neat thing about that is that if things aren't happening where or when you want you just adjust your intent slightly so that they do. Thanks for the comment. Answering comments like yours help me understand how people think and how I can more efficiently convey my message.
You described why Moe Normans swing was one of the most straight swings on the planet that requires the least amount of effort. The mechanics of his swing get you into a downward L position, and then releases thru the ball for effortless power.
Sure, just use a mirror. Actually, there's probably some app out that that will flop a youtube video for you. When I want to examine left hander's swings I just quicktime to flop the image. To me lefties look like they swing a bit differently but they don't when you reverse the image, it looks totally normal.
I swing odd too many.But I feel like i stay in my space I established.. swinging freely I think that is the same thing you are doing. Not sure , but think so
I think your "holy grail" concept is exceptional. This has to be part of the design intent of the "Iron Byron" robot swing machine. It would pretty cool if you could relate that in a video of how they knew this and put it in the design of that swing machine. How come we have seen that "Iron Byron" robot and didn't realize what his "magic" was? He never comes over the top. Haha.
Think of how a satellite stays in orbit. It is shot off in one direction. Gravity as the club shaft, & it continues around the earth in an arc. You don't shoot the satellite on an arc. Hope that helps
To add to the last comment lol.... most people don't think about what is happening when they swing the club. How are my arms? Are they tense? How do I make them firm enough but not robotic? What happens to the club head when I do these things? I mean. The questions could go on for an eternity. It's engineering as you say. If only they looked at everything in life this way when learning. Laziness? True care of progression in golf? Expecting instant results? Ooof.
I gotta disagree with your first statement. I think people think way too much about the golf swing and the only time they actually hit the ball well is when they're not thinking. I call this the "slot machine effect." You know that one shot that's absolutely amazing and right after you hit it your realize you have no idea what you did. Well, the reason it was amazing is that you weren't thinking and you allowed your body and the club to do what it's designed to do rather than what you think it should do. As far as the rest of what you've said you're dead on. When there's a fundamental misunderstanding of the use of the club, as in modern golf instruction, the lessons, drills and theories can literally go on forever because they're attempting to explain something they don't actually understand. It's like a person creating excuses as to why they got a math problem wrong - they can go on forever, but the guy who got it right, only has one answer.
Go waterskiing & make a turn, the boat turns & slows down while the skier execrates through the turn. Sean Fowley analogy. Like a tree falling or the planet spinning, the bottom of the tree or near the middle of the earth is moving very slow but the outside is moving quite fast comparably yet they move as one.
Actually, I believe that his idea is so simple, it can be explained in less than 1 paragraph. Possibly 1 sentence. Unlike some teachers that have terabytes of information to explain their idea. What he says can be implemented immediately. I don’t know of any golf teacher’s ideas that you can take right to the course. You don’t really need to change your swing - just swing down.
I'm working on it! As the comment below states the book could be 3 pages or 3000. Actually, once I started writing there is a lot to explain so I think it'll be normal book length. There's a lot of very interesting psychological stuff that affects a golf swing. I've even coined a new phrase, "Unconscious Proficiency Delusion." You know that guy who finally learned to hit a ball straight and now he's walking around giving everyone advice like he's Butch Harmon ... yeah, that's UPD! Also, there's already a book called "THE HOLY GRAIL OF THE GOLF SWING" but it's out of print and was only 36 pages.
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One of your videos showed up in my RUclips feed two weeks ago. I am a total enthusiastic believer. Wow it is incredible how much better my golf shots are. Everything falls in place with the holy grail swing thought. Am telling all my friends about you.
Thankyou so much!!! I have followed a lot of others with no change until I heard you.
Yes, the golf club is an amazing tool when used properly. And much more fun too!
which videos made the most impact for you?
In order to swing on an arc, you need to direct the force in a straight line in one direction, on plane... (And that is not at the ball lol). And by the force you mean the 1st hinge (the hands or center mass of the club shaft). The 2nd hinge releases the club head automatically in the direction of the ball. (Using centrifugal force & straightening of the right elbow which works the right hand against the left hand "hinge" creating a force on the club shaft & all club head speed)... how i picture the swing in my mind.
That's pretty close.
If you feel like you're throwing the club behind you, you'll be able to achieve parametric acceleration which causes the left shoulder to go up and back.
You are demonstrating gyroscopic precession which refers to a principle of gyroscopes that states when a force is applied to a spinning object, the maximum reaction occurs approximately 90 degrees later in the direction of rotation. The swinging shoulders/arms/hands/club “structure” acts like a gyroscope and the principal applies here.
Hmmm, I've always understood gyroscopic progression to be something quite different but I can see where you're going with that. This is mostly about identifying the delay in the applied force vs when it actually reaches the end of the club.
Centrifugal force ? Great lesson ! Thank cue. Good to see your videos again. @@HolyGrailOfGolf
Hello. Some time ago I requested your thoughts in a video regarding lead arm dominant versus a trail arm dominant golf swing. Although my trail arm is certainly stronger, this type of swing leads to flipping through the impact zone for me. Also, the pivot hand becomes my right hand, and i want it to be my left hand. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this matter. I’m in need of help. If you address this on your membership site, please let me know. Many thanks!!!
I do have videos about this on the website but what you're describing is happening because you're too focused on the clubhead. We don't swing the clubhead, we swing the club or the shaft, really and when you do that everything changes. The club doesn't stretch so we can trust it to be the length it was at address and then just allow the clubhead to crash into the ball when we swing the proper part of the club with the proper intention. If you've been playing golf for any amount of time it's actually hard to miss the ball with the clubhead yet a lot of people still swing like they did when they started - thinking that unless they make sure the club strikes the ball that it won't happen. So, once you realize this you can swing freely and confidently and just let the club do what it's designed to do.
Thank you much for your prompt reply. I truly appreciate your explanation and will check out your website.
6:02 @@HolyGrailOfGolfafter weeks of working on your theory, and trying to grasp it, eureka ! It works like magic 100%, i don't even have to concentrate on the ball as much, I am now killing it..never ever hit a golf ball so good.. thankyou. ❤
These principles have been talked about by other teachers but just put in a different way. Thats what I like about golf instruction, you can get a different perspective from teacher to teacher. Its very interesting to hear different ways and views on the swing. Love your stuff Craig!
I noticed in one of our shorts, you had Tom Seguto who teaches Stack and Tilt golf striking balls. An reason why he was selected?
That had to be a glitch in RUclips. I've noticed that sometimes audio from one short will play over video from another. I don't know Tom and have never used him in any video of mine.
Who are you, and why didn't I find you 53 yrs ago! God answered my prayer through you and I am so grateful. Keep on doing what you're doing.
I'm just a dumb guy who refused to remain the dark ages when it comes to golf. I hated trying to hold onto a "feeling," and hope that it kept working. I wanted the Holy Grail of Golf®so I figured it out and I trademarked the name.
I play at night a lot with glow balls.
It almost ALWAYS cures my tendencies to do this from time to time.
I've spent so much damn time turning my body to produce speed to impact with the natural feel.
I hit a glowball one night with a 5 wood and crushed it but the glow stick popped out at impact. I figured I'd never see that clear golf ball again. I put the glowstick into another ball and smoked it down the fairway. When I got to my second glowball the first one, without the glowstick was right next to it!
Thanks so much. This was an "aha" moment for me, with your description of the force applied having to travel the length of the club to meet the ball at the opportune moment. Love it!
Greeting Coach, have you thought about using a down the line and overhead camera views?
Where have you been?
took a break and focused on family.
I enjoyed a couple of your recent videos. Played a great round until plantar fasciitis took over.
Tried again yesterday but am now in the figuring it out phase. Very hopeful I can get to how I was swinging the prior round. Played from the mid tees and had a 37 for front 9. Then the pain from the PF kicked in and I struggled from there as it was cart path only. lol
Can you possibly demonstrate the speed difference using a radar or trackman device? Swinging vs steering. Thanks G man.
Ok, good idea. Next time I go to the Trackman station I'll try to remember to do it.
Pure logic 👍
If we played around with a compound pendulum surely we could learn something important about golf. For example what basic factors affect when the two arms of the pendulum align etc
I can't find anything called a "compound pendulum" that would be relevant. Do you mean a "double pendulum" and if so, that's basically what we know as a flail.
Good talk enjoyed it thanks wish I could reverse engineer my putter maybe I need the bassackerds putter lol
Well, like they say, "half of golf is fun. The other half is putting."
I have been listening to you for a long time. I’m finally getting what you saying. It’s a very important part of the whole process. Thanks
How do you release? Do you roll the right hand over?
That's what the whole thing is about. Unless you swing in the right direction you literally can't have a proper release. When you do swing and apply force in the proper direction the release happens naturally, without effort of thought.
Good to see you back with a sensible approach to the golf club
I wouldn't say "sensible" really, I'd say "realistic." It's truly amazing to me how wrong most golf instruction is. It's no wonder golf is so hard to learn. They're literally teaching people to do the wrong things and have been for ... well, forever.
why is youtube restricting your video? I don’t understand. please explain. Did youtube inform you?
The problem is that people understand the concept of my videos and then immediately go out and try it - so they stop watching RUclips - and RUclips records this. RUclips wants people to continue to watch and any video or channel that drives people away they will not promote, no matter how popular or how many likes it has. Before they implemented this new "algorithm," which I swear they created because of me, my channel had 144k views per day, and after the algorithm ... 1500 a day.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf This is absolutely crazy. Are you sure you are not talking about a conspiracy theory here?? :)
Anyway, here is a request for more video from you.
The Swing path:
1) the backswing must start with the right elbow close to the body, going all the way back. This would bring the club more inside.
2) on the downswing, the right elbow must come down near the tummy area, and release the club out from there. This keeps the club inside out, and from down to up (vs Over the top).
3) Power through. Not sure how. there are so many videos all very confusing.
Can you please make a video on this? Keeps the RUclips algorithm going. as there is a question on more feedback,
THanks very much
@@tlim1945 I've already made those videos but they're only available on my website. The right elbow is too important to misunderstand. It is the golf swing and most everyone gets it completely wrong.
I remember an older video where you said swing out and not down. Is this still true?
Oh yes, absolutely.
A view from down the line would be helpful. Thx.
Love your work! Can you please do a video to show how the bottom half of the body works in executing the Holy Grail?
Yes! Very good observation and it's on my list of videos to shoot. I have a video on the website called "Gas and Brake" that talks all about it but something I didn't mention is how to offset the forces of the swinging arms and club with the lower body rather than the upper body, which is what most everyone does naturally. Thanks for reminding me.
Thanks. Will check it. I assume that even though the focus of HG is top half body, it's likely initiated by the bottum half (i.e, weight transfer, legs, hips)...
@@SteveMoreschini Oh yes. It's literally almost impossible to swing without using ground forces. Sit or kneel on a swiveling chair and try to swing, to illustrate ... but without transmitting that force upward and into the torso it's almost useless which is why we also need decent core strength. You know, the craziest part of learning a good golf swing is unlearning all the bull$#!t we've all heard forever. It's literally infected the minds of everyone. When people finally do really get how easy the golf swing is, they say, "No way, it's this easy!" They then want to go into a long dissertation about how and why there were doing what they did before ... which is now a moot point. They've been led to believe that golf is complicated and hard, and it is, if you do it they way golf is traditionally taught, but the true, simple motion is so easy that people are almost angry when realize how easy and simple it really is.
Are you just trusting the ball will go to target when you are swinging in the direction you want us to swing too?
Yes, because we've tested it through trial and error and now we know if we do this, the ball will go that way. That's how you see those guys with the cool casual swings ... they have confidence.
I'm not sure if I agree that the club goes the fastest before the ball. Your hands (grip) go the fastest at that point, but the club has it's top speed later, because it catches up to the hands. AMG has some great videos about this. The feel you describe is spot on though
Let's think about this rationally. What benefit would there possibly be to having your maximum speed when the ball is long gone? Also, I've proved it wasn't true in a video. ruclips.net/video/dlYeIGuZLvA/видео.html Which I still think is pretty cool. A lot of these old things that people have been saying about golf forever and that people just accept as fact are a lot of times absolute hooey.
That's actually incorrect my man. AMG (and many others) have shown that a pro's hands are fastest from top to about waist height. They then decelerate to facilitate the all-important whip and release of the club thru impact at max speed. HGoG is spot on here.
@@djpoints But that's exactly what I'm saying. The hands/grip reach their maximum speed waist high. But not the club head. The club head reaches maximum speed at, or immediately after the ball.
It's the max velocity "after the ball" part of your statement that's incorrect, but no problemo my man, just clearing up any confusion for others. Yes, an amateur can certainly make this mistake of max v after the ball by either mistakenly holding the release and steering the ball as HGoG brilliantly demonstrated as a no-no or by simply missing the ball completely. But a pro of course has max v into impact with decelerating hands. Like a whip. Physically speaking when executed properly this angular momentum is produced like a double pendulum. The kinetic chain of energy is transferred from top pendulum to bottom pendulum prior to impact. If not, then it's "wasted" and stored by body likely leading to soreness. Or transferred via heat/vibration into club and back into larynx with audible sighs, grunts, and much worse.
@@djpoints What we're saying is 95% the same. My exact words were: max club head speed AT, or directly after the ball. And I stand by that. Max club head speed before the ball might be a useful 'feel', but I still don't think it's correct.
Very Driver bias ideas here. Sure throw the club early at it a bit while playing long drive but every good iron/wedge player has the feeling of holding off the release therefore letting the release happen organically via momentum if not a delaying it. If you do nothing with your hands and swing, the club still release, delaying that release slightly adds a tremendous amount of compression, decreases dynamic loft, puts the low point further forward, keeps the face square longer, etc. while very similar, there are differences between swings with different clubs, a spectrum if you will similar to ball position & address. A Wedge is ideally held off & compressed far more than 3w or Driver, for most of the sticks in the bag throwing out the angles early isn’t going to produce consistent & flush results but rather too high of a dynamic loft, fat & thin shot weak ball flights that launch high initially but drop quick due to lack of spin , etc. especially playing the ball without a nice fluffy lie. A driver off a 3 inch tee, sure, a 3wood you want to launch high off a fluffed up lie, sure but trying to shape different shots in with pw-3i off tight lies is a totally different story. Similar to backing up a trailer, basic physics show us the difference between pushing & pulling, pulling is incredibly stable compared to pushing, that’s why you find every great ball striking controls every shot with their lead side pulling through while using the trail side to add energy, like I said, it’s proven physics as well as anecdotally proven through countless champions/ball strikers from Moe Norman to Tiger Woods using “the emblem of his glove” to control all shapes & trajectories. David Ledbetter has written about the Ben Hogan quote that has been misconstrued for decades about having “3 right hands” actually being a homage to his left hand, once he learned how to control all his shots via the lead side he could throw as much from the right as he wanted because the left (lead) was in control. It would be very very tough to push a 53ft trailor across the country, it would jackknife & pitch so easily, that’s why we pull them. You seem to be a great driver of the ball no doubt but there’s a lot more to the game than hitting driver off a tee, I tried finding a single iron video of yours & couldn’t yet I haven’t heard any disclaimers about your hypothesis being more driver specific because much of it will hinder iron play undoubtedly.
You've made a lot of good points there but one thing I think I forgot to mention in this video is "what part of the club are we swinging." Most everyone swings the head and if that's the intent then everything you said is correct but if we swing the "meat of the bat" like we do a baseball bat or in the case of golf the shaft then all those things you observe and advocate happen naturally through physics. This is the part of golf that literally everyone has missed. The crazy part is that when you swing the shaft the club controls you rather than the other way around. We all imagine that we control the club fully and completely throughout the swing but if you've every tried to swing a shaft without a clubhead you find out quickly that, that isn't true. I've been working on a video explaining this phenomena for some time now.
All clubs works by the same general principle. I did have to remove some videos from my youtube channel because they were too inspiring and youtube refused to promote my channel because everyone would see those videos and then go out and swing a club to see if they could feel what I was advocating so some of those may have been me hitting an iron. Before youtube started tracking this statistic my channel was doing great and then once they did I went from 144k views per day down to 1500.
I disagree with anything that requires controlling timing. If your intent is correct everything, and I mean everything, happens naturally and automatically. The neat thing about that is that if things aren't happening where or when you want you just adjust your intent slightly so that they do.
Thanks for the comment. Answering comments like yours help me understand how people think and how I can more efficiently convey my message.
You described why Moe Normans swing was one of the most straight swings on the planet that requires the least amount of effort. The mechanics of his swing get you into a downward L position, and then releases thru the ball for effortless power.
I have a swing of Moe's on my channel from when he was in his prime. It's not like the swing we know from his later years.
I think I’ve possibly been a subscriber now for a couple of years at least - and I think recently the penny has finally dropped !
Can you show me left-handed?
Thank you
Sure, just use a mirror. Actually, there's probably some app out that that will flop a youtube video for you. When I want to examine left hander's swings I just quicktime to flop the image. To me lefties look like they swing a bit differently but they don't when you reverse the image, it looks totally normal.
I can't see irons compressing the ball with those swing thoughts. I've only seen you work with the driver
This isn't the entire HG® method this is just part of the basic intention.
Great demonstration and explanation, makes total sense.
Relatable 😄
Shoulda reverse engineered my life as well !!! Thank you for great info !!
I swing odd too many.But I feel like i stay in my space I established.. swinging freely
I think that is the same thing you are doing. Not sure , but think so
I was always under the impression that practice swings were slower than real swings. I’d like to see some data to support his claim to the contrary.
How many times have you heard people say, "If you hit the ball with your practice swing you'd kill it."
I think your "holy grail" concept is exceptional. This has to be part of the design intent of the "Iron Byron" robot swing machine. It would
pretty cool if you could relate that in a video of how they knew this and put it in the design of that swing machine. How come we have seen that "Iron Byron" robot and didn't realize what his "magic" was? He never comes over the top. Haha.
I still don’t get it
Think of how a satellite stays in orbit. It is shot off in one direction. Gravity as the club shaft, & it continues around the earth in an arc. You don't shoot the satellite on an arc.
Hope that helps
dude you gotta turn the comments on for the howard stern video. there would be so much fun in that thread CMON MAN!
Done. I didn't know comments were off.
@@HolyGrailOfGolf thanks buddy!!!
Light bulb moment for me!!!
I provide the electricity to your bulb.
To add to the last comment lol.... most people don't think about what is happening when they swing the club.
How are my arms? Are they tense? How do I make them firm enough but not robotic? What happens to the club head when I do these things?
I mean. The questions could go on for an eternity. It's engineering as you say. If only they looked at everything in life this way when learning.
Laziness? True care of progression in golf? Expecting instant results?
Ooof.
I gotta disagree with your first statement. I think people think way too much about the golf swing and the only time they actually hit the ball well is when they're not thinking. I call this the "slot machine effect." You know that one shot that's absolutely amazing and right after you hit it your realize you have no idea what you did. Well, the reason it was amazing is that you weren't thinking and you allowed your body and the club to do what it's designed to do rather than what you think it should do.
As far as the rest of what you've said you're dead on. When there's a fundamental misunderstanding of the use of the club, as in modern golf instruction, the lessons, drills and theories can literally go on forever because they're attempting to explain something they don't actually understand. It's like a person creating excuses as to why they got a math problem wrong - they can go on forever, but the guy who got it right, only has one answer.
If you wanna learn how to swing a club with some power, go waterskiing.
I see where you're going with this. Although, what I imagine you're talking about is a waterski jump.
Go waterskiing & make a turn, the boat turns & slows down while the skier execrates through the turn. Sean Fowley analogy. Like a tree falling or the planet spinning, the bottom of the tree or near the middle of the earth is moving very slow but the outside is moving quite fast comparably yet they move as one.
@@TheWedgeWizard I totally agree. In the case of golf the shaft is the rope, the hands are the boat and the clubhead is the skier.
Genius!
Great
Sit down and put this in a book...
Actually, I believe that his idea is so simple, it can be explained in less than 1 paragraph. Possibly 1 sentence. Unlike some teachers that have terabytes of information to explain their idea. What he says can be implemented immediately. I don’t know of any golf teacher’s ideas that you can take right to the course. You don’t really need to change your swing - just swing down.
I'm working on it! As the comment below states the book could be 3 pages or 3000. Actually, once I started writing there is a lot to explain so I think it'll be normal book length. There's a lot of very interesting psychological stuff that affects a golf swing. I've even coined a new phrase, "Unconscious Proficiency Delusion." You know that guy who finally learned to hit a ball straight and now he's walking around giving everyone advice like he's Butch Harmon ... yeah, that's UPD!
Also, there's already a book called "THE HOLY GRAIL OF THE GOLF SWING" but it's out of print and was only 36 pages.
@@kurtheitman552so put it to us in one paragraph so we can understand it better